The 1849 Hornsbey is really a work of art. It was just such an engine that powered the B-29 bombers that won the War Between the States for the North!!! A real piece of history - I have 17 of them - but they ran only on Gen. Grants whiskey - which is no longer available - what a damn shame too!!!
is that hissing I hear the torch burning the entire time the engine is running? If so these hot bulbs were designed to run off of engine heat as long as they have some kind of insulation cover over them. They like to run with a little carbon buildup on the inside of the cast dome. This carbon has little "fingers" of crap that glow red hot and help with ignition.
These old engines ran on parrafin and you had to heat up a heat bulb in the cylinder head to get the engine to fire. Typically you'd use a torch or a fire to get the bulb up to temperature. You have to be really careful starting these things as you have to turn the flywheel into compression for it to start, make sure you don't have and appendages you like in the way the flywheel when it starts!
Not far off. This uses internal combustion, titanic used steam. The valving was similar 2 stk expansion triple reciprocating engine. This of course is 4 stroke single reciprocation. The higher pressure steam actually went through from small to large cyl as well, as pressure drops larger volume needed. Coal heat water make steam, steam press on pistons. Oil compressed burn expand press on piston. The steam engine itself is actually far more efficient because its simply pressure vs burn.
Correct, also for powering the electrical system. A mistake in the design was not putting a smaller turbine in for reverse on the center prop. Now days everything is bi-directional or azi-pod.
This is allegedly why the ship did not clear the iceberg as when evasive action was finally taken the centre prop was stopped instead of reversed and there was not enough water flow over the rudder.
I love the "language" that these old engines have. No two of these old engines seem to make the same sound, even when they are the same year and make. My mother grew up on a small fishing island on Canada's east coast and she can still recount the unique sound each fisherman's one lunger made as it aproached through the fog. My fathers family had one of these engines in their sawmill they called it Puffin' Billy. Don't know what make it was though - my grandfather sold it back in the 50's
People got cheap. I run a 66 truck every day for working around the farm and it runs great. My dad bought a 03 truck correspondent model to my 66 and he just bought another new one because he wore the 03 out already.
Nice piece Paul-!! Those British engines have such nice lines- functional art. Also gotta love those curved spokes- we seldom see those in the US. Thanks for posting.
The modern version would be complex, high speed, and not "foreverness". These engines could and did run for decades without renewal of any parts, and without wear-out. No high speed modern engine can equal them for durability, or for ability to run on such poor fuels.
It runs on paraffin vapour. The torch is used to heat up the liquid paraffin so that it developes into a vapour. These engines were used to run workshops and factories. The first Otto engine to be Manufactured in britain was the 1895 Hornsby Akroid.
Its not a steam engine, certainly not a model, and deffonatly not for anyone who didnt know that!! If your, find out when local steam/vintage rallys are on, go talk to the people. - Very occasionally ebay is used a advertising medium, but realistically, if you think everthing can be done online maybe an animated gif image, rather than the real thing?
Otherwise, bloody cool to watch and listen to, but well suited to being owned by some else! I'll stick with the steamboat.
Nice engine. I love it. Also it sounds great. They should make a diesel engine cd.
keyboardjeff 9 months ago
those are the neatest sounding engines ever !! i want one
kinura26 10 months ago
sooooo nice!
68knative 1 year ago
The 1849 Hornsbey is really a work of art. It was just such an engine that powered the B-29 bombers that won the War Between the States for the North!!! A real piece of history - I have 17 of them - but they ran only on Gen. Grants whiskey - which is no longer available - what a damn shame too!!!
jehovahuponyou 1 year ago
simply heaven
antsea111 1 year ago
that has a nice sound to it sounds like its breathing..
GayBoyRunning 2 years ago
the thing spinning on the vertical shaft ,govenor?
saturday27 2 years ago 2
Yep, possibly an eddy current governor.
douro20 1 year ago
Really nice indeed... Grany got all her breath...it would be very hot to handle it...
Alpinus67 2 years ago
Great job. I almost thought it was going to move off on its own!
