I don't mean to sound overly skeptical, but the fact that the "blockages" occur in their most blatant (i.e. reddest) form over bony prominences causes one to think that it may just be irritating the skin between two opposing forces, in this case the tool and the spine. Then again, according to this chap, it's probably just indicating a sore neck.
@OneAdventure This patient has real issues with her thoracic and cervical vertebrae, it is very uncommon to produce response in these areas, predominantly the areas most affected are embedded in the musculature tissue. This can be forecasted when you press into the specific area with the fingertips leaving white imprints that take longer to return to the natural flesh tone. These techniques are so scientific and replicable that it really shouldn't warrant discussion,
@shalokin but it always seems to generate judgement before it is understood. I keep track of this thread to help to diminish this judgement and to encourage people to keep an open mind regarding useful therapies available. Peace x
@shalokin Scientific? So what exactly does the blockage block? (and again, I don't say it's not useful per so, I just asked a question). In another video a guy said the redish color is "the poison coming out". Do you believe that?
@meggaiwa Is this a 3 part assignment you have set me. I find a wave of negativity come over me when I see your name in my inbox, there is a reason for this and it is not because I find you challenging. If you are interested in these arts as your page suggests then enrol yourself on a small course and gain your answers through organic experience, you already know that I recommend this particular avenue. There is truth in what the guy says about poisons coming out, but could be more likened to
@shalokin blood cells that congregate and need releasing, breaking up in order for free flow to return. Blockages simply mean obstructing the body's natural mechanism's as you would find with any type of tumour. Peace brother x
there should be a video where this same technique is done with a different object and compare it against this horn that he's using and see what the differences are, if any.
@Ecclesiastes114 The differences lie with the ergonomic comfort of the practitioner and their personal choice. Experience through supplying different tools to colleagues has led to the acceptance that most of the horns imported (natural or flat) are too thin to start with and result in discomfort feedback from patient when sensitive areas are addressed. Many people use the lid of a jar, I think this looks cheap but the reality is Gua Sha could be performed with a pebble and some seaweed juice.
@Ecclesiastes114 My acupuncturist poured a little white flower on my back, and then scraped it with a porcelain soup spoon. Just thought I should let you know. :)
This therapy does not hurt or break the skin. It is basically a "hickie", and releases pockets of extravasated blood that are trapped by muscle , spasm & scar tissue. It provides for greater circulation that will carry the old blood away and allow new, nourishing blood to enter the tissues.
looks like one hell of a way to get a brilliant infection!!! Next time donate your money to a charity, that would make you feel far better than giving it to this quack.
@CCMAR LOL....no kidding....and he was also charged for ripping other clients off to create bruises. What I don't understand though about some of these Chinese and other pseudo-medical practices....is that they're still pretty weak after sooo much of time spent in all these crazy methods plus its not like they live any longer than average american or anything. Plus they don't get to enjoy Hamburgers either...LOL
This method Always rejuvenated mum. when she s unwell, the purplish red patches just appear very quickly and we know she will be brand new again. Everyone who feels unwell should try this
1:01 - Anyone know what that chunk of white stuff is that's inside the thing he's got in his hand? I'm sure it's a kind of cream of some sort, but exactly what would be nice to know.
@LazyMan9000 please refer to a recent post of mine, hope this helps, you can also use massage oil, vics vapo rub, vaseline etc, with consideration for patient reaction to certain oils, ie nut allergies for starters, simple skin patch tests are advisable here, cheers
este tipo no es acupunturista.... ¡¡ es un chanta ¡¡ Mula. ¿Quieren desprestigiar la acupuntura? Acupuntura es con agujas... y calor..... cambie el titulo... please, is not "acupunture" is "raspature" sorry.... broookture or.. acupunmentira- , respetuosamente.
Don't knock it till you try it! I am a massage therapist and this modality works well when I have exhausted my deep tissue attempts on patients with scar tissue, adhesions, and chronically tonic muscles fibers.
It's not red because of stress or tension it's red because he just brook capillaries under the skin from rubbing to hard. This guy isn't the smartest of them out there !!
Polemic 'A controversial argument, especially one refuting or attacking a specific opinion or doctrine. 2. A person engaged in or inclined to controversy, argument,' I denounced all faith in alternative medicine in favour of supporting everything you speak of, but am still being accused of controversial argument. Strange paradox you present here. You win again, you have sublime form.
