France Falls May - June 1940 (Part 1/5)

[bpiotrAgain]

2)... So for Poles french explanations: "ooo we have horrible losts tats why we dont want fight in 1939 etc" its only CHEAP exuse.

When in 1933 sHitler First time piss on Versaile treaty, Poland proposed for France common interwention in Germany. France refused and League of Nations

threatened "economic sanctions" for Poland.

About Britain, Im glad of that you have balls to said:

"1939 this is Shame for Britain"

[56KbModem]

France and UK are cowards and traitors. They were obliged by a treaty to help Poland when it was attacked by the Nazis.

What did the Allies do? Completely nothing. And Germany was barely defended as hitler threw everything against Poland.

There wouldn't even be a WW2 if not for this backstabbing action.

After Poland fell, French and British armies got STEAMROLLED in 2 weeks(Poland held for a month vs Germany AND Russia, funny).

[WChurchill1874]

I hate comments like this, during the First World War Britain and France both lost a generation of men, neither country particularly wanted a repeat of The Somme, in which 64,000 men were killed or wounded in the first day of the battle. France lost even more men than Britain, and the French population were told that there would be NO MORE WARS, I feel that it was a shame that we didn't attack Germany in the opening stages of the war, but at that time the British Army only had 200,000 men.

[bpiotrAgain]

@WChurchill1874

My answer About "NO MORE WARS" matter.

1939 speach of Polish Minister Foreign Affairs J.Beck:

"Peace is a valuable and desirable thing. Our generation, bloodied in wars, certainly deserves a period of peace. But peace, like almost all things of this world has its price, the high, but measurable. We in Poland do not know the concept of peace at any price. It is only one thing in people's lives, nations and states, which is priceless. The thing is HONOR."

[WChurchill1874]

Both countries were still recovering from the Wall Street Crash and didn't have the money to invest into the armed forces. Britain and France both felt that the main clash of armies should be avoided at all costs. Part of it was that the Allied armies were over run, because they stuck to the old princple of attacking through the low countries.

[bpiotrAgain]

@WChurchill1874

Heh, there should be speech:) sorry:)

[ThePalnik]

"Brave" French:

In 1938 they didn't want to fight for Prague!

In 1939 they didn't want to fight for Gdańsk and Warsaw!!

In 1940 they didn't want to fight for Paris!!!

The worst cowards of Europe.

[galliffet]

@ThePalnik Le monde entier n'a rien fait, y compris la Grande-Bretagne et surtout les Etats-unis.... Et la France est le SEUL pays à avoir combattu (en Sarre) au moment de l'aggression de la Pologne par l'Allemagne. De plus, je dirais à tous ceux qui critiquent la France : il est toujours facile d'être courageux lorsqu'il n'y aucun danger et qu'on se trouve loin de l'ennemi !! La France, elle, s'est toujours trouvée en 1ere ligne....

[ThePalnik]

@galliffet I don't unedrstand french so I had to use google translator to translate your comment. Of course I know that you French hate english language :P In 1939, while Poland was fighting bravely, you have made only a small offensive in Saar and you advanced only less than 10 kilometres into the german territory. And you stopped all actions after a few days and withdraw your forces to your own deffensive position. Do you really call this minor action "fighting"???

[galliffet]

@ThePalnik Je suis d'accord, on ne peut pas vraiment appeller sa combattre ou "fighting". Mais les autres pays n'ont eu aucune réaction et ils ne peuvent donc pas nous donner de leçons de morale. De plus, notre action a permis de fixer 33 divisions allemandes sur notre frontière, ce qui n'est pas négligeable.

What is your nationality ?

[ThePalnik]

@galliffet I'm Polish. So don't be surprised that I blame France (and also Great Britain) for the fact that you didn't help us in 1939. In addition you sold Czechoslovakia to Germany in 1939. We lost the campaign in 1939 in 5 weeks. You lost in 1940 in 6 weeks. But we lost in much better and glorious way than you. We had less troops and worse equipment, but our soldiers fought bravely. In that terrible days it became clear that France and England were our false friends.

[TheBelovedButterfly]

@ThePalnik I agree, we (the British) did nothing except make ourselves targets in 1939, although anyone could see what was happening. This is unjust, because without Polish pilots we could not have won the Battle of Britain. The French case is different - they had suffered terribly during WW1, and not received agreed reparations. They also had a border to defend. For me, our betrayal of Poland is one of the most shameful episodes of our history.

[jeszczetwardybanan]

@TheBelovedButterfly Yes, the French had a border to defend - during 8 months they were sitting hidden in the bunkers of the Maginot Line and looking at the german positions of Siegfried Line, while Poles were suffering from german occupation. I think that the first big mistake that the UK and France made was in 1936 when they let to re-militarize the Rheinland, which was breaking the rules of the Treaty of Versailles. Didn't use the chance to stop Hitler in 1939, when he was weak.

[TheBelovedButterfly]

@jeszczetwardybanan They bargained for time until it was too late. For one thing, France had been decimated during WW1 - 1/4 of her males dead, 1/4 disabled; land destroyed forever, industries destroyed by the Germans, no housing. America was busy financing the Nazis to arm, but nobody supported the French in upholding the Versailles Treaty. Nobody was ready for a total war, militarily or psychologically. The Battle of Britain was fought with 650 planes against 2500.

