This type of drama only you can play in western countries or democratic countries where people are educated and tolerate to other religions fairy stories . this type of drama you cannot play in Saudi Arabia or such muslim countries (KSA,UAE,Qatar) where it is prohibited to preach any other fairy tales except Islam . what a pity .
Muslims are always keeping double standards , they have one rule in Muslim countries and another rule in democratic counties ,
@XffedX Wrong. Muhammad married mother Aisha who was a post-pubescent woman. So get your facts right. Muhammad also married 7 women who were widows. So please spare us your ignorance.
@dawahissuccess 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311)
@dawahissuccess I don't see the part that is wrong in what I said.
More precisely I can understand that you can marry your 12 or 9 years old daughter to a 40 year old man and they can have a sexual relationship if she is post-pubescent. “It Sounds normal for you!!!!”.
PS: I supposed in my answer that what you said was right “the fact that aisha was post-pubescent when she had a sexual relationship with Muhammad”.
When we speak about relegion, we speak about a referance. It have to be true for any time.
And if islam is history, we have to see it as a past.
But you know that some of the actuel referance of good and bad existed before Islam. For exemple, a persen who chose to fuck a 9 year old girl is bad at any time.
Just a point, may be it is true that we can't compare ancient "societies" to ours but we can compare a particular behavior of a persen from any time to an other.
He did not have sex with a 9 year old. If you really educated yourself about Islam, you would have found out that he didn't. He married Aisha, raised her up under his teachings and did not have sex with her until she grew up.
What is this "social justice?" It amounts to rob Peter to pay Paul. If Islam is so great, why are most of their countries backward and medieval? Why do the murder children, by hacking them with knives and swords? Why is their Koran so full of hatred? I'll tell you why: Jesus warned of false prophets and false religions. The Koran steals content from the Bible, and it was written by warlike conquerors, who murdered and pillaged their way wherever they went. No one REALLY believes it is peaceful!
I feel so bad for Muslim women: are they masochistic? Muhammad and Islam abuse them all day long for 1400 years, yet they still speak for Islam? or are they threatened to do so by their men?!
Allah authorizes wife-beating and multi-wives (sura 4:34); Muhammad said: “Treat women well, for they are like domestic animals ...” (Tabari Vol 9, No. 1754) Many islamic writings clearly say women are nothing but sexual properties for muslim men to enjoy and then disposed!
@givethanks1314 Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (2:191), murder them and treat them harshly (9:123), slay them (9:5), fight with them (8:65 ), strive against them with great endeavor (25:52), be stern with them because they belong to hell (66:9) and strike off their heads; then after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives" for ransom (47:4).
Your practice of a selected religion should be done in the privacy of your own home or designated areas and ONLY in these two areas. Failure to abide will result in a monetary fine or imprisonment depending on the severity of obstruction.
Make this a law in your town, state, country and I gurantee there will be no discrimination or racism cry about it. Gurantee
One: every religion has a few select people that ruin it for everyone. Just like any thing in life when you are dealing with groups of people. Two: religion needs to be thrown out when you are dealing with laws of the land. The law should be you have a right to practice whichever religion you choose. You can not however impose it on the public in any fashion. NO protests using religion. NO practicing in public. No soliciting your religion in public...continued....
@MoscowMaestro pat condell and thunderf00t are not racists. they are anti-theists, who think religion is a scourge on the world. please do not confuse this with racism.
@MoscowMaestro where did you see him being racist. please tell, because if he really is racist i'll unsubscribe him immediately. just i doubt what you are refering to is actually racism.
@MoscowMaestro lol i'm about as far as you can get from the BNP. you need to inject some realism into your life. ukip isn't racist, the bnp are. if pat was a member of the bnp you would have a point. but he's not, he's a member of ukip. fight his words with your own words, don't slander and dismiss people for being things that they're not.
@up2trix Prat Condell is a sad knuckledragging xenophobe, whose hate-fuelled garbage is as racist as it gets. He writes articles for the BNP, his videos are all linked by the BNP, and every BNP member of YouTube has him on their Friends list.
