for all thor fans out there normal hulk has been able t lift mjolnir and beat thor down with it and was able to kick the crap out of thor. thor was bleeding and had bruises everywhere but hulk had no scratches on him. and hulk has singlehandedly beaten down thanos with his bear hands and rune thor killed a fake hulk it wasnt the real hulk and marvel said that herc is equal and is able to beat thor in a stright up fight while hulk has wrecked herc on more than one occasion
Hulk is more durable and invulernable than thor. But he isn't stronger. If we're talking blood lusted, warrior madness classic thor, he would own wwh in any way or form
Who cares who the strongest is, this is all a fairy tale world hahaha. The hulk held up a 150 billion ton mountain. That seem's pretty impressive to me, I don't know though maybe Thor has Held up 200 billion pounds but who cares, they are both unimaginably strong in a fair tale world.
Hulk can break an asteroid twice the size of earth? no, that doesn't prove his strength, it proves his durability. he was blasted from earth and hit the asteroid, not punch it. thor could've whacked the asteroid without any boost. Thor is on supermans strength level. Sentry defeated (or stalemated) wwh. Face it people, hulk isn't supposed to be the strongest there is. he was way too exagerrated over these years. even freaking spiderman low blowed hulk off balance.
@atomichead777 Last time I checked Thor couldn't beat Hercules without his hammer. In Fear Itself, Thor admitted he could never beat the Hulk. In Hulk #300 Thor said this "any weapon in the hand of the Hulk would kill me". Thor got the crap beat out of him by Sentry, and yes while Thor killed Sentry, Sentry let him. His powers calm the Hulk down, and Hulk still had enough power to knock him out. Thor could only dent Onslaughts armor. Hulk beat Onslaught with a punch.
thats because jean grey turned off banner, which enhanced hulks strength to break onslaughts armor, duh. also, in most of the classic fights, thor usually either beat hulk or didn't even try and ended up getting beat. Hulk was blasted from earth when he his the asteroid, and it was the momentum and his body mass that destroyed it, he didn't jump himself. Hercs is around thors might, even more per say. and funny thing is, when hercs was fighting hulk, he was holding back.
@atomichead777 Hulk destroyed an astroid 2x size of Earth. A push has more more force than a punch. I'm sure hulk could push or pull something 3x the size of Earth. Hulk scared Thanos in his weakest incarnation Professor Hulk. WWHulk is much stronger than that hulk so I'm sure as WWHulk, Hulk could beat Thanos. Hulks not even a God yet he is pretty much immortal and stronger than Thor and Hercules, and even scared Zeus. Hulk is stronger than Thor.
hulk wasn't pushed, he was SHOT FROM earth and HIT the asteroid which caused a shockwave, destroying it. u can't assume hulks stronger than thor just because thor was caught off balance and hulk got free shots, it doesn't prove anything. the only way to prove it is if the two had an arm wrestling match. but anyways, thanos may fear the hulk, but he can stil beat him. he still has access to the IG and HOU. Thor is stronger than hulk, but hulk is more DURABLE than thor. got it?
@atomichead777 Nope I don't got it and neither do you. Thor doesn't try? Wayyyyy wrong. He tried to kill him in Fear Its Self and in Hulk #300. When it said to the side "Thor hit Hulk with full strength". Hulk was going to kill Thor, which is why Dr. Strange sent him to another deminsion. Also Jean Grey didn't do anything special. She didn't enhance his strength just gave him access to more of it in a shorter amount of time. She didn't amp him up, just skipped all the....
@atomichead777 "madder Hulk gets" part. Hulk is stronger than Thor, Thor isn't stronger than Hulk. I'm not saying Thor can't beat Hulk in a fight. Because he has, trying. Hulk at his best without being amped, and Thor at his best without being amped, Hulk wins. Thor admitted it. Read Fear Its Self 6 or 5. You can find it on youtube. Thor also got beat by Red Hulk, who was beaten up by Hulk, in which Rulk said this "I've beaten Thor". He said that because he thought that was...
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 A feat great enough which would also mean he could beat Hulk. He was obviously wrong.... way wrong. And that wasn't even Hulk at his best.
i said jean grey shut off banner, which meant that hulk was able to double his usual strength since his mind isn't limited to his innerself. Hulks only stronger than thor if he surpasses his strength. but hold on a sec. this argument is getting nowhere since we're using different versions. I'm using classic thor, and ur using a current hulk. that can vary extremely when it comes to strength. current thor is not as strong as current hulk, but what about classic thor?
@atomichead777 That is true when comparing both to themselves. In the past Hulk didn't get bigger and stronger when mad. And he didn't become Hulk out of anger. But yes even classic Hulk is stronger than classic Thor. I know this for 100 percent fact. In the 80's Marvel put this power grid thing in one of their comics, Hulk was number one, Thing was number two, and Thor was tied in third with Namor. You're right though they are different now, I still say Hulk is stronger...
@atomichead777 Don't get me wrong though, Thor has beaten Hulk. And yes amped up to their best I think Thor would win. I don't think anyone has anything on Odin force Thor. Maybe Hulk at the best he could possibly be. But Thor would still have an advantage because hes not limited to just hand combat where the Hulk is. By the way I don't pick Hulk because I like him alot. Hes my favorite along with Thor and Wolverine. But based off of comics and feats I'd have to say Hulk.
i guess i only thought thor was stronger because stan lee said so. but then again, time has changed, and there's been countless of writers that differed from that. here's the way i see it. hulks only stronger than thor if his strength level passes thors strength level. we can both agree on that, right?
@atomichead777 Stan Lee didn't say it flat out. He only said if you want to make them the strongest you make them a god. But Thor's not the only god, and if being immortal makes you a god, Hulk can be considered a god. But yeah I agree, I think Marvel itself said that when Bruce becomes Hulk he starts off only being able to lift to 70 tons where Thor lifts 100 tons at all times.
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 no a marvel handbook states that hulk is 110 tons his base strength and thor is 95 with the belt of strentgh but its changed mow but back then thats what it was and when u think of thor bieng askyfather look at wbh he is able to rip apart the atoms of anybody and just wwh was able to pull back tectinc plates while bieng burned alive and ia able to break the world in 3 steps. WHY DO U THINK THEY CALL HIM WORLDBREAKER AND THE STRONGEST THERE IS
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another thing people don't realize is that hulk was hit by power cosmic and even had been drain before. but he always came back. one or two hits by zeus wouldn't do much. the fight with hurcules he won in that comic. the what if comic shown in this was a tied.but hulk still kept up with thor. if you don't believe me then read the comics. it is there don't watch a video that bashes a charactor and agree with it when u don't know the whole story.
the fight with zeus is one where the hulk had held back. even then when they fought . Hulk did not go to zeus to fight he went there to help his friends. if he was there to fight then he would have won.many of you would say that i'm a fanboy. but think of this. if thor beat zeus in a fight and hulk had beat Thor in many fights then should he not beat able to beat zeus as well. it's not being a fanboy . it's called logic.
Zeus rivals Odin (another Earth Godhead with might enough to threaten a galaxy) in terms of sheer power. Against one who can use mind-numbing amounts of mystical and cosmic energies and bring to bear millennia of fighting experience, I just can't see Hulk beating the Father God of the Western World without being empowered by another such or greater being.
Of course, had it been Kratos instead the hulk we all know how these fights would have turned out.. Mmmm, Kratos ripping Thors head clean off; I'd pay good money to see that! Blondie tosser...
the hulk never wanted to fight he just wanted to make a point to zeus.. the hulk was not angry at all there's no doubt that zeus would win but i think would be a much closer fight if the hulk has a reason to fight zeus.
Yes, Zeus has lightning from his hands, but if you read my previous comments to Staley you would know that doesn't mean anything to me. Like I said before Zeus is synonymous with lightning, the lightning around his fist are more for show nothing more. There is nothing in the comic that even remotely suggest that Zeus amped himself up for the fight. Especially after he accepted Hulks challenge. And yes Zeus very will did depower Hulk at some point AFTER the fist fight...cont
@stasshole1984 you were right about this guy when you commented last week on this video. I've pretty much said the same thing you've said to him (more or less), except I was unapologetic about it--hence, his little tirade. Like I've said, you've got nothing to apologize for. You make a great case as of why Hulk lost to Zeus in a fair fight. He is a condesceding, narcissistic, egotistical, appoplectic, foaming at the mouth fanboy that doesn't want to except the outcomes of Hulks 621 and 622.
@staley1981 shew...wow. Yeah, I just thought that if I came at this civilly and with no insults or put downs that I might get through to him that this was a fair fight but I guess I failed lol. In the end he just wanted to believe what he wanted to believed. Saying the fight wasn't fair bc Zeus used "magic fist" is just ridiculous, as the comic mentions NOTHING of the sort, he was definitely trying to find any crumb he could to justify Hulk's defeat.
@stasshole1984 thank you, finally someone speaks with sense. hulk can not beat zeus. no matter how strong he becomes. if their is 1 thing i know about zeus after years of keeping up with marvel is that zeus can also raise his strength to unlimited levels & he does not have to get angry to do so. hulk is just not stronger then zeus except it, just like i had to except the physically thor is not stronger then the hulk......physically.
@ajanihodge Your 'exceptance' sounds more like brainwashing -- and bad grammar. Hulk has yet to prove he is stronger than Thor. There is no canon proof he is. There is, however, proof Thor is stronger than Hulk. Defenders #10 proves this.
@Dynamo001 hey i personally think thor is stronger but come on, seriously, marvel claims thor to be physically stronger then hulk but when they show non comic book readers fights between hulk & thor it is the hulk that always dominates thor, its marvels bad writing & lack of order when it comes to their characters, if thor is physically stronger then hulk thor should win every battle weather canon or not....do you not agree, but instead thor loses to hulk at times....
@ajanihodge In non-canon stories, anything goes. There are a lot of writers that are fans of Hulk, but know Stan Lee declared Thor to be stronger and created the non-canon approach to have Hulk defeat Thor. In all of their canon fights, Thor has never lost to Hulk and never been KO'd. Technically, he would kill Hulk in a real fight. In Hulk #440, Thor was going into berserker rage and there STILL was a draw. There is always some kind of distraction or plot twist or Thor playing nice.
@Dynamo001 i agree with you on that. my only problem is that i cant stand how marvel has hulk dominating thor in the cartoons & animations, i know they are not base on the real story of the characters but to people that do not read the comics it very hard to say that thor can over power the hulk, but your right about thor being much stronger!
@ajanihodge Well you have to remember that the catroons are aimed at a younger audience, where alot of the Hulk fans are. So they will favor the childrens favorit over Thor. I wouldnt worry too much about it, they are basicly just childrens what if´s.
@animemron i totally agree with you! hulk fans seen to be very silly when it comes to hulk versus.......im mean i like the hulk but that dosnt mean that he can beat everyone he goes up against.
@ajanihodge yes we know that duhhh but ok zues the guy how made this video didnt even show why he lost... hulk lost cuz he didnt wonna fight him he was trying t save his ppl and u can look it up hulk bet hurcules (just go to hulk vs hurcules if u dont blive me) and come on really hulk always bet thor with one attack on the avingers.... u can look that up to... but like i said i know he cant bet everyone
@staley1981 You know this wasn't even a discussion before planet hulk and wwh came out, sure there were rabid Hulk fanyboys out there but even most of whom I encountered back then would accept that any Skyfather was leaps and bounds more powerful than the Hulk. Even though I like both books, its these books imo that have lighted the hulk fanboy fire to unprecedented levels. I mean I've gotten into an argument with that Harbox guy over GALACTUS vs Hulk! This guy believes that Hulk could win0_0
@staley1981 As far as LeBear goes, he's what I would classify as a "Hulk Apologist" lol. He accepts that Hulk lost, but he can't just leave it at that, he has to make excuses as to WHY he lost and if this situation was different then there MIGHT have been a different outcome blah blah. Hence the whole "Zeus depowered him", and "magic fist" excuses come into play. But its all BS that I already refuted so I'll just leave it at that.
