Shorin ryu is characterized by short stances and fast hands. Long stances are the influence of shotokan. There is a proper distance for each stance. A proper zenkutsu dachi should take you out of kicking range (eg.) without taking you out of the fight.
Oh and mitch, Shorin kan (kobayashi) is what shorin ryu is before Shotokan. Thats what funokoshi learned. :) There are two schools in Canada. One in Ontario and one in BC.
This guy is Jim Sindt from Denmark (?) I think. Great kata, great karateka, pure karate. If you are practising Shotokan - I would highly recommend for you to check out Matsubayashi. I was on Shotokan for 12 years and the last three I've been on Matsubayashi (which I see as the Shorin-ryu before all the Funakoshi's son's modifications). You put the two styles together (start from white belt again and go through the system) and you have great karate as a result.
emotionumist - Very good take on combining the styles. For several years I have applied the whipping action into my shotokan with, I think, very good results. It has helped me keep speed as I reach my mid-50s. I don't do the slow-step-then-whip, but whip from the very beginning, (forcing the legs to move faster) and then rock-solid shotokan focus at the end. Quite impossible to do unless very relaxed.
Life-long shotokan guy, but really liking Matsubayashi Ryu.
@ptboyindenver, Since much of JKA is Shorin style you are not that far off from what you are watching. Many of the Japanese in the past went to Okinawa to complete what they have learned or further advance to complete them. Either way, at the end it is all the same kicking, punching & similar blocking, as long as it works for you.
I first saw Nakayama in 80's that was pretty amazing, seen Nishiyama in action & Oshima, they are great, & to name a westerner Frank Smith, scary how good he is.
Does anybody know who this is? I practice Shotokan at present, as well as a Shito/Shudokan blend; I always enjoy watching this guy's kata, his hand speed/movements and snap are really good. Some don't like the high stances, but I think there is value in training both with deep, as well as shallow stances, at different times. All in all, great kata.
Very excellent. Matsubayashi Ryu carries on classical traditional kata...the way they should be done. No flashy high spinning flip kicks, just good old karate. Love it.
I'm sandan in Okinawa Shorin Ryu.. Here the ppl who hv commented are 13yrs matsubayashi and 20 years Shotokan great masters.. So, I'm no one to comment here.. But, what I know is as for Okinawa Shorin ryu, his Kata is nice.. why ppl always wnt to find a fault without appreciating his skill? Human nature.. If i count 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.. wht u find?? sure, u tell, hey man u missed 4.. Not I counted 9 numbers correctly.. But karate is to respect each other...
Well Put. This guy is incredible in his own right. He is obviously in very good shape, practicing with his full potential and is challenging himself with every kata to go faster, harder and stronger. Ive been on the floor with Eihachi Ota, and his style of kata closely resembles this mans demonstrations.
If somebody faces me in the dojo and does the ol' "tag him and run away" routine with me, I usually tap him three or four times in the back of the head with my open hands (instead of clobbering him) and then push him into the wall for good measure (avoiding the mirror).
Shotokan uses lower stances than Shorin-Ryu, and I am not advocating one over the other.
I would agree with you, and also state that there is still lots of Shotokan in my karate still; after all that is what I was taught from a young age. What I was trying to say was how switching to a more preserved Okinawan style allowed me to realize how Funakoshi's karate must have been once. I think going through two styles is definitely moulding my karate in a way far better than a single style would have done.
That's fine. I studied Matsubayashi for 13 years and am now in Shotokan (4th dan). I think it is extremely dangerous to assume that ANY martial artist just wants to "score a point" on you.
Masters Funakoshi and Nakayama (Shotokan) did not really want to water down the art with tournament fighting, and in any good Shotokan school, the tournament aspect of karate is downplayed.
But think of it this way...spar with a master; his stances are much higher than yours. Point is to train low, and as you age, make it more natural. It's less about muscular work, more about timing and body shifting.
This Chinto is good. but I can't see an opponent in front of him.
My biggest issue with Matsubayashi? Timing. Foot down, then hand? Why? Gives opponent an extra half second to hit you.
Why? Because in Okinawan karate you are not hitting to score a point, you are hitting to kill, and for that you need to enable multiple principles, such as having ground leverage to transfer the force ground-up, through your hips, to the target; and also be in a stable position to control the physics of your opponent.
Emotionnumist and BigBagErik, both of you have very good points. I would do foot down and then punch if hitting to kill and then foot and punch at the same time if in kumite. BigBadErik, very awesome to study both, I bow to you with respect. Emotionumist I can tell you are a good Karateka as well.
