300 Year Old Food Forest in Vietnam

[petrofang]

I like how there is a hit-and-run in the background as he says "happy accident" at about 45 .. @0:44

[c0unterph0bia]

My property is four acres of bullshit pain in the ass lawn and shrubbery. You've truly inspired me to change my yard into something useful, sustainable, productive, and low maintenance...

[EagleIreports]

Awesome @LaNaDaWarjack this is a incredible place

[COMEDYvidz11]

Gay!!!!!:) hehehehehe

[pbeggar]

For more information on the diversity and genetic resources maintained in Vietnamese Home gardens, please see  Agrobiodiversity conservation and development in Vietnamese home gardens. L.N. Trinh, Jessica,Watson,et.al. Agricultural Ecosystems and Environment 2033. and Vietnamese Home Gardens : Cultural and Crop Diversity in Home Gardens and Agrobiodiversity (Eyzaguirre & Linares) Smithsonian Books, Washington DC 2004

[pbeggar]

For more information on the diversity and genetic resources maintained in Vietnamese Home gardens, please see Agrobiodiversity conservation and development in Vietnamese home gardens. L.N. Trinh, Jessica,Watson,et.al. Agricultural Ecosystems and Environment 2033. and Vietnamese Home Gardens : Cultural and Crop Diversity in Home Gardens and Agrobiodiversity (Eyzaguirre & Linares) Smithsonian Books, Washington DC

[elwood180]

It's a vegan's wet dream.

[markus21589]

ty for that

[msoviet409]

Good ecological presentation. This is a very common sight in rural areas of Viet Nam. To a visitor who's unfamiliar with the culture this may appear like a wild untended garden. Apparently it is not, because every element found there is useful for a variety of purposes. Sure it looks like a mess, but a mess with full of pleasant surprises.

[isfckingevil]

This is what we need to do once peak oil has hit. First start with reducing the world population.

[zilbiol]

@isfckingevil you first

[vanRijn64]

@isfckingevil Yeah, lets kill everyone so we can feel better about ourselves...

[inremembranceofruth]

Oh! Not certain if this is applicable (geographically). But have you seen the following via youtube?

"A Central Florida Forest Garden Experiment"

[inremembranceofruth]

Left marveling...in reflection. Have seen this video a couple of times previously. Yet, how could each viewing not leave one in awe? And, of course - a profound utterance at the very end. Glad that more and more of us are recognizing what is of particular value, what is vital - and what has been pronouncedly detrimental for all of the species of this earth.

[racevws]

You don't have to be a granola tree hugger to like this. And people who don't like genetically modified food don't realize that is what we have been doing since we started agriculture. Ever eaten a wild apple?

[vanRijn64]

@racevws But the wild apple was a gift from mother earth! It is natural now because it was molded by generations of loving hands instead of the evil machinations of the globalist who just want to control us and subvert us from the natural way until we are utterly dependent upon them, it will be too late to return to our peaceful natural ways.... Haha, I cant keep the masquerade up any longer. I agree with you, these 'forests' are a nice hobby, but they are no solution to the worlds 'problems'.

[bloodnashes666]

@vanRijn64 Are you aware of how much a single mature fruit tree produces? 100+ pounds of fruit is not uncommon, and yet we primarily rely on annual crops that produce far less per acre. You can feed a family of 4 on a quarter acre of land if done right. The industrial food system is already becoming a problem and will continue to do as such because it relies on cheap fossil fuels and monocultures that destroy the soil they work with.

[vanRijn64]

@bloodnashes666 Hmmm, so 100 pounds of fruit. Each tree would need, what, 5m by 5m minimum to grow (and thats going to cause problems) therefore 40 trees per quarter acre (1000m^2) = 4000 pounds of food a year = 1000 pounds per person per year = 2.7 pounds = 634 Calories per day per person... nope, cant live on that. Plus 'food forests' with no transport is absolutely not a solution for people living in large cities, it is a fine hobby but useless as a complete solution.