@stasshole1984 I heard about that guy saying Hulk could beat Galactus. You're right about Planet Hulk and World War Hulk too. I'd like to throw in the Hulk vs. cartoons (which think was the icing on the cake). Hulk fanatics always cite those cartoons. I swear those three things created Hulk dolts out of thin air. By the way, you didn't fail at getting your point across, the other guy just failed to accept logical nonpartisan thinking.
@stasshole1984 well im not saying hulk can beat zeus but lets look at some facts about that fight. 1hulk never intended to fight zeus he only went there to make a point to zeus. before the fight zeus said he would not use his magic after one punch from the hulk zeus immediately changed his mind, now one could argue zeus is a liar or that punch hurt.2. when hulk was chained the dude said you can break these chains hulk said make me mad enough and i can.so he was not mad. not a bad lost for hulk
@therealistone2003 "After one punch Zeus immediately changed his mind" Thats BS, what did he do that you think made him change his mind?
After Hulk punched him and he got back up it was HERA that told him to fry his green ass, but Zeus didn't listen to her he said something along the lines of "The word of Zeus! YOU'RE TERMS blah blah" He basically accepted hulks challenge to a fist fight. He DIDN'T use any goddamn magic after they started the fist fight. All of it was purely PHYSICAL.
@therealistone2003 "After one punch Zeus immediately changed his mind" Thats BS, what did he do that you think made him change his mind?
After Hulk punched him and he got back up it was HERA that told him to fry his green ass, but Zeus didn't listen to her he said something along the lines of "The word of Zeus! YOU'RE TERMS blah blah" He basically accepted hulks challenge to a fist fight. He DIDN'T use any goddamn magic after they started the fist fight. All of it was purely PHYSICAL.
@stasshole1984 Purely physical? That's why Zeus had lightning on his hands? Zeus gave himself every advantage. He magically lowered Hulk's strength, durability, and healing factor in the fight. The proof is in the comic. Hulk is injured by falling on a rock after the final attack and Hephaestus states that his strength and healing factor were compromised. I mean really? Hulk is coughing up blood in waves from a pierced lung but is fine in seconds after Skaar pierced every part of him?
@Corey1873 Yes purely physical, again to all you "Hulk Apoligest" so the fuck what if Zeus had lightning on his hands?!! I've never heard such a piss poor excuse about this fight, nowhere and I mean NOWHERE does it even suggest in the comic that Zeus was using "magic fist" to beat on Hulk. He's synonymous with lightning, it was just for fucking looks thats all fucking a.
He magically lowered hulks power bc Zeus beat the ever loving crap outta him PHYSICALLY.
@stasshole1984 Zeus lowered Hulk's power by physically hitting him a few times? That literally makes sense. There's no damage Zeus could have caused then that Hulk wouldn't have healed from in seconds. What's the most damage Zeus could have done without breaking skin? Bruises, internal bleeding, broken bones, and punctured organs from the bones. Compare that to what Skaar did to him. He punctured the skin, bones, and virtually every organ Hulk has simultaneously. Hulk healed in seconds.
@stasshole1984 Do you smell what I'm stepping in here? Skaar did more damage to Hulk in a single attack than Zeus did the entire fight. Yet after Skaar was done Hulk had healed in moments. When Zeus was done the Hulk was spewing blood everywhere. It's clear that Hulk's healing factor was not working at remotely the same level. Why? Because Zeus lowered it. Hulk is so weakened by the end that he's injured by falling on a rock. Do you seriously think two body shots tenderized Hulk that much?
Hulk can defeat Thor, any day of the year. Anyhow, even Superman would lose to Zeus but like the other guy said, there's no shame in losing to Zeus; after all he's the creator of all worlds , man etc
@martinez418 Thor has Hulk's number. He has killed Hulk on two occasions. In Thor 73, he killed Hulk and Thing without Mjolnir and he only had one arm and one eye. Also, Thor did much better against Zeus than Hulk did. Thor's battle with Zeus lasted for months; Hulk only last 30-60 seconds.
@staley1981 Bullshit!! Thor would never defeat HULK, that's just a fact. Hulk has defeated Herc and Thor in many other comics. WWH just proves HULK is the strongest there is. FACT!!
Now i would love to read this comic, HULK VS ZEUS.
@martinez418 LOL! You're in denial and your facts are wrong too. Odin Force Thor made short work of World War Hulk. What are these many other comics you're talking about? Are you relying on cartoons? Name the issue numbers. You can look up Hulk vs Zeus here on youtube, but you're not going to like how it ends.
@staley1981 Look it up; and see there are many comics out there that proves HULK has defeated Thor. I just don't feel like doing it now for you. No I'm not relying on the cartoons either.
I seen the Hulk vs Zeus clip vid here on you tube; but Hulk sure gave Zeus a run for his lighting bolt. There's no shame in losing to Zeus, after all he's the God that created life and all the galaxies in space.
@martinez418 well, you've answered my question that you can't name any issues. More of BannerIncrediblyStupid's videos? In one of those videos, that's no the real Thor. The real Thor was trapped in a different dimension. Notice that BannerIncredibleDouche fails to mention that Hulk had lots of help against Onslaught and in the World War Hulk story line.
@staley1981 That is the real Thor; quit being so bias, lol. So tell us in your view, what Thor was that? Thor lost buddy, you will have to accept the facts.
Hulk did not have any help but a small portion of the novel script. Come on dude, are you serious? Hulk took about every single character in Marvel all by himself including Thor. You have to admit you sure are a Hulk hater, stop being so bias against the green guy, Thor is cool also; but he just cant top the HULK.
@martinez418 I'm being biased because I actually read the comics instead of watching videos with selective scans? That makes no sense. You have too much faith in BannerIncredibleHulk. By the way, did you bother to watch the cartoon I sent you? I don't remember saying I hate Hulk anywhere. Can you point out where I said that? Who do you think amped Hulk for his battle with Onslaught? I've read many Thor and Hulk comics and I think my conclusions are reasonable, and I stand by them too.
@staley1981 I've answered your questions. I've sent you the comic books # were you can see and read for yourself that Hulk has defeated Thor many times. Hulk Rules!!
Have you answered yourself why would MARVEL create animated movies where Hulk defeats Thor? because HULK would win, TRUE. The MARVEL animations is just like any comic book by the same creator & business, but with less detail; that is all.
@staley1981 Check out comic book Hulk vol.2 #300 where hulk kicks Thor's ass so bad, that before killing him he gets teleported away by Dr Strange. There has been about 18 encounters between Hulk and Thor. Hulk wins. Hulk vol.2 #300 Thor vol #385
Comic hulk #2001<<Hulk beats Thor that nobody knows if he lived or died.
Hulk vol#1 red hulk Hulk beats Thor with his own hammer to the point of almost killing him; until savage Hulk stops red, and defeats him. Hulk wins
@martinez418 in Hulk 300, I don't remember Hulk even landing a punch on Thor. You haven't read Hulk Annual 2001, or else you would know that Thor got right back up and nearly drowned Hulk with rain. In Hulk: Let the Battle Begin, Hulk's only way to defeat Thor was to use his own hammer against him. In other words Hulk can't beat Thor through his own means. In Thor 385, Hulk runs away from Thor because he's affraid of Mjolnir. Hulk's famous line in Thor 385 was "Why can't Hulk defeat you?!"
@staley1981 You said Thor nearly drowned Hulk with rain; how's that? Hulk can breath under water. Hulk 2001; Hulk beats Thor to the point that no one knows if he lived or die; a little rain didn't hurt Hulk at all.
#385 Thor does not want to fight Hulk without Mjolnir proving Thor is a coward, that fore Hulk wins. Thor hold his own but longer the fight goes Thor is losing, that's when Mjolnir returns. WIMP!.
@martinez418 that's correct, Hulk nearly drowned. It happens right after Thor got up when Hulk jumped him. You'd know that if you actually read the comic.
In Thor 385, Thor throws away Mjolnir again and says "I will fell thee with bare hands alone". Hulk decides to take off because his anger has bottomed out. Speaking of wimps, I do recall that Hulk did take a helpless woman hostage in Thor 385 because he's afraid to face Thor with Mjolnir.
@staley1981 In the 80's and early 90's Hulk was portrait more as an ape like figure. Fans dislike the Hulk due to this factor, and his mental disability. Change has come upon Hulk now; he's way smarter than he was before and with greater abilities. It takes Thor his flying ability and Mjolnir, not to mention his God like powers from Odin to even dent the Hulk, sad!. The Hulk is sheer strength! that alone has writers thinking positive about the character given him better ratings, INCREDIBLE!.
@martinez418 I also forgot to answer your question about cartoons. Hulk has lost to Black Widow and Hawkeye, the Hulk Busters, Kang the Conquerer, Ultron, Loki, the Fantastic Four, Wolverine, and Iron Man in the cartoons. I wouldn't get carried away with citing cartoons because Hulk doesn't have a very good record.
@staley1981 Are you serious?; you must be joking to say such a bad thing like that. You've been watching a bias fake version of those cartoons. The cartoons listed and sold at Best buy by Marvel show Hulk defeated ALL the above characters you've mention. Hulk was call upon to defeat Ultron etc. Quit making up stories, not cool man! lol. No character has a good record period; but Hulk would spank Thor any day, being that he's just a freak accident. Thor cant defeat Hulk, & Marvel knows this.
@staley1981 You must have all of the ''AVENGERS Mightiest HEROES'' episodes don't you? only in the cartoon series it slightly happened; not in the animated movie where it shows Hulk wins. In the series they cant allow Hulk to defeat them so quickly due to the story line series continuing. In the animated movies; you can clearly see that no character had a chance against the Hulk.
Ultimate Avengers 1# 2# and the other when their kids and seek Hulk for help to kick Ultrons ass.
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Wolverine, "Wolverine and the X-Men" episode 7
Iron Man, "Iron Man the Animated Series" season 2, episode 11.
None of that is made up. You can go and fact check me if you like. Yes, Hulk has had an upgrade, but he's still no match for Thor. The facts are on my side.
@staley1981 it's obvious the writers won't allow such combat to take place now due to the fans on both sides of the characters. But Hulk has defeated Thor multiple times; Hulk has defeated other characters that Thor alone cant defeat, thus giving Hulk the upper hand.
Statistics indicate the Hulk would destroy Thor. Writers won't write it now, but they're clearly showing it in EVERY recent animated movies. Hope they make a NEW book of this match to see who will really win. HULK!! lol
@martinez418 Thor's defeated Hulk multiple times. Twice in What if, Thor 385 (by forfeit), Thor 489, Thor 73 volume 2, Earth Infinity War 5, Hulk Annual 2001 (second fight Thor knocked Hulk out with lightning) etc. The stats are the opposite; they favor Thor.
Ultron wasn't in either of the Ultimate Avengers movies. If you're going to dimiss Hulk's defeats in the cartoons, which are not slight in any way, then his cartoon wins don't count either. Otherwise, you've got a double standard.
@staley1981 Lol. Hulk defeated Ultron on the little Avengers animated movie. Hulk defeated Thor Caps Iron man, Giant man, wasp, etc on the Avengers animated movie. I would love to see Thor handle himself with all the Marvel characters on him and try to pull it off and be on top just like the Hulk did. Thor cant do it, Marvel know this. Like i said before; Avengers mightiest heroes series, they cant portrait Hulk to always kick their butts; due to it being a continuing series and a team. Hulk win
@martinez418 you're losing more credibility as this conversation goes on. Ultron wasn't in the Ulimate Avengers cartoon. That was Chituari, the Ultimate Skrulls. Hulk wasn't the only Marvel character that died in Thor 73: Dr. Strang, Thing, Wolverine, and many other characters died fighting Thor in that issue. Since you like statistics, here's one you'll enjoy. The new Thor movie has grossed $447,427,218 at the box office; the Hulk movie only made $263,427,551. Thor FTW.