To add to my last point: In Matsubayashi, beginners are taught foot first then hand. However, second dan up, the teaching evolves reducing that foot-hand time gap down to milliseconds. Why do they teach it that way? I guess Nagamine stressed balance before attack. Is it good/bad? That's upto you. But I went from Shotokan (12 years) to Matsubayashi (2 years), and I havent looked back since. My karate feels right now.
It is.... It is called Kime. You have to imagine that you are actually fighting. You must make the outcome of the fight in your mind, and perform it through physical meditation, this is kata. There is more to kata, but this is part of it.
Lord I hate this style of Karate. The high stances; the lack of chamber; the sloppy look. No offense to the practioner. I am just not a fan of the style.
As a result I think this kata looks like hell, but I know it is well performed withint the confines / limitations of the style.
Mitch, how much do you know about Matsubayashi? If you are a Shotokan practitioner, I suggest you review Funaokoshi's 20 precepts. Depending on what region of Canada you live in, you may want to go check out a Shorin school.
Beautiful thing to watch
IFironfingers 2 months ago
I love this style of karate. I've been training for 11yrs and have a blk belt. My favorite kata is Rohai, but I still need alot of work on this one.
bodycandy1 1 year ago
every video i watch of this guy im amazed nice job i want to be just as good
okinawate1996 1 year ago
MUY BUENA EJECUCION!!!
OSS!!
katoleel 1 year ago
very nice kata,OSU.
zukioi 2 years ago
Did these stomach mae geri kicks exist before Itosu's modifications?
wateronthesmoke 2 years ago
im amazed such powerfull movements and yet within the technique of the style..you are very talented...11th dan??/
poniran 2 years ago
Great kata. I love the intensity he keeps during the whole thing it's inspirational. I also like the snap his Gi makes I wonder what brand it is.
bezenartw 2 years ago
Shorin ryu is characterized by short stances and fast hands. Long stances are the influence of shotokan. There is a proper distance for each stance. A proper zenkutsu dachi should take you out of kicking range (eg.) without taking you out of the fight.
Oh and mitch, Shorin kan (kobayashi) is what shorin ryu is before Shotokan. Thats what funokoshi learned. :) There are two schools in Canada. One in Ontario and one in BC.
reaperblacku 3 years ago
This guy is Jim Sindt from Denmark (?) I think. Great kata, great karateka, pure karate. If you are practising Shotokan - I would highly recommend for you to check out Matsubayashi. I was on Shotokan for 12 years and the last three I've been on Matsubayashi (which I see as the Shorin-ryu before all the Funakoshi's son's modifications). You put the two styles together (start from white belt again and go through the system) and you have great karate as a result.
emotionumist 3 years ago
emotionumist - Very good take on combining the styles. For several years I have applied the whipping action into my shotokan with, I think, very good results. It has helped me keep speed as I reach my mid-50s. I don't do the slow-step-then-whip, but whip from the very beginning, (forcing the legs to move faster) and then rock-solid shotokan focus at the end. Quite impossible to do unless very relaxed.
Life-long shotokan guy, but really liking Matsubayashi Ryu.
ptboyindenver 2 years ago
@ptboyindenver, Since much of JKA is Shorin style you are not that far off from what you are watching. Many of the Japanese in the past went to Okinawa to complete what they have learned or further advance to complete them. Either way, at the end it is all the same kicking, punching & similar blocking, as long as it works for you.
I first saw Nakayama in 80's that was pretty amazing, seen Nishiyama in action & Oshima, they are great, & to name a westerner Frank Smith, scary how good he is.
ShorinRyuRonin 1 year ago
Does anybody know who this is? I practice Shotokan at present, as well as a Shito/Shudokan blend; I always enjoy watching this guy's kata, his hand speed/movements and snap are really good. Some don't like the high stances, but I think there is value in training both with deep, as well as shallow stances, at different times. All in all, great kata.
mbradshawlong 4 years ago
very very good.
heidigermaine 4 years ago
i miss doing this kata i need to get back into practice.....shorin ryu black belt for life!!!
phatbastid 4 years ago
good kata, but Shoshin Nagamine Sensei doesnt take a step before the flying kick in Chinto =p
Bubishi8 4 years ago
Very excellent. Matsubayashi Ryu carries on classical traditional kata...the way they should be done. No flashy high spinning flip kicks, just good old karate. Love it.
