А у меня воевали 2 деда и 2 прадеда один погиб на курской дуге,все другие были ранены.А в Беларуссии немцы сжигали дома с жителями внутри,моя бабуля покойная до самой смерти невыносила немецкой речи..
"Zvezda" is worth watching and, in some ways, it's also more interesting than "Saving Private Ryan" and "9th Company" which are both full of historical inaccuracies.
Steppenwolf1945 is an idiot. No intelligence what so ever. Comparing NKVD to Gestapo and or SS is like comparing apples and oranges. Are you really that clueless. My grandfather told me stories as he saw and witnessed how Ordinary german soldiers with SS took part in burning people alive in churches and homes. Particularly if that village supported partisans.
Someone should round up and execute all nazis like you. NKVD was horrible, but two wrongs don't make a right. Eternal glory to the partisans, and to Golekov's grandfather as well, who risked his life in defeat of the fascist swine.
Vumpsh, thank you for your kind words. My grandfather was in the 3rd Ukranian Front. I agree NKVD was horrible & most Soviet Soldiers did not know who they are at and during that the war, they all just wanted an end to it. Ordinary idiots like testomatic12345 would have joined the hitler youth during that era, other good intelligent Germans such as Colonel Hans Oster (the september plot-great book) or Claus Von Stauffenberg tried to assasinate him as did others.
Мои тоже воевали. Прадед был в штрафбате и дошёл до Берлина- повезло. Многие близкие погибли, и солдаты и мирные лица. Моя бабушка пряталась от этой мрази по ночам на кладбище. Грустно что посли такой трагедии есчё есть фашисты.
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Golekov, you idiot, I suggest you get off that mix of vodka and drugs you are siting on, open your fricking eyes and read my message a few more times. Don't forget to use your bird brains before you write somethinjg stupid next time, OK? Tell me where did Steppenwolf equated the NKVD and Gestapo?
Over 500,000 died liberating Poland, and for what, so Polish ancestors can complain about soviet occupation. I think maybe your ancestors would have rather lived under Nazi germany. I know not all poles think this way. But it is disturbing.
An ordinary russian soldier was not political, rather patriotic. They saw it as their duty not only to liberate the Soviet Union, but entire europe from fascist pigs. So when Polish or other people complain about soviets not liberating bur rather occupying Poland, then I think you are sick.
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I love you scum sucking communists always refer to yourselves as russian or patriotic. You were nothing but godless soviet scum trying to take over Europe and Germany one state at a time. Poland wanted war and got it.
I think that if you are persecuted by the SS for being XXXX (insert crime/race/politics here) or by the OGPU/NKVD for XXXX (insert crime/race/politics here) the result would not be good for you. Two sides of the same coin
There is a difference - the NKVD were killing their political opponents among their own people - that's internal strife and tragedy but none of your business, really. The SS were killing everybody wto make for the Liebensraum who was not German. That's a lot more people. By 1945 the USSR lost 25-40 million, mostly civilians. Most civilians in Germany were actually killed not by the NKVD but by the Allies bombing raids.
Well, here is an idea - if you don't want the Russian Army to go raping your women and destroying your cities try NOT invading Russia first! Those countries you have in mind had field armies helping Germans to rape, burn and pillage through USSR in 1941-44. Remind you - Russians (Soviets really) came to Germany not on some dominance theory but to destroy their offenders.
Is that a popular German myth now? I am curious if you read that in those books that German Nazi generals wrote on their leusure time upon request by the Americans? Also of note that the NKVD were dealing with their own compatriots - if the Germans killed each other off nobody would mind, I believe.
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What is freely asserted is freely denied.
Its funny how the millions are alive constantly making these claims. Yes the holocaust is a myth propagated by the and US and Soviet propaganda departments. Gassing is not even possible as described by the so-called victims. Total utter lies.
The entire Turkish people greateful to Soviets for stopping those fascist monsters. Turkey would be in flames today if fucking nazis accomplished their target. This actually goes for entire world. Spaseba Russie!
shut the fuck up you stupid nazi piece of shit. You're proud of your fucking SS? Shut the fuck up. Your war was a disgrace to humanity. You are pathetic.
I dont what y'all guys are debating about. It's just a movie. And if you left a comment here, it means that you have been interested in this. So, let's just watch the movie and enjoy that there's no war...
That's a very good movie. I saw in in January in Polish TV. It was a debate after that - it says on the end of the movie, when we can see a Red Army, that those boys went to liberate Poland and half a million of the died. Many people here in Poland say that they wasn't liberating anyone and that the Russian soldiers were even worse than the Germans. Where the true lies - I don;t know.
