Russian Makarov Pistol Holster - EFA-2

[BuddhaCris69]

where can i buy this holster?

[D4rkL3610N]

is there a holster like this for a mk 23 socom or ss226 ?

[FiveTwoSevenTHR]

@D4rkL3610N Why would you want a holster like this? 

[D4rkL3610N]

@FiveTwoSevenTHR do i really need to explain why i would need a holster like this ?

[FiveTwoSevenTHR]

@D4rkL3610N Yes, I see no need for this holster except for novelty or you're in the Israeli military.

[D4rkL3610N]

@FiveTwoSevenTHR na im a canadian citizen and it would be usefull for shooting competitions when you have to start with your weapon holstered when you start

[FiveTwoSevenTHR]

@D4rkL3610N Then start chambered and use a regular holster. It's faster and more natural for the body to move like that.

[D4rkL3610N]

@FiveTwoSevenTHR now its just a matter of opinion

[FiveTwoSevenTHR]

@D4rkL3610N It's a matter of how the human body moves. If that type of draw was better, why is this the only holster featuring it?

[thud0R]

but will it blend?

[MeRussianPatriot]

Beautiful!

[123chaseyoung]

Russians always create the best looking guns and gadgets around

[Maldavan1995]

ak47 is not the same as stg. it may look similar but the design are completely different.

[williamjpiano]

What if this thing slam fires? looks pretty unsafe and I rather carry a gun with chamber loaded.

[Skilledman89]

does it work for MAKAROV PMM also ? 

[TheScoobNoob]

Dear Santa, for Christmas I would like...

[CIXCO777]

Excelente!

[ra0cfm]

Где купить?

[TheBebop51]

I noticed the holster has a hole in the side where the ejector is. Is this one of those special guns that can be impromptuly fired without drawing it? 'Cause got a leather belt-clip holster for a .38 special that leaves the hammer, trigger, and muzzle exposed so in case of an emergency you just point it and start shooting.

[AdmiralGST]

@TheBebop51 They were trained to carry unchambered and to draw pushing down to chamber the gun. In combat where you revert to your training, they push down. If they used the gun and reholstered it with it chambered, it allows them to still draw like they are trained instead of the gun getting jammed in the holster.

[heiyake]

easy for you to use, just as easy for one to use against you. HAHA

[SuperSteveoSwag]

damn thats friggin awesome! and such a good idea!

[Gunthings2do]

очень изобретательный матери России

[xzx1990xzx]

@Gunthings2do Tell me you used Google Translate? or something? =)

[Gunthings2do]

@xzx1990xzx Yes I did. Да я и сделал.

[queefus]

Thiz iz Epic win! Opulence, straight from Mother Russia....jump in it! Ha!  Ha! Ha!

[DudeYourSoBK]

Now in every Russian happy meal.

[renzokata]

i see how it works, when you push it through the holster, a mechanism is attached to the slide and pulls it, releasing the safety and making it live upon drawing the weapon. NICE!!!!

[gosciu555]

I donno seems flimsy.

[RAINMAN22TP]

OMG WHERE CAN I BUY THIS???

[kcimb]

Looks like a 75% disability and long lines at the Veteran's affairs for Ivan there.

[piddydog]

Fast!!!

[sukiari]

I love that he has his finger on the trigger, too.

Safety first!

[arkancrawl]

WANT!



[senioralatriste]

@arkancrawl do u know if they sell them in the states

[senioralatriste]

@arkancrawl try "getrussiangear" they are the official retailer of the hosters in the states

[senioralatriste]

@arkancrawl try "getrussiangear" they are the official retailer of the hosters in the states!

google their website and u will find the hosters for the makarov and for other handguns

[arkancrawl]

WANT!

[Dmajorproductions]

glock would make something to the tune of this.

[lith324]

I WANT ONE!!

[mashurov30d]

в экстренной ситуации без штанов можно остаться, но идея интересная

[Ispoil4yuN1]

russians are so cool

[trains457]

cocked locked and ready to rock

[esh325]

I wonder what do you do when you want to holster it again? Unload the pistol and put a loaded mag back in?

[faismasterx]

Hm. How did I NOT get one of these?

