Had to read this a few times to make sense of what you are saying. Punctuation and proper sentences would really help you get your message across instead of disjointed drivel. Sorry to be so blunt but someone needs to tell you.
you seem to hate korea u motherfucker. Go home fat faggot...go to CANADA where everything is perfect, no racism, every one is lovely and friendly, where there is not prostitution and crimes. U seem to be particularly obsessed with korean prostitution, and looks like u have used their services every day. Why don't u complain about the huge child pornography problem in japan or the 10 million prostitutes in china? uh? u racist redneck!!!! GO HOME FAT LOSER.
@wjvwhw we should hate korea as they have a giant nuclear stock pile that would turn america into a nuclear wasteland with a rad rating thats off the chart.
With ignatieff as the new leader of the Liberals the Tories cant attack him as they did with Dion because of the crisis at hand. Harper cant call another election because the country cant afford it and voters will get mad. Tories are pretty much done in Quebec and Atlantic Canada. Latest economic reports suggests that Canada will run 30 billion dollar deficit next year. Do you know how pissed off Canadians are? The 2% GST cut was a gammick.Haper is wishing he never cut the GST.
Conservatives in general are horrible in handling the economy. Most Canadians will agree that Liberal are more better at handling issues important to Canadians. Harper squandered the contingency fund Martin and Chretien left behind that would cushion Canada from going into a deficit in hard times. Canadians here a pissed off at Harper.Conservatives hopes are finished in Quebec. Liberals are creeping back and Albertans are mad at Harper because he is spending money he doesnt have.
Thank you for this rant. It felt good to hear some of the facts instead of neo-Con hate speech. People love Obama for his bi-partisanship but when our opposition parties put aside their political differences to form a deal to help Canadians through what is going to be the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression, they think it's wrong. Duped by the neo-Cons once again.
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No, the people when they voted, they assumed that the party they vote for would be PM.
The PEOPLE of Canada have said they don't want Dion as Prime Minister.
They are trying to take away the people vote on WHO runs the country.
Canada VOTED FOR HARPER, doesn't matter if it is minority, pin,blue,yellow,green.
Now if they gave people a chance to vote and they vote for this coalition. I would be fine with it. But they are trying to take power without being chosen by the PEOPLE.
No, the Conservatives didn't get enough votes to form a majority government and couldn't form a coalition. So Canadians didn't really vote for a Torie government or they would have had a majority.
If you pulled your head out of your ass you might have noticed that. Now clean yourself up and get a life.
You don't vote for a Prime Minister, nor do you choose any party as the new government, YOU VOTE FOR AN MP IN YOUR RIDING - that's all. Ask the governement to change this system if it's not to your liking, but don't distort the reality.
Now, a majority of ELECTED MPs are willing to put their disagreements aside in order to form a government that better represents the voters. To me, that sounds a lot more democratic than having a non-elected Vice Queen let a minority maintain itself in power.
Rae in Ontario - All 10 New Democrat MPs from Ontario lost their seats 3 years after the people saw what the NDP could do. In 1991 they proposed social programs that would create a $9.1 billion deficit.
The Bloc: THEY'RE SEPARATISTS!! It's complete BS that the Conservatives could have a majority government if you eliminated the separatist party.
As I have said, I have a lot of trouble with the idea of forming a coalition with the BQ. Didn't like it when the Tories did it and I don't like it now.
What irks me is the Tories acting as if it isn't something they have done in the past and people falling for the BS.
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judging by what i can see and hear you are someone who needs constant govt assistance and intervention in their life, so i am not surprised by your support of a coalition that will bankrupt this country just so people like you can get your handouts...Free The West!
Also it is you that is childish and hypocritical.Could you tell me how many canadians actually voted for the coalition party? 0% you might argue they have 60% of the votes because combination of these three parties do have 60% but canada did not voted for individual parties. and please tell me, how many candidates do BQ have outside of Quebec?none. so yes, it is outrageous. but without BQ they could not overthrow Conservatives. why? because canadians voted Harper for PM. prove me wrong.