@mzacharzewski: They didn't go to liberate Poland. Red Army soldiers went for two principal reasons: firstly, if they didn't, their own commanders would shoot them. Secondly, they wanted to take revenge on the Germans, quite understandably. The Russian commissariat wanted Poland to satisfy its own expansionist policies. The same reason the Germans wanted it.
This is probably one of the most realistic portrayals of the eastern front (Combat wise) than any other film ever made, Especially enemy at the gates.
Games like Call of Duty should learn from this film.
i have particular respect for western whites (like kim philby) who face the truth, just like i have special respect for germans who dared stand up to those freaked-out nazi psychos between 1933 and 1945. it's easier for a non-white like me to see the truth, that i grew up in plato's cave/matrix.
as a latin american, i'm particularly grateful to the soviets, since hitler had some extremely nasty plans for my part of the world (barbarossa 2). whites are more tempted than the rest of us to deny reality, living as they do in the cave of the 40 thieves. they would have had nothing to fear from hitler as long as they did what they were told (as westerners who lived through nazi occupaton in ww2 can tell you), so they were never in any physical danger from hitler, unlike us non-whites.
@viewerjan291978: There's no need to be racist. You non-whites are just as tempted as anyone else to deny reality, whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. I suppose swinging from the trees is better than being in a cave?
if someone raped your mother and sister, then killed them, would you see them as humans?, now of course, not all germans did this, but the Soviet citizens believed that they did, and many actually had that happen to them, so now do you understand why they dont see them as humans
And Russians? If Russians as you speak can don't see Germans as humans practically all Eastern and Center Europe countries could do the same to them. Swarm of Russians was one of most terrible things in many territories. They move burning, raping, torturing, murdering for fun and saying that they bring freedom...
What about Russians? How many millions of children, women and old people did they gas and burn, you Nazi prick? From what I recall aside from some rapes in Germany the Eastern Europeans were fine, even the Germans were fine. Not something I would predict for anybody but the Germans if they defetated the USSR...
You wanna be blondy, I've met people from Ukraine & Poland who whose parents were shot by your ancestors so they can be kidnapped & adopted by SS as their own and attempt to make the least blond Europeans a little more blonder. Thank god not all Germans think like you.
er... the Soviets took over half of Europe BECAUSE they were attacked! You are the idiot! Your logic is like blaming the victim for taking revenge! I am not saying that the Soviet takeover of half of Europe was fair... but it was necessary as every tom dick and mother-raping west european harry tried throughout history to get their greedy hands on russia. Just dessert that the Soviets created a buffer zone. Now that the buffer zone is gone... the same agression is being repeated now...
@balwaan. You've got that completely wrong chum. As far as I'm aware no other power has ever had any interest in occupying any of the Soviet states; the only war Britain was involved in against the Russians was to prevent Russian expansionism in the Crimea. The Russians took over as much of Europe as they could post-war because Stalin was hungry for imperial power.
@balwaan. While the western allies opposed communist expansion, there was nothing they could do to stop the Russians destroying Poland, Czech etc. The inhabitants of those countries who aren't blindly communist thoroughly detest the Russians' influence to this day; overlooking for example Prague, it's very obvious why. They ruined them. Buffer zone? Bullshit. Stalin sided with Hitler as long as he thought there was something in it for him, right up to the German invasion of Russia.
yes, and like half of those defending the shadow of berlin were old men and boys, while the other half were racist eurocentric douchebags from SS divisions of Latvia, Lithuania, France, Denmark, Belgium, etc. died defending the fascist beast far away from home. its alright. nazi germany deserved way worse than the "brutality" they got from the soviets.
No. I had too many relatives die in that war to call for more violence. What I meant was that while human rights abuses in Germany post-war on the part of the Russians were sad (they happened on the part of the other allies too, and were also sad), and the Russians would have furthered their cause more by being humane, people focus on the atrocities too much and on German atrocities not enough. I know people who know Russians were brutal but had no idea the Germans were as well. That's bad.
@1987jkilla wait... saying we should focus more on Nazi German war crimes when we consider history makes me a nazi? On top of that I am not a national socialist, a fascist, or an antisemite. This means i am also not a "nazi." So basically I don't understand what you mean.