[TheBelovedButterfly]

The rest of Europe had been so destroyed by WW1, and so demoralised, it seems to me there was an element of disbelief in the politicians - they could not believe that a nation would voluntarily do this again. With hindsight we can say, "they should have done this, or that" but Nazi Germany was sitting like a psychopath in the centre of Europe, and people rarely understand a psychopath until it is too late to avoid the damage.

[TheBelovedButterfly]

What is very clear, however, is that, as discussed earlier, NOTHING was done to help Poland. Those Poles who could, fought heroically beside us as allies - but we didn't treat your country as an ally, only as a flashpoint to declaring war. I think that ALL efforts should have gone to a major offensive to free Poland, with a planned campaign to be put into operation immediately the invasion began, but instead, they were paralysed.

[bpiotrAgain]

@TheBelovedButterfly

1)You mentioned about decimation of french population during WWI. But what Poland can said: Eastern Front during WWI moved few times on OURS lands, Poles fight in all armies during this conflict German,Austrian,Russian and even in French. In period 1919-21 we fight with Soviet Union and AGAIN 80% of ours territories were a battlefield, so Ours Population losts were also High and Material even higher than in France., when during WWI only 40% were place of fights.....

[Fridomfry]

@TheBelovedButterfly , agree 100%. Just add 4 "strategic" remarks :

- France was not only crippled by its splendid resistance in WW1, but also handicapped by its lame parliamentary regime, which hampered any sustained policy.

- Britain believed in "appeasement" until March 1939, when it was too late.

- The US, which had promised to support European democracies in case of a new German agressiveness, switched to isolationism and rather tended to support Germany.

- The USSR supported Germany.

[TheBelovedButterfly]

@Fridomfry Appeasement also sprang from the psychological impact of WW1. Too little was done, too late, because of the absolute abhorrence of another war, and handing over the industrial part of Czechoslovakia enabled Hitler still further. If a nation wants peace they must be prepared for war - neither France nor Britain were, even when they kept to the terms of their treaty with Poland and declared it! Leaflets being dropped instead of bombs?

[TheBelovedButterfly]

America has an ambiguous relationship with Germany - (they even tolerated wholesale German terrorism on American soil before declaring war in 1917!) Having inflicted their "Fourteen Points" on Europe, they should have upheld Versailles. As for Russia, one of the biggest frauds was the Nazi claim to be "anti-Bolshevist", when in fact they originally declared that they shared an ideology.

[Fridomfry]

@TheBelovedButterfly , I agree (again). Munich was our last chance to curb Hitler at small cost. Let me insist on the crucial importance of the Soviet support to Germany during all these years. Most of the oil and raw materials used by the German war machine to crush the Western democracies until 1941 were supplied by the USSR. And it was a basic principle of strategy that Germany had most chances to win a war on one front, and to lose on two fronts.

[TheBelovedButterfly]

@Fridomfry I wonder what territorial ambitions Stalin had toward Germany itself, if any? I have never heard of any Russian equivalent of the German drive for " living space", have you? Obviously the original agreed aim was a mutual carving up of Europe between them, but two such regimes couldn't have co-existed. So, if Russia had pre-empted Germany's attack, would it have been with the aim of actually annexing Germany, or was the annexation of East Germany simply opportunism?

[Fridomfry]

@TheBelovedButterfly , the communist movement, based in Moscow, never ceased to plan for a worldwide revolution. And, since Marx, Germany was considered a key country for the rule of socialism. The man Stalin had a more nationalist, limited view, toward creating a shield of vassal countries around the USSR. In this view, two arch-enemies had to be broken up and weakened: Poland and Germany.

Had Russia pre-empted Germany's attack in early 1941, nothing would have stopped it until the Channel.

[TheBelovedButterfly]

@Fridomfry That is pretty much as I imagined it. I believe that only the nuclear threat followed by stalemate kept the Russians from continuing to roll west; and it's open to question whether the Channel would have succeeded as a defensive moat under those circumstances.

[Fridomfry]

@TheBelovedButterfly , very possibly. I hold that it was the British bombers (and also the USAF) which established peace in Europe since 1945. Yet people in Brussels keep saying that the real peacekeepers were the Eurocrats singing Beethoven's "Ode to Joy" over these years. Anyway, I am ready to go on playing "What If…?", which seems a favourite on YouTube.

[TheBelovedButterfly]

@Fridomfry I think it is a combination of the two. We should keep singing "Ode To Joy" - but keep the bombers loaded. That's only sensible.

[ThePalnik]

@galliffet During the summer 1939 France and England were giving promises to Poland that they will start their offensive two weeks after german attack, and together we'll defeat the enemy. And when the war started you did almost nothing.

[galliffet]

@ThePalnik Tu as plutôt raison. Mais tu ne dois pas oublier que la Pologne n'a pas eu une attitude très correcte en 1938 avec la Tchecoslovaquie : vous avez réclamé la région de Cieszyn et vous n'avez pas été solidaires de la France et l' Angleterre.

Il faut que tu relises la campagne de France en 1940 : je pense que nos soldats se sont très courageusement battus. 100000 d'entre eux sont morts au combat.

[galliffet]

@ThePalnik Si nous n'avons pas attaqué en septembre 1939, c'est parce que notre armée n'était pas prête (malheureusement), elle ne pouvait pas percer la ligne Siegfried.