Gua Sha is the Chinese name for a therapy that has origins in all known continents as far back as records show. It therefore falls under the heading of 'Sui Generis' and acts as a stand alone therapy devoid of any direct connotations with acupuncture. If you are looking to slate acupuncture I suggest you open your trolling dialogue on a thread pertaining to your objective. Good day to you.
@shalokin So if anybody has another opinion based on facts, he is trolling or acting like a child?
Gua sha can help skin and muscles and feels good. No question about that. But that's about it. I won't help with any organ problems, infections, the common cold, ect....
I don't "slate" acupuncture or gua sha, but there is no Qi or and no "energy blockages" (and that is the connection between both). It just doesn't exist. If reality helps "the cause": I don't care! But reality helps sick people.
@meggaiwa OK you win, I denounce all Chinese and alternative medicines, their theories and approaches to patient care. For anyone reading this thread, please ignore my comments and listen to meggaiwa. There are no such things as blockages apart from my ears now being unblocked to the truth that meggaiwa speaks. Allopathic medicine is the only medicine that should be trusted and science is infallible. In fact the concept of trust is also unscientifically proven, so please ignore any emotions
@shalokin that may fall into this category. Ah, I feel better now for the release of following such a nonsense for so long, but my feelings don't count anymore so I shall need to seek approval from a GP to see if I may continue to have any say in my perception of the world. meggaiwa, you are an innovative speaker and I thank you for getting me back on track, the world would flourish far more beautifully if we could all follow at least a little of your brilliance. Much indebted to you, thanks.
Then enlighten me with facts and not just your statements how stupid I am compared to you?
In another video somebody said the "redish color" is "poison coming out" for example. Explain to me HOW it would be possible for gua sha to help with influenza for example and how its 1000s years old theory can be still valid if it was created without any knowledge of viruses, bacteria, organ functions, hormons, neurotransmitters ect? Is GS able to do the job of antibiotics?
@shalokin I do win. It can help skin and muscles and feels good, is that not enough?!
As you said, it is thousands of years old, long before anybody understood how the body works and what illnesses are. In a time people didn't know that bacteria and viruses exist and had absolutly no idea what function the organs have.
Nobody has to listen to *me*. But neither to concepts for which any proof is not possible and are not based an real things.
This techniques should NEVER be done over bone. It is used to breakup fascial restrictions which are found in soft tissue only. There is no value in doing this over the spinous processes like he starts with.
That's not scrapping or scratching, there is no open wound on the skin or anything like that.
Same parts of the muscle under the skin are harder than others, so there is more irritation of these muscle parts and scar-tissue, ergo more blood circulation: That and the histamin reaction leads to the red marks. It has NOTHING to do with scratching or wounds or anything like that.
Try it yourself with a spoon on your arm. It will react exactly like that.
@meggaiwa If you try it on your bizeps for example you will experience that some parts of the muscle are just harder (as you see in every normal massage) and there is more "physical resistance". And on bodyparts with bones directly under the muscle/skin (spinal core, ribbs, joints, whatever), because there is more pressure (so it's no sign of a "blockage").
In western physical therapy this is also used and called "Graston Technique".
@meggaiwa This technique can't heal all the stuff some people say - as acupuncture is not able to heal anything beside the placebo effect - but in physical therapy and problems with the muscle or scar tissue it can definitely help.
And again: Used the right way it is red because of the circulation and the histamin reaction, not because the skin is iniured or anything like that. There is no danger of infection (if done right).
@meggaiwa "This technique can't heal all the stuff some people say - as acupuncture is not able to heal anything beside the placebo effect"
This is not an acupuncture therapy, so why are you mentioning the common line placebo argument with regards to this video?
You posted on another Guasha video 3 months ago that this was the first time you were made aware of this treatment, so you have no knowledge on the subject and should therefore remain silent.
The Graston technique was modeled on these treatments to create a business where the tools used could be sold for $5000+ to only people who had taken the $5000+ courses in the subject.
You can only have 2 motives here, either you are deliberately misinforming the subject or you are simply exercising your need to appear clever, which is tantamount to a child's response.
Either way you are not helping the cause of natural medicine and are acting against the human cause. Behave yourself.
@shalokin Where did you get that information? A quick ebay search shows only one graston kit for about $500. On wikipedia's page for graston, which unfortunately gives very little information, shows the same graston kit, which does not include the tool that the practitioner in this video uses.