@1987jkilla you're right. I don't actually hate Germans or anything. And i don't think they were all nazis. Above when I mention that Berlin was being defended by many non-german SS divisions that is one thing i point out. And I know how you feel because i hate it when foreigners never shut up to me about Stalin and stuff, which happens. And i have some German friends at university and listen to German music. I just get angry when people propagate nazism. not that you were.
@vumpsh yea exactly. so we share the same opinion. damn we are all human beings. some of us are good, some are not that good. but it does not have to do anything with where they come from. good people mostly got killed in history. like the indians.
i stop now but nice to have read this afters 1 month :)
nasdrovje from germany/suisse to russia, love your language.
If god blessed the wehrmacht... er why did they get so utterly defeated? hmmm... are you now going to claim that the nazi's were god's martyr's? like jesus?... ha ha your wehrmacht was let me see... destroyed by the soviets last time I checked.
bring back soviet to us !
SixtySky987 6 months ago
Привет из Сербии,за наши.
1977delboy 8 months ago
how to watch this movie with subtitlle or where to download it
Stefan077777771 1 year ago
@Stefan077777771 /watch?v=J0oSUkYNiGA&feature=related
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Zvezda is one of my favorite movies. I also just finished watching The Ascent, that is a good Russian WW2 movie as well.
abstractthreat 1 year ago
Резать фашистких свиней...
lamantino05 1 year ago
Fuck RUSSIA long live DEUTSCHLAND
toworship 1 year ago
haha! go Sturmoviks! stupid nazi bastards...
brings back good memories of blowing nazis to hell in "IL2 Sturmovik" :)
stryker214 1 year ago
can you show us the other clips to..please mate
dando78 2 years ago
thanks for the clip, would be gratefull if you could se the other clips to
dando78 2 years ago
Славянско обединение! По бе да!
jjamesbondoviza 2 years ago
이 영화 매우 슬픈 영화였다.
그들은 그렇게 zvezda(stars)이 되었다.
ㅠㅠ
kikijang 2 years ago
0:29 "...наши..." ;-)
UbitiKoelja 3 years ago 7
Long live mother russia!
antiwestpropaganda 3 years ago 13
very good movie, just watched it
GEOAMPAS 3 years ago 3
Ahh! Now I know the movie that music video Gruppa Krovi by Kino came from.
Tungtvann 3 years ago
А у меня воевали 2 деда и 2 прадеда один погиб на курской дуге,все другие были ранены.А в Беларуссии немцы сжигали дома с жителями внутри,моя бабуля покойная до самой смерти невыносила немецкой речи..
BaranovV 3 years ago 6
Thanks for posting a good movie. ignore that ball-less nazi shithe*d testomatic12345...
balwaan 3 years ago
thank you for posting a very good film
hanvude 4 years ago 3
looks kinda like the A-Team xD
alexhaas 4 years ago
"Zvezda" is worth watching and, in some ways, it's also more interesting than "Saving Private Ryan" and "9th Company" which are both full of historical inaccuracies.
MdP2 4 years ago
where can i get this movie ? looks so good
RebelForce8 4 years ago
Steppenwolf1945 is an idiot. No intelligence what so ever. Comparing NKVD to Gestapo and or SS is like comparing apples and oranges. Are you really that clueless. My grandfather told me stories as he saw and witnessed how Ordinary german soldiers with SS took part in burning people alive in churches and homes. Particularly if that village supported partisans.
Golekov 4 years ago
You are nothing but a fucking liar, and to hell with your clueless old grandfather who is also a liar. Fuck the Partisans to.
testomatic12345 4 years ago
Someone should round up and execute all nazis like you. NKVD was horrible, but two wrongs don't make a right. Eternal glory to the partisans, and to Golekov's grandfather as well, who risked his life in defeat of the fascist swine.
vumpsh 4 years ago
Vumpsh, thank you for your kind words. My grandfather was in the 3rd Ukranian Front. I agree NKVD was horrible & most Soviet Soldiers did not know who they are at and during that the war, they all just wanted an end to it. Ordinary idiots like testomatic12345 would have joined the hitler youth during that era, other good intelligent Germans such as Colonel Hans Oster (the september plot-great book) or Claus Von Stauffenberg tried to assasinate him as did others.
Golekov 4 years ago
Мои тоже воевали. Прадед был в штрафбате и дошёл до Берлина- повезло. Многие близкие погибли, и солдаты и мирные лица. Моя бабушка пряталась от этой мрази по ночам на кладбище. Грустно что посли такой трагедии есчё есть фашисты.
vumpsh 3 years ago 3
NKVD was EXACTLY like the Gestapo and SS combined. EXACTLY.