[BeanDip0913]

how is this pointless? it's great for concealed carry or a quick draw

[AdmiralGST]

@BeanDip0913 The gun is safe to carry with one in the chamber, thats why. Makes a great novelty though.

[juanguita]

and bye bye lower limb!!

[john0805]

Pointless??? Have you even seen the way the spetsnaz train? How they move? They are awesome! Quick draw pistol and the ballistic knife are two amazing pieces of brain work.

[irishhammer8719]

its not really pointless considering it was made for the solviet spetsnaz and was desined for a quick draw and with the style of training that they where given it is not pointless

[Bl0odVomit]

Damn you good at that

[hellfire2638]

besides a bb gun

[hellfire2638]

i have the holster but wat can of pistol should i get just for injury not killing

[gunut4FMJ]

Interesting holster, but pointless.

[Bl0odVomit]

@gunut4FMJ not so much

[dauph59]

I checked with the manufacturer last year and was told they were longer available. I'd sure like to find one!

[JohnTheRipper723]

perfect for if you in a dangerous area and can conceal carry or if your in a warzone. otherwise it's just badass.

[mrjimbeam2009]

fuck thats sweet

[koolaidman007]

I wish I could get once of these, they're very expensive holsters. Cheapest I found was 66 Pounds. Now imagine shipping that across the pond.

[Yaros001]

За Россию!

[diescheize11]

god damn it russia........

[c32amgftw]

Russians always have genius, yet simple and effective ideas.

[senioralatriste]

@c32amgftw thats definitly true!

[davism4a1]

@c32amgftw when they arent completely copying another design

[c32amgftw]

@davism4a1 Could you please be more specific about "completely copying another design"?

[davism4a1]

@c32amgftw mig fighters, the ak, the makarov, all reverse engineered copies

[gosciu555]

@davism4a1

???? hahahahahahahah. Maybe T-72 is a copy too?

[davism4a1]

@gosciu555 dont think so, i like russian weapons, ak, mak, but in general they arent very inventive, the 5.45x39 only exists because we went to 5.56/.223 and i happen to think the 5.45 to be the better round. being un inventive has its plus, if it aint broke dont fix it, copy it

[762HB]

@davism4a1 great comment.

[davism4a1]

@762HB thanx



[varanid9]

@davism4a1 They are quite inventive; The russians put the 1st man into space, developed the 1st PDW round, invented vector-thrust on fighterplanes, developed 1st passive NVD, etc. Just that they are practical enough not to reinvent the wheel for ego's sake if someone else has already done the work. The AN94 would be the finest assault rifle ever if they had the funds to perfect it. We (U.S.) recently tried to buy a russian tank defense system, but they wouldn't sell. BTW, they won WW2.

[c32amgftw]

@davism4a1 How are they reverse engineered copies exactly? And copies of what?

Sounds like someone has a case of inferiority complex

[davism4a1]

@c32amgftw naw i love russian weapons, the makarov was a copy off the walther ppk. The AK came from the stg-44, and i cant remember which mig fighter it was that they copied from one of our fighters. Russian weapons are badass, they take something that is already known to work and they put there spin on it

[Unit987654321]

@davism4a1 Well if you say the AK came from STG 44, then you might as well say all assault rifles came from STG because it was the first assault rifle. However, the designs of those weapons are entirely different.

[lavriccat2011]

@davism4a1 Yes.. AK came from the stg-44..I agree.

But tell me, where Springfieldl 03(rifle) came from? Is it copy of 98k?

And Colt 1911.. who designed it? Some american or Comrade Browning?

[Passcase2]

@davism4a1 you should do some thorough homework on your claims

[VoidOnTuesday]

@c32amgftw like communism???? I'm reporting you motherfucker.

[SmelDiferenToMidget]

@VoidOnTuesday Im reporting you for being an inbreed asshole who had no education and says it invented capitalism(wich it didnt, and by the way capitalism sucks) that steals everyones ideas and claims as their one. STFU retard

80% of the world hates you, even in other NATO countries, and yes i have lived in Nato countries(2 actually)

[VoidOnTuesday]

@SmelDiferenToMidget lol

[wikieditspam]

@c32amgftw What like para-scopes on an anti tank fighter bomber?