L'armée polonaise a sans doute été courageuse mais nous ne pouvions pas la sauver. Vous n'avez d'ailleurs pas tenu 5 semaines : le 15 septembre 1939 l'armée polonaise était déjà pratiquement détruite.

[ThePalnik]

@galliffet Yes, you stopped your "offensive" in Saar about 15th september, because, in your opinion the deffence of Poland was over. But it wasn't true. In that they there was the battle on Bzura river - the greatest battle in 1939 campaign. Warsaw capitulated in 28th sept, Hel in 1th oct, the battle of Kock was over in 5th oct. The Germans wanted to destroy us in 2 weeks, but in fact it was much longer. You knew about Siegfried line before the war, so why you promissed us an effective help?

[galliffet]

@ThePalnik Ok ok ok, je vois que tu es très remonté contre nous. Je pense quand même que tu te trompes d'ennemi. Evidemment, tout le monde sait que nous avons commis des erreurs avant la guerre (et pendant), mais c'est le cas de beaucoup de pays (y compris la Pologne). La France a signé une alliance avec la Pologne parce que nous pensions que vous pouviez être un allié puissant, et aussi parce que nous n'avions pas trop le choix.

[bpiotrAgain]

Listen Sabaton-->"40-1"

and compared FIGHT in 1939

with "allies escape" from 1940.

Listen Sabaton--> "Uprising" and compared two capitols:

Warsaw 1939/44and Paris 1940.

[panzerchutz5]

haha that what happens when u face a mechanized beast.Germany was preaty damn strong just took on to much at once. one vs one germany would win. look at world war one same thing late 1917 germany was vsing britian canada america and france.they just take on to much at once

[lombakazi]

what can i say... the frenchmen can't fight :P

[Rico8458]

yes, the french are great great great fighters under napoleon.

[Rico8458]

yes, the french are great great great fighters under napoleon.

[tupakki]

I hope France wouldn't have falled. For many reasons.

[Camarale]

Stop to swallow vodka, degenerate drunkard.

[bpiotrAgain]

If brits and french moved own asses in septeptember 1939(small and weak german units on the west) and not play at "phoney war", or not sell Czechoslovakia in 1938, this WWII might look different.

By the way: Belgium +Ardeny -how many times you can take on the same maneuver 1914,1940,1944????

[Rico8458]

huns and jerrys and kruats. lol.

[Rico8458]

france needed a napolean at that time.

[lookgooddz]

@Rico8458 Unfortunately they had a Coward called "DE GAULLES"

[Fridomfry]

Ferior, you should think before speaking. France had resisted and repelled the German invasion in 1914, almost alone, then lost 18% of its youth in the trench war, ending up an exhausted victor. Meanwhile Russia, 3 times more populated, collapsed and surrendered in 1917, abandoning its allies.

In 1939, the USSR was allied with the Nazis. Brilliant, indeed! You obviously chose your camp.

[calibre9mm]

there were some 13000 French men who joined the Germans against Russia

The French Waffen SS Charlemegne became the top 3 decorated units in the East, & Hitler personally hailed them in 1945 when they were among the last defenders of Berlin

theres a vid on the web that had 24 French SS POWs captured & turned over to General Giroux of France, he asked "why are you wearing nazi uniforms?" 1 replied "why are you wearing an American?" - then the next shot we see they were executed, typical. ironic

[OberstByrhon]

@Ferior

Russian lost all their battle the first year and was not invaded because russia is very tall. Without winter, they lost the war.

[binguhj]

@Ferior

Your analysis is so simplist ! If it were as simple as that, there would be no war at all. Think before speaking.

[StaffanGoldschmidt]

The hunne?

[SloveintzWend]

The Hun. British offensive nickname for Germans in ww1. It was given to them due to Kaiser cruelness compared with historical Huns and their "Hun" "pickehaube" helmets.

[GeneralmotorsMHM]

Andrew you are a big mouth...

[101andrewj]

shitty france... they considered themselfs such a great nation for so long..... but the one time they really needed to prove it they sucked ass..... i shit on the french

[galliffet]

@101andrewj Pauvre idiot, je ne sais pas de quelle nationalité tu es mais il est certain que ton pays n' a pas eu à affronter l'Allemagne à cette époque, sinon il aurait subi une défaite plus lourde que la notre. Les Etats-Unis et la Grande-Bretagne avaient des armées squelettiques en 1940. Les Britanniques n'ont d'ailleurs pas sauvé la France, ni la Pologne, ni la Norvège, ni la Grèce... Quant aux Américains, ils ne sont intervenus que TRES longtemps après le début de la guerre.

[sleptopia]

@galliffet Indeed, we are very lucky that we are an island and therefore less susceptible to Blitzkrieg tactics. The Maginot line was truly fantastic.

[QPhilms]

'To Lose A Battle' Author: Alistair Horne

Complex, difficult... understandable.

Meticulous planning, indomitable morale.

Versus lackidasical outdated ideas and confused, unfinished ideals of defense.

It is very easy to see the outcome.