@HalfAsianGuy Hi, the tools on ebay are used items but already have 6 bids. They're glorified bits of metal nothing more, would like a set though ($150) tops when their business gets tired. Do not remember exactly where I searched, certainly don't rely on Wikipedia for research, if interested you made want to look into career development sites for osteopathy. The implement used in this video is an ox horn sanded and shaped, cost around $3 each, many teachings of guasha relay that the horns of an
@HalfAsianGuy ox gather toxins and therefore are used with the theory that they act as a toxin magnet. It is suggested that patients should have their own tool just for themselves because of toxin implication. I used to use these horns but prefer the flatter bits of horn available everywhere. Hope this helps. For the post below,many creams can be used with this treatments, but personally prefer to use white tiger balm or polar balm to combat heat and raised BP that occurs temporarily
@HalfAsianGuy had a look again at the ebay auction to which you refer, the $500 calling is for only one item out of five tools enhancing the con further than I thought, not sure as to why you addressed me yet but thought to share.
@shalokin That is one stupid tangent shalokin. This guy isn't selling anything. At worst is what he doing any worse than psychotherapy or massage school? thumbs down for you.
@appledroplarry This was a reply to a youtube troll further down the comments section, to stop him filling these threads with nonsense that damages the reputations of natural healing techniques. No pudding for you either you wally.
@shalokin Well, now I have knowledge and the connection between gua sha and acupuncture is obvious. It's kind of based on exactly the same principles (energy flow, blockage, ect). Or am I wrong?
@loiseue not all parts of the body illicit a histamine reaction. There is a build up of lactic acid, calcium, and other substances excreted through sweat that get trapped in the muscle and skin layers that are released through the surface of the skin and dispersed or reabsorbed appropriately back into the muscles and bloodstream. gua sha and cupping are different yet similar in this process.
@theunlistedmuffin123 I agree with you but how do you explain how he rubs the area the same yet some parts get red and some do not. I think he is saying that the parts that get red have a problem but the areas that do not turn red do not have a problem.
The hominems started when when you accused all acupuncturists of being nothing more than prayer fairy's, albeit some of them may operate solely on this level. I have admiration for modern medicine but they offer very little in the way of cures and understanding of the root cause of disease, the majority of remedies are symptom suppressors and pain management systems, not cures. Chinese medicine teaches to take responsibility for your own diseases and to stop perceiving the world....
@shalokin as something that is happening to us, rather than something we have personally created, herein lies difficult realizations to overcome and to fathom with the patients. Facts as you say are only probabilities from different viewpoints, all of science changes its mind regularly and new facts are forged ready to be discarded when the next real real fact wins the day. All the patients in my care are not interested whether some neigh sayer wants proof and neither do I. here's a fact, END
@shalokin I am willing to bet you that I can find more scientificly valid cures from modern medicine than Chinese medicine. In addition I would like to point out that you do not take into account symptoms and illnesses that derive from heredity, which are hardly illnesses that "we have personally created". Science and medicine is a self correcting procedure which at least according to some people here, Chinese medicine is not.
@shalokin Naturally you are entitled to disregard evidence and believe whatever you want to, but this does not make your position valid or true. Medicine is based in careful observation and analysis whereas Chinese medicine relies on tradition. On any given day, I would rather entrust my life to the hands of a doctor rather than a person whose skills in healing include manipulation of invisible, untestable and unproven forces and substances. END
@Pharmaecopia1 tell her that our time together was unscientific or should I be focusing on the 3 patients I have tomorrow suffering with; manic depression, post miscarriage and parkinsons, or should I cancel all appointments and turn my back on them because someone on the internet I know nothing of says I am playing dress up and my efforts are governed by daydreams. I am not at war with you my friend, so can you stop throwing stones in my direction, thank you, have fun x
@shalokin daughter by her very own brother, how can we know, but how can we rule this out. This patient has since given speeches at her stroke club regarding her sexual abuse and is also now a key helper at the same centre. I am posting this just to illustrate that there are people with no conventional help available to them and to emphasise how undefined and random human suffering can be. Should I
@shalokin once in her life she felt free. (this was the point that communal correspondence reduced medications) “We can’t solve problems by using the same thinking that created them” Albert Einstein. Now this leaves us with the quandary whether the rapes lead to the stroke, and whether her mothers stroke was caused by the suppression of emotions regarding the serial rape of her