[dlcpereira]

@vanRijn64 you are right, 28 generations shows its not working..you know nothing about permaculture, just google something about vertical gardening and stfu

[vanRijn64]

@dlcpereira Oh so you basically want to replace a low cost horizontal farm with a world trade center sized buildings in order to feed high density populations. Yeahhh... that effective. And before you go 'no, I mean strata layers when I talk about vertical' I will say "yep, they work, but the more strata you have, the lower the yield of each subsequent strata". You are never going to get from 634 calories to 1,800 let alone the 3,600 young active people need as a healthy minimum.

[dlcpereira]

@vanRijn64 and btw.. even new york has available space to produce 88% percent of city food needs

[vanRijn64]

@dlcpereira New York the city or state? The state has the space to support the population (assuming the land is otherwise viable). But how do you plan on transporting the produce from the 'food forests' to the cities? If you are going to use infrastructure to transport the goods, then the free market will decide which method is the most efficient give market costs. Evidently 'industrialized farming' is more efficient. Google Hong Kong, the USA is not the limit of the world.

[dlcpereira]

@vanRijn64 the city.. the problem is he pollution, food would be contaminated, we need green energy

[vanRijn64]

@dlcpereira I can agree on green energy. I would venture that nuclear power is the way to go given current technology (heavily regulated of course) but I have a feeling you would rule that out on principal. Certainly if we invest in high energy, weather independent, green energy (such as the elusive nuclear fusion) we may have something that is 'green' AND realistic. Of course, that will require R&D (Possibly $trillions of it) but I support that.

[bloodnashes666]

@racevws Just to clarify, Genetic Modification and Selective Breeding are entirely different fields. Genetic Modification takes genes from an outside species (usually not even in the same family of being) and uses a virus or gene gun to inject said gene into the plant of choice. Selective Breeding is picking wild or hybridized plants that have preferable traits :)

[vanRijn64]

@bloodnashes666 It is true that Genetic Modification and Selective Breeding are entirely different fields... However... did you know that 8% of your DNA was inserted by a Virus? Does this make you wholly unnatural and genetically modified? The number varies but this is the case for every living thing on the planet. So is the introduction of DNA from an outside species, not of the same family whatsoever, an unnatural human activity? Its happening to you right now.... We are just more selective...

[CalicoRegent]

It's nice to see an eden still exists somewhere on this planet. It's sad to think though that if a family had something like this here in the U.S., you know that the government would take it from them, bulldoze it, and pour concrete over it.

[Oakherder]

Gardeners should be put in charge of the world.

[vanRijn64]

@Oakherder Why?

[TheRealDealinlife]

Nice video. I would like to have this in my back yard! keep up the good work!

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[cursedwyvern]

Does anyone know where I can find good information about starting a food forest in subtropical mid Florida? Cavendish bananas tend to freeze to the ground in the winter here, but we're too warm for apples :) not sure which nitrogen fixers would be good choices here either. I don't think clover is an option? A lot of northern plants can't take our heat in the summer, most tasty herbs are pointless. Most farms near here grow cows and oranges and not much else. Sigh.

[hananokuni2580]

@cursedwyvern CenFla is great for a food forest! There are subtropical apple varieties, such as Dorsett Golden. These will grow well where you are. Musa basjoo (Japanese fiber banana) is a hardy variety of banana. Herbs such as basil and oregano will do well, as well. Figs, peaches, and kiwifruit are also suitable.

There are many varieties of your favorite plants that will grow nicely in. Northern varieties require very long summer days for production - a condition not found in Florida.

[bloodnashes666]

@cursedwyvern In Central Florida citrus is obviously a prime choice, as are figs, pomegranates, almonds, plums, peaches, and some cherry varieties. Blueberries, strawberries, and blackberries are also good shrub-level plants. Heck you can even grow low-no chill apples, I know there are a few varieties. As far as legumes: Mimosa, Locusts, Cassia, Albizia, and Acacias should be suitable in zone 8B and higher.

[simonkism]

thank god this survived the rape of the country by america, including agent orange

great video

-america

[vuman9]

Authoritarian and communist Vietnamese government will SOON fall just like Tunisia and Egypt.