[alpacks]

for me, French defeat is political first of all, then technological but with less than impact! the truth is that the French were incoherent, because 1914-18 been still not digested on torments that there was on the forehead between French !

look for instance at the film of Jean Pierre Jeunet : a Very Long engagement, they see there very precisely how much the French made endure them even war during the WW1

[alpacks]

The French officers were of an atrocity without demarcation with their soldiers who were mostly only of simple citizen drafted by force !

the France had a dreadful moral suffering after this war, how a country having suffered so much could it envisage several years has the advance a new conflict with Germany ? in France one call its years, the crazy years !

[alpacks]

the citizens had some more mental wounds has recover, and it is for it that they were only having a good time during this years ...

Popular "front" in 1936, paid leaves hollidays, french people thinks only of the social advances, and we can understand them after so much suffering !

how a country which suffers still mentally from a previous war can it earn against a monster as the Germany Nazi ?

[Camarale]

I think that US folks will be able to talk about wars, when they will experience one in their cities or countries. The sole wars that they knows are on TV, watching the news. This is the difference between Europeans and US citizens.

[Dresden100K]

The deeply divided French of 1940 remind me of 2009 America.

[rolsson138]

France did not posses an efficient doctrine for their armour and paid the price.

[tinman24601]

They had also forgotten the lessons of Cynoscephalae and Pydna. They put faith in their maginot line phalanx and never considered that an enemy swift enough to travel through or manuverable enough to go around could defeat it.

[Fridomfry]

tinman, then why did the French send their most mobile army corps, including most armoured units, toward the North ? It was precisely to meet the Germans in Belgium and Holland, where there was no Maginot line. I agree that the French top brass were not up to the task, yet they were not THAT stupid !

[kaa13]

@Fridomfry yeah...and we must not forget that germany attacked france through Netherland and Belgium without declaring war to these countries.

[lucius1976]

Neither did the British or Americans at that time

[Camarale]

Tu pourras parler de guerres quand tu trimbaleras ton petit cul de pedale sur un champ de bataille, pauvre merde. Des lopes dans ton genre qui donnent des lecons sur la guerre auraient chie dans leur froc sur les champs de bataille. Tu n'aurais meme pas meriter de crever a Verdun, les tripes arrachees par des eclats d'obus. Des lopes dans ton genre seraient plutot du genre a gemir et chialer en se coupant la main avec un couteau. Insignifiante merde.

[joshvn715]

Hey camarale, why would people in victory be so divisive. Have such little identity as "Frenchmen" to defend it, even blacks & whites meant the call to fight in Europe and would far more determined if it was their own country. At Verdun just years before it was Petain that proclaimed "Ils ne passeront pas" and they would pass just thirty years after.

[Glennovicz]

Espèce de petit roquet. Il n' y a pas eu UNE seule victoire purement française depuis Napoléon III. Si la France s'était battue seule en 14-18, elle se serait fait écraser comme d'habitude par tes cammarades teutons. Tu es un lâche qui cherches des boucs émissaires, un petit frustré de la mort qui vit dans un petit pays avec une mentalité de vaincue et de castré par 3 guerres perdues d'affilé, pauvre EUNUQUE de merde. Et je ne te réponds plus dorénavant, tu es vraiment trop con.

[Camarale]

J'apprecie beaucoup les bouffons dans ton genre qui taxent les autres d'extreme droite,alors que tu te permets de parler des noirs et des arabes qui sautent les femmes Francaises. Pour l'immigration, remercies plutot tes feres sionistes qui ont organise le grand metissage  universel depuis leur poubelle etatsunienne. La vraie capitale des USA, c'est Tel Aviv, pas Washington. PAUVRE MERDE. Ca te ferait du bien de te faire carresser a coups de barre de fer par les primates d'Alabama. Minable.

[eatmyshitbitchh]

Camarale your mom still sucking german cock you fucking queer.

[Camarale]

Decidement, tu es ignare jusqu'au bout des ongles, pauvre lope. La France n'a certainement pas de lecons a recevoir des porcs Yankees concernant les guerres.Pendant 1500 ans, elle les a vecu sur son sol, contrairement a la race batarde etatsunienne.Les seules guerres que ces clowns ont vecu,ce sont les guerres entre gang de dealers. Et au cas ou tu l'ignorerais, vu ta grande culture, Verdun etait une victoire Francaise en 1916. Ca te ferait du bien de te faire sodomiser par des rednecks Texans.

[Glennovicz]

En même temps, vu comme tu les insultes, je ne me demande pas pourquoi ils nous détestent tant que ça. Vas-y, continue de cracher sur ceux qui nous ont libérés, reste dans ton pays d'africains où les femmes se font sauter par les noirs et les arabes, où il n' y a pas eu une victoire militaire depuis Belfort. Pauvre merde d'extrême droite, apprends l'allemand, c'est ta langue naturelle.

[Glennovicz]

Camarale talks. Camarale is a big shot. Who gives a shit what he says?

[Camarale]

Les vrais losers sont des larves dans ton genre. Va sucer tes amis etatsuniens, qui, a 90 % n'ont en rien a foutre de la France. Un bon voyage la bas serait utile a des ignares comme toi, pour constater la haute estime que portent les porcs yankees a la France. Ton petit cerveau est victime du lavage a grande echelle,destine a toujours donner la poubelle US en exemple a la populace inculte dont tu fais partie, minable.

[Glennovicz]

Camarale, you're a fucking idiot and a disgrace to our country. You think you act brave and proud by insulting the Ricans but the truth is you just show us all how insecured, ridiculous and defeated a person you are. Poor loser, I pity you.