Do you know anything about Canadian Politics? The ONLY reason Harper was asked to form the government was because he had the most MPs, but not a majority. IF he is unable to form it then the Governor General can ask the next party (next with MPs) to try and form a party. While rarely used this has been part of our political system since Canada was founded.
Governor general is also allowed to call an election, which she should. and also why did harper have the most MPs? I wonder, because canadians across canada felt that Dion, Duccepp or Layton was unable to run this nation through economic crisis. Also MP seat wise, without BQ there would be no coalition as NDPcombined with the Liberals couldnt overtake the Conservatives. and lets see.. BQ as i said before does not care for the interests of rest of canada other than Quebec.
Can't argue with you about the Bloc. But the GG doesn't HAVE to call an election they have the option of asking the next party to form a government.
Mind you if it wasn't for the Bloc Harper's previous minority government would not have survived.
I don't think they should be pissing and moaning about actions they (their party) have taken in the past. If it was ok for the Tories (and I don't remember hearing any Tories complaining then) they should suck it up now. They set the precedent.
actually formal precedent was 91 years ago by the liberals. also youre right GG doesnt have to call an election, i was just saying for this to be democratic, there should be another election, considering that no one voted for the coalition but for individual parties that form it. and by you saying you cant argue with me about the blocs you just discredited the coalition. without BQ element, coalition would not exist.
So, should I assume that when the Tories formed their minority government with the BQ backing you were against it? You were vocal about your outrage? When Harper tried to form a coalition in 2004 you were vocal about your outrage? Or did you silently accept it because they are your party? (Sorry, I am making another assumption there, you never said anything about supporting a party.)
I think those people (tories) now whining should STF since they didn't mind when the Tories acted the same way.
I actually did, i used to be a liberal believe it or not. After all the fuck ups Liberals did since Jean Chrestian era, i would rather see how fiscal conservatives would handle this economic crisis. i do admit it is very hypocritical. but im sure we can all agree most politicians are hypocritical.
oh? did you vote for the coalition party? i didnt know that was an option in the ballot? what im saying is not that no one would vote for it, but no one formally voted for such thing so what im saying is another election should take place in order for proper democratic process to happen. thats all.
Thats not how you vote in a coalition. Look at other nations with the same parliamentary system as ours and you will see coalitions are not that uncommon. When you vote you vote for individual MPS who choose a person to be prime minister. You do not choose the prime minister.
Furthermore, we DON'T VOTE FOR THE PM. It isn't like the US elections. We vote for our candidate and their party leader becomes PM. While some may vote for a candidate because they like the party leader they are not voting on the leader per se. The ONLY people voting for the party leader directly are his constituents.
are you kidding me, Dion himself said he would never make a coalition with NDP. tell me whos more hypocritical. whos the crybabies, after about two months of conservatives, these leaders cannot cope with the fact no one voted for them to be PM. so whos the crybaby. and as for paul martin time, Harper did not try to form a formal coalition. Also, while this is not unconstitutional it is very undemocratic.
Sorry but reality doesn't agree with you. Harper DID try and form a coalition to oust Martin. In 2004 he sent a letter to the then GG Clarkson asking that she turn to him to form a government if Martin's was defeated.
Harper wrote "We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together constitute a majority in the House, have been in close consultation. We believe that, should a request for dissolution arise this should give you cause, as constitutional practice has determined, to consult the opposition leaders and consider all of your options before exercising your constitutional authority."
Anything that gets Harper out of office is good. He's a little George W. Bush style fascist. A silver spoon fed trust fund baby that hates the working class and does everything in his power to bring this country down. What we need is someone who will get us the fuck out of the middle east. Someone who will invest heavily in our infrastructure. Force the car companies to manufacture hybrid and electric vehicles. We MUST cut off trading to slave labour countries like Mexico, China and India.
Many do not like her, but she speaks the truth. And the message in the clip attached is exactly what this is all about. Canada will not be the Canada our founders recognized, long ago, if people continue to endorse Harper.