@staley1981 it's called the ''NEXT AVENGERS'' animated movie. Look it up and you'll see Hulk destroys Ultron when either Caps or Thor or for that matter any of the Avengers could not.
Movie money wise, Thor was a hit; simple! due to the fact that there's never been a movie out there about Thor; Marvel fans had to see, even myself. But Hulk has more revenue. Thor was just a 1 hit wonder. Hulks has years and years in the business revenue, from Hit series to Hulk cartoons etc. Hulk would still win
@martinez418 Hulk had help with fighting Ultron in that movie. Thor and Captain America weren't around for that fight. Besides, Ultron made quick work of Hulk in Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes.
One hit wonder? Please. Thor is also critically acclaimed earning a certified fresh rating from Rotten Tomatoes. Your comparison by amalgamating Hulk's revenue over the years is invalid to Thor's performance at the box office. Thor's dominates Hulk at the box office. That's a fact.
@martinez418 the cool thing about Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes is that it's neutral. The writers can't favor Hulk like in the Hulk vs. cartoons. Everybody gets treated equally. Hulk doesn't get the silk glove treatment in that series. As I've stated before, Hulk has had some serious and reasonable defeats in that series as well.
Just to let you guys know this is not WWH it is that pathetic Banner-Hulk for some reason. Read Hulk #662 or 663. If it had been Banners OTHER than Zeus would be dead. Hurcules and even Thor are stronger than Zeus I think. This is so strange. Vultures man c'mon how lame!!!
@Warbound7 dude, at some point you must except that Hulk lost in a fair fight against Zeus. Zeus literally outclasses Hulk in terms of power and he (Zeus) didn't even fight anywhere close to his potential. There is no shame in losing to Zeus. Where does it say in Hulks 621 or 622 that it was Banner-Hulk? I have both of those issues and it doesn't mention that.
@staley1981 Why can't people get through their head that Zeus could take out the Hulk just by thinking about it? Zeus wanted to make him suffer, and he did just that. Zeus whipped the Avengers by himself. Among that group was Thor, Sub Mariner fresh out of the water, and the She Hulk.
@Originalman320 you make great points. I believe the answer to the Hulk fanatic fallout after fighting Zeus is extreme fanatism. One Hulk fan I was talking to said that Hulk was more powerful than Galactus (no joke). Zeus beats any version of Hulk hands down.
@staley1981 fair fight?zeus blitzed hulk with lightening that depowered him.and he was fighting zeus at olympus.kinda like fighting cyttorak in the crimson cosmos.seriously dude,check out the story again,zeus destroys hulk with a lightening bolt before they fight.at the end when he is chained to the rock,hulk is told that zeus weakened his strength and healing ability.
@LeBearExtrordinare who would have ever thought a single lightning bolt could bring down the Hulk? Yes this was a fair fight. Get over it, Hulk lost. There are no excuses. Remember when Hera said to Hulk "Zeus could vaporize you with a thought." Zeus didn't even fight anywhere near his potential and still made quick work of Hulk. He made Hulk suffer because he could.
@LeBearExtrordinare you're nobody tell anyone how to read comics, or comments. A fanboy is somebody who spins and makes all the excuses in world for their favorite character's shortcomings. That pejorative describes you. Is that direct enough?
@staley1981 wellllllllll when you type a reply comment to somebody,its usually a great idea to hit the "reply" button beside the comment,dumbass.also i say read comics because you clearly missed important points regarding the above fight.again how is it a fair fight when one guy clearly depowers the other before a punch is thrown.it is as plain as day in the comic.LeBearExtrordinare thats who i am,in case you missed it,douchebag XD
@LeBearExtrordinare sounds like I struck a nerve. I didn't miss any important points; you're just full of spin and excuses, and lies. I'm not so sure what makes you so upset that Hulk lost to Zeus, and I don't care either. Somehow Zeus using his powers against Hulk is unfair? That's some really sound logic you've got going. You do the definition of fanboy lots of justice.
@staley1981 hahaha delusional much???now please explain why i would be upset about a fictional character getting beat up???especially after you have convinced yourself that i actually care.
no,actually its funny how you think it was a fair fight.id say a straight up fist fight is fair,would you???zeus did kinda use magic on hulk,did he not???hulks not known for his magic abilities,oh wait a sec........hulk does not have any magic abilities.my point still stands,jackass XD
@LeBearExtrordinare oh, so you do care afterall. Thanks for proving my point. You've got no point, only lame excuses. Does Wolverine cheat when he uses his claws and healing factor? No. Does Spider-man cheat when uses his webbing? No. Does Silver Surfer cheat when he uses his board? No. Yet somehow you maintain that Zeus is cheating when he uses only a fraction of his power on Hulk. You've got a double standard. Zeus is synonymous with lightning.
@staley1981 There's no use in arguing with this guy, he's on almost every Hulk video trying to sell his BS that Hulk is omnipotent or some shit.
Yeah I would like to know myself how Zeus using his lightning is considered cheating? Thats just a weak, lame piss poor excuse, notice that these fanboys don't cry foul when Hulk beats another villian/hero, oooohhhh but when one such as Zeus beats him, its considered "cheating" caused he used his powers? 0_0
@stasshole1984 hey dude, you're right. Extaordinarybearcrap is full of a lot wind. Hulks 621 and 622 are good examples of why Hulk fanatics have a bad reputation. He exemplifies it. In case you're wondering, I didn't start this conversation either. What can I say? I attract stupidity.
@staley1981 Oh I know, yeah as soon as you point out to these Hulk fanatics that their favorite character is not all powerful the stupidity flies haha.
@staley1981you know quite well word for word what it said.and it said "you have been HIT by zeus".now where exactly do YOU see the word punch or punched???hahahaha i love how you used "sucker punch" as some kind of argument winner, maybe you need a sucker punch to the back of the head to sort out your selective memory.
again it clearly shows zeus blitzing hulk with his lightening before a punch was thrown,so its up to you to prove to me,that the first bolt did not depower hulk.
@LeBearExtrordinare you're still typifying the fanboy. It doesn't say that the lightning bolt depowered Hulk. Hephaestus doesn't say that either in the aftermath. You made that too easy. You're just passing off speculation as facts--very dishonest. Speaking of selective memory, you said to Stasshole1984 that I started this conversation (your diabtribe). That's was you.
@staley1981incorrect, i stated to stasshole that you started the argument,when i asked you a straight forward question.to which you did NOT directly reply you even deleted some comments.and actually got aggresive as a result of my questioning your opinion,thats what REALLY happened.now i would like you to point out to me,when exactly does zeus depower hulk.and it actually does say "you have been hit by zeus" in those words,so why are you arguing that?
@LeBearExtrordinare what argument with you did I start? You're opening comment towards me was rude and snarky. You hurled around slurs towards me too--and since. So I replied in kind; you had it coming. I stand by what I say because I'm not speculating, like you do. Dance around it all you like. You don't have to like the result of Hulks 622, but you have to deal with it. Try not to be lowclass about either.
@staley1981 "fair fight?zeus blitzed hulk with lightening that depowered him.and he was fighting zeus at olympus.kinda like fighting cyttorak in the crimson cosmos.seriously dude,check out the story again,zeus destroys hulk with a lightening bolt before they fight.at the end when he is chained to the rock,hulk is told that zeus weakened his strength and healing ability ".thats my original comment to you,where am i rude or snarky in that comment,you prick.
@staley1981 so lets start that again,i asked you a simple thing,and it was YOU who turned into a rabid troll and deleted some of your replies.now you make out like i am the protaganist???im just meeting you at your level.
@staley1981 Word of advise buddy?you should read my comments too,LOL. you see,thats how much of a dickhead you are.you cant even acknowledge that you where in the wrong.even if i had of continued to be nice about things,you would have still come across as a prick.so your "little miss innocent" act is kinda pathetic at this point in time.carry on trolling,or fuck off back under your bridge,your choice XD
@LeBearExtrordinare when were you ever nice? I don't read you're sophomoric comments? I wonder where I get the wherewithal to reply. You continue to act lowclass, and you haven't proven me wrong on anything. You're also no one to be giving me advice, in any capacity.
@staley1981correction,you dont read my comments properly at all.and i find it hilarious that i would have an american calling me low class?hypocritical almost.especially from one such as yourself who clearly suffers from ignorance and delusion and goes as far as making things up to cloud the fact your a prick.so anyway why did you degenerate into a 5 year old when i asked you why you thought the above subject was a fair fight?if you have a problem with how i speak to you?blame only yourself ;)
@LeBearExtrordinare now you're scapegoating me for your diatribe. Low class is just scatching the surface with you. A 5 year old? Okay. You've been outpunctuated, outclassed, outarticulated, and outdebated by a 5 year old. That should make you feel better. I stand by what I said with Zeus and Hulk. I'm not sure what nationality has to do with anything.
@staley1981scapegoating?WOW.ignorant and delussional to the bitter end,arent you pettle?LOL,wishful thinking on your part regarding outsmarting me,i dont need to delete my comments,unlike you,nor am i afraid to directly address somebody on a subject.Nationality would play a key part in this exchange.you see every time i receive a comment that goes off point,10 times out of 10 the commentor ALWAYS comes from the united states of arrogance......whoops,i meant america XD
@LeBearExtrordinare my nationality is the reason why you're so simple minded. Go figure. Any dignity you had is gone. The author of Hulks 622 is American. Marvel comics is also based and established in the United States. Maybe that's why you're so apoplectic.
@staley1981 okay now i know im dealing with more than 1 person using the one account,whats the deal?your mom or dad take over from you at a certain time?hey other person,using the staley1981 account,go bite me,you argumentative asshole :)
@staley1981 as my final parting shot,isnt it funny that an american has trouble reading literature conceived from his home country and WRITTEN mostly for children,ROFL.the irony of it all XD
@LeBearExtrordinare it's actually funny that a simpleton rips on a country while enjoying the comics that are written in that country (while acting like a deranged fanboy). It doesn't get more contradictory than that; there's no bigger double standard. That's irony.
@staley1981 oh and when i say depower,you must think im putting hulk at banner level strength,ROFL.no just enough strength/durability to take a beating from zeus.
@staley1981 Not to mention that after Zeus hit him with lightning, Hulk was still conscience, THEN they started the fist fight, and Zeus still kicked his ass. And yeah, Hulk may have well wanted to just sacrifice himself or whatever bullshit, but he was still trying to fight back at Zeus to no avail. And there is nothing that suggest that Hulk was holding back in the first place, bc Hulk #634 or whatever issue does not say he held back against Zeus.
@stasshole1984 as for you?i remember you,i handed you your ass on another video didnt i XD who the fuck said hulk was holding back?not me,dipshit.who ever said hulk was omnipotent?certainly not me.and who is on every hulk video on youtube?id bet you visit more hulk vids with your anti-hulk B/S than i ever could.one more thing?go back to my original comment to the other douchebag,it was actually HIM who started the argument,i just finished it in record time,come get some if you have balls,pussy.
@LeBearExtrordinare Handed me my ass according to whom? You? Ha don't make me laugh, and could just turn around and say I handed you're ass just like staley is doing in this vid.
And bullshit, You're on just about every Hulk vs. video on youtube spouting off you're BS that Hulk can't be beaten by almost damn near anyone. I'm not "anti hulk" btw, I like the Hulk, I just don't think he's all powerful like you do. Your so delusional as to think Hulk can beat a skyfather....cont
@stasshole1984 really?care to explain how i got my ass handed to me by that other guy?because as far as i can see,its him who is deleting his comments to me and afraid to reply directly.you,oh yeah i definitely handed you your monkey ass on a plate,let me think back,it was either the juggernaut debate or the thor debate,the only 2 hulk videos you WILL find my comments on.again why make shit up,where exactly did i say hulk was all powerful,you dolt,i think your the delusional mess tbh.