[Camarale]

What US pricks knows about wars, except watching it on TV, their fat asses on the sofa,or in movie theaters,watching Hollywood saving private Ryan bullshits ? And in case you don't know, Airbus is mostly French and is the first Aircraft maker in the world. Arianespace is mostly French and is the first civil sattelite launcher in the world. Concerning your space program, you should rather thanks Nazis, with Von Braun.French are not jealous of USA, a bunch of bankrupted suckers in total decline.

[sdreg]

Von Braun copied most of his work from the developments in the 20's and 30's of American Robert Goddard. The US/Brit did not fund and develop rockery during the war because they did not need to, they had heavy bombers. If there was a great need for it, it would have been developed as was the a-bomb. From a military stand point the Germans should not have developed it either; it was just a wonder weapon. So after the war they did have the jump on the technology, but their country was in ruins.

[Fridomfry]

In fact, the US developed rockets as short range artillery for pouring shell barrages on entrenched enemies. Some were used from landing ships on D.Day, and on Pacific islands. The Soviets developed their "Katiushas" on a much larger scale. The French had launched rocket programs in 1939, which were carried on under the Vichy regime but on a reduced scale.

You're right, the V2 was only a wonder weapon, able to carry 1 ton of explosives, while a British heavy bomber could carry 10.

[Camarale]

Concerning wars, you will be able to talk about it, when you will experience a true one in your fake no man's land of history. France and the French experienced 1500 years of wars on their soil, and France was the dominant power in Europe for centuries, when you were still in the balls of your Europeans ancestors.French military hstory is one of the most glorious of the world, if not the most, through centuries. Open true history books, not antiFrench google craps.

[Camarale]

And concerning your usual craps about the French, you could waste your time during hours, we don't give a shit. It;s like to say that USIANS are a bunch of obese incult brainless rednecks without any clue of what's going on outside their borders. A bunch of brainwashed biggots, who swallow Fox news shit propaganda as the truth. A bunch of uneducated losers, who don't even know to locate USA on a world map, and who think that Moscow is the capital of Italy, and that Madrid is a suburb of Paris.

[Camarale]

Your sole historical monuments are freeway bridges or Mac donald's restaurants. France roots goes back to the deep ages, when USA were still a virgin land populated by cactus and Native Americans, who were the REAL Americans, as you are a mongrel race coming from Europe. In fact, you're a kind of fake Europeans. A mix of Italians, English, Irish,Germans, Dutch, and even French in Louisiana. Your fake place is a joke, and it will never change.

[Camarale]

Frencj jealous of USA ? Only in your dreams. Jealous of what ?

[the82spartans]

Last time I check the Louisiana Purchase the USA wrote a check to Napoleon Bonaparte French Government.

So... WTF? Are French really the demise of 'American Indian'?

Hypocrite.

French & Indian War? Against England and American Colonies.

You're so Vichy. lol

[newtownsmells]

Does anyone know what the music is for the opening part of this documentary. it's very beautiful.

[newtownsmells]

Jeez. We were all on the same team. No one can really put yourselves in France's shoes. So many factors. What happened happened. If you all just relaxed and stopped insulting each other and your countries, it would be much better for all. French are awesome, so are the English, so are the Americans. Germans...not so much.

[spacesoviet59]

i agree, so boring to see some people bashing... disrespectful for soldiers who died in it!

[Camarale]

Je n'ai pas de lecons a recevoir de larves dans ton genre, pauvre merde. Dans ma famille, il y a certainement plus de gens qui sont morts pour la France que dans la tienne, minable loque. Si ca te fait plaisir de te faire insulter par ces porcs anglosaxons, c'est ton probleme, minable. C;est plutot des carpettes dans ton genre qui etaient collabos,en 1944. Et pour la liberation de l'Europe, remercies plutot l'union Sovietique, insignifiant etron.

[Glennovicz]

Please Americans and British, ignore this far right piece of shit. There were many brave Frenchmen during WWII. Men who got maimed and slaughtered for defending their country. This Camarale shit would have been among the traitors and collaborators of our nation. Please ignore this cunt and tell yourself that there are some people in France who still have a sense of honor and feel gratitude for the ones who saved us from the Nazis.

[Camarale]

In case you don't know, true Americans were Indians. Your mongrel race directly descents from Europeans pilgrims who landed in North America in 16th century, when Europe already existed for 1500 years, and the biggest achievments of mankind were already done. Incult brainwashed redneck. Your crass ignorance is really pathetic. Concerning British, most of the French don't give a shit of them A bunch of boasting clowns. Thanks the Channel who saved their gay asses.

[the82spartans]

True Indians came from Asia.

Race to the moon? USA is first.

Space shuttle just landed again.

What do you got? The failed 'egg' structure at the airport? Another Maginot' line to protect against invasion? lol

Your so fn jealous of the USA! Ha Haw HA!

Mongrel race... like your country hasn't been ass fucked over and over the past several centuries.

Tour de France Some big achievement. lol

France hasnt been shit since the time of Charlemagne. Ha haw!

[Camarale]

What are you talking about, asshole ? You're so ignorant ? Open history books before to tell your craps.France history is 2000 years old, and goes back to middle ages, as all Europe, when USA were still a desert poulated by cactus and Native Americans.Your fake 200 years place is a joke compared to Europe history.All your ancestors were Europeans in case you don't know, ignorant prick.Your dumb comments shows the ignorance of US basic citizens Open history books, Pathetic incult redneck .