@MoscowMaestro hmm while that might be true, just because some extremist racists like what he says doesn't mean he is an extremist racist. its just like some extremist muslim terrorists might like what a muslim preacher says, doesn't mean the preacher is a terrorist. its like the conservatives who tried to claim obama was a communist because he sat on the same committee as a former communist, or muslim because his grandfather was. guilt by association is bullshit.
just because a few westernised muslims say it isnt like that does not make it not, go to any fully muslim country to see what it really is like. yeah sure its easy in uk coz uk law and conduct wont stand for it (with exceptions of a few cases that were tried under the new uk sharia adopted law which allows muslims to be tried under sharia in uk) seriously ive lived in saudi arabia, i know what the end result is of full islamification. its unfair to be seen as racist to disagree with an ideology
and your kind of response is what im talking about. its clear you didnt even read my response before ud actually labeled me. as for the friends most are random on youtube. also you still didnt answer my question and YOU resorted to irrational insults. wipe the rabid foam from your moth and il start again. why is it seen as racist to oppose an ideology? would you support rights for nazism? also islam is not a race (just incase u didnt know)
@prankmypants Put a gun up your arse & pull the trigger, Adolf. And tell your BNP friends (ie everyone subscribed your stinking fucking channel) to copy your fine example, you stinking BNP cunt.
ah well i can see that you are a retard, no need to reply. btw im not BNP, but interesting you are happy to stereotype; something you critisize me for. so that makes you a hypocrite too haha. il just add you to list of retards on encyclopedia dramatica so the world can see. btw, eat shit! hahahhaaaa
i love it if you said that to me in the street, id just end you like your mother should have done before you were born. instead she just settiled for dropping you on your head. hence your retardedness! i feel sorry for you, you are just a piece of sputum in the toiletbowl of life hahahaha.
@prankmypants Grow a penis, BNP cunt. Britain kicked your scum one-eyed tosser in the bollocks in the elections, but you're still hanging-around waiting for a boot up your fucking arse to send you off.
Isnt it interesting how i present valid points and make intellectual points? you on the otherhand keep repeating "ooo BNP etc" when im not even BNP and that is such an unintelligent assumption/weak insult. Go on keep replying, other ppl reading this will see that you are a fucking tard and im actually very rational haha.
@MoscowMaestro ok how does being from a multi cultural nation make me a nazi? I happen to have lived as part of several different cultures around the world and i respect peoples belief systems. I personally may not follow them but I respect people that have such faith in things as most people do be it religion or political beliefs.
Let me ask you if you weren't sheltered by the anonymity of your online profile would you actually say these things to people's faces?
@MoscowMaestro I'd like to see you try that man be a fun wee sport really. Another tip don't threaten people on the net because yet again you know nothing about me.
I'd still like to see you try that. With the way your behaving you'd be what 14?
@MoscowMaestro Yes there are people I don't get along with on a personal level but that is because of their attitude on how they deal with people or their general behavior and nothing to do with their culture, religion, sexual orientation, or political views.
Try getting along with people rather than bagging them it will help make the world a much nicer place for at least a few people out there and that may help have a follow on effect. We are all on this world so lets try and share it.
@MoscowMaestro The tool comment was a statement about your attitude and the way you are trying to treat others not a statement about your race or culture at all really. I don't know where you are from and to be honest I don't really care. There is all ways a few bad eggs every where.
Hey every body want some fun reading. Have a look what this nice guy @MoscowMaestro is writing. I think he is just ashamed that people are bringing up valid points and so he can only take his frustration out in abuse.
@MoscowMaestro tell me where I made any racist comments? Go on I challenge you to find one racist comment. Your the one that has been slagging everybody else off as a racist. Try thinking more before you say things.
Try taking you xenophobic attitude else where. Leave people be. If they have another opinion to you it does not make them racists. It just shows your immaturity that you have to abuse people because they think differently to you.
@MoscowMaestro Fuck you, you useless commi fuck. You say New Zealand has never produced/invented anything of use?? If it weren't for New Zealand, Your bullshit backwards waste of space country would'nt have had nuclear power or weapons! which would make your country even more pathetic and lame. Go eat a dick bro and stop getting all psycho towards everyone. Face it, you're a cock and the more you abuse people, the bigger faggot you're making of yourself.
@DrFlappyPants HAAHAHAHAHAA, another knuckledragging troll! Did you get banned under your previous identity, Kiwi turd? Nothing about the topic at all, just a stream of ignorant undeducated shite. Go back to sheep-shagging, Kiwi arsehole.
@prankmypants its unfair to generalize a population of 1.6 billion people people with the 'Arabs' current state of affairs. Conservative Islam is a problem, but it's only conservative due to lack of education. Look at the percentage of illiteracy in such places. How many people can actually read into hadith commentary and the inner meanings of the qur'an? How many arabs actually still read poetry? How many muslims actually understand their own religion?