@LeBearExtrordinare You know what? Hows this, how about we put aside all the insults and put downs against one another and just actually debate this topic. For the record I didn't say YOU said Hulk was all powerful, and if I did then i'm sorry, though I meant to say most diehard Hulk fans tend to think he's all powerful using the whole "unlimited strength excuse". So, trying to be civil here, what is the argument you're trying to make with Hulk vs Zeus?
@stasshole1984 did you finally realise? that was what i was trying to do from the very beginning.i never said hulk should have won that fight,all i was asking is why you thought it was a fair fight,thats all.
@LeBearExtrordinare Well like I said before, the reason I think it was a fair fight was bc that First lightning bolt didn't drain Hulk of his power, and right after he got up (which is impressive I admit) he was fine and ready to fist fight. So after the first bolt, both were still in fighting shape and officially started to fight fist to fist afterwards. After which Zeus beat him on Hulks terms physically, and in so doing poured salt on the wound by using a second bolt to torture him.
@LeBearExtrordinare Well I retract my statement about Zeus using a second lightning bolt, I thought he hit Hulk again with a second one but he didn't. But still Hulk got back up on the first bolt, and challenged Zeus to a fist fight, to which Zeus obliged him. So I don't see how that is unfair, Hulk hit Zeus one time and Zeus hit him six. Hephaestus says "You've been hit by Zeus" doesn't mention anything about the bolt draining Hulk's healing factor.
@stasshole1984 if i may suggest,try get your hands on a book called "the official handbook of marvel universe,vol1"there are some rather interesting things regarding zeus and olympus.Hephaestus did tell hulk that zeus had depowered him,but left him just enough strength and durability,to endure his fate over and over again,however zeus did quip that hulk had his punishment coming for a long time,which suggests zeus planned hulks punishment for some time before their last fight,zeus is clever :)
@LeBearExtrordinare Yeah, I agree Hephaestus did say that to Hulk but he didn't specify WHAT attack or attacks that depowered him. I can only conclude that since Hulk was physically capable of challenging Zeus to a fist fight and Zeus obliging to his challenge that this was a fair fight.
@stasshole1984 again the fact zeus blitzed him with the same lightening that destroyed the titans,leaves the whole fight open to debate.to say its fair is a bit much,especially after what hephaestus says,also hephaestus is rather shocked to find hulk is alive after that lightening attack,conclusion.....zeus is a fucking coward,hulk hit the nail on the head.after reading IH 634 and 635 hopefully these guys go at it again,my money is going on hulk to down that diva god once and for all.
@stasshole1984 does he need to be specific???the fact is zeus depowered him,he did not depower him AFTER the fight.that much is certain.its plain as day in the comic,zeus is NOT having a straight up fist fight with hulk.hes hitting him with magically imbued strikes.you CANT say zeus is only using physical strength alone,when clearly he is not.again look at his fists.that blind twat staley must be reading a braille edition because he wont acknowledge all i pointed out.staley hates being wrong.
@LeBearExtrordinare Well I think saying Hulk fighting and beating a Skyfather is a little much. But thats just my opinion. And and there is nothing in the comic to suggest that Zeus used magically imbued strikes just bc there is lightning around his fist. I mean he is synonymous with lightning after all. And why would Zeus accept Hulks challenge and then use magic? Sorry but I disagree, all I see is a fist fight nothing more.
@stasshole1984 hey dude, you're right; I pointed out the same thing about Zeus being synonymous with lightning. However, little bear's ego and hyperpartisan thinking crush his own reasoning. I know that's blatant, but it's true. I also asked the vituperative comic critic to point out where it said word-for-word that Zeus drained Hulk's strength with magic or lightning. He couldn't, so he filibustered instead.
@staley1981 hahahaha look at you crying to stasshole,son are you tried to get me to make up words that were not printed in the comic?i quoted what it said word for word.and as a matter of fact i DID answer your question read it again,dumbass.i asked you to look at the artwork and to tell me if YOU can see lightening imbued in zeus fists when he hits hulk,its there plain as day,and you still argue that fact???you really do get dumber with each reply XD
@staley1981 you know,if hulk had of beating zeus,i bet stale would have been one of the first people to hit youtube moaning about how overpowered hulk has become and how much he hates the character.
2 things i want him to acknowledge.1)zeus hit hulk with magic before they fight.2)zeus is using lightening in his punches.its that simple.if he denies this,hes one dumb S.O.B,if he fails to answer.it just proves that he is a douchebag.my only question? is how he thinks it was a fair fight,that it.
@LeBearExtrordinare stooping lower and lower in the gutter. Maybe you won't get a Hulk toy for "Christmas". What? I can't give stasshole my input too? I'm not going to let some bigot like you censor me. I've already answered your "fair fight' question. Instead of offering substanence, you only offered speculation. You were also dismissive and just filibustered.
@staley1981 ROFL i told you already,i want to shove quarter pounders up your mommas anus as a christmas present.maybe ill DP her with some hulk toys too bet she would like that,the dirty mare LOL. i really love when you americans start hiding behind these little pseudo-intellectual caricatures you make for yourselves.bet my life is far more exciting than your obscure little existence XD
oh and to quote oscar wilde if i may "we are all in the gutter,but some of us are looking at the stars".
@staley1981 Yeah I mean all Hephaestus said was "You've been hit by Zeus" "You're strength won't return for a LONG time", but it doesn't specify what attack did drain Hulk's strength. But my point is that the lightning attack did NOT drain Hulk as he was perfectly capable of fighting fist to fist with Zeus afterwards, its only after the fist fight that Hephaestus mentions the strength draining which implies to me that Zeus drained Hulks strength physically. cont....
@stasshole1984 you cant really argue that it does not specify which attack depowered hulk,thats silly.the fact is it states zeus did hit hulk,so we know it happened either before the fight or during the fight,certainly NOT after the fight.you cant deny that.a simple yes would suffice regarding zeus amped punches,so again,is there lightening coming from his hands when he hits hulk?yes or no?you have already acknowledged that zeus DID strike hulk down before the fight.
@LeBearExtrordinare cont...but as I have already argued, it was Zeus's own physical strength and power that depowered Hulk and not his lightning or supposed amped fist. And again I argue, what is the big deal if Zeus DID use his powers? I'm sorry, but like I said before, Both character's were both in perfectly fighting shape before the fist fight, Hulk lost, Zeus won who cares? Why would Zeus use "magic" during the fight after he agreed to fight Hulk on his terms?
@staley1981 cont.... But my BIGGER point is so what? So what if Zeus attacks did drain Hulk? Since when does using your powers count as cheating or not being fair? And I'm not saying Zeus used "magic amplified" fist to drain Hulk, I'm saying Zeus's strength and power alone is what did Hulk in. Why would Zeus need to amp himself up when he already accepted Hulk's challenge on his terms? Not to mention since Zeus could destroy Hulk with a thought.
@staley1981 And to simply put, Zeus is just more powerful, so how is this even a fight to begin with? Not disrespecting the hulk by any means but come on, thats like spiderman challenging hulk to a fist fight but not allowing his rage/healing factor abilities. Hulk would still beat the shit out of him lol, hope my analogy made sense. And again, I like the Hulk, I do, but I will not make him out to be more than what he is, saying he can beat a skyfather is way to much credit.
@stasshole1984 dude, you've got nothing to apologize for. You make a very strong, comprehensive, and level-headed case about Zeus's victory over Hulk. It's much more corherent than the mentally impotent midget (BareBrain) that's been running his head off for the last week. You're also very correct in saying that the Hulk defeating a skyfather is an unrealistic expectation. However, lesser minds are not so rational, if you know what I mean.
what is the name of the one eye guy??
collectabletoyz305 2 days ago
for all thor fans out there normal hulk has been able t lift mjolnir and beat thor down with it and was able to kick the crap out of thor. thor was bleeding and had bruises everywhere but hulk had no scratches on him. and hulk has singlehandedly beaten down thanos with his bear hands and rune thor killed a fake hulk it wasnt the real hulk and marvel said that herc is equal and is able to beat thor in a stright up fight while hulk has wrecked herc on more than one occasion
maximums29 1 month ago
Rune Thor is practically unstoppable
Khalis33 2 months ago
Hulk is more durable and invulernable than thor. But he isn't stronger. If we're talking blood lusted, warrior madness classic thor, he would own wwh in any way or form
atomichead777 3 months ago
Who cares who the strongest is, this is all a fairy tale world hahaha. The hulk held up a 150 billion ton mountain. That seem's pretty impressive to me, I don't know though maybe Thor has Held up 200 billion pounds but who cares, they are both unimaginably strong in a fair tale world.
boomshuka 3 months ago
poo hulk, man... that was regrettable...
BruceOdinson 3 months ago
Hulk can break an asteroid twice the size of earth? no, that doesn't prove his strength, it proves his durability. he was blasted from earth and hit the asteroid, not punch it. thor could've whacked the asteroid without any boost. Thor is on supermans strength level. Sentry defeated (or stalemated) wwh. Face it people, hulk isn't supposed to be the strongest there is. he was way too exagerrated over these years. even freaking spiderman low blowed hulk off balance.
atomichead777 3 months ago 2
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atomichead777 3 months ago 3
@atomichead777 You know Hulk defeated Thor more than one time Don't you?
HeadbangerXbox360 3 months ago
@HeadbangerXbox360
u do realize thor beat hulk more than hulk has beaten him
atomichead777 3 months ago
@atomichead777 i like hulk but thors a god.
savage2311 3 months ago
@atomichead777 Last time I checked Thor couldn't beat Hercules without his hammer. In Fear Itself, Thor admitted he could never beat the Hulk. In Hulk #300 Thor said this "any weapon in the hand of the Hulk would kill me". Thor got the crap beat out of him by Sentry, and yes while Thor killed Sentry, Sentry let him. His powers calm the Hulk down, and Hulk still had enough power to knock him out. Thor could only dent Onslaughts armor. Hulk beat Onslaught with a punch.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 3 months ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2
thats because jean grey turned off banner, which enhanced hulks strength to break onslaughts armor, duh. also, in most of the classic fights, thor usually either beat hulk or didn't even try and ended up getting beat. Hulk was blasted from earth when he his the asteroid, and it was the momentum and his body mass that destroyed it, he didn't jump himself. Hercs is around thors might, even more per say. and funny thing is, when hercs was fighting hulk, he was holding back.
atomichead777 3 months ago
@atomichead777 Hulk destroyed an astroid 2x size of Earth. A push has more more force than a punch. I'm sure hulk could push or pull something 3x the size of Earth. Hulk scared Thanos in his weakest incarnation Professor Hulk. WWHulk is much stronger than that hulk so I'm sure as WWHulk, Hulk could beat Thanos. Hulks not even a God yet he is pretty much immortal and stronger than Thor and Hercules, and even scared Zeus. Hulk is stronger than Thor.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 3 months ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2
hulk wasn't pushed, he was SHOT FROM earth and HIT the asteroid which caused a shockwave, destroying it. u can't assume hulks stronger than thor just because thor was caught off balance and hulk got free shots, it doesn't prove anything. the only way to prove it is if the two had an arm wrestling match. but anyways, thanos may fear the hulk, but he can stil beat him. he still has access to the IG and HOU. Thor is stronger than hulk, but hulk is more DURABLE than thor. got it?
atomichead777 3 months ago
@atomichead777 Nope I don't got it and neither do you. Thor doesn't try? Wayyyyy wrong. He tried to kill him in Fear Its Self and in Hulk #300. When it said to the side "Thor hit Hulk with full strength". Hulk was going to kill Thor, which is why Dr. Strange sent him to another deminsion. Also Jean Grey didn't do anything special. She didn't enhance his strength just gave him access to more of it in a shorter amount of time. She didn't amp him up, just skipped all the....