[gabehampton]

This is an awesome video, Thanks. I have been learning more about Permaculture and Bill Mollison lately.. He did a lot, but it turns out he really didn't create the idea, but he gets a lot of props for pushing the idea more and creating these kinds of gardens all over the world. You should look up Bill Mollision Permaculture on Youtube and find his documentary. It is well worth watching for anyone. It should be mandatory for people to watch it.

[skyknight2k3]

That is amazing. This is the kind of thing you need to establish on some planet somewhere so the colonists can be self sufficient. I wish them a happy life and many more generations of existence.

[vidaripollen]

such gardens were there in kerala n south india.they were mind boggling.every thing was grown around the house.when children migrate to cities they slowly vanish.

[mi777ke777]

probably get some good buds in there...lol

[artnuwa11]

Thank you for sharing. Goes to show what can be done when family cares for family and nature.

[moon9one]

i am vietnamese, i can guide you. welcome to Vietnam - my homeland

[JesseBAndersen]

This guy has been behind a desk and computer for way too long. ;)

[DracOverLordHaton]

@JesseBAndersen - how has he? Even in the video you can clearly see the amount of urban places that have destroyed natural land in that country too.

[JesseBAndersen]

@DracOverLordHaton I have been in similar places in Guatemala. I used to walk from my house to a forest nearby and munched on a variety of fruits. It was good times. It's also gone now because they chopped that forest down. :( Those types of "food forest" exist in many places. I don't think finding one is that special. Sometimes "city" boys are easily impressed with nature stuff.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@JesseBAndersen - well you contradicted your own lies there. First you say they were ruined, the ones you used. Then you say it's not special to find one.

Clearly the point being - there are so little of them left anywhere that yes it's very special to find any. ie your original comment that I queried was trying to dis the guy for reacting appropriately to something very rare in todays world.

How much food produced comes from places like that? Not even 1%.

[JesseBAndersen]

@DracOverLordHaton Contradicted "lies"? Talking about accusing someone.... It's not special to find them if you know where to look. Also... have you been to any jungles recently? It's been a few months since I was in Belize.

I'm not trying to diss this discovery... Is just that "city" boys are easily impressed with nature.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@JesseBAndersen - you sound way more like a city boy than anyone promoting good stuff like this video is about. You aren't natural like indigenous people - they'd never have that nasty corrupt attitude you have. They just send your kind to try any insult possible to discredit good things, soldier boy userpic.

[JesseBAndersen]

@DracOverLordHaton I like the tech stuff so I do that. I may not "look" indigenous, but I was born and raised in Guatemala. I earned $1 to $2 a day picking coffee beans. I did that for several years until age 15 when I moved to the USA. I guess growing up in the farm made me want to seek tech stuff, and the tech geek on the video is attracted to nature. It's like interests cross over.

I think you have no done a better job at the attitude issue than me. I'm a Marine, not a soldier.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@JesseBAndersen - that don't pan out as near to being true, nobody worth their salt would call this guy a city boy.

If you knew about the environment then you wouldn't be saying these places are all over - if you are in the military you should be even more aware of how little anything natural is left.

No you're right, the picture you have looks nothing like you are what you say you are. Like all the other YT channels that exist to post dis comments from many angles at anyone ecological.

[JesseBAndersen]

@DracOverLordHaton Wow buddy. Thanks for the kind comments. I'm glad we can accept each others different point of views. I hope we are both at peace with our statements.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@JesseBAndersen - your comments on this guy don't sit well with me. They don't sound like what someone from Guatemala would propagate, as - certainly the indigenous folks there for one - they know first-hand what organised government corruption and harm to the environment is doing, it's much more present there as a lot of the area is unspoiled. Your words sound more like a nihilistic 1st world teen had posted them, totally different attitude / energy.

[JesseBAndersen]

@DracOverLordHaton Anything else? It's good to release stress.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@JesseBAndersen - no just that. I like to defuse NLP when I see it being misused. That comment also proves you are not indigenous or from Guatemala naturally. You are Yankie* smartarse through and through.

[JesseBAndersen]

@DracOverLordHaton Si

[DracOverLordHaton]

@JesseBAndersen - works about as well as the usual CIA etc disguises, doesn't it.