[Skilledman89]

@c32amgftw don't worry soon Americans will copy it. and make it more fancy probably with some fancy attachment

[KravistDillonT]

Caught it on Deadliest Warrior, and I gotta say, I LOVE it!

Hopefully someone else will catch on and pop em out for the G22

[AdmiralGST]

@KravistDillonT There is no real point to this holster. Not feeling safe carrying a modern gun WITHOUT a round in the chamber is a training gap.

[makun16]

@AdmiralGST AGREED!!

[esh325]

@AdmiralGST Defenetely.

[AdmiralGST]

@KravistDillonT Why would you want a holster like this? Its called chamber a round, works better.

[AzNgiftedkid]

Hmm.........when will everyone else start copying this? I hope it doesn't.......

[josh4380]

This is a tactical dream!!! But yeah this can be completely unsafe for your typical redneck shooting range enthusiast.

[esh325]

It's a pointless invention. The Makarov is a safe pistol to carry around with a round in the chamber.

[f0nz4r3ll1]

Saw this on Deadliest Warrior and thought it was awesome. Wish Ruger made one of these for my 9mm.

[k7z7]

maybe that's why for the demonstration they use a co2 (MP654k) gun and not a real makarov.

[LaRueDeeko]

Just chamber a round, put it on safe and decock and you're good to go.

This holster has a safe train of thought....but bad logic.

[TheChubbyKid]

That is really smart, holy crap that is awesome.

[sensibudz]

Thats pretty sweet!

[exer45]

thats sweet

[bowhuffer86]

and i'm not trying to snub the vid or holster....i have a mak i just prefer it hot in my fobus

[bowhuffer86]

if its in a holster it should already be lockd n loaded....in a shoot out if you had to do that- there's opportunity for you to mess up...you dont have time to mess up in that situation, other than that its pretty cool

[hubris777]

*additional snarky comment belittling the video even though I've never fired a gun in my life!* :D

[858casper858]

One Word- WIN

[croscoe85]

Cool!!!

[PetrolClock]

that holster would be pretty cool looking if i was tin man

[rayscar2]

Where can I find one of those holsters?

[ChopsMaster1]

@rayscar2 They are made by a company in Moscow called EFA, they are made to order ONLY, and are made for only the Makarov series pistols. They will, however custom make them for any pistol on the market. Prices vary based on many things and can run as low as $200, if you wish to have one made for an other pistol than the Makarov it will cost much more. the one for my Glock 17 cost $1500.

[ChopsMaster1]

@rayscar2 if you Google EFA-2004, it should give you there website

[WardenWolf]

For those of you worried about drop safety, the Makarov has a hammer block that is tied to the trigger. The hammer cannot move forward to contact the firing pin without the trigger being pulled. I have tested this on my own Makarov and verified it works, and works very well. This pistol is completely drop safe.

[AdmiralGST]

carrying a quality gun without a round in the chamber unless you have a holster like this is a training gap. unless you have a Type 94, your gun should not fire on its own in the holster.

[label3131]

that holster is cool but looks like ass lol i still wont one tho

[JCTheSniper15]

That's kinda cool, but I think it's unnecessary. I carry my G19 with a round chambered, and there is no safety lever.

You could do the same with the Makarov, as the double action pull will prevent the pistol from firing easily.

Sooo..... neat, but an addition of complexity that I think is useless.

[taeim43]

Ok, where do you get one of those if your in the USA?

[Treblaine]

Why bother having the safety on AND and an empty chamber?

Why not leave the safety off?

[roddy666mc]

Always have the safety on with a full magazine until you are ready to fire.

Only chamber a round when you are ready to fire.

Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire.

Never point a loaded gun at another person, even with the safety on, even with an empty chamber.

You didn't pay enough attention when learning gun safety, so you won't pay enough attention to your weapon, and you'll forget you loaded a round, then you'll blow someone's head off.

I just saved your life.

[Treblaine]

@roddy666mc

I don't think you did, I live in Britain where all semi automatic weapons and pistols are banned.

I was asking purely out of curiosity.

And I'm sorry but I am aware of Jeff Cooper's 4 golden rules of firearms safety:

1. always treat gun as loaded

2. muzzle point only at what you want to kill

3. finger off trigger till sights on target

4. identify target + downrange before firing.

You just made up that "golden rule" that the safety must always be active. Revolvers lack a safety.