BIGDADDYDUKE2 3 months ago
@atomichead777 "madder Hulk gets" part. Hulk is stronger than Thor, Thor isn't stronger than Hulk. I'm not saying Thor can't beat Hulk in a fight. Because he has, trying. Hulk at his best without being amped, and Thor at his best without being amped, Hulk wins. Thor admitted it. Read Fear Its Self 6 or 5. You can find it on youtube. Thor also got beat by Red Hulk, who was beaten up by Hulk, in which Rulk said this "I've beaten Thor". He said that because he thought that was...
BIGDADDYDUKE2 3 months ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 A feat great enough which would also mean he could beat Hulk. He was obviously wrong.... way wrong. And that wasn't even Hulk at his best.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 3 months ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2
i said jean grey shut off banner, which meant that hulk was able to double his usual strength since his mind isn't limited to his innerself. Hulks only stronger than thor if he surpasses his strength. but hold on a sec. this argument is getting nowhere since we're using different versions. I'm using classic thor, and ur using a current hulk. that can vary extremely when it comes to strength. current thor is not as strong as current hulk, but what about classic thor?
atomichead777 3 months ago
@atomichead777 That is true when comparing both to themselves. In the past Hulk didn't get bigger and stronger when mad. And he didn't become Hulk out of anger. But yes even classic Hulk is stronger than classic Thor. I know this for 100 percent fact. In the 80's Marvel put this power grid thing in one of their comics, Hulk was number one, Thing was number two, and Thor was tied in third with Namor. You're right though they are different now, I still say Hulk is stronger...
BIGDADDYDUKE2 3 months ago
@atomichead777 Don't get me wrong though, Thor has beaten Hulk. And yes amped up to their best I think Thor would win. I don't think anyone has anything on Odin force Thor. Maybe Hulk at the best he could possibly be. But Thor would still have an advantage because hes not limited to just hand combat where the Hulk is. By the way I don't pick Hulk because I like him alot. Hes my favorite along with Thor and Wolverine. But based off of comics and feats I'd have to say Hulk.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 3 months ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2
i guess i only thought thor was stronger because stan lee said so. but then again, time has changed, and there's been countless of writers that differed from that. here's the way i see it. hulks only stronger than thor if his strength level passes thors strength level. we can both agree on that, right?
atomichead777 3 months ago
@atomichead777 Stan Lee didn't say it flat out. He only said if you want to make them the strongest you make them a god. But Thor's not the only god, and if being immortal makes you a god, Hulk can be considered a god. But yeah I agree, I think Marvel itself said that when Bruce becomes Hulk he starts off only being able to lift to 70 tons where Thor lifts 100 tons at all times.
BIGDADDYDUKE2 3 months ago
@BIGDADDYDUKE2 no a marvel handbook states that hulk is 110 tons his base strength and thor is 95 with the belt of strentgh but its changed mow but back then thats what it was and when u think of thor bieng askyfather look at wbh he is able to rip apart the atoms of anybody and just wwh was able to pull back tectinc plates while bieng burned alive and ia able to break the world in 3 steps. WHY DO U THINK THEY CALL HIM WORLDBREAKER AND THE STRONGEST THERE IS
maximums29 1 month ago
i'm still watching the vid so if hulk wins im gonna kill you
Awesomeairon9 4 months ago
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another thing people don't realize is that hulk was hit by power cosmic and even had been drain before. but he always came back. one or two hits by zeus wouldn't do much. the fight with hurcules he won in that comic. the what if comic shown in this was a tied.but hulk still kept up with thor. if you don't believe me then read the comics. it is there don't watch a video that bashes a charactor and agree with it when u don't know the whole story.
codenamecrimsonwind 4 months ago
the fight with zeus is one where the hulk had held back. even then when they fought . Hulk did not go to zeus to fight he went there to help his friends. if he was there to fight then he would have won.many of you would say that i'm a fanboy. but think of this. if thor beat zeus in a fight and hulk had beat Thor in many fights then should he not beat able to beat zeus as well. it's not being a fanboy . it's called logic.
codenamecrimsonwind 4 months ago
Zeus rivals Odin (another Earth Godhead with might enough to threaten a galaxy) in terms of sheer power. Against one who can use mind-numbing amounts of mystical and cosmic energies and bring to bear millennia of fighting experience, I just can't see Hulk beating the Father God of the Western World without being empowered by another such or greater being.
GodConsciousness 5 months ago 3
Of course, had it been Kratos instead the hulk we all know how these fights would have turned out.. Mmmm, Kratos ripping Thors head clean off; I'd pay good money to see that! Blondie tosser...
S20Mike 5 months ago
I'm pretty sure Hulk stomped Herc in that fight. That was Hulk vs Herc unleashed wasn't it? The Thor fight was a what if that ended in a tie.
Corey1873 5 months ago
The puwnage hulk receives here is sort of sweet,for all the people who are not Hulk fanboys ;)
KurtAngle89 5 months ago
the hulk never wanted to fight he just wanted to make a point to zeus.. the hulk was not angry at all there's no doubt that zeus would win but i think would be a much closer fight if the hulk has a reason to fight zeus.
Theomegabass 5 months ago
Yes, Zeus has lightning from his hands, but if you read my previous comments to Staley you would know that doesn't mean anything to me. Like I said before Zeus is synonymous with lightning, the lightning around his fist are more for show nothing more. There is nothing in the comic that even remotely suggest that Zeus amped himself up for the fight. Especially after he accepted Hulks challenge. And yes Zeus very will did depower Hulk at some point AFTER the fist fight...cont
stasshole1984 5 months ago
@stasshole1984 you were right about this guy when you commented last week on this video. I've pretty much said the same thing you've said to him (more or less), except I was unapologetic about it--hence, his little tirade. Like I've said, you've got nothing to apologize for. You make a great case as of why Hulk lost to Zeus in a fair fight. He is a condesceding, narcissistic, egotistical, appoplectic, foaming at the mouth fanboy that doesn't want to except the outcomes of Hulks 621 and 622.
staley1981 5 months ago
@staley1981 shew...wow. Yeah, I just thought that if I came at this civilly and with no insults or put downs that I might get through to him that this was a fair fight but I guess I failed lol. In the end he just wanted to believe what he wanted to believed. Saying the fight wasn't fair bc Zeus used "magic fist" is just ridiculous, as the comic mentions NOTHING of the sort, he was definitely trying to find any crumb he could to justify Hulk's defeat.
stasshole1984 5 months ago
@stasshole1984 thank you, finally someone speaks with sense. hulk can not beat zeus. no matter how strong he becomes. if their is 1 thing i know about zeus after years of keeping up with marvel is that zeus can also raise his strength to unlimited levels & he does not have to get angry to do so. hulk is just not stronger then zeus except it, just like i had to except the physically thor is not stronger then the hulk......physically.
ajanihodge 5 months ago
@ajanihodge Your 'exceptance' sounds more like brainwashing -- and bad grammar. Hulk has yet to prove he is stronger than Thor. There is no canon proof he is. There is, however, proof Thor is stronger than Hulk. Defenders #10 proves this.
Dynamo001 4 months ago
@Dynamo001 hey i personally think thor is stronger but come on, seriously, marvel claims thor to be physically stronger then hulk but when they show non comic book readers fights between hulk & thor it is the hulk that always dominates thor, its marvels bad writing & lack of order when it comes to their characters, if thor is physically stronger then hulk thor should win every battle weather canon or not....do you not agree, but instead thor loses to hulk at times....
ajanihodge 4 months ago
@ajanihodge In non-canon stories, anything goes. There are a lot of writers that are fans of Hulk, but know Stan Lee declared Thor to be stronger and created the non-canon approach to have Hulk defeat Thor. In all of their canon fights, Thor has never lost to Hulk and never been KO'd. Technically, he would kill Hulk in a real fight. In Hulk #440, Thor was going into berserker rage and there STILL was a draw. There is always some kind of distraction or plot twist or Thor playing nice.
Dynamo001 4 months ago
@Dynamo001 i agree with you on that. my only problem is that i cant stand how marvel has hulk dominating thor in the cartoons & animations, i know they are not base on the real story of the characters but to people that do not read the comics it very hard to say that thor can over power the hulk, but your right about thor being much stronger!
ajanihodge 4 months ago
@ajanihodge Well you have to remember that the catroons are aimed at a younger audience, where alot of the Hulk fans are. So they will favor the childrens favorit over Thor. I wouldnt worry too much about it, they are basicly just childrens what if´s.
animemron 4 months ago
@animemron i totally agree with you! hulk fans seen to be very silly when it comes to hulk versus.......im mean i like the hulk but that dosnt mean that he can beat everyone he goes up against.
ajanihodge 4 months ago 3
@ajanihodge yes we know that duhhh but ok zues the guy how made this video didnt even show why he lost... hulk lost cuz he didnt wonna fight him he was trying t save his ppl and u can look it up hulk bet hurcules (just go to hulk vs hurcules if u dont blive me) and come on really hulk always bet thor with one attack on the avingers.... u can look that up to... but like i said i know he cant bet everyone
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ajanihodge 4 months ago
@staley1981 You know this wasn't even a discussion before planet hulk and wwh came out, sure there were rabid Hulk fanyboys out there but even most of whom I encountered back then would accept that any Skyfather was leaps and bounds more powerful than the Hulk. Even though I like both books, its these books imo that have lighted the hulk fanboy fire to unprecedented levels. I mean I've gotten into an argument with that Harbox guy over GALACTUS vs Hulk! This guy believes that Hulk could win0_0
stasshole1984 5 months ago
@stasshole1984 Add me to the list of people who think Galactus would lose to Hulk!!!!!!!
MrBuddhakhan 5 months ago
@MrBuddhakhan Sure. I'll add you to the list of dumbshit, rabid, irrational, hulk fanboyism.
stasshole1984 5 months ago 6
@stasshole1984 Dude it's a natural fact that hulk is the strongest there is!!!!
MrBuddhakhan 5 months ago
@MrBuddhakhan Dude the only fact here is that you're a complete jackass!!!
stasshole1984 5 months ago
@stasshole1984 No no no no everyone knows Hulk is the strongest!!! He says it all the time NEWB!
MrBuddhakhan 5 months ago
@MrBuddhakhan And I know you must be a poser, so I'm done talking with you...dipshit.
stasshole1984 4 months ago
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@stasshole1984 You are a troll who needs to stay off of youtube and live far far away from society!!!!!!
MrBuddhakhan 4 months ago
@staley1981 As far as LeBear goes, he's what I would classify as a "Hulk Apologist" lol. He accepts that Hulk lost, but he can't just leave it at that, he has to make excuses as to WHY he lost and if this situation was different then there MIGHT have been a different outcome blah blah. Hence the whole "Zeus depowered him", and "magic fist" excuses come into play. But its all BS that I already refuted so I'll just leave it at that.
stasshole1984 5 months ago
@stasshole1984 I heard about that guy saying Hulk could beat Galactus. You're right about Planet Hulk and World War Hulk too. I'd like to throw in the Hulk vs. cartoons (which think was the icing on the cake). Hulk fanatics always cite those cartoons. I swear those three things created Hulk dolts out of thin air. By the way, you didn't fail at getting your point across, the other guy just failed to accept logical nonpartisan thinking.
staley1981 5 months ago
@stasshole1984 well im not saying hulk can beat zeus but lets look at some facts about that fight. 1hulk never intended to fight zeus he only went there to make a point to zeus. before the fight zeus said he would not use his magic after one punch from the hulk zeus immediately changed his mind, now one could argue zeus is a liar or that punch hurt.2. when hulk was chained the dude said you can break these chains hulk said make me mad enough and i can.so he was not mad. not a bad lost for hulk
therealistone2003 5 months ago
@therealistone2003 "After one punch Zeus immediately changed his mind" Thats BS, what did he do that you think made him change his mind?