[JesseBAndersen]

@DracOverLordHaton I have learned a little lesson. Debating a radical minded is a waste of time. Sometimes it's just better to ignore than to fuel the fire. Laters buddy... I'm gonna go listen to some Ronald Jenkees.

[DracOverLordHaton]

@JesseBAndersen - it'd be better if you'd learned a real lesson before you commented here, such as 'join the right side for a change cause if you don't then you go to hell after you die, if not before that'..

[pokenei]

This is nice. i would love to live in such places. Unfortunately, this kind of oasis is disappearing fast. The number one reason: Greed. Land is worth a lot more in an urbanized environment. I have experienced this first hand because I am from vietnam. After 20 years, my old residence, once look like this place, is now filled with concrete homes and rubber farms. It's sad really, and as the human population continue to expand, it will only get worse.

[GagnezTV]

A modern day garden of eden....

-G

[lubu1234]

This is what will come to be with Anastasia's Dream!

[PcGamerPaul]

My grandmas backyard in Vietnam is awesome lol they have chickens and fruits everywhere and a cow then a big river with fish

[Charlesincharge42]

This is beautiful! you guys would love the one he found in Morocco, its 2,000 years old!

watch?v=hftgWcD-1Nw

[aihlo]

they should document the locations and taxonomies of the plants in case they sell the property to developers or something

[Jefferdaughter]

Fascinating. Someone ought to write a book on this one garden, and the dynamic relationship between all those generations of that family and this plot of land.

[jsplifer]

Great stumbling upon these little gems on youtube. Thanks for uploading this and allowing us to peer into this old and unique farm.

[driftx2]

I was born in vietnam from a place like this and I'd hate to see vietnam become more industrialized. Staying like this is what makes it unique. I've come back to visit a few times and it is great!

[lubu1234]

@Bootlegization Have you read the Ringing Cedars series?

[octohorse]

I love the emotion in his voice at the end when he says this is the way of the past and the future

[tuvieni]

fantastik video! do you know how to get there?

[highinthesky231]

its horrible that this way of living is completly lost in america..just look at how healthy those old people were im mean that is the way to live with nature.human beings are not meant to live of mass produced genitcally modifed food that anmals wont even eat becuase they now it will make tham sick....but you know thats what the glbalist want they dont want alot of people alive since keeping a small number of people enslved is a lot easier than enslaving a lot of pepole

[charliepc56]

@highinthesky231 I think the best thing that could happen in America is to burn all the fast food joints and destroy at least half the automobiles, including the trucks, and get back to Street Cars, busses and trains and stop Urban Sprawl, return the land to agriculture. Vietnam is a developed nation. The USA is a over developed nation, and we could learn much from countries like Vietnam. Thanks to flastoons for such an inspiring video!

[vanRijn64]

@highinthesky231 Soooooo, what do you think the life expectancy is in Vietnam? What do you think the life expectancy is in, say, Japan or Singapore? Hmmm, I wonder if this evil globalist system is somehow not working and keeping people alive longer! You can opt out of the 'globalist' way, you can reject science, you can reject development, you can reject the human desire to build, strive and create and yet you can still enjoy the fruits of those who don't reject these things. Don't forget that.

[wayinoutreach]

They are already banning 'organic farming', do you think they will let anyone do this in north america? Not!!

Great video though & I am really glad to see that somethings survived the Napon Bombs!!

God Bless!!

[Aussiemoo]

I think you mean napalm.

[wayinoutreach]

Thank you!!

God Bless!!

[snooch1975]

whos banning organic farming??

[motoxbuddy]

Obama

[NoirFan01]

@motoxbuddy: I've heard that Obama wants us to call him Uncle O in honor of Ho Chi Minh. lol

[wayinoutreach]

They have started banning it in the US, & the Canadian organic growers are getting the flack as well. God Bless!!

[baubosophia]

Inspirational! Yes, I thought of Anastasia, too! The land area is approximately her recommended first thought area -- several acres. Succession is an under-appreciated concept by most gardeners.I know that the plants that live in the open baking sun are completely different than the ones that will later live under the mature trees, but visualizing all the steps is very hard. Think I'll start planting nut trees in the shade and then gradually prune up the overstory to pom pom top trees.