NKVD tortured people, shot people, jailed people in Gulags. Tens of millions of people.
timorekusa 4 years ago
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Golekov, you idiot, I suggest you get off that mix of vodka and drugs you are siting on, open your fricking eyes and read my message a few more times. Don't forget to use your bird brains before you write somethinjg stupid next time, OK? Tell me where did Steppenwolf equated the NKVD and Gestapo?
redwolftide77 3 years ago
Your stupid analogy speaks volume. Enough said.
Golekov 3 years ago 3
Over 500,000 died liberating Poland, and for what, so Polish ancestors can complain about soviet occupation. I think maybe your ancestors would have rather lived under Nazi germany. I know not all poles think this way. But it is disturbing.
Golekov 4 years ago
The poles thank you for liberating the country. And then asked you to leave their country alone... but you stayed.
Similarly, Iraqis thanked the Americans for killing Saddam. But then USA stayed in...
timorekusa 4 years ago
An ordinary russian soldier was not political, rather patriotic. They saw it as their duty not only to liberate the Soviet Union, but entire europe from fascist pigs. So when Polish or other people complain about soviets not liberating bur rather occupying Poland, then I think you are sick.
Golekov 4 years ago 2
The Polish would have definitely been better off under the Germans.
testomatic12345 4 years ago
Yeah the Blond blue eyed ones maybe but the other...
armagedon4o 4 years ago
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I love you scum sucking communists always refer to yourselves as russian or patriotic. You were nothing but godless soviet scum trying to take over Europe and Germany one state at a time. Poland wanted war and got it.
testomatic12345 4 years ago
Really, it looks so old :O Then again it's the other way =)
Finarvas 4 years ago
heh, the knife-fighting scene in saving private ryan is totally stolen from this film
Finarvas 4 years ago
Saving private Ryan was made before this film.
kianttila 1 year ago
I think that if you are persecuted by the SS for being XXXX (insert crime/race/politics here) or by the OGPU/NKVD for XXXX (insert crime/race/politics here) the result would not be good for you. Two sides of the same coin
taff1976 4 years ago
There is a difference - the NKVD were killing their political opponents among their own people - that's internal strife and tragedy but none of your business, really. The SS were killing everybody wto make for the Liebensraum who was not German. That's a lot more people. By 1945 the USSR lost 25-40 million, mostly civilians. Most civilians in Germany were actually killed not by the NKVD but by the Allies bombing raids.
steppenwolf1945 4 years ago 3
Well, here is an idea - if you don't want the Russian Army to go raping your women and destroying your cities try NOT invading Russia first! Those countries you have in mind had field armies helping Germans to rape, burn and pillage through USSR in 1941-44. Remind you - Russians (Soviets really) came to Germany not on some dominance theory but to destroy their offenders.
steppenwolf1945 4 years ago 3
Is that a popular German myth now? I am curious if you read that in those books that German Nazi generals wrote on their leusure time upon request by the Americans? Also of note that the NKVD were dealing with their own compatriots - if the Germans killed each other off nobody would mind, I believe.
direwolf88 4 years ago
How was the NKVD similar to the SS? How many millions of chiddren, women and old people did they gas and burn?
direwolf88 4 years ago
That is merely a MYTH. Gassing was proved to be untrue. There was no cyanide in the walls of the so-called gas chambers. Unfortunate isn't it?
testomatic12345 4 years ago
"That is merely a MYTH. Gassing was proved to be untrue. There was no cyanide in the walls of the so-called gas chambers. Unfortunate isn't it?"
Wow. Auschwitz survivors say otherwise.
Who to trust - millions of people or an idiot on the internet hmmmmmm...
timorekusa 4 years ago 2
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What is freely asserted is freely denied.
Its funny how the millions are alive constantly making these claims. Yes the holocaust is a myth propagated by the and US and Soviet propaganda departments. Gassing is not even possible as described by the so-called victims. Total utter lies.
testomatic12345 4 years ago
Are you fucking retarded? Seriously?