[Camarale]

Vichy French killed 1000 US troops in North Africa, which was nothing,compared to the 67000 French civilians killed under allied bombings, in 3 years, mostly US, freak. And French axis troops were nothing, compared to the 1,3 million Free French troops involved in Europe in 1945. Freak. Open history books, instead to spread your usual craps. Concerning productivity, French ratio is amongst the top 3 in the world, even better than in US. Travel ouside your redneck shithole, brainwashed prick.

[Camarale]

It was not 1500 years of killing, prick. It was 1500 years of invasions due to the central location of France in Europe. I know that these kind of things are difficult to understand in your fake no man's land of history. The only wars that USIANS experience are wars between dealers gangs or watching overseas wars on TV, their fat asses on the sofa. Pathetic.

[the82spartans]

Dude... why so sad?

Vichy French was a shinning moment for you, was it not?  Shooting at US troops in North Africa? Tsk, tsk tsk.

With all of these posts by camarale, it just goes to show a 35 hour work week in France is perfect for limp-wristed butt punches like yourself.

Congratulations. Your a freak.

All this time I though the biggest frog prick in the 1500 year history of France was DeGaulle.

Huh. Go figure...learn somthing new everyday.

Hugs & Kisses,

-America

[spacesoviet59]

The coward americans did nothing in ww2, the soviet union did it all!

[the82spartans]

spacesoviet59 stated:

"i agree, so boring to see some people bashing... disrespectful for soldiers who died in it! "

But yet spacesoviet59 also stated just prior:

"The coward americans did nothing in ww2, the soviet union did it all! "

Hypocrite = Democrat in USA.

Does now Hypocrite = spacesoviet59? Yes.

lmfao. Indians, a European name as was the name "America's" Islands for maps.

English colony until 1776.

American Indian Nation? It did not exist in 1802, babe.

[NEWLOVE559]

Greatest Victory of all time

[Camarale]

France experienced 1500 years of wars, victories, massacres or defeats, like other European nations, when USA were still a desert populated by cactus and Native Americans and US assholes still in the balls of their European ancestors. We understand why they always bore us with this antique crap of WW2. It's virtually the sole important event in their little laughable 200 years shabby history. PATHETIC.

[Kravis63]

and 1500 years of war and killing is something to be proud of?

I guess if you have to compensate for penis size, then sure 1500 years of killing is something to be proud of.

[CandelarioGaIvan]

Camarale

The USA is older French Republic.

Where on earth are you getting 1500 years from???

And it isn't the US ALONE who talks crap about France. The Brits have a thing to say about it

[Camarale]

And it should be time to come in the real world for US assholes who always bore us with this antique crap of WW2, which means absolutely nothing anymore in France or Europe for people under 70. Europe in 2009 is a totally different planet. Travel outside your redneck shitholes, to educate you, bunch of losers and brainwashed pricks.

[Camarale]

French commandos or paratroopers could give war lessons to US pussies. What US assholes knows about wars, except in movie theaters or watching TV, their fat asses on the sofa ?

[Camarale]

A new French rebuilt army fought on most of this war theaters after 1942, from North Africa to Italy. Free French forces were 1,3 million involved in Europe in 1945. French fighters were not only Hollywood beret resistance craps. Open true history books, not antiFrench foogle craps. Bunch of uneducated losers.

[Camarale]

French casualties in WW2, military and civilians, were 600000, in 5 years, in an heavily damaged country, included 67000 Frenh civilians killed under allied bombings, mostly US, more than all US casualties of this war, on all fronts, Pacific and Europe, 416800. US assholes will be able to talk about wars, when they will experience on in their fake place without history and roots.

[Camarale]

They also shot down 1428 German planes, damaged a further of 688 and destroyed 1000 Nazi tanks. It certainly helped Britton big boasting mouths to not be crushed like shit during their air battle, a few weeks after.

[Camarale]

For some US uneducated pricks, with their dumb outdated jokes, i remind that the French lost 100000 kia in 6 weeks of fights in May/June 1940, and inflicted 45000 deads and 111000 woundeds to Germans.

[Camarale]

US pussies would have been crushed like others by German blietzkrieg, like Soviets were when they lost 5 million prisoners in the hands of Germans, in 1941/42. US army was a joke in 1940. These pricks knows to make war, only by dropping bombs from 15000 feets.

[randy95023]

FOR SALE: French Army Rifle, WW2 Vintage. Excellent condition! Never fired and only dropped once...

[aaronharms123456]

Very funny thick cunt. Get some fucking battle honours you little snivelling cunt.

[indianpatriot]

lol...france was owned

[Perversus666]

because of the very quick and humiliating defeat of the french army in 1940, many historians "forgot" to say that all the french soldiers did not surrender without firing a shot and made this eronned reputation of french "white flag wavers".

in reality there were a lot of french local victories, the most glorious being abbeville, montcornet and of course the battle of alps against the italians.

thousands of axis dead or prisonners.

[Rico8458]

yes, i know that the Grand Armee loved all those pretty german girls back then. lol. every german is really a frenchman.

[chrissoubibi]

Very incomplete documentary about campain of France.