After Hulk punched him and he got back up it was HERA that told him to fry his green ass, but Zeus didn't listen to her he said something along the lines of "The word of Zeus! YOU'RE TERMS blah blah" He basically accepted hulks challenge to a fist fight. He DIDN'T use any goddamn magic after they started the fist fight. All of it was purely PHYSICAL.
stasshole1984 5 months ago
@therealistone2003 "After one punch Zeus immediately changed his mind" Thats BS, what did he do that you think made him change his mind?
After Hulk punched him and he got back up it was HERA that told him to fry his green ass, but Zeus didn't listen to her he said something along the lines of "The word of Zeus! YOU'RE TERMS blah blah" He basically accepted hulks challenge to a fist fight. He DIDN'T use any goddamn magic after they started the fist fight. All of it was purely PHYSICAL.
stasshole1984 5 months ago
@stasshole1984 Purely physical? That's why Zeus had lightning on his hands? Zeus gave himself every advantage. He magically lowered Hulk's strength, durability, and healing factor in the fight. The proof is in the comic. Hulk is injured by falling on a rock after the final attack and Hephaestus states that his strength and healing factor were compromised. I mean really? Hulk is coughing up blood in waves from a pierced lung but is fine in seconds after Skaar pierced every part of him?
Corey1873 5 months ago
@Corey1873 Yes purely physical, again to all you "Hulk Apoligest" so the fuck what if Zeus had lightning on his hands?!! I've never heard such a piss poor excuse about this fight, nowhere and I mean NOWHERE does it even suggest in the comic that Zeus was using "magic fist" to beat on Hulk. He's synonymous with lightning, it was just for fucking looks thats all fucking a.
He magically lowered hulks power bc Zeus beat the ever loving crap outta him PHYSICALLY.
stasshole1984 5 months ago
Oh and I mean Zeus lowered hulk's power PHYSICALLY too not "magically".
stasshole1984 5 months ago
@stasshole1984 Zeus lowered Hulk's power by physically hitting him a few times? That literally makes sense. There's no damage Zeus could have caused then that Hulk wouldn't have healed from in seconds. What's the most damage Zeus could have done without breaking skin? Bruises, internal bleeding, broken bones, and punctured organs from the bones. Compare that to what Skaar did to him. He punctured the skin, bones, and virtually every organ Hulk has simultaneously. Hulk healed in seconds.
Corey1873 5 months ago
@stasshole1984 Do you smell what I'm stepping in here? Skaar did more damage to Hulk in a single attack than Zeus did the entire fight. Yet after Skaar was done Hulk had healed in moments. When Zeus was done the Hulk was spewing blood everywhere. It's clear that Hulk's healing factor was not working at remotely the same level. Why? Because Zeus lowered it. Hulk is so weakened by the end that he's injured by falling on a rock. Do you seriously think two body shots tenderized Hulk that much?
Corey1873 5 months ago
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hulk is the strongest there is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and zeus is gay with MrHulksmashers dad. hahahaha
JuliasFalls 7 months ago
@JuliasFalls go fuck urself you pedo cunt
HardyLeaf123 6 months ago
Hulk can defeat Thor, any day of the year. Anyhow, even Superman would lose to Zeus but like the other guy said, there's no shame in losing to Zeus; after all he's the creator of all worlds , man etc
Hulk is one bad ass SOB!!
martinez418 7 months ago
@martinez418 Thor has Hulk's number. He has killed Hulk on two occasions. In Thor 73, he killed Hulk and Thing without Mjolnir and he only had one arm and one eye. Also, Thor did much better against Zeus than Hulk did. Thor's battle with Zeus lasted for months; Hulk only last 30-60 seconds.
staley1981 7 months ago
@staley1981 Bullshit!! Thor would never defeat HULK, that's just a fact. Hulk has defeated Herc and Thor in many other comics. WWH just proves HULK is the strongest there is. FACT!!
Now i would love to read this comic, HULK VS ZEUS.
martinez418 7 months ago
@martinez418 LOL! You're in denial and your facts are wrong too. Odin Force Thor made short work of World War Hulk. What are these many other comics you're talking about? Are you relying on cartoons? Name the issue numbers. You can look up Hulk vs Zeus here on youtube, but you're not going to like how it ends.
staley1981 7 months ago
@staley1981 Look it up; and see there are many comics out there that proves HULK has defeated Thor. I just don't feel like doing it now for you. No I'm not relying on the cartoons either.
I seen the Hulk vs Zeus clip vid here on you tube; but Hulk sure gave Zeus a run for his lighting bolt. There's no shame in losing to Zeus, after all he's the God that created life and all the galaxies in space.
I bet Odin help Thor fight Zeus, right? common..
martinez418 7 months ago
@martinez418 you can't name any comics can you? Thor 73 equals dead Hulk. He also defeat Hulk in Thor 489.
Hulk got knocked out by Zeus's lightning. He got knocked out again in the next issue when he fought Zeus in hand-to-hand.
Thor had no help from Odin he fought Zeus. BannerIncredibleHulk's videos? Please. He is so biased and hyperpartisan it's not even funny.
staley1981 7 months ago
@staley1981 Check out the other i just sent you. See the comic were Thor gets defeated by Hulk. Dude, Hulk rules; it seems you're bias.
martinez418 7 months ago
@martinez418 well, you've answered my question that you can't name any issues. More of BannerIncrediblyStupid's videos? In one of those videos, that's no the real Thor. The real Thor was trapped in a different dimension. Notice that BannerIncredibleDouche fails to mention that Hulk had lots of help against Onslaught and in the World War Hulk story line.
Here's a good cartoon you'd enjoy (four breaks):
ht tp://ww w.you tube.com/watch?v=yd1HYu-2 YrY
staley1981 7 months ago
@staley1981 That is the real Thor; quit being so bias, lol. So tell us in your view, what Thor was that? Thor lost buddy, you will have to accept the facts.
Hulk did not have any help but a small portion of the novel script. Come on dude, are you serious? Hulk took about every single character in Marvel all by himself including Thor. You have to admit you sure are a Hulk hater, stop being so bias against the green guy, Thor is cool also; but he just cant top the HULK.
martinez418 7 months ago
@martinez418 I'm being biased because I actually read the comics instead of watching videos with selective scans? That makes no sense. You have too much faith in BannerIncredibleHulk. By the way, did you bother to watch the cartoon I sent you? I don't remember saying I hate Hulk anywhere. Can you point out where I said that? Who do you think amped Hulk for his battle with Onslaught? I've read many Thor and Hulk comics and I think my conclusions are reasonable, and I stand by them too.
staley1981 7 months ago
@staley1981 I've answered your questions. I've sent you the comic books # were you can see and read for yourself that Hulk has defeated Thor many times. Hulk Rules!!
Have you answered yourself why would MARVEL create animated movies where Hulk defeats Thor? because HULK would win, TRUE. The MARVEL animations is just like any comic book by the same creator & business, but with less detail; that is all.
martinez418 7 months ago
@staley1981 Check out comic book Hulk vol.2 #300 where hulk kicks Thor's ass so bad, that before killing him he gets teleported away by Dr Strange. There has been about 18 encounters between Hulk and Thor. Hulk wins. Hulk vol.2 #300 Thor vol #385
Comic hulk #2001<<Hulk beats Thor that nobody knows if he lived or died.
Hulk vol#1 red hulk Hulk beats Thor with his own hammer to the point of almost killing him; until savage Hulk stops red, and defeats him. Hulk wins
martinez418 7 months ago
@martinez418 in Hulk 300, I don't remember Hulk even landing a punch on Thor. You haven't read Hulk Annual 2001, or else you would know that Thor got right back up and nearly drowned Hulk with rain. In Hulk: Let the Battle Begin, Hulk's only way to defeat Thor was to use his own hammer against him. In other words Hulk can't beat Thor through his own means. In Thor 385, Hulk runs away from Thor because he's affraid of Mjolnir. Hulk's famous line in Thor 385 was "Why can't Hulk defeat you?!"
staley1981 7 months ago
@staley1981 You said Thor nearly drowned Hulk with rain; how's that? Hulk can breath under water. Hulk 2001; Hulk beats Thor to the point that no one knows if he lived or die; a little rain didn't hurt Hulk at all.
#385 Thor does not want to fight Hulk without Mjolnir proving Thor is a coward, that fore Hulk wins. Thor hold his own but longer the fight goes Thor is losing, that's when Mjolnir returns. WIMP!.
martinez418 7 months ago
@martinez418 that's correct, Hulk nearly drowned. It happens right after Thor got up when Hulk jumped him. You'd know that if you actually read the comic.
In Thor 385, Thor throws away Mjolnir again and says "I will fell thee with bare hands alone". Hulk decides to take off because his anger has bottomed out. Speaking of wimps, I do recall that Hulk did take a helpless woman hostage in Thor 385 because he's afraid to face Thor with Mjolnir.
staley1981 7 months ago
@staley1981 In the 80's and early 90's Hulk was portrait more as an ape like figure. Fans dislike the Hulk due to this factor, and his mental disability. Change has come upon Hulk now; he's way smarter than he was before and with greater abilities. It takes Thor his flying ability and Mjolnir, not to mention his God like powers from Odin to even dent the Hulk, sad!. The Hulk is sheer strength! that alone has writers thinking positive about the character given him better ratings, INCREDIBLE!.
martinez418 7 months ago
@martinez418 I also forgot to answer your question about cartoons. Hulk has lost to Black Widow and Hawkeye, the Hulk Busters, Kang the Conquerer, Ultron, Loki, the Fantastic Four, Wolverine, and Iron Man in the cartoons. I wouldn't get carried away with citing cartoons because Hulk doesn't have a very good record.
staley1981 7 months ago
@staley1981 Are you serious?; you must be joking to say such a bad thing like that. You've been watching a bias fake version of those cartoons. The cartoons listed and sold at Best buy by Marvel show Hulk defeated ALL the above characters you've mention. Hulk was call upon to defeat Ultron etc. Quit making up stories, not cool man! lol. No character has a good record period; but Hulk would spank Thor any day, being that he's just a freak accident. Thor cant defeat Hulk, & Marvel knows this.
martinez418 7 months ago
@martinez418 yes I'm serious. Here are the episode numbers of Hulk's defeats:
Black Widow and Hawkeye, "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" episode 5;
Hulk Busters, "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" episode 13;
Kang the Conquerer, "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" episode 19;
Ultron, "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" episode 23;
Loki, "Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes" episode 26;
Fantastic Four, "Fantastic Four World's Greatest Heroes" episode 4;
cont...
staley1981 7 months ago
@staley1981 You must have all of the ''AVENGERS Mightiest HEROES'' episodes don't you? only in the cartoon series it slightly happened; not in the animated movie where it shows Hulk wins. In the series they cant allow Hulk to defeat them so quickly due to the story line series continuing. In the animated movies; you can clearly see that no character had a chance against the Hulk.
Ultimate Avengers 1# 2# and the other when their kids and seek Hulk for help to kick Ultrons ass.
Hulk vs Thor,WOL
martinez418 7 months ago
@martinez418 continued from the previous comment....
Wolverine, "Wolverine and the X-Men" episode 7
Iron Man, "Iron Man the Animated Series" season 2, episode 11.