Tribulation725 4 years ago
Glory to our Heroes!
comraderussian 4 years ago 2
The entire Turkish people greateful to Soviets for stopping those fascist monsters. Turkey would be in flames today if fucking nazis accomplished their target. This actually goes for entire world. Spaseba Russie!
mete6611 4 years ago 3
What the hell are you talking about? We'd be really fine both ways . . .
rakgitarmen 4 years ago
sen sus bakiim..
tankisia 4 years ago
Aslında Almanlar alsaydı çook ama çook daha iyi durumda olurduk ama tabii parti kafasıyla düşününce farklı oluyor . . .
rakgitarmen 4 years ago
shut the fuck up you stupid nazi piece of shit. You're proud of your fucking SS? Shut the fuck up. Your war was a disgrace to humanity. You are pathetic.
supimAndriy 4 years ago
very touching movie, i kept watching it many times, and soundtrack music r so nice!
khaviet 4 years ago
I dont what y'all guys are debating about. It's just a movie. And if you left a comment here, it means that you have been interested in this. So, let's just watch the movie and enjoy that there's no war...
Alexkrug90 4 years ago
That's a very good movie. I saw in in January in Polish TV. It was a debate after that - it says on the end of the movie, when we can see a Red Army, that those boys went to liberate Poland and half a million of the died. Many people here in Poland say that they wasn't liberating anyone and that the Russian soldiers were even worse than the Germans. Where the true lies - I don;t know.
mzacharzewski 4 years ago
@mzacharzewski: They didn't go to liberate Poland. Red Army soldiers went for two principal reasons: firstly, if they didn't, their own commanders would shoot them. Secondly, they wanted to take revenge on the Germans, quite understandably. The Russian commissariat wanted Poland to satisfy its own expansionist policies. The same reason the Germans wanted it.
Hypergluco 1 year ago
This is probably one of the most realistic portrayals of the eastern front (Combat wise) than any other film ever made, Especially enemy at the gates.
Games like Call of Duty should learn from this film.
CoolJack2 5 years ago
US Marines Smedley Butler and Gustav Hasford would have loved this film. The only good US Marine is a Red US Marine.
viewerjan291978 5 years ago
i have particular respect for western whites (like kim philby) who face the truth, just like i have special respect for germans who dared stand up to those freaked-out nazi psychos between 1933 and 1945. it's easier for a non-white like me to see the truth, that i grew up in plato's cave/matrix.
viewerjan291978 5 years ago
as a latin american, i'm particularly grateful to the soviets, since hitler had some extremely nasty plans for my part of the world (barbarossa 2). whites are more tempted than the rest of us to deny reality, living as they do in the cave of the 40 thieves. they would have had nothing to fear from hitler as long as they did what they were told (as westerners who lived through nazi occupaton in ww2 can tell you), so they were never in any physical danger from hitler, unlike us non-whites.
viewerjan291978 5 years ago
@viewerjan291978: There's no need to be racist. You non-whites are just as tempted as anyone else to deny reality, whatever the hell that's supposed to mean. I suppose swinging from the trees is better than being in a cave?
Hypergluco 1 year ago
just bought the film. using it to teach myself russian. those guys really were what yanks think their g.i.s were: the saviors of the world.
viewerjan291978 5 years ago
i just rented the film, with english subtitles. it's great. the dvd box says sales email address is dvdzone@hotpop.com.
viewerjan291978 5 years ago
Wow. That's impressive. I think I'll buy the movie now.
lillyankh 5 years ago
i've seen it a dozen times, and still love it
viewerjan291978 5 years ago
And nobody again thinks of the Wehrmachtssoldiers that have fallen, as humans. But I just can agree brilliant, except too few russians dying.
36Special 5 years ago
if someone raped your mother and sister, then killed them, would you see them as humans?, now of course, not all germans did this, but the Soviet citizens believed that they did, and many actually had that happen to them, so now do you understand why they dont see them as humans
1014512 5 years ago
And Russians? If Russians as you speak can don't see Germans as humans practically all Eastern and Center Europe countries could do the same to them. Swarm of Russians was one of most terrible things in many territories. They move burning, raping, torturing, murdering for fun and saying that they bring freedom...
Devales 5 years ago
What about Russians? How many millions of children, women and old people did they gas and burn, you Nazi prick? From what I recall aside from some rapes in Germany the Eastern Europeans were fine, even the Germans were fine. Not something I would predict for anybody but the Germans if they defetated the USSR...
direwolf88 4 years ago
36Special:''And nobody again thinks of the Wehrmachtssoldiers that have fallen, as humans...''
- well, nobody welcomed them to russia...
tzar2007 4 years ago 2
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The Soviets took over half of Europe you idiot.
Preemptive attack on the Soviets was totally called for. Fuck the Soviet Union.
testomatic12345 4 years ago
You wanna be blondy, I've met people from Ukraine & Poland who whose parents were shot by your ancestors so they can be kidnapped & adopted by SS as their own and attempt to make the least blond Europeans a little more blonder. Thank god not all Germans think like you.