@prankmypants I'm muslim, and I commend you for standing up to an ideology that you believe to be evil. But don't hate on 1.6 billion people so easily, and 1400 years of science. There's a reason why Islam has lasted so long and why people continue to convert to the religion. Just do your research properly and don't base an ideology on what it's followers fail to do. Hope you read widely and come to your own conclusions.
thats a fair point, but id also like to stress that I seldom hate anyone. i find hate harmful to myself and others. i really want to forget about islam but im constantly reminded and involuntarily offended by the products of it. maybe given time there can be a happy medium but islam will have to compromise if it is to co-exist in in the world which again looking at past history does not look likely.
fair play mate, I don't blame you for feeling annoyed. The irony of it all is that Islam is all about co-existence through being concerned about your own state of sins rather than others- therefore attempting to be truly unjudgemental. Anyone who has studied classical islam can see this as plain as day. Muslims should be making excuses for other people and seeing themselves as the issue.
@prankmypants It's a culture not a religion that is causing it. The bible has very similar things, saying we should stone people to death, oppression of women, don't eat shrimp... we disobey our own religious texts because of our laws and importantly our culture. And no, religions do not always shape cultures.
@campaigner
This type of drama only you can play in western countries or democratic countries where people are educated and tolerate to other religions fairy stories . this type of drama you cannot play in Saudi Arabia or such muslim countries (KSA,UAE,Qatar) where it is prohibited to preach any other fairy tales except Islam . what a pity .
Muslims are always keeping double standards , they have one rule in Muslim countries and another rule in democratic counties ,
you2ubeist 1 year ago
"I believe in the women rights"
4:34 Beat them (women)
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jingel89 1 year ago
@jingel89 Salaam(peace),
Your women at the time of Muhammad(pbuh) were getting lashed in the back for interferring when their man spoke to another woman.
Perseveranze 1 year ago
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Taqiyyah: the Holy Deception (page 56 faithfreedom. org)
Lying to non-Muslims in advance of Islam is allowed by Allah (3:28, 16:106, 5:51)
till Judgement Day
jingel89 1 year ago
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Muhammed fucked a 12 or 9 year old girl, Is this an act of a human.
I think that Muslems needs respect but not more advertising.
XffedX 1 year ago
Muhammed fucked a 12 or 9 year old girl, Is this an act of a human.
I think that Muslems needs respect but not more advertising.
XffedX 1 year ago
Muhammed fucked a 12 or 9 year old girl, Is this an act of a human.
I think that Muslems needs respect but not more advertising.
XffedX 1 year ago
@XffedX Wrong. Muhammad married mother Aisha who was a post-pubescent woman. So get your facts right. Muhammad also married 7 women who were widows. So please spare us your ignorance.
dawahissuccess 1 year ago
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@dawahissuccess 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married her when she was seven years old, and he was taken to his house as a bride when she was nine, and her dolls were with her; and when he (the Holy Prophet) died she was eighteen years old. (Sahih Muslim, Book 008, Number 3311)
muslimwhacker 1 year ago
@dawahissuccess I don't see the part that is wrong in what I said.
More precisely I can understand that you can marry your 12 or 9 years old daughter to a 40 year old man and they can have a sexual relationship if she is post-pubescent. “It Sounds normal for you!!!!”.
PS: I supposed in my answer that what you said was right “the fact that aisha was post-pubescent when she had a sexual relationship with Muhammad”.
XffedX 1 year ago
@dawahissuccess I wanted to say that it is wrong when this video say that muhammed was a good person,
And I am against making a false advertising and this one is false.
I don't say neither that people who are speaking in this video are bad, may be they don't know Muhammed well.
But you know that he had sexe with a 9 years old girl and you defend him so you are a bad person.
XffedX 1 year ago
@XffedX The founding fathers of America had slaves. That doesn't make them "bad".
You can't compare ancient societies to ours. That's just ignorant. Any historian would beat you down in a debate. haha
fandanstan 1 year ago
@fandanstan
When we speak about relegion, we speak about a referance. It have to be true for any time.
And if islam is history, we have to see it as a past.
But you know that some of the actuel referance of good and bad existed before Islam. For exemple, a persen who chose to fuck a 9 year old girl is bad at any time.
Just a point, may be it is true that we can't compare ancient "societies" to ours but we can compare a particular behavior of a persen from any time to an other.