None of that is made up. You can go and fact check me if you like. Yes, Hulk has had an upgrade, but he's still no match for Thor. The facts are on my side.
staley1981 7 months ago
@staley1981 it's obvious the writers won't allow such combat to take place now due to the fans on both sides of the characters. But Hulk has defeated Thor multiple times; Hulk has defeated other characters that Thor alone cant defeat, thus giving Hulk the upper hand.
Statistics indicate the Hulk would destroy Thor. Writers won't write it now, but they're clearly showing it in EVERY recent animated movies. Hope they make a NEW book of this match to see who will really win. HULK!! lol
martinez418 7 months ago
@martinez418 Thor's defeated Hulk multiple times. Twice in What if, Thor 385 (by forfeit), Thor 489, Thor 73 volume 2, Earth Infinity War 5, Hulk Annual 2001 (second fight Thor knocked Hulk out with lightning) etc. The stats are the opposite; they favor Thor.
Ultron wasn't in either of the Ultimate Avengers movies. If you're going to dimiss Hulk's defeats in the cartoons, which are not slight in any way, then his cartoon wins don't count either. Otherwise, you've got a double standard.
staley1981 7 months ago
@staley1981 Lol. Hulk defeated Ultron on the little Avengers animated movie. Hulk defeated Thor Caps Iron man, Giant man, wasp, etc on the Avengers animated movie. I would love to see Thor handle himself with all the Marvel characters on him and try to pull it off and be on top just like the Hulk did. Thor cant do it, Marvel know this. Like i said before; Avengers mightiest heroes series, they cant portrait Hulk to always kick their butts; due to it being a continuing series and a team. Hulk win
martinez418 7 months ago
@martinez418 you're losing more credibility as this conversation goes on. Ultron wasn't in the Ulimate Avengers cartoon. That was Chituari, the Ultimate Skrulls. Hulk wasn't the only Marvel character that died in Thor 73: Dr. Strang, Thing, Wolverine, and many other characters died fighting Thor in that issue. Since you like statistics, here's one you'll enjoy. The new Thor movie has grossed $447,427,218 at the box office; the Hulk movie only made $263,427,551. Thor FTW.
staley1981 7 months ago
@staley1981 it's called the ''NEXT AVENGERS'' animated movie. Look it up and you'll see Hulk destroys Ultron when either Caps or Thor or for that matter any of the Avengers could not.
Movie money wise, Thor was a hit; simple! due to the fact that there's never been a movie out there about Thor; Marvel fans had to see, even myself. But Hulk has more revenue. Thor was just a 1 hit wonder. Hulks has years and years in the business revenue, from Hit series to Hulk cartoons etc. Hulk would still win
martinez418 7 months ago
@martinez418 Hulk had help with fighting Ultron in that movie. Thor and Captain America weren't around for that fight. Besides, Ultron made quick work of Hulk in Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes.
One hit wonder? Please. Thor is also critically acclaimed earning a certified fresh rating from Rotten Tomatoes. Your comparison by amalgamating Hulk's revenue over the years is invalid to Thor's performance at the box office. Thor's dominates Hulk at the box office. That's a fact.
staley1981 7 months ago
@martinez418 the cool thing about Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes is that it's neutral. The writers can't favor Hulk like in the Hulk vs. cartoons. Everybody gets treated equally. Hulk doesn't get the silk glove treatment in that series. As I've stated before, Hulk has had some serious and reasonable defeats in that series as well.
staley1981 7 months ago
can anybody please give me a link where i can read the fight between hulk and zeus ?!? thx
basti370 7 months ago
Just to let you guys know this is not WWH it is that pathetic Banner-Hulk for some reason. Read Hulk #662 or 663. If it had been Banners OTHER than Zeus would be dead. Hurcules and even Thor are stronger than Zeus I think. This is so strange. Vultures man c'mon how lame!!!
Warbound7 7 months ago
@Warbound7 dude, at some point you must except that Hulk lost in a fair fight against Zeus. Zeus literally outclasses Hulk in terms of power and he (Zeus) didn't even fight anywhere close to his potential. There is no shame in losing to Zeus. Where does it say in Hulks 621 or 622 that it was Banner-Hulk? I have both of those issues and it doesn't mention that.
staley1981 7 months ago
@staley1981 Why can't people get through their head that Zeus could take out the Hulk just by thinking about it? Zeus wanted to make him suffer, and he did just that. Zeus whipped the Avengers by himself. Among that group was Thor, Sub Mariner fresh out of the water, and the She Hulk.
Originalman320 6 months ago
@Originalman320 you make great points. I believe the answer to the Hulk fanatic fallout after fighting Zeus is extreme fanatism. One Hulk fan I was talking to said that Hulk was more powerful than Galactus (no joke). Zeus beats any version of Hulk hands down.
staley1981 6 months ago
@staley1981 Understand that I'm not a Hulk hater. I'm in fact a fan. However, I know the truth, and will tell it regardless to whom or what.
Originalman320 6 months ago
@Originalman320 I understand. I always root for Hulk to triumph over evil. Its good that speak your mind on this matter too.
staley1981 6 months ago
@staley1981 fair fight?zeus blitzed hulk with lightening that depowered him.and he was fighting zeus at olympus.kinda like fighting cyttorak in the crimson cosmos.seriously dude,check out the story again,zeus destroys hulk with a lightening bolt before they fight.at the end when he is chained to the rock,hulk is told that zeus weakened his strength and healing ability.
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare who would have ever thought a single lightning bolt could bring down the Hulk? Yes this was a fair fight. Get over it, Hulk lost. There are no excuses. Remember when Hera said to Hulk "Zeus could vaporize you with a thought." Zeus didn't even fight anywhere near his potential and still made quick work of Hulk. He made Hulk suffer because he could.
staley1981 6 months ago
@staley1981thanks for not replying directly,i appreciate that.sigh* your not really a fan of marvel ,are you???
okay the solution is simple,become a marvel fan,and stop acting like a fanboy,oh btw learn to read comments and comics properly XD
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare you're nobody tell anyone how to read comics, or comments. A fanboy is somebody who spins and makes all the excuses in world for their favorite character's shortcomings. That pejorative describes you. Is that direct enough?
staley1981 6 months ago
@staley1981 wellllllllll when you type a reply comment to somebody,its usually a great idea to hit the "reply" button beside the comment,dumbass.also i say read comics because you clearly missed important points regarding the above fight.again how is it a fair fight when one guy clearly depowers the other before a punch is thrown.it is as plain as day in the comic.LeBearExtrordinare thats who i am,in case you missed it,douchebag XD
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare sounds like I struck a nerve. I didn't miss any important points; you're just full of spin and excuses, and lies. I'm not so sure what makes you so upset that Hulk lost to Zeus, and I don't care either. Somehow Zeus using his powers against Hulk is unfair? That's some really sound logic you've got going. You do the definition of fanboy lots of justice.
staley1981 6 months ago
@staley1981 hahaha delusional much???now please explain why i would be upset about a fictional character getting beat up???especially after you have convinced yourself that i actually care.
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
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staley1981 6 months ago
@staley1981 ROFL,remove retarded comments much???
no,actually its funny how you think it was a fair fight.id say a straight up fist fight is fair,would you???zeus did kinda use magic on hulk,did he not???hulks not known for his magic abilities,oh wait a sec........hulk does not have any magic abilities.my point still stands,jackass XD
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare oh, so you do care afterall. Thanks for proving my point. You've got no point, only lame excuses. Does Wolverine cheat when he uses his claws and healing factor? No. Does Spider-man cheat when uses his webbing? No. Does Silver Surfer cheat when he uses his board? No. Yet somehow you maintain that Zeus is cheating when he uses only a fraction of his power on Hulk. You've got a double standard. Zeus is synonymous with lightning.
staley1981 6 months ago
@staley1981 There's no use in arguing with this guy, he's on almost every Hulk video trying to sell his BS that Hulk is omnipotent or some shit.
Yeah I would like to know myself how Zeus using his lightning is considered cheating? Thats just a weak, lame piss poor excuse, notice that these fanboys don't cry foul when Hulk beats another villian/hero, oooohhhh but when one such as Zeus beats him, its considered "cheating" caused he used his powers? 0_0
stasshole1984 6 months ago
@stasshole1984 hey dude, you're right. Extaordinarybearcrap is full of a lot wind. Hulks 621 and 622 are good examples of why Hulk fanatics have a bad reputation. He exemplifies it. In case you're wondering, I didn't start this conversation either. What can I say? I attract stupidity.
staley1981 6 months ago
@staley1981 Oh I know, yeah as soon as you point out to these Hulk fanatics that their favorite character is not all powerful the stupidity flies haha.
stasshole1984 6 months ago
@staley1981you know quite well word for word what it said.and it said "you have been HIT by zeus".now where exactly do YOU see the word punch or punched???hahahaha i love how you used "sucker punch" as some kind of argument winner, maybe you need a sucker punch to the back of the head to sort out your selective memory.
again it clearly shows zeus blitzing hulk with his lightening before a punch was thrown,so its up to you to prove to me,that the first bolt did not depower hulk.
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare you're still typifying the fanboy. It doesn't say that the lightning bolt depowered Hulk. Hephaestus doesn't say that either in the aftermath. You made that too easy. You're just passing off speculation as facts--very dishonest. Speaking of selective memory, you said to Stasshole1984 that I started this conversation (your diabtribe). That's was you.
staley1981 6 months ago
@staley1981incorrect, i stated to stasshole that you started the argument,when i asked you a straight forward question.to which you did NOT directly reply you even deleted some comments.and actually got aggresive as a result of my questioning your opinion,thats what REALLY happened.now i would like you to point out to me,when exactly does zeus depower hulk.and it actually does say "you have been hit by zeus" in those words,so why are you arguing that?
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare what argument with you did I start? You're opening comment towards me was rude and snarky. You hurled around slurs towards me too--and since. So I replied in kind; you had it coming. I stand by what I say because I'm not speculating, like you do. Dance around it all you like. You don't have to like the result of Hulks 622, but you have to deal with it. Try not to be lowclass about either.
staley1981 6 months ago
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@staley1981 "fair fight?zeus blitzed hulk with lightening that depowered him.and he was fighting zeus at olympus.kinda like fighting cyttorak in the crimson cosmos.seriously dude,check out the story again,zeus destroys hulk with a lightening bolt before they fight.at the end when he is chained to the rock,hulk is told that zeus weakened his strength and healing ability ".thats my original comment to you,where am i rude or snarky in that comment,you prick.
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@staley1981 so lets start that again,i asked you a simple thing,and it was YOU who turned into a rabid troll and deleted some of your replies.now you make out like i am the protaganist???im just meeting you at your level.
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare the word protaganist is way too dignified for you. I'm a rabbid troll? You should read your own comments.
staley1981 6 months ago
@staley1981 Word of advise buddy?you should read my comments too,LOL. you see,thats how much of a dickhead you are.you cant even acknowledge that you where in the wrong.even if i had of continued to be nice about things,you would have still come across as a prick.so your "little miss innocent" act is kinda pathetic at this point in time.carry on trolling,or fuck off back under your bridge,your choice XD
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare when were you ever nice? I don't read you're sophomoric comments? I wonder where I get the wherewithal to reply. You continue to act lowclass, and you haven't proven me wrong on anything. You're also no one to be giving me advice, in any capacity.
staley1981 6 months ago
@staley1981correction,you dont read my comments properly at all.and i find it hilarious that i would have an american calling me low class?hypocritical almost.especially from one such as yourself who clearly suffers from ignorance and delusion and goes as far as making things up to cloud the fact your a prick.so anyway why did you degenerate into a 5 year old when i asked you why you thought the above subject was a fair fight?if you have a problem with how i speak to you?blame only yourself ;)
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare now you're scapegoating me for your diatribe. Low class is just scatching the surface with you. A 5 year old? Okay. You've been outpunctuated, outclassed, outarticulated, and outdebated by a 5 year old. That should make you feel better. I stand by what I said with Zeus and Hulk. I'm not sure what nationality has to do with anything.
staley1981 6 months ago
@staley1981scapegoating?WOW.ignorant and delussional to the bitter end,arent you pettle?LOL,wishful thinking on your part regarding outsmarting me,i dont need to delete my comments,unlike you,nor am i afraid to directly address somebody on a subject.Nationality would play a key part in this exchange.you see every time i receive a comment that goes off point,10 times out of 10 the commentor ALWAYS comes from the united states of arrogance......whoops,i meant america XD
funny that.