Hanglands 2 years ago
very good restoration mate
dhipender 2 years ago
is that hissing I hear the torch burning the entire time the engine is running? If so these hot bulbs were designed to run off of engine heat as long as they have some kind of insulation cover over them. They like to run with a little carbon buildup on the inside of the cast dome. This carbon has little "fingers" of crap that glow red hot and help with ignition.
playswithorgans 2 years ago
These old engines ran on parrafin and you had to heat up a heat bulb in the cylinder head to get the engine to fire. Typically you'd use a torch or a fire to get the bulb up to temperature. You have to be really careful starting these things as you have to turn the flywheel into compression for it to start, make sure you don't have and appendages you like in the way the flywheel when it starts!
spencnaz 2 years ago
You say it's ana oil engine. Is it similar to a diesel? ie: does it compression to combust the fuel?
peterbabine 2 years ago
Yeah,actually,it will gladly combust anything thats flammable,and can be injected in the cylinder.
(neat,huh?)
MrBshit225 2 years ago
Is this the same machine featured in The Secret Life of the Internal Combustion Engine? If so then do Hornsbys have spark ignition as implied?
regregex 2 years ago
For some reason the sound of it acceleraten reminds me of the movie Titanic when they speed up the engine.
EdwardPack1988 3 years ago
Same technology :)
flamerail 3 years ago
Not far off. This uses internal combustion, titanic used steam. The valving was similar 2 stk expansion triple reciprocating engine. This of course is 4 stroke single reciprocation. The higher pressure steam actually went through from small to large cyl as well, as pressure drops larger volume needed. Coal heat water make steam, steam press on pistons. Oil compressed burn expand press on piston. The steam engine itself is actually far more efficient because its simply pressure vs burn.
ibook133 3 years ago
Titanic also had a turbine steam engine for the center propeler and reverse
EdwardPack1988 3 years ago
Correct, also for powering the electrical system. A mistake in the design was not putting a smaller turbine in for reverse on the center prop. Now days everything is bi-directional or azi-pod.
ibook133 3 years ago
Was it a mistake in the movie titanic when they showed the recipocation engine stalling and reverseing. I didn't think those engines could do that.
EdwardPack1988 3 years ago
No, all they had to do was open the valves in reverse.
ibook133 3 years ago
This is allegedly why the ship did not clear the iceberg as when evasive action was finally taken the centre prop was stopped instead of reversed and there was not enough water flow over the rudder.
regregex 2 years ago
what fuel does it use ?
pistho1 3 years ago
I love the "language" that these old engines have. No two of these old engines seem to make the same sound, even when they are the same year and make. My mother grew up on a small fishing island on Canada's east coast and she can still recount the unique sound each fisherman's one lunger made as it aproached through the fog. My fathers family had one of these engines in their sawmill they called it Puffin' Billy. Don't know what make it was though - my grandfather sold it back in the 50's
marshgre 3 years ago
if i have one like that, i can use water pump well or generator
generator5500 3 years ago
If I had one of these I would watch it run for hours. Of course I would probably have a genny on it as not to be a total waste of energy :P
OblivionSundae 3 years ago
there's no money to be made in machines that last.
redbeard2001 3 years ago 5
Unless you sell them for three times the price with that as the take.
maistrooismi 3 years ago 2
What ever happened to building machines that last?
oldskoolcoinop 3 years ago 14
People got cheap. I run a 66 truck every day for working around the farm and it runs great. My dad bought a 03 truck correspondent model to my 66 and he just bought another new one because he wore the 03 out already.
AOO08DOYOUHEAR 3 years ago 8
@oldskoolcoinop There's not enough money for the greedy these days in dependable machinery.
philip21786 1 year ago
@oldskoolcoinop Everything industry builds today cheap dishonest crap!
partsproduction 11 months ago
At 3mins it seems there is something leaking from the engine. Any ideas as to what it might be?
geoff390 3 years ago 3
Spill from the sprayer, now goes into a return pipe to the tank.
semidiesel 3 years ago
@semidiesel ,
The Oilers are Empty ....!!!