[DakiniMa]

Wonderful gardens, for 28 generations, that's is 3000 years not 300! This video totally aligns with the Ringing Cedars of Russia Anastsia book series, that tells of principles to save all mankind, & get us though this time of darkness. I urge anyone: start a garden, no matter how big or small, for however long one is in any place. Brings joy to me. I visualize working to create such a place with full intent to pass it down generation after generation to extended family for healing and love

[reverendcutterx]

28 generations is 3000 years? Do people in your family usually have children at the age of 107??

[jaysteinbourg]

my 98 year old great grandmother got pregnant but miscarried, it was in the newspapers at the time.

[thesetwofeet]

@jaysteinbourg, haha, still having fun @ 98

[Abnormalized]

I'm kind of awe-struck... I love that this exists in the world...

[ozosbourne1]

Oh, the Vietnamese have done this for thousands of years. Almost everywhere you go in Vietnam, if it's not been destroyed by wars, it's going to be like this.

I grew up with my grandparents and they had the same thing, but at a place about 100 miles North East of Hanoi.

[Abnormalized]

i'd love to just graze all day ;)

[HEYoREIDO]

did they have cannabis or opium?

[wayinoutreach]

For outdoor cannabis, look to northern California where they flourish illegally/legally? Quite the sight!! Try Aphganistan for the poppies!

[LocalBikeTrader]

Awesome footage many thanks

peace!

Johnny

[GreenLearning]

Wow, amazing garden! I only wish it would no take so many years to setup. Now Im kicking my self in the butt for not starting something like this 10 years ago! The future is the past.

[madeofyucca]

So start one now so you won't be kicking your self even harder 10 years from now! :)

[lightpower]

My family own these in Vietnam nothing special really its kinda common....

[NerdFangs]

well thats a good thing. this is cool

[thesimulacre]

Acknowledged, we are trying to get it to the point of "common sense" here in the states. Props to your fam for doing what makes sense, as weird as that sounds.

[zzz33333]

nothing special?!?!?!!?!?!?!!

excuse me????

most of us get our food from a big insanity-inducing warehouse called a "supermarket."

[punkrocksknot]

The Garden of Eden?

[quantumsolutions]

Oh, yes. This is the way of the future. Turning back to our former glory as natural beings.

Peace.

[ModernModr]

Word.

We've ravished any semblances of culture in our world only to realize that the people we oppressed and called "savages" held the answers to the natural balance of life.

[theAmbrosian]

right on comrade

[zzz33333]

sigh

[TheBerserker50]

@quantumsolutions sweet!

[Hyperchiller]

this is so awesome! I want one of those!

[pilomaya2012]

grow one!

[luv2bud]

The word "permaculture" was coined in the

1970's by Mollison et al., but the concept is based on traditional land uses, rooted in perennial polycultures, practiced by indigenous peoples, principally in tropical rainforests. Now we have temperate forest gardening, drylands permaculture, and many other variants. The old ways have been renewed, repackaged, and placed in the postmodern marketplace of ideas. We cyborgs still have much to (re)learn from our more deeply-rooted brethren and sistren.

[pilomaya2012]

yes but permerculture is ancient isnt it? as old as women and men!

someone else said to me how wonderful rudolf steiner was for descovering and bring to the world "biodynamic gardening". again its ancient. shall we connect to that ancient ness and do it again - i think so . the video makes me hingry in fact!

[lunatec2]

How can you rave about a place that keeps a poor little buck all alone in a dark cave so they can periodically cut off his antlers?! I think it's an abomination. With all the abundance of vegetables, fruits and herbs they have, why do they need to abuse these animals as well? I'm sorry, I think it's repulsive. I'd like to bust out that buck and that cow.

[irkone]

I agree - some sort of free range solution could be devised. I want a sea of guinea pigs mowing my grass, but they will easily escape. There is the issue of keeping the animal from getting loose.