Golekov 4 years ago 5
whoo the fuck wants to be blond anyway ?, you lily white bitch.
klugerhans 3 years ago
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I'm blond, you got a problem with blond hair color, stupid nigger bitch?? Shut your nigger ass and go fuck a donkey.
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lol! I´bet you look like a real macho with you blondy hair! you got blue eyes too? now go jerk your little rotten clit, you sperm drinker.
klugerhans 3 years ago
er... the Soviets took over half of Europe BECAUSE they were attacked! You are the idiot! Your logic is like blaming the victim for taking revenge! I am not saying that the Soviet takeover of half of Europe was fair... but it was necessary as every tom dick and mother-raping west european harry tried throughout history to get their greedy hands on russia. Just dessert that the Soviets created a buffer zone. Now that the buffer zone is gone... the same agression is being repeated now...
balwaan 3 years ago 5
@balwaan. You've got that completely wrong chum. As far as I'm aware no other power has ever had any interest in occupying any of the Soviet states; the only war Britain was involved in against the Russians was to prevent Russian expansionism in the Crimea. The Russians took over as much of Europe as they could post-war because Stalin was hungry for imperial power.
Hypergluco 1 year ago
@balwaan. While the western allies opposed communist expansion, there was nothing they could do to stop the Russians destroying Poland, Czech etc. The inhabitants of those countries who aren't blindly communist thoroughly detest the Russians' influence to this day; overlooking for example Prague, it's very obvious why. They ruined them. Buffer zone? Bullshit. Stalin sided with Hitler as long as he thought there was something in it for him, right up to the German invasion of Russia.
Hypergluco 1 year ago
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God bless the Wehrmacht soldiers, the greatest fighting force ever to walk Gods green earth.
testomatic12345 4 years ago
what happened to the greatest fighting force ever, then? Ended up in the ruins of Berlin, if my memory doesn't fail me. Hehe
vulgarisopinio 3 years ago 2
yes, and like half of those defending the shadow of berlin were old men and boys, while the other half were racist eurocentric douchebags from SS divisions of Latvia, Lithuania, France, Denmark, Belgium, etc. died defending the fascist beast far away from home. its alright. nazi germany deserved way worse than the "brutality" they got from the soviets.
vumpsh 3 years ago 5
so what means "nazi germany" to you? deserve worse? kill all civilians? dont just rape em?
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why people just want more violence and dont learn from the terrible things which happened in 20th century, so fking sad.
jkillaraparschloch 1 year ago
No. I had too many relatives die in that war to call for more violence. What I meant was that while human rights abuses in Germany post-war on the part of the Russians were sad (they happened on the part of the other allies too, and were also sad), and the Russians would have furthered their cause more by being humane, people focus on the atrocities too much and on German atrocities not enough. I know people who know Russians were brutal but had no idea the Germans were as well. That's bad.
vumpsh 1 year ago
@vumpsh seems like you are the nazi
1987jkilla 1 year ago
@1987jkilla wait... saying we should focus more on Nazi German war crimes when we consider history makes me a nazi? On top of that I am not a national socialist, a fascist, or an antisemite. This means i am also not a "nazi." So basically I don't understand what you mean.
vumpsh 1 year ago
@vumpsh what happened was terrible for each one of us.
but where is the need to seed more hate? most people think every german was a nazi that time, isnt that bad enough? my grandpa was no nazi.
sorry my first comment was not appropriatei should have said it like i do now.
1987jkilla 1 year ago
@1987jkilla you're right. I don't actually hate Germans or anything. And i don't think they were all nazis. Above when I mention that Berlin was being defended by many non-german SS divisions that is one thing i point out. And I know how you feel because i hate it when foreigners never shut up to me about Stalin and stuff, which happens. And i have some German friends at university and listen to German music. I just get angry when people propagate nazism. not that you were.
vumpsh 1 year ago
@vumpsh yea exactly. so we share the same opinion. damn we are all human beings. some of us are good, some are not that good. but it does not have to do anything with where they come from. good people mostly got killed in history. like the indians.
i stop now but nice to have read this afters 1 month :)
nasdrovje from germany/suisse to russia, love your language.
1987jkilla 1 year ago
If god blessed the wehrmacht... er why did they get so utterly defeated? hmmm... are you now going to claim that the nazi's were god's martyr's? like jesus?... ha ha your wehrmacht was let me see... destroyed by the soviets last time I checked.
balwaan 3 years ago 5
Brilliant!
chrlin05 5 years ago