/watch?v=pIMkUHGZk-g
Please, be objective when viewing it...She sums up everything, without the distortion.
Coalition just say no Harper is good for us I will vote for Harper all the time
watchop 3 years ago
Had to read this a few times to make sense of what you are saying. Punctuation and proper sentences would really help you get your message across instead of disjointed drivel. Sorry to be so blunt but someone needs to tell you.
Flint133 3 years ago
you seem to hate korea u motherfucker. Go home fat faggot...go to CANADA where everything is perfect, no racism, every one is lovely and friendly, where there is not prostitution and crimes. U seem to be particularly obsessed with korean prostitution, and looks like u have used their services every day. Why don't u complain about the huge child pornography problem in japan or the 10 million prostitutes in china? uh? u racist redneck!!!! GO HOME FAT LOSER.
wjvwhw 2 years ago
@wjvwhw we should hate korea as they have a giant nuclear stock pile that would turn america into a nuclear wasteland with a rad rating thats off the chart.
keozeo 7 months ago
How do you feel about Harper staying in power because of the help of the Bloc now?
Flint133 2 years ago
With ignatieff as the new leader of the Liberals the Tories cant attack him as they did with Dion because of the crisis at hand. Harper cant call another election because the country cant afford it and voters will get mad. Tories are pretty much done in Quebec and Atlantic Canada. Latest economic reports suggests that Canada will run 30 billion dollar deficit next year. Do you know how pissed off Canadians are? The 2% GST cut was a gammick.Haper is wishing he never cut the GST.
supablackman 3 years ago 2
And Ignatieff is helping prop up the Tories. Politics continues while the economy is in the shitter. :(
Flint133 3 years ago
Conservatives in general are horrible in handling the economy. Most Canadians will agree that Liberal are more better at handling issues important to Canadians. Harper squandered the contingency fund Martin and Chretien left behind that would cushion Canada from going into a deficit in hard times. Canadians here a pissed off at Harper.Conservatives hopes are finished in Quebec. Liberals are creeping back and Albertans are mad at Harper because he is spending money he doesnt have.
supablackman 3 years ago 2
Thank you for this rant. It felt good to hear some of the facts instead of neo-Con hate speech. People love Obama for his bi-partisanship but when our opposition parties put aside their political differences to form a deal to help Canadians through what is going to be the worst economic disaster since the Great Depression, they think it's wrong. Duped by the neo-Cons once again.
Rashiran 3 years ago
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No, the people when they voted, they assumed that the party they vote for would be PM.
The PEOPLE of Canada have said they don't want Dion as Prime Minister.
They are trying to take away the people vote on WHO runs the country.
Canada VOTED FOR HARPER, doesn't matter if it is minority, pin,blue,yellow,green.
Now if they gave people a chance to vote and they vote for this coalition. I would be fine with it. But they are trying to take power without being chosen by the PEOPLE.
That is the issue.
snake2006 3 years ago
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Hey captain fatass.... put the burger down! get a life... the Canadian people voted for a conservative government, not a coalition.
thebrewhouse 3 years ago
No, the Conservatives didn't get enough votes to form a majority government and couldn't form a coalition. So Canadians didn't really vote for a Torie government or they would have had a majority.
If you pulled your head out of your ass you might have noticed that. Now clean yourself up and get a life.
Flint133 3 years ago
You don't vote for a Prime Minister, nor do you choose any party as the new government, YOU VOTE FOR AN MP IN YOUR RIDING - that's all. Ask the governement to change this system if it's not to your liking, but don't distort the reality.
Now, a majority of ELECTED MPs are willing to put their disagreements aside in order to form a government that better represents the voters. To me, that sounds a lot more democratic than having a non-elected Vice Queen let a minority maintain itself in power.
gnagnafrog 3 years ago 2
My comment is as an answer to thebrewhouse. For some reason, it doesn't appear in the same tread.
gnagnafrog 3 years ago
Ok, Harper is being a hyporcrite.