XffedX 10 months ago
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@XffedX
He did not have sex with a 9 year old. If you really educated yourself about Islam, you would have found out that he didn't. He married Aisha, raised her up under his teachings and did not have sex with her until she grew up.
mimi7tonia 8 months ago
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ohohmrbill1 1 year ago
Those campaign slogans are simply lies. Anyone with even minor knowledge of Quran and history of Islam knows it.
Barradin 1 year ago
The way she is dressed is against Islamic law. OFF WITH HER HEAD!...or at least a good public whipping.
raultalbot7 1 year ago
BTW, there is an American saying that would certainly apply here. YOU CAN'T POLISH A TURD.
soco13466 1 year ago 2
What is this "social justice?" It amounts to rob Peter to pay Paul. If Islam is so great, why are most of their countries backward and medieval? Why do the murder children, by hacking them with knives and swords? Why is their Koran so full of hatred? I'll tell you why: Jesus warned of false prophets and false religions. The Koran steals content from the Bible, and it was written by warlike conquerors, who murdered and pillaged their way wherever they went. No one REALLY believes it is peaceful!
soco13466 1 year ago
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bangel321 1 year ago
I feel so bad for Muslim women: are they masochistic? Muhammad and Islam abuse them all day long for 1400 years, yet they still speak for Islam? or are they threatened to do so by their men?!
Allah authorizes wife-beating and multi-wives (sura 4:34); Muhammad said: “Treat women well, for they are like domestic animals ...” (Tabari Vol 9, No. 1754) Many islamic writings clearly say women are nothing but sexual properties for muslim men to enjoy and then disposed!
Google "sharia" and see ...
givethanks1314 1 year ago
@givethanks1314 Quran tells Muslims to kill the disbelievers wherever they find them (2:191), murder them and treat them harshly (9:123), slay them (9:5), fight with them (8:65 ), strive against them with great endeavor (25:52), be stern with them because they belong to hell (66:9) and strike off their heads; then after making a "wide slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives" for ransom (47:4).
muslimwhacker 1 year ago
@muslimwhacker
You are right.
Allah is a god of war, god of murder, god of obscene, god of lies!
givethanks1314 1 year ago
its why liberalism should be reconsidered. Its too damn lenient and too broad of a way to view things.
CIrish07 1 year ago
continued....
Your practice of a selected religion should be done in the privacy of your own home or designated areas and ONLY in these two areas. Failure to abide will result in a monetary fine or imprisonment depending on the severity of obstruction.
Make this a law in your town, state, country and I gurantee there will be no discrimination or racism cry about it. Gurantee
CIrish07 1 year ago 2
One: every religion has a few select people that ruin it for everyone. Just like any thing in life when you are dealing with groups of people. Two: religion needs to be thrown out when you are dealing with laws of the land. The law should be you have a right to practice whichever religion you choose. You can not however impose it on the public in any fashion. NO protests using religion. NO practicing in public. No soliciting your religion in public...continued....
CIrish07 1 year ago
Someone needs to tell Prat Condell & Chunderf00l - YouTube's leading racists at the moment.
MoscowMaestro 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro pat condell and thunderf00t are not racists. they are anti-theists, who think religion is a scourge on the world. please do not confuse this with racism.
up2trix 1 year ago
@up2trix But Pat Condell *is* a racist.
MoscowMaestro 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro where did you see him being racist. please tell, because if he really is racist i'll unsubscribe him immediately. just i doubt what you are refering to is actually racism.
up2trix 1 year ago
@up2trix Your Nazi hero Prat is a UKIP member. That's automatically proof that he's racist scum.
MoscowMaestro 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro no it doesn't you utter retard
up2trix 1 year ago
@up2trix Piss off, Adolf. Neither you or your BNP scum are wanted here.
MoscowMaestro 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro lol i'm about as far as you can get from the BNP. you need to inject some realism into your life. ukip isn't racist, the bnp are. if pat was a member of the bnp you would have a point. but he's not, he's a member of ukip. fight his words with your own words, don't slander and dismiss people for being things that they're not.
up2trix 1 year ago
@up2trix MoscowMaestro is a dumb russian troll, dont you bother replying to his stupid remarks
Barradin 1 year ago
@up2trix Prat Condell is a sad knuckledragging xenophobe, whose hate-fuelled garbage is as racist as it gets. He writes articles for the BNP, his videos are all linked by the BNP, and every BNP member of YouTube has him on their Friends list.