Don't forget either about the factory farms and chicken batteries that exist in the industrial model which are, by far, more harmful and destitute places for animals to dwell within. And that's what we support every time we eat a hamburger or a chicken sandwich!

[lunatec2]

I'm vegan. And I have 3 litter trained house rabbits and a whole herd of wild deer that visit me daily. 8 raccoons do too. :) I love animals. Keeping them all alone in a tiny dark enclosure is unacceptable. That is a feeling sentient being in there. If it isn't good enough for us, why would it be good enough for them? It's painful to watch. Really. When will people see animals as worthy of our love and protection.

[irkone]

Glad to hear your money doesn't grow their modified beef and your stomach doesn't ingest their chemicals.

Are you telling me that you have never considered eating those house rabbits? If not, don't bother checking out the video titled "Eating Guinea Pigs."

[MakeItFunkey]

If the food forest has been passed on through 28 generations, wouldn't that be at least about 560 years? (1 gen approx. 20 years?)

[caifan111]

wow this is beautiful

I wish my family had a food forest somewhere lol

i would just chill there every couple of months and try exotic foods

[PermacultureSiam]

BTW - GR8 Video - Pondman, you're totally right about all the other stuff! :>)

[PermacultureSiam]

As I said, it's not a Permaculture garden "PER SE". Permaculture didn't exist until it was named such by Mollison in the Seventies. Anything prior to that may have looked like Permaculture, but by definition it wasn't!

[PermacultureSiam]

My original comment was a response to this from Overlander:

So is this a permaculture garden, or proof that agrarian societies may not need western permaculturist's to come in and tell them how to do things?

[pondman27]

From what I have learned about ancient cultures, many of them set their gardening activities by thinking in terms of a minimum of 7 generations.

To suggest that this is not a permaculture garden is in my humble opinion innaccurate. Why? because the key principle within Permaculture is that time and nature r the best teachers in understanding guilds (relationships between species).

The green revolution must include creating food & water autonomy within all urban envirnments.

Thanks 4 posting

[Ninyae1]

What is even more amazing is that it survived the invasion of the 60's and 70's!

[leightoncooke]

Amazing story and a great video. This is how we should live.

[davidfntau]

Fantastic video! A very important story!

[stonerj0e]

lets burn it down and plant palm oil trees to make biofuels!!!!

[flashtoons]

No - Quite the reverse. I should post an interesting video segment where Geoff is surrounded by Vietnamese students explaining to them how to mulch straw under a tree. He says to them that "that pall of black smoke you see hanging above your heads is due to farmers burning all their rubbish etc instead of mulching."

[overlander]

So is this a permaculture garden, or proof that agrarian societies may not need western permaculturist's to come in and tell them how to do things?

[cmurkar]

I think this is an example of what permaculturists strive to create.

Its true, not every culture farms unsustainably, but the majority do. So i think thats where permaculture advocates try to help. Also lots of cultures have abandoned their traditional agriculture for the 'green revolution' that is now destroying their food supply. They often need help transitioning back to their traditional ways.

[PermacultureSiam]

This is not a Permaculture garden per se! Permaculture Designers place an element within a system it is because it serves many useful functions, not because Grandpa said "do it like that"! Vietnam is not an agrarian society; but a well developed country with most people living in oil fuelled cities. It is an anathema to Permaculture Practitioners to tell people how to "do things". They try humbly to offer tried and tested design methodologies whilst remaining culturally sensitive.

[PermacultureSiam]

This is not a Permaculture garden per se! Permaculture Designers place an element within a system it is because it serves many useful functions, not because Grandpa said "do it like that"! Vietnam is not an agrarian society; but a well developed country with most people living in oil fuelled cities. It is an anathema to Permaculture Practitioners to tell people how to "do things". They try humbly to offer tried and tested design methodologies whilst remaining culturally sensitive.

[danbuck333]

thanks for posting

[danbuck333]

any chance of more videos with this bloke

[cmurkar]

'Greening the desert' is a good one

they also just released 'Harvesting water: the permaculture way' there are some clips of that here on youtube.

Cheers

[danbuck333]

yeah ive seen those thats why i want to see more