Let's look at the NDP's record:
Rae in Ontario - All 10 New Democrat MPs from Ontario lost their seats 3 years after the people saw what the NDP could do. In 1991 they proposed social programs that would create a $9.1 billion deficit.
The Bloc: THEY'RE SEPARATISTS!! It's complete BS that the Conservatives could have a majority government if you eliminated the separatist party.
ScotterS69 3 years ago
As I have said, I have a lot of trouble with the idea of forming a coalition with the BQ. Didn't like it when the Tories did it and I don't like it now.
What irks me is the Tories acting as if it isn't something they have done in the past and people falling for the BS.
Flint133 3 years ago
And now the Bloc is KEEPING harper in power. Didn't he say having their help was bad? Wrong? Doesn't this make him a hypocrite?
Flint133 2 years ago
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Dude... stop eating!
masoncgy 3 years ago
That is the best you can do? What a waste of bandwidth. Do the world a favour and stop breathing.
Flint133 3 years ago
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judging by what i can see and hear you are someone who needs constant govt assistance and intervention in their life, so i am not surprised by your support of a coalition that will bankrupt this country just so people like you can get your handouts...Free The West!
cmxxtreme 3 years ago
Judging by what I see and hear you are an asshat who doesn't really know what he is talking about.
Freed the West! indeed. Free it from the stupidity of idiots like you.
Flint133 3 years ago
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Don't kid yourselves people Harper will waste another $400M to do it all over again if it is in his own interests...
Now how about a reality check here, how about Mr. Harpon... putting that money into our economy instead of his political career?
go to this...
causes . ca/coalition
SIGN THIS PETITION and FORWARD TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW TO GET RID OF HARPER AND HIS ARROGANT, POMPOUS, SELF SERVING DICTATORSHIP...
ROXYLUCY 3 years ago
Don't kid yourselves people Harper will waste another $400M to do it all over again if it is in his own interests...
Now how about a reality check here, how about Mr. Harpon... putting that money into our economy instead of his political career?
go to this...
causes . ca/coalition
SIGN THIS PETITION and FORWARD TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW TO GET RID OF HARPER AND HIS ARROGANT, POMPOUS, SELF SERVING DICTATORSHIP...
ROXYLUCY 3 years ago
Also it is you that is childish and hypocritical.Could you tell me how many canadians actually voted for the coalition party? 0% you might argue they have 60% of the votes because combination of these three parties do have 60% but canada did not voted for individual parties. and please tell me, how many candidates do BQ have outside of Quebec?none. so yes, it is outrageous. but without BQ they could not overthrow Conservatives. why? because canadians voted Harper for PM. prove me wrong.
Junnernator 3 years ago
Do you know anything about Canadian Politics? The ONLY reason Harper was asked to form the government was because he had the most MPs, but not a majority. IF he is unable to form it then the Governor General can ask the next party (next with MPs) to try and form a party. While rarely used this has been part of our political system since Canada was founded.
Flint133 3 years ago
Governor general is also allowed to call an election, which she should. and also why did harper have the most MPs? I wonder, because canadians across canada felt that Dion, Duccepp or Layton was unable to run this nation through economic crisis. Also MP seat wise, without BQ there would be no coalition as NDPcombined with the Liberals couldnt overtake the Conservatives. and lets see.. BQ as i said before does not care for the interests of rest of canada other than Quebec.
Junnernator 3 years ago
Can't argue with you about the Bloc. But the GG doesn't HAVE to call an election they have the option of asking the next party to form a government.
Mind you if it wasn't for the Bloc Harper's previous minority government would not have survived.
I don't think they should be pissing and moaning about actions they (their party) have taken in the past. If it was ok for the Tories (and I don't remember hearing any Tories complaining then) they should suck it up now. They set the precedent.
Flint133 3 years ago
actually formal precedent was 91 years ago by the liberals. also youre right GG doesnt have to call an election, i was just saying for this to be democratic, there should be another election, considering that no one voted for the coalition but for individual parties that form it. and by you saying you cant argue with me about the blocs you just discredited the coalition. without BQ element, coalition would not exist.