[roddy666mc]

There are many more safety rules than the four you just listed or the four I did. For example another would be: don't shoot at hard surfaces.

Unless ready to shoot, the safety should always be on, when the weapon is on the table, in a holster, or in your hands. Guns are not safe. Guns have been known to fire when the safety is still on, or even as the safety is disabled. They could also fire without the trigger being pulled. It is an extra layer of security that prevents accidental discharges.

[Treblaine]

@roddy666mc

Well safety-catches are hardly an absolute "NEVER BREAK" rule due to how so many weapons lack safety catches or the catches are unreliable.

There's sensible and sane levels of gun safety but having "condition 3" with the safety on seems like wearing two condoms... kinda unnecessary "extra layer".

I have done some shooting and my instructor never once relied on a safety catch, as that thin piece of metal gives a false sense of security. Safe ONLY with an open/un-loaded breach.

[roddy666mc]

You can never be too careful with a gun. Anyone who thinks they can clearly doesn't respect their weapons enough.

It's the same as using any dangerous equipment, be it industrial vehicles, heavy machinery, powertools. If you don't respect your equipment, you're gonna fuck up and get someone injured or killed.

[Treblaine]

@roddy666mc

Well with the chamber empty please name a scenario where the weapon could accidentally fire and had the safety been on it would not have accidentally discharged.

This just seems like a point of failure, this holster may fail to disengage the safety and screw up a draw and get you killed... in a combat situation.

Jeff Cooper, the father of modern firearm safety considered "Condition three" loaded, un-chambered with safety off; to be safe for carry.

[roddy666mc]

If your rounds start cooking off, no safety is going to stop it. However, because of its design, an open-bolt weapon will fire with the chamber empty. That's one situation where a safety would help prevent accidental discharge. Although that's for rifles or machine-pistols.

I'm not trying to defend this holster. I'd never seen it until this video. And as for combat situations, British army doctrine is to keep the safety on until given the order to fire. But that has more to do with discipline.

[Treblaine]

@roddy666mc

You are taking British army doctrine in isolation, doctrine also says weapons at hand are always to be fully loaded i.e. a chambered round.

and this pistol if NOT an open bolt design, I was obviously referring to this pistol in THIS type of holster.

Many armies use "condition three" due to the long history of weak safety catches on many pistol designs, e.g. the Israeli armed forces don't bother with safety catch but draw + cock slide.

[roddy666mc]

Why would you treat different guns differently? Every gun should be treated as if it is just waiting to accidentally kill you. The type, calibre, operation, ammunition capacity, none of this should make any difference. Following all the rules is simple discipline, and not following them is simple laziness.

[Treblaine]

@roddy666mc

Well, you should treat different guns differently because... they ARE different.

I'm not talking calibre, but method of operation.

I am also not speaking from the perspective of a recreational shooter but from someone interested in military history.

This is a military holster and in a military context where people who are trying to kill you, one must balance safety precautions with combat effectiveness.

But for recreational civilian shooting, I guess your rule is reasonable.

[JCTheSniper15]

No gun is waiting to kill you, nor should it be treated as such. It is a tool, nothing more. It should be treated with respect and handled properly, but not treated like a highly unstable bomb waiting to go off.

[JCTheSniper15]

Agreed. Though I would carry a Mak with a round chambered, hammer down, and safety off.

[AreThereNoMoreNames]

You should never carry hammer down on a loaded chamber. Something could put enough pressure on the hammer to compress the primer, and cause a negligent discharge.

Rather, the half-cock position should be used, to keep the hammer from being in a position where it could be pressed against the firing pin, and to insure that the sear cannot readily release the hammer should the trigger be inadvertently pulled, or the firearm jarred.

[JCTheSniper15]

That would work, except for the fact that there is no half-cock position on a Makarov. And if there were a half cock position, the trigger would still work, since the Mak has a double action trigger. Also, the Makarov has a free floating firing pin, and it has passed California's DOJ drop safety tests, which tests to see if the gun will fire when dropped barrel first on a steel plate. So there is very little chance of accidentally firing the weapon with the hammer down.

[AreThereNoMoreNames]

Some of them seem to, but a competent smith can add a half-cock notch to most pistols if there isn't one. And it'd still have a heavier first trigger pull to prevent a negligent discharge.