Funkensteinlives 4 years ago 5
I'm sandan in Okinawa Shorin Ryu.. Here the ppl who hv commented are 13yrs matsubayashi and 20 years Shotokan great masters.. So, I'm no one to comment here.. But, what I know is as for Okinawa Shorin ryu, his Kata is nice.. why ppl always wnt to find a fault without appreciating his skill? Human nature.. If i count 1, 2, 3, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10.. wht u find?? sure, u tell, hey man u missed 4.. Not I counted 9 numbers correctly.. But karate is to respect each other...
aiko4321 4 years ago
Well Put. This guy is incredible in his own right. He is obviously in very good shape, practicing with his full potential and is challenging himself with every kata to go faster, harder and stronger. Ive been on the floor with Eihachi Ota, and his style of kata closely resembles this mans demonstrations.
MuskokaLad 3 years ago
If somebody faces me in the dojo and does the ol' "tag him and run away" routine with me, I usually tap him three or four times in the back of the head with my open hands (instead of clobbering him) and then push him into the wall for good measure (avoiding the mirror).
Shotokan uses lower stances than Shorin-Ryu, and I am not advocating one over the other.
BigBadErik 4 years ago
I would agree with you, and also state that there is still lots of Shotokan in my karate still; after all that is what I was taught from a young age. What I was trying to say was how switching to a more preserved Okinawan style allowed me to realize how Funakoshi's karate must have been once. I think going through two styles is definitely moulding my karate in a way far better than a single style would have done.
emotionumist 4 years ago
That's fine. I studied Matsubayashi for 13 years and am now in Shotokan (4th dan). I think it is extremely dangerous to assume that ANY martial artist just wants to "score a point" on you.
Masters Funakoshi and Nakayama (Shotokan) did not really want to water down the art with tournament fighting, and in any good Shotokan school, the tournament aspect of karate is downplayed.
BigBadErik 4 years ago
Studied Matsubayashi 13 yrs...now Shotokan (20 yrs). Matsubayashi stances *are* higher.
But think of it this way...spar with a master; his stances are much higher than yours. Point is to train low, and as you age, make it more natural. It's less about muscular work, more about timing and body shifting.
This Chinto is good. but I can't see an opponent in front of him.
My biggest issue with Matsubayashi? Timing. Foot down, then hand? Why? Gives opponent an extra half second to hit you.
BigBadErik 4 years ago
Why? Because in Okinawan karate you are not hitting to score a point, you are hitting to kill, and for that you need to enable multiple principles, such as having ground leverage to transfer the force ground-up, through your hips, to the target; and also be in a stable position to control the physics of your opponent.
emotionumist 4 years ago
Emotionnumist and BigBagErik, both of you have very good points. I would do foot down and then punch if hitting to kill and then foot and punch at the same time if in kumite. BigBadErik, very awesome to study both, I bow to you with respect. Emotionumist I can tell you are a good Karateka as well.
SuikendoCrap666 4 years ago
To add to my last point: In Matsubayashi, beginners are taught foot first then hand. However, second dan up, the teaching evolves reducing that foot-hand time gap down to milliseconds. Why do they teach it that way? I guess Nagamine stressed balance before attack. Is it good/bad? That's upto you. But I went from Shotokan (12 years) to Matsubayashi (2 years), and I havent looked back since. My karate feels right now.
emotionumist 4 years ago
i could swear kata was a form of meditation...
pharos1 4 years ago
It is.... It is called Kime. You have to imagine that you are actually fighting. You must make the outcome of the fight in your mind, and perform it through physical meditation, this is kata. There is more to kata, but this is part of it.
davefarber 4 years ago
This is not figure skating, dude. It's not supposed to "look good".
mirekcerny 5 years ago
Lord I hate this style of Karate. The high stances; the lack of chamber; the sloppy look. No offense to the practioner. I am just not a fan of the style.
As a result I think this kata looks like hell, but I know it is well performed withint the confines / limitations of the style.
Korbillion 5 years ago
look again he chambers well,form is impeccable open your eye and mind and maybe you'll being to see
bernalsilva 5 years ago
If you saw Shorin Ryu Seibukan katas you would love this style.
bmk397 5 years ago
Mitch, how much do you know about Matsubayashi? If you are a Shotokan practitioner, I suggest you review Funaokoshi's 20 precepts. Depending on what region of Canada you live in, you may want to go check out a Shorin school.
Yasaguri 4 years ago
that guy can snap !
egonomic666 5 years ago
i know the kempo version of this and its really different, i mean alot different =]
kickassquatch 5 years ago
I'm learning this one. But the one I am learning is Issinryu, so it's a little different.
PazRent 5 years ago