Junnernator 3 years ago
Thanks, I never knew I was that powerful. What I think discredits something completely. Man the Tories are in Trouble. :)
Flint133 3 years ago
So, should I assume that when the Tories formed their minority government with the BQ backing you were against it? You were vocal about your outrage? When Harper tried to form a coalition in 2004 you were vocal about your outrage? Or did you silently accept it because they are your party? (Sorry, I am making another assumption there, you never said anything about supporting a party.)
I think those people (tories) now whining should STF since they didn't mind when the Tories acted the same way.
Flint133 3 years ago
I actually did, i used to be a liberal believe it or not. After all the fuck ups Liberals did since Jean Chrestian era, i would rather see how fiscal conservatives would handle this economic crisis. i do admit it is very hypocritical. but im sure we can all agree most politicians are hypocritical.
Junnernator 3 years ago 5
@Junnernator
Sorry for voting down your comment, I meant to vote up and missed the button. :(
Orioles1997 1 year ago
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Okay, NOW I didn't miss the Vote Up button.
Orioles1997 1 year ago
Why do you say nobody voted for a coalition? When I voted I understood a coalition was a possibility.
whiskers123 3 years ago 4
oh? did you vote for the coalition party? i didnt know that was an option in the ballot? what im saying is not that no one would vote for it, but no one formally voted for such thing so what im saying is another election should take place in order for proper democratic process to happen. thats all.
Junnernator 3 years ago
Thats not how you vote in a coalition. Look at other nations with the same parliamentary system as ours and you will see coalitions are not that uncommon. When you vote you vote for individual MPS who choose a person to be prime minister. You do not choose the prime minister.
whiskers123 3 years ago 5
Some people don't seem to understand how the system works.
Flint133 3 years ago
Furthermore, we DON'T VOTE FOR THE PM. It isn't like the US elections. We vote for our candidate and their party leader becomes PM. While some may vote for a candidate because they like the party leader they are not voting on the leader per se. The ONLY people voting for the party leader directly are his constituents.
Flint133 3 years ago
are you kidding me, Dion himself said he would never make a coalition with NDP. tell me whos more hypocritical. whos the crybabies, after about two months of conservatives, these leaders cannot cope with the fact no one voted for them to be PM. so whos the crybaby. and as for paul martin time, Harper did not try to form a formal coalition. Also, while this is not unconstitutional it is very undemocratic.
Junnernator 3 years ago
That would make Dion a hypocrite too then. Can't argue with that.
Flint133 3 years ago
Sorry but reality doesn't agree with you. Harper DID try and form a coalition to oust Martin. In 2004 he sent a letter to the then GG Clarkson asking that she turn to him to form a government if Martin's was defeated.
Flint133 3 years ago
Harper wrote "We respectfully point out that the opposition parties, who together constitute a majority in the House, have been in close consultation. We believe that, should a request for dissolution arise this should give you cause, as constitutional practice has determined, to consult the opposition leaders and consider all of your options before exercising your constitutional authority."
Flint133 3 years ago
Anything that gets Harper out of office is good. He's a little George W. Bush style fascist. A silver spoon fed trust fund baby that hates the working class and does everything in his power to bring this country down. What we need is someone who will get us the fuck out of the middle east. Someone who will invest heavily in our infrastructure. Force the car companies to manufacture hybrid and electric vehicles. We MUST cut off trading to slave labour countries like Mexico, China and India.
CTM1978 3 years ago 4
Many do not like her, but she speaks the truth. And the message in the clip attached is exactly what this is all about. Canada will not be the Canada our founders recognized, long ago, if people continue to endorse Harper.
/watch?v=pIMkUHGZk-g
Please, be objective when viewing it...She sums up everything, without the distortion.
samiraiken 3 years ago 3
u like that shirt alot eh lol
cafekawaii 3 years ago 5
heh...it is my comfort/bum around the apartment shirt. :)
Flint133 3 years ago