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare my nationality is the reason why you're so simple minded. Go figure. Any dignity you had is gone. The author of Hulks 622 is American. Marvel comics is also based and established in the United States. Maybe that's why you're so apoplectic.
staley1981 6 months ago
@staley1981 okay now i know im dealing with more than 1 person using the one account,whats the deal?your mom or dad take over from you at a certain time?hey other person,using the staley1981 account,go bite me,you argumentative asshole :)
this conversation is now at an end.
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@staley1981 as my final parting shot,isnt it funny that an american has trouble reading literature conceived from his home country and WRITTEN mostly for children,ROFL.the irony of it all XD
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare it's actually funny that a simpleton rips on a country while enjoying the comics that are written in that country (while acting like a deranged fanboy). It doesn't get more contradictory than that; there's no bigger double standard. That's irony.
staley1981 6 months ago
@staley1981 wrong again,i rip on the simpletons that reside in the states,namely simpletons like you XD
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare I thought you were done with your prattle.
staley1981 6 months ago
@staley1981are you still throwing your toys from your cot???
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare speaking of toys, if you're a good little "bear", maybe you'll get a Hulk toy for "Christmas." No pun intended.
staley1981 5 months ago
@staley1981 awwwww shucks,the only thing i want for christmas is to tap your mommas big fat cheeseburger munching ass XD
maybe then she will produce some offspring that can actually read properly,LOL.
LeBearExtrordinare 5 months ago
@staley1981 oh and when i say depower,you must think im putting hulk at banner level strength,ROFL.no just enough strength/durability to take a beating from zeus.
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@staley1981 Not to mention that after Zeus hit him with lightning, Hulk was still conscience, THEN they started the fist fight, and Zeus still kicked his ass. And yeah, Hulk may have well wanted to just sacrifice himself or whatever bullshit, but he was still trying to fight back at Zeus to no avail. And there is nothing that suggest that Hulk was holding back in the first place, bc Hulk #634 or whatever issue does not say he held back against Zeus.
stasshole1984 6 months ago
@stasshole1984 as for you?i remember you,i handed you your ass on another video didnt i XD who the fuck said hulk was holding back?not me,dipshit.who ever said hulk was omnipotent?certainly not me.and who is on every hulk video on youtube?id bet you visit more hulk vids with your anti-hulk B/S than i ever could.one more thing?go back to my original comment to the other douchebag,it was actually HIM who started the argument,i just finished it in record time,come get some if you have balls,pussy.
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare Handed me my ass according to whom? You? Ha don't make me laugh, and could just turn around and say I handed you're ass just like staley is doing in this vid.
And bullshit, You're on just about every Hulk vs. video on youtube spouting off you're BS that Hulk can't be beaten by almost damn near anyone. I'm not "anti hulk" btw, I like the Hulk, I just don't think he's all powerful like you do. Your so delusional as to think Hulk can beat a skyfather....cont
stasshole1984 6 months ago
@stasshole1984 really?care to explain how i got my ass handed to me by that other guy?because as far as i can see,its him who is deleting his comments to me and afraid to reply directly.you,oh yeah i definitely handed you your monkey ass on a plate,let me think back,it was either the juggernaut debate or the thor debate,the only 2 hulk videos you WILL find my comments on.again why make shit up,where exactly did i say hulk was all powerful,you dolt,i think your the delusional mess tbh.
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare You know what? Hows this, how about we put aside all the insults and put downs against one another and just actually debate this topic. For the record I didn't say YOU said Hulk was all powerful, and if I did then i'm sorry, though I meant to say most diehard Hulk fans tend to think he's all powerful using the whole "unlimited strength excuse". So, trying to be civil here, what is the argument you're trying to make with Hulk vs Zeus?
stasshole1984 6 months ago
@stasshole1984 did you finally realise? that was what i was trying to do from the very beginning.i never said hulk should have won that fight,all i was asking is why you thought it was a fair fight,thats all.
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare Well like I said before, the reason I think it was a fair fight was bc that First lightning bolt didn't drain Hulk of his power, and right after he got up (which is impressive I admit) he was fine and ready to fist fight. So after the first bolt, both were still in fighting shape and officially started to fight fist to fist afterwards. After which Zeus beat him on Hulks terms physically, and in so doing poured salt on the wound by using a second bolt to torture him.
stasshole1984 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare Well I retract my statement about Zeus using a second lightning bolt, I thought he hit Hulk again with a second one but he didn't. But still Hulk got back up on the first bolt, and challenged Zeus to a fist fight, to which Zeus obliged him. So I don't see how that is unfair, Hulk hit Zeus one time and Zeus hit him six. Hephaestus says "You've been hit by Zeus" doesn't mention anything about the bolt draining Hulk's healing factor.
stasshole1984 6 months ago
@stasshole1984 if i may suggest,try get your hands on a book called "the official handbook of marvel universe,vol1"there are some rather interesting things regarding zeus and olympus.Hephaestus did tell hulk that zeus had depowered him,but left him just enough strength and durability,to endure his fate over and over again,however zeus did quip that hulk had his punishment coming for a long time,which suggests zeus planned hulks punishment for some time before their last fight,zeus is clever :)
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare Yeah, I agree Hephaestus did say that to Hulk but he didn't specify WHAT attack or attacks that depowered him. I can only conclude that since Hulk was physically capable of challenging Zeus to a fist fight and Zeus obliging to his challenge that this was a fair fight.
stasshole1984 6 months ago
@stasshole1984 again the fact zeus blitzed him with the same lightening that destroyed the titans,leaves the whole fight open to debate.to say its fair is a bit much,especially after what hephaestus says,also hephaestus is rather shocked to find hulk is alive after that lightening attack,conclusion.....zeus is a fucking coward,hulk hit the nail on the head.after reading IH 634 and 635 hopefully these guys go at it again,my money is going on hulk to down that diva god once and for all.
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@stasshole1984 does he need to be specific???the fact is zeus depowered him,he did not depower him AFTER the fight.that much is certain.its plain as day in the comic,zeus is NOT having a straight up fist fight with hulk.hes hitting him with magically imbued strikes.you CANT say zeus is only using physical strength alone,when clearly he is not.again look at his fists.that blind twat staley must be reading a braille edition because he wont acknowledge all i pointed out.staley hates being wrong.
LeBearExtrordinare 6 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare Well I think saying Hulk fighting and beating a Skyfather is a little much. But thats just my opinion. And and there is nothing in the comic to suggest that Zeus used magically imbued strikes just bc there is lightning around his fist. I mean he is synonymous with lightning after all. And why would Zeus accept Hulks challenge and then use magic? Sorry but I disagree, all I see is a fist fight nothing more.
stasshole1984 5 months ago
@stasshole1984 hey dude, you're right; I pointed out the same thing about Zeus being synonymous with lightning. However, little bear's ego and hyperpartisan thinking crush his own reasoning. I know that's blatant, but it's true. I also asked the vituperative comic critic to point out where it said word-for-word that Zeus drained Hulk's strength with magic or lightning. He couldn't, so he filibustered instead.
staley1981 5 months ago
@staley1981 hahahaha look at you crying to stasshole,son are you tried to get me to make up words that were not printed in the comic?i quoted what it said word for word.and as a matter of fact i DID answer your question read it again,dumbass.i asked you to look at the artwork and to tell me if YOU can see lightening imbued in zeus fists when he hits hulk,its there plain as day,and you still argue that fact???you really do get dumber with each reply XD
LeBearExtrordinare 5 months ago
@staley1981 you know,if hulk had of beating zeus,i bet stale would have been one of the first people to hit youtube moaning about how overpowered hulk has become and how much he hates the character.
2 things i want him to acknowledge.1)zeus hit hulk with magic before they fight.2)zeus is using lightening in his punches.its that simple.if he denies this,hes one dumb S.O.B,if he fails to answer.it just proves that he is a douchebag.my only question? is how he thinks it was a fair fight,that it.
LeBearExtrordinare 5 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare stooping lower and lower in the gutter. Maybe you won't get a Hulk toy for "Christmas". What? I can't give stasshole my input too? I'm not going to let some bigot like you censor me. I've already answered your "fair fight' question. Instead of offering substanence, you only offered speculation. You were also dismissive and just filibustered.
staley1981 5 months ago
@staley1981 ROFL i told you already,i want to shove quarter pounders up your mommas anus as a christmas present.maybe ill DP her with some hulk toys too bet she would like that,the dirty mare LOL. i really love when you americans start hiding behind these little pseudo-intellectual caricatures you make for yourselves.bet my life is far more exciting than your obscure little existence XD
oh and to quote oscar wilde if i may "we are all in the gutter,but some of us are looking at the stars".
LeBearExtrordinare 5 months ago
@staley1981 Yeah I mean all Hephaestus said was "You've been hit by Zeus" "You're strength won't return for a LONG time", but it doesn't specify what attack did drain Hulk's strength. But my point is that the lightning attack did NOT drain Hulk as he was perfectly capable of fighting fist to fist with Zeus afterwards, its only after the fist fight that Hephaestus mentions the strength draining which implies to me that Zeus drained Hulks strength physically. cont....
stasshole1984 5 months ago
@stasshole1984 you cant really argue that it does not specify which attack depowered hulk,thats silly.the fact is it states zeus did hit hulk,so we know it happened either before the fight or during the fight,certainly NOT after the fight.you cant deny that.a simple yes would suffice regarding zeus amped punches,so again,is there lightening coming from his hands when he hits hulk?yes or no?you have already acknowledged that zeus DID strike hulk down before the fight.
LeBearExtrordinare 5 months ago
@LeBearExtrordinare cont...but as I have already argued, it was Zeus's own physical strength and power that depowered Hulk and not his lightning or supposed amped fist. And again I argue, what is the big deal if Zeus DID use his powers? I'm sorry, but like I said before, Both character's were both in perfectly fighting shape before the fist fight, Hulk lost, Zeus won who cares? Why would Zeus use "magic" during the fight after he agreed to fight Hulk on his terms?
stasshole1984 5 months ago
@staley1981 cont.... But my BIGGER point is so what? So what if Zeus attacks did drain Hulk? Since when does using your powers count as cheating or not being fair? And I'm not saying Zeus used "magic amplified" fist to drain Hulk, I'm saying Zeus's strength and power alone is what did Hulk in. Why would Zeus need to amp himself up when he already accepted Hulk's challenge on his terms? Not to mention since Zeus could destroy Hulk with a thought.
stasshole1984 5 months ago
@staley1981 And to simply put, Zeus is just more powerful, so how is this even a fight to begin with? Not disrespecting the hulk by any means but come on, thats like spiderman challenging hulk to a fist fight but not allowing his rage/healing factor abilities. Hulk would still beat the shit out of him lol, hope my analogy made sense. And again, I like the Hulk, I do, but I will not make him out to be more than what he is, saying he can beat a skyfather is way to much credit.
stasshole1984 5 months ago
@stasshole1984 dude, you've got nothing to apologize for. You make a very strong, comprehensive, and level-headed case about Zeus's victory over Hulk. It's much more corherent than the mentally impotent midget (BareBrain) that's been running his head off for the last week. You're also very correct in saying that the Hulk defeating a skyfather is an unrealistic expectation. However, lesser minds are not so rational, if you know what I mean.
staley1981 5 months ago