BTW, most of the pictures of the Maginot Line here were taken into former 1870-1914 German fortifications from. The Maginot Line had to be kept secret.

[spacesoviet59]

Like every british/american documentary, it forget a lot of the combat of may-june 1940. Battle of Stonne isn't mentionned, also the defense of dunkirk, victories in Belgium and netherlands, heroic last stand on the Loire...

Watching this gave impression that only the BEF fought, the truth is that was a really little force (Belgian army was bigger), saved by the french in dunkirk.

[PLUME75]

And for all daring Americans who are born 40 years after ww2 and dare to judge French people, know that your country would have been blitzed even faster in 1940, if you had a land border with Fritz. It took you 4 years, after the combats you see in this video, to prepare yourself and come in Europe. Well protected by 2 oceans. So easy to talk afterwards pals, if someday in history USA has to confront a modern & powerful country on ITS SOIL, you'll be allowed to talk... But for now just stfu

[busarider29]

No, you're wrong to assume that the U.S. would have been blitzed faster simply because it took them 4 years to get into the war.

The U.S. didn't build up their military in 39'-42' because it didn't have to at that time. They had no interest in a European war thousands of miles away. If threats were building up on their borders, such as Germany with France, I'm sure they would have been preparing themselves and gearing up for war.

[Fridomfry]

I would say that PLUME & busarider are both right. No country is in a position to teach lessons to others, particularly if it was protected by oceans in 1940. It's also obvious that geography dictates strategy and military investments. Too bad that the French politicians of 1939 ignored geography... very much like the Bush admin, perhaps?:-)

[Rico8458]

I am German. I am superior to you.

[PLUME75]

If you're german you must have a part of French blood, pending how u're from... French soldiers gave german women very much for many years after the war (even during the war when they were prisoners).

[Waldganger64]

I have no disrespect for american people, but I can't understand why some of them are so proud of the defeat of France against the nazis.

You're supposed to hate nazis and support democracy, so why do you act like if it was the complete opposite?

Let me tell what I think about this defeat : France was completly isolated against the most populous, industrialized and militarised country in Europe. US didn't care, UK did what they could on the ground (not much, UK=naval power).

[Waldganger64]

At that very time, we would have needed allies. Like you reproched us not to follow you in 2003. The only difference was that we were defending our homeland against the barbary, not putting down some weak dictator in the gulf because of a bunch of crazy neocons decided so.

And yes, France needed young military leaders too, not the old ones who thought that sucj a war could be made behind incomplete walls. (north of france wasn't covered bay Maginot line).

[Fridomfry]

Very true, Waldganger. Remember that the US had an important German-American minority, particularly in NY and in the mid-west. And a real "nazi party of America" and prominent anti-semitic movements which existed until the 1960s. No wonder some brainless Americans still support Nazis. Thanks God, finally they were forced into the war on the good side.

[Rico8458]

at that time all frenchmen cried like girls. lol.

[spacesoviet59]

and 4 year later the germans did so...

[hsybcmpny]

How the fuck would you know sweetheart? How many germans did you kill? Ill bet your just another silly cunt american who knows fuck all about slotting or even slapping anyone. I can think of plenty of frogs knock your fucking stupid cunt head off. Now fuck off.

[El7IncA]

and the dirty frenchis lost hahahahhahahahhahahahahahah hail hitler!!!......

[spacesoviet59]

And in 1944, the frenchies pulled out the nazis and drove them behind the rhine, and little nazis like you were hanged!

[AraxisDemo]

Chill pills for breakfast anyone? Stfu and get along. This is your Canadian speaking. lol.

And yes, I know my country isn't perfect either, so take all the cheap shots you want. Cheers.

[Camarale]

You should arrange a war in fakeland USA, only to experience it, poor loser. USIANS, for 80% of them are a bunch of brainless obese pigs without any knowledge of history. Travel outside your redneck shitholes, only to fill your emprty brains.Pathetic dumb jerks.

[mnts747]

What the fuck is USIANS and emptry?

[Camarale]

Only looking at your related videos, and we understand that you are a frustrated loser, still masturbating with antique Nazi craps, which means absolutey nothing anymore in Europe or France for people under 70.

[derik586]

the only reason the germans couldnt beat the russians was because hitler used operation wings should have let his generals do there job made them march exra 800 miles when they were 200 miles from moscow

[Fridomfry]

the only reason the Germans couldn't beat the Russians was a basic strategy principle: Germans couldnt win a war on two fronts — let alone a war on 4 fronts, as was the case. The rest is details. Had they taken Moscow (as Napoleon did), they would have finally lost the war as well.

[Camarale]

You will be able to talk about wars, when you will experience one in your fake mongrel place . What do you know about wars, except in movie theaters ? Bunch of frustrated ignorant losers.

[Devsfan202]

Camarale: Is it true what they say that your family collaborated w the Nazi's after the country FELL to the Germans?Also, I guess there will be a fantasy movie out soon entitled " Attack of the Frogs" where the French will attack us 'immigrants' in the US w your slime- LOL!

[Camarale]

It's the kyke connection who fuck you,at the present time,US laughable brainless pig. French army could give war lessons to your pussies cowboys.You know to make war,only by dropping bombs from 15000 feets.Pathetic clowns.

[Camarale]

Not surprising comments from an uneducated and brainwashed US pig. France was the dominant power in Europe for centuries when your fake mongrel place was still populated by cactus and Native Americans, loser.

