Zangief Short Jump

[alundrasrt]

Works on SSF4?

[xjoey77]

well I am sorry to let you know that NOT only Zangief can do this, Rose and Honda can do it as well.

[HASJ]

When I thought you couldn't hate him more!

[RaniumintheCranium]

sorry wasnt oaying attention. couldn't stop listening to the background sportscaster

[giograves]

Question, is this still viable in SUPER???

Gief's jump is higher, and he goes less distance horizontally. Getting AA'ed like crazy in SUPER...

[viperRX]

NICE, david!

[sidelionreport]

holy crap this is awesome

[crapzors]

your stick is awesome...LOLOLOL !!

[baderhhh]

dude ... i can't catch the input .. sorry can u tell how

[UltraDavid]

ding

[zionster]

Hi david, is this the type of jump u use on ur cross ups, to prevent characters like sagat and ryu to uppercut u when u attempt to knee drop and double suplex?

[UltraDavid]

sometimes, but not usually. in general i just do a regular jump because that works just fine, and it can be a crossup or not depending on where you jump from. but there are some setups where you mix up between regular and short jump because for those setups, the difference between regular and short results in a crossup or not a crossup. the opponent can't tell which is which, so he just has to guess which way to block.

[zionster]

hi ultradavid, thanks for the demo of the short jump

i noticed, when gief knocks his opponents down, and does the knee drop and immediately after, into the double suplex, is this the jump that they use, and is there a distance for that to happen?

[zionster]

thanks for the info david, thats really helped my game alot!

sorry to trouble u one more time, but apart from the short jump, does Zangief have a "low" jump as well?

[glisignoli]

Does this work in the arcade version?

[UltraDavid]

of course!

[penguinbelly]

Are you sure it's only Gief that does this? :)

[UltraDavid]

yes i am, it's been confirmed by people in capcom

[ParryAll]

Oh wow and here I thought I was losing my mind. As a Rufus player, you have to make it a mission to keep him out with s.HP. I would do it to a jumping Gief and I KNEW the spacing was perfect yet the punch would miss and I'd eat FAB.

[icnfde]

So you can short jump into SPD avoiding any chance of getting hit?

lol

[UltraDavid]

No, this just changes how you deal with Gief's jumps. You can dash forward and then dragon punch, or if you just have normal antiairs or don't have a good dash etc, it's just a guessing game. Will Gief do regular jump and are you at a range where you can antiair that? Will he do short jump and are you at a range where you can antiair that? Which jump will he do, which antiair should you use, etc. It's easier for Gief to jump now than before, but you can definitely still antiair him.

[swaboo]

Honda can do this when using his jumping fierce punch.

[UltraDavid]

no, that's different.  honda's neutral jump fierce is programmed to be fully controllable once you press fierce in the air. in other words, it's the same jump modified by using the fierce button's built-in attributes.

by contrast this gief thing is literally a different jump from the get-go. you don't modify the jump once you get into the air, you're just using a separate, shorter kind of jump.

[theROA]

Pretty sick. Have to watch out for that.

[theROA]

Jeez dude do you just go through all the SF4 vids and hate? Stop watching em if you think this game's "broken".

[DVSKaz]

wow what a sick trick!

[ItsMoniKenso]

NO -NOw i cant AA zangief with my sims back RH anymore

[crapzors]

I can jump weak shoryuken with that ? That would be great to avoid sagat high kick too I think, thank you.

[Limited317]

Can I do this going backwards?

[UltraDavid]

yep, forwards and backwards both work (though i don't know why you'd do it backwards)

[Limited317]

Dunno either, but it would be intresting to see it being used to punish Akumas Demon when Straight jump or full back jump cant punish or put you out of range. When I have the chance to play sf4 ill defitnetly practice this. Thanks for the vid!

[Xavier32]

OMG THIS IS AWESOME.

[n0c2urnal]

the gief...

[GRRAB]

MOTHERFUCKING GIEF SHENANIGANS

[BboyKnoLedge]

sooooooo funny lol

[Alansr10]

DAMN NUGGETS!!!!

[VonGriff]

WTF?!

[roggy12345]

omg this is a good move

[ChuckxBartowski]

The Canucks are going to win the playoffs, brah

[DaDoppen]

I'm quite sure he leaves the ground faste rif you short jump too. Against a CPU Cammy that did her super as soon as the match started, I dried to jump up, but then I regret myself and jumped backwards. It was only later I realized that you're normally not able to leave the ground before it hits. I also notices that sometimes Jump back from a bistance SPD worked, but sometimes she is in the air. But great find, I wouldn't have though that it actually WAS something XD

[Shoryuspectre]

Wow great find UD! I like the hockey in the background too!

[OdiePzO]

I dragon punch XD

[strangecity]

great, like zief needed any more weapons. but a very nice find all the same. good job.

[meavid]

Go Canucks go!!!

[ChuckxBartowski]

I LOVE YOU, MAKE LOVE WITH ME

[vgbe]

I don't think that it is going to have as big an impact as kara EX green hand punishing blanka balls, but this shit could have ridiculous applications.

Baiting anti airs, making cross ups a lot more unpredictable, making Sagat's fireball game a lot less retarded.

[bigboindabrook]

anyone use this yet?

[Cajunx2001]

@bigboindabrook

.. I know this response comes late and you may have probably figured this out, but this is the ONE MOVE you MUST use to defeat a good Dhalsim player.

[FINALAXE]

anyone knows how to do that short jump?

[vgbe]

You really should read the video info before making comments

[Andre00x]

Ah crap does he really need a short jump? He's already a pain in the ass to begin with.

[Antzer12]

ah jesus... i can see how this can fuck up the bison matchup already... fml

[gosisthebest]

gief really needed this.

really he did.

yeah.

:|

[brightfame88]

great find, i wonder ultradavid mains gief still

[BananaWeed]

Nice.

[blazer4328]

wow thx for postin this video ill practice it

[JiBbo]

good stuff

[HeartNana4L]

Guess that makes sense as to why my Sakura c.HP always whiffs on him and gets me thrown...

[LordIceman]

Everyone is complaining as if the young man implamented this into the game in the first place...

You should be a bit greatfull this was founded now and you can be able to better prepare your self in game, rather than discovering this during a tourny match with money on the line and you say "Man how or why did all my stuff whiff" or "why did it seem like zangief was never in range for my anti- air moves to work??

[Rivalman]

Thats the ultra D i know, Hockey in the background haha

[xblacklacx]

super

[obey325]

great... just great -____-

[shiken]

fffffffffffffffffffffff D:

i wish this was a factor for every character in SFIV, the mind games would be intense. KoF vs SF anyone? haha.

[TheBf666]

Damn man, gief is already strong enough as it is....

[mcBeast]

WOW... that's sooo... good. LOL

And bad T-T... WHY DID YOU HAVE TO FIND THIS OUT... WHYYY!!! /slitswrist

[crcromwell]

Oh good lord. Zangief totally did not need this to win.

[OGSKrew]

Is this only Zangief specific?

[UltraDavid]

Yep, Zangief is the only character who can do this.

[SheltonShenanigans]

You guys really had to go and find something that makes a Gief match up even more annoying? :(

[Jennero]

Wow here come the SPDs!

[BadAssBlackOverlord]

Yup. I can wait. I am gonna have fun.