MoscowMaestro 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro hmm while that might be true, just because some extremist racists like what he says doesn't mean he is an extremist racist. its just like some extremist muslim terrorists might like what a muslim preacher says, doesn't mean the preacher is a terrorist. its like the conservatives who tried to claim obama was a communist because he sat on the same committee as a former communist, or muslim because his grandfather was. guilt by association is bullshit.
up2trix 1 year ago
just because a few westernised muslims say it isnt like that does not make it not, go to any fully muslim country to see what it really is like. yeah sure its easy in uk coz uk law and conduct wont stand for it (with exceptions of a few cases that were tried under the new uk sharia adopted law which allows muslims to be tried under sharia in uk) seriously ive lived in saudi arabia, i know what the end result is of full islamification. its unfair to be seen as racist to disagree with an ideology
prankmypants 1 year ago 2
@prankmypants I see all your YouTube friends are National Front and BNP whackjob racist scum. No surprise there, then!
MoscowMaestro 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro
and your kind of response is what im talking about. its clear you didnt even read my response before ud actually labeled me. as for the friends most are random on youtube. also you still didnt answer my question and YOU resorted to irrational insults. wipe the rabid foam from your moth and il start again. why is it seen as racist to oppose an ideology? would you support rights for nazism? also islam is not a race (just incase u didnt know)
prankmypants 1 year ago
@prankmypants Put a gun up your arse & pull the trigger, Adolf. And tell your BNP friends (ie everyone subscribed your stinking fucking channel) to copy your fine example, you stinking BNP cunt.
MoscowMaestro 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro
ah well i can see that you are a retard, no need to reply. btw im not BNP, but interesting you are happy to stereotype; something you critisize me for. so that makes you a hypocrite too haha. il just add you to list of retards on encyclopedia dramatica so the world can see. btw, eat shit! hahahhaaaa
prankmypants 1 year ago 2
@prankmypants Of course you're not BNP - it's only coincidence all your friends are, right??
Fuck off and die, scum.
MoscowMaestro 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro
i love it if you said that to me in the street, id just end you like your mother should have done before you were born. instead she just settiled for dropping you on your head. hence your retardedness! i feel sorry for you, you are just a piece of sputum in the toiletbowl of life hahahaha.
prankmypants 1 year ago 2
@prankmypants Like all BNP shitcunt arseholes, you're full of hot air - but if it came to a fight you'd be begging for your life on your knees, cunt.
MoscowMaestro 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro
hahaha i love how retarded you are. your replys make me smile. seriously are you the product of brother and sister? hahahahahaha
prankmypants 1 year ago 3
@prankmypants Grow a penis, BNP cunt. Britain kicked your scum one-eyed tosser in the bollocks in the elections, but you're still hanging-around waiting for a boot up your fucking arse to send you off.
MoscowMaestro 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro
Isnt it interesting how i present valid points and make intellectual points? you on the otherhand keep repeating "ooo BNP etc" when im not even BNP and that is such an unintelligent assumption/weak insult. Go on keep replying, other ppl reading this will see that you are a fucking tard and im actually very rational haha.
prankmypants 1 year ago 2
@MoscowMaestro = Tool
MrPokedintheeye 1 year ago
@MrPokedintheeye Go fuck yourself, you Nazi cunt. Or better still, shoot yourself in the head, cunts like you aren't needed on this planet.
MoscowMaestro 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro ok how does being from a multi cultural nation make me a nazi? I happen to have lived as part of several different cultures around the world and i respect peoples belief systems. I personally may not follow them but I respect people that have such faith in things as most people do be it religion or political beliefs.
Let me ask you if you weren't sheltered by the anonymity of your online profile would you actually say these things to people's faces?
MrPokedintheeye 1 year ago
@MrPokedintheeye If I met you in person, buddy, I'd punch your lights out. Got that?
MoscowMaestro 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro I'd like to see you try that man be a fun wee sport really. Another tip don't threaten people on the net because yet again you know nothing about me.
I'd still like to see you try that. With the way your behaving you'd be what 14?
MrPokedintheeye 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro Yes there are people I don't get along with on a personal level but that is because of their attitude on how they deal with people or their general behavior and nothing to do with their culture, religion, sexual orientation, or political views.
Try getting along with people rather than bagging them it will help make the world a much nicer place for at least a few people out there and that may help have a follow on effect. We are all on this world so lets try and share it.