Now, I'm not intimately familiar with Makarovs, but if the hammer is down and capable of touching the firing pin, it's a dangerous situation in any firearm with an exposed hammer, regardless of drop safety tests. The free-floating firing pin makes it a bit more dangerous, as there's less resistance.

[JCTheSniper15]

But if you put the hammer at half-cock, then you don't have to pull the trigger as far in order for the weapon to fire, so there is more of a chance of accidental discharge that way.

As long as you don't hit the hammer fairly hard, there isn't much chance of firing that way.

Basically, it seems like you're lessening the chance of one discharge, and increasing another.

I'd feel safer with the hammer down, but to each his own I suppose.

[JCTheSniper15]

Oh, and the Mak may seem to have a half-cock sometimes, but I wouldn't try leaving it there, as it won't hold there securely, and it's likely to let the hammer drop. Of course, only dropping halfway may not ignite the primer, but it would make me nervous.

[smoraptor]

Yeah so best advice would be to not chamber a round before you put it in the holster?

[AreThereNoMoreNames]

Only problem then is that you'd need to chamber a round when you draw, which can take far too much precious time when you really need your pistol.

[TasuLife]

Not sure about the mak, but the cz82 will block the hammer from contacting the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled. You can literally push the hammer forward and it will not connect.

[AdmiralGST]

the half cock position is not meant for carry.

[gunut4FMJ]

@AreThereNoMoreNames Are you a time traveler from the 1800s? LMAO

[AreThereNoMoreNames]

@gunut4FMJ Not far off. I'm actually from the 1900s.

[M733]

wtf!? why?? there is no firing pin safety of any kind. Carried like that, a firm smack to the back of the hammer will set it off.

[AdmiralGST]

the hammer doesn't fully rest on the pin.

[JCTheSniper15]

@M733 No it wont. The free float firing pin needs inertia in order to strike the primer hard enough to set it off. If you smack the hammer, it won't move the firing pin quick enough to set the round off.

[JCTheSniper15]

Most people shoot at hard surfaces all the time. Example: Steel targets.

[JCTheSniper15]

If you follow those four rules you listed, you'll never shoot anything you didn't intend to. Unless the round fires by itself, in which case, the safety won't help at all.

[gunut4FMJ]

@roddy666mc Dont take that too literally.

[AltonJB1984]

Does anyone know where to get one of these holsters??

[PooPoo2U]

from the company who makes them, EFA

[dansl70]

looks sort of like an obliterated knee cap waiting to happen

[thewhiskeyrebel77]

@dansl70 only if they don't know what they are doing

[ryosukekaneshiro]

@dansl70 That's if they actually decide to shoot the gun right after they unholster their weapon. Anyone who does that with a normal holster would shoot himself in the leg too.

[9K58]

@dansl70

how?

[AchillesGlory1]

@dansl70 Not if you know how to hold a pistol

[ThisIsTitters]

@dansl70 Don't have your finger on the trigger when you pull it out. Simple as that.

[bigjavo36]

@dansl70 see but normally the those with these holsters are highly trained russian soldiers not regular idiots it was designed for trained professionals not the general public

[518RedNeck]

damn sir, that is crazy. my dad just got his pistol permit approved yesterday and i have to tell him to find a holster for his bereta

[PooPoo2U]

will not fit a beretta. the russian government holds the patent, and it is designed only to fit certain makarov models.

[chevlumina]

anyone know where I can get one?

[PooPoo2U]

yup, but unless you've already got the makarov it won't do a whole lot of good...

[chevlumina]

Ok, so where can I get one?

[PooPoo2U]

if you must get one, i'd recommend the efa-1 rather than this one. when you push down, it still chambers the round and takes off the safety, but rather than coming out the bottom you simply draw it normally and it's ready to fire.

both can be purchased from efa through their website

[MadamKouassi]

Lolz, imagine having the holster without the firearm. It'd be like "Whaaa!... oh wait, shit I don't have a gun."

[PooPoo2U]

ah, i've got a couple of old maks laying around, so i'm good to go =P

[Jesses001]

That is...interesting. I have never seen a holster design like that before.

[CoolConejo]

Like Magic!

[Mrkillerpat]

cool