GpunktHartman 1 year ago
@GpunktHartman Cylinder oiler is half full and the crank oiler has about 1/2 an inch, more than enough for the 5 minute run.
semidiesel 1 year ago
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@semidiesel the Oilers are empty
GpunktHartman 1 year ago
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@semidiesel: the Oilers are empty !!!
GpunktHartman 1 year ago
Enchanting. That's all I can say.
CaptainCropper 3 years ago
Nice engine, its good that some peaple so the good in old teck and the hisory
gilbo49bgc 3 years ago
Nice piece Paul-!! Those British engines have such nice lines- functional art. Also gotta love those curved spokes- we seldom see those in the US. Thanks for posting.
fordson23 4 years ago 2
Now that is a primitive beast. Noisy smelly looks like it should be burning coal. Very very cool.
Soothsayerman 4 years ago 2
What's the nasty grinding/crunching sound?
BadAndUgly 4 years ago
LPG blow torch in the background.
semidiesel 4 years ago
No, not that, but saw later that it was the exhausts making the noise.
BadAndUgly 4 years ago
How much fuel does a motor like that burn per hour? Is it true that hot bulb engines can run on practically ANYTHING including coal dust?
Kornball426 4 years ago
yes, thats pretty much true.
TheChiefEngineer 2 years ago
that is a interesting mecanical masterpice
combustibil3000 4 years ago
i hear you can run a diesel engine on furnace oil? is this true?
kiteLe06 4 years ago
Is the engine eventually self-sustaining without the blow lamp on the fuel vapouriser?
NJPurling 4 years ago
She is, blowlamp goes off on the clip at 2:54.
semidiesel 4 years ago
What a beaut! Solid workhorse.
mason104 4 years ago
man they dont make them like they used too :(
mouserorignal 4 years ago 2
they dont even make them anymore infact
gunnut6 4 years ago 2
What a beautiful old oil engine, i could listen to that all day, almost sounds like the ruston 'C'
nitro105 4 years ago
Imagine a modern engine that size, how much hp it would make... the tq.....
ibook133 4 years ago
You miss the point.
These were forever machines designed to run day in day out on the liquid fuel at hand( barely refined oil ).
northerbrewer 4 years ago
Well, yea, i know, i was just saying imagine what a modern version would be, smaller, and same "forever-ness".
ibook133 4 years ago
The modern version would be complex, high speed, and not "foreverness". These engines could and did run for decades without renewal of any parts, and without wear-out. No high speed modern engine can equal them for durability, or for ability to run on such poor fuels.
HartfordTommy 4 years ago
And nope it isn't a steam engine i know
It runs on paraffin vapour. The torch is used to heat up the liquid paraffin so that it developes into a vapour. These engines were used to run workshops and factories. The first Otto engine to be Manufactured in britain was the 1895 Hornsby Akroid.
krhall78 4 years ago
These engines are extremely rare. And very difficult to aquire. The only place i know where you can get hold of model steam engines is eBay.
krhall78 4 years ago
Its not a steam engine, certainly not a model, and deffonatly not for anyone who didnt know that!! If your, find out when local steam/vintage rallys are on, go talk to the people. - Very occasionally ebay is used a advertising medium, but realistically, if you think everthing can be done online maybe an animated gif image, rather than the real thing?
Otherwise, bloody cool to watch and listen to, but well suited to being owned by some else! I'll stick with the steamboat.
Daniel
dhutch2000 4 years ago
does anyone know where i can buy something likethis, i dont find the small cheap steam engines very realistic in how the smoke is or the sound?!!
342118 4 years ago
its not a steam engine!!its an internal combustion engine!!
bugsier5 4 years ago
That looks very similar to the 1895 Hornsby Akroid build by Nicholas Otto.
Superb engines, clumsy but very reliable and a very potent source of power.
krhall78 4 years ago
It wasn't built by Otto, but it was one of the first Otto engines to be built in England.
douro20 4 years ago
Nice to see some of your vids appearing on You Tube.......
Excellent
loony45 4 years ago