MrPokedintheeye 1 year ago
@MrPokedintheeye That's what you had in mind when you called me a "tool", was it, you hypocritical cunt? Fuck off and die, racist scum.
MoscowMaestro 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro The tool comment was a statement about your attitude and the way you are trying to treat others not a statement about your race or culture at all really. I don't know where you are from and to be honest I don't really care. There is all ways a few bad eggs every where.
MrPokedintheeye 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro is it just more or do I smell a case of xenophobia here. Trying to cover it by calling everybody else racist are we?
MrPokedintheeye 1 year ago
Hey every body want some fun reading. Have a look what this nice guy @MoscowMaestro is writing. I think he is just ashamed that people are bringing up valid points and so he can only take his frustration out in abuse.
MrPokedintheeye 1 year ago
@MrPokedintheeye Listen, chum. Take your racist crapola elsewhere, huh? No-one is interested in the bigoted opinions of a Kiwi Nazi. Fuck off & die.
MoscowMaestro 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro tell me where I made any racist comments? Go on I challenge you to find one racist comment. Your the one that has been slagging everybody else off as a racist. Try thinking more before you say things.
Try taking you xenophobic attitude else where. Leave people be. If they have another opinion to you it does not make them racists. It just shows your immaturity that you have to abuse people because they think differently to you.
Oh by the way I'm not kiwi dick.
MrPokedintheeye 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro Fuck you, you useless commi fuck. You say New Zealand has never produced/invented anything of use?? If it weren't for New Zealand, Your bullshit backwards waste of space country would'nt have had nuclear power or weapons! which would make your country even more pathetic and lame. Go eat a dick bro and stop getting all psycho towards everyone. Face it, you're a cock and the more you abuse people, the bigger faggot you're making of yourself.
DrFlappyPants 1 year ago
@DrFlappyPants HAAHAHAHAHAA, another knuckledragging troll! Did you get banned under your previous identity, Kiwi turd? Nothing about the topic at all, just a stream of ignorant undeducated shite. Go back to sheep-shagging, Kiwi arsehole.
MoscowMaestro 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro nope i am still here. maybe other people realized you really are a tool.
MrPokedintheeye 1 year ago
@MoscowMaestro You two faced prick, there is only 1 racist cunt here and thats you
milo8671 6 months ago
@prankmypants its unfair to generalize a population of 1.6 billion people people with the 'Arabs' current state of affairs. Conservative Islam is a problem, but it's only conservative due to lack of education. Look at the percentage of illiteracy in such places. How many people can actually read into hadith commentary and the inner meanings of the qur'an? How many arabs actually still read poetry? How many muslims actually understand their own religion?
umarkhan 1 year ago
@prankmypants I'm muslim, and I commend you for standing up to an ideology that you believe to be evil. But don't hate on 1.6 billion people so easily, and 1400 years of science. There's a reason why Islam has lasted so long and why people continue to convert to the religion. Just do your research properly and don't base an ideology on what it's followers fail to do. Hope you read widely and come to your own conclusions.
umarkhan 1 year ago
@umarkhan
thats a fair point, but id also like to stress that I seldom hate anyone. i find hate harmful to myself and others. i really want to forget about islam but im constantly reminded and involuntarily offended by the products of it. maybe given time there can be a happy medium but islam will have to compromise if it is to co-exist in in the world which again looking at past history does not look likely.
prankmypants 1 year ago
@prankmypants
fair play mate, I don't blame you for feeling annoyed. The irony of it all is that Islam is all about co-existence through being concerned about your own state of sins rather than others- therefore attempting to be truly unjudgemental. Anyone who has studied classical islam can see this as plain as day. Muslims should be making excuses for other people and seeing themselves as the issue.
umarkhan 1 year ago
@prankmypants
"If a person is intelligent and pious
His piety occupies him from the sins of others
Just like the ill one is kept preoccupied
From the sickness of others by his own sickness"
Imam-Shafi' (One of the main points of refernce when looking at Sunni Islam)
umarkhan 1 year ago
@prankmypants
Have you even been to Turkey, Indonesia or Malaysia ?
lonovik 1 year ago
@prankmypants It's a culture not a religion that is causing it. The bible has very similar things, saying we should stone people to death, oppression of women, don't eat shrimp... we disobey our own religious texts because of our laws and importantly our culture. And no, religions do not always shape cultures.
TheGlobalpuppet 1 year ago