[Devsfan202]

The "Hun" got u rt up the arse in 1940, miserable frog!

[fabizio]

if the Germans had attacked the U.S. in 1940, Washington was down in a few days with little resistance. your army in 1940 was almost non-existent, and well below the French army. So shut up your mouth with your shitty historical culture, fucking immigrant

[STG44tiger]

My favorite part of WWII. Paris was too nice for the French

[Pikaqiu]

thnks for the upload.

[chicago85bearz]

Series is fucking great. Wow.

[mrkaribikdomkee]

Yo do not understand the German tactic. The Blitzkrieg Warfare based on encirclement of large amounts of the enemy. The Germans used brilliant tactics and had the best generals ever in humankind. The Wehrmacht wasn't larger than the French army but they used modern tactics and air support. The French do not lose that many soldiers because the Reich won so fast. In Russia the tactic didn't work and the Wehrmacht had to fight long battles with heavy casualties on both sides...

[chicago85bearz]

Russians can not seem to do anything with out heavy casualties.

[lesmcluffalot]

War fascinates me and it truly frightens me. War sucks.

[CrazyChickenDK]

yet people fight for the strangest reasons and man will kill man ass long as man is on this earth - that may explain both your feelings....I have read, seen and heard so much about war that I will NEVER take up an arm...NEVER....the pen is mightier than the sword even with the boot on your neck - that is what i think - you are free to disagree

[Camarale]

Corsica was liberated by Free French forces,with the participation of Corsican guerilla.Many of these French forces were Morrocan Goumiers.And when you say that Corsica was liberated without a single shoot,you tell CRAPS.German lost 1000 killed,Corsican partisans several hundreds,and Bastia was heavily damaged by 5 US bombings.Without counting Italian casualties.

[daltonagre]

Fantasy:A 2% mortality in 6 weeks is enormous for any army...Reality:Less than 100,000 french soldiers died in combat, against more than 9,000,000 soviet soldiers.Fantasy:As for the "French army being an army of Arabs"...

Reality:The french support for occupation was enormous in 1940.Arabs and foreigners were the core of free France forces between 1940 and 1943.Fantasy:Corsica was liberated by French commandos...Reality:Corsica was without no battle.Hitler gave the order to out, in 1943.

[Fridomfry]

100,000 French soldiers died in combat in 6 weeks, compared with 9,000,000 Soviet soldiers in 4 years = similar attrition rate in intensed battle periods. I think it's useless to refute the rest of your delirium, based on no serious sources - only your hateful imagination.

[Fridomfry]

Nonsense. In don't understand why you need to belive that. "Berlin Diary" was written by an American journalist living in Berlin, where he couldn't get much information on what was really happening on the front. The simple fact that the French lost 100,000 men in combat in May-June 1940, and shot down 1,000 German aircraft, means serious fighting. And, 4 years later, despite the 1940 disaster, France had an army again and was at the forefront of the battles in Italy and France.

[daltonagre]

The "french army" before liberation of Corsica and D day(6/6/1944) was an army of arabs, recruted in north Africa.The author of "Berlin Diary" travel to France, during the battle of France.France had an army of 5,000,000 men in 1940.If 100,000 died; then we would have 2% of mortality among french army.Facts are facts.

[Fridomfry]

Yes, and?? A 2% mortality in 6 weeks is enormous for any army. It was more than French casualties in Aug-Sept. 1914, when we repulsed the Germans on the Marne.

As for the "French army being an army of Arabs" until 1944, it's an absurd assertion:

- Most men who joined De Gaulle from 1940 on were French, coming either from Europe or the colonies.

- In 1943, African soldiers and officers accounted for 1/4 of the new French army.

Corsica was liberated by French commandos and the French Navy.

[daltonagre]

Fantasy:A 2% mortality in 6 weeks is enormous for any army...Reality:Less than 100,000 french soldiers died in combat, against more than 9,000,000 soviet soldiers.Fantasy:As for the "French army being an army of Arabs"...

Reality:The french support for occupation was enormous in 1940.Arabs and foreigners were the core of free France forces between 1940 and 1943.Fantasy:Corsica was liberated by French...Reality:Corsica was liberated without any shoot.Hitler gave the order to retire in 1943.

[daltonagre]

Except a handfull exception, France didn't fought in World War II.See the book "Berlin Diary".And we must remeber France had better and more tanks and artillery than nazi Germany.

[Fridomfry]

The French were certainly not enthusisatic about making another war against Germany, 20 years after the massacres of WW1. Yet, once mobilized, soldiers do what they are ordered to do. In 1940, Allied generals (French, British, etc.) were just no match for German leaders. In many places, French troops fought well but were overwelmed, hence their 100,000 casulaties. The French air force shot down some 1,000 German airplanes in May-June 1940, which Hitler missed badly during the battle of Britain.

[MarkVee23]

I don't know if the french fought but if it was Britain we would have fought to the end. Long live Britain, we are the best. And we always win at war

[awtystanislas]

surely idiots, you are on a stupid island.

[mrkaribikdomkee]

You are wrong they faught, but Germany was to strong. They used new military strategies and had the best generals and infantry in history of humankind.

[daltonagre]

France didn't fought, during World War II.

[rulerss]

nice sieg over france

[Ticonio]

nice piece of history!