@shalokin spoke of was only on the surface and that deep down her blood was boiling. Home work therefore was to find a time and a place to SCREEEAM!! This she did within a couple of days while I kept in touch on the phone to monitor proceedings. Booked the next treatment in for 5 days later as I wished to see her as soon as. BP on this occasion almost normal and the patient relayed that for
@shalokin but chose not to face up to the magnitude of what had gone on. I regularly monitor blood pressure during treatments (it’s my thing, helps to iron out sceptics when they see their readings) and when the patient revealed her darkened past BP rose to 185/80, fearful of another stroke I took measures to calm her down until she was in safe limits again. From this I concurred that the forgiveness she
@shalokin had to learn this on the job and believe that together we attained much for the lady’s standard of life. At around treatment 6 or so, the patient said she felt comfortable enough to divulge her secret, it was that she was raped on a weekly basis as a child by her mothers brother at the age of 14. She said that she had forgiven him (now deceased) and believed that her Mother knew it was going on
@shalokin rehabilitation was the backbone of our treatments together, incremented in targets of 5% with the truth being relayed that 100% recovery was not going to happen. Therefore hope in this case was part of the treatment plan (placebo if you like) but very crucial to get right to avoid depression when one is left without it, and too much expectation again leading to depression when not fully realised. I
@shalokin hypertension medicines and 10mg of statins per day, with numerous side effects. Her mother too had suffered a stroke. Walking stick discarded, speech back to 8/10 and tongue paralysis almost negligible. Communications with her GP and myself over a period of 2 months managed to reduce all medications until she was only taking 5mg of perindopril per day for high blood pressure. Realistic
@shalokin individualised treatment planning; example of a patient for you: 73 year old lady who had suffered a stroke 4 months previous to meeting, coming from a stroke centre that has no rehabilitation in place due to the fact that according to “scientific rule” it doesn’t exist. She could hardly speak without being inaudible and getting highly frustrated, assisted by a walking stick, 35mg of 2 brands of
@shalokin Medicine is for the terminally ill in helping them to cope with their departure but must add this takes a special person to be surrounded by so much emotional pain and grief. Constitutional makeup is not something Chinese Medicine is brushing under the carpet, these guys are not fools, family medical history is an essential part of consultation and diagnosis and only leads to further
@shalokin your men should step in and rightly so. The preventative side of Chinese Medicine, (how the hell can that be proved eh, whether true or not) is measured by following the path of disease from Qi to blood to organ depth and stopping the process before it reaches the next level, this is a thankless pursuit but something the superior physicians take very seriously. The final place for Chinese
@shalokin of the time thus far, who or what else do you know that can do this naturally? Chinese Medicine has its correct and proper place alongside Western Medicine but at present the structure is all wrong, the first port of call should be to see a barefoot not the last when all other methods are exhausted. Chinese Medicine is not for when the onset of disease has gone passed a specific point, this is where
@shalokin traditional theories, yes, but has been evolving constantly and at no time more so than with today’s accelerated communication. Korean Hand Therapy for instance was only developed in the last 20 years and is being proven time and time again with thermo imaging of the organ system and has proven in personal experience to lower or higher blood pressure on demand with all patients, 100%
@shalokin designed to advocate pharmaceuticals. Until the trials are arranged in a way that pit you against other medical interventions and the placebo effect is established by a separate care group with no treatment, the results will remain constantly partisan and inaccurate. Fortunately this world of medicine has historical form of survival with or without gratification or sponsorship and is based on
@shalokin I mentioned the hand you were dealt (hereditary constitutional traits) quality and quantity of jing, earlier, and that this cannot be refuelled. I am not disregarding evidence, I am saying that I take my evidence from personal experience in the clinical setting and not by randomized trials that were
@shalokin Actually I never said such a thing, but rather kept in criticizing the phenomena/practice itself while you are the one who has to resort to attacking me or my heredity personally. Is your position really that weak? It would also help if you could reply to me instead of commenting on the video and replying to yourself. I agree to some extent with you that western medicine has a lot of remedies for symptoms, but claiming that they don't have cures is proposterous.
I was referring to genes as something you would understand, I should have used the word stock, the physical values the milkman gave your mother. Of course I am being vague, if you can make a rule, it's not Chinese Medicine, I was specifically not talking in absolutes to emphasize the fact that disease manifests in individuals from different root causes and why testing or applying acupuncture with set protocols never yields remarkable results.
@shalokin The aim of acupuncture is to restore homeostasis to the body in order for it to heal itself and why the placebo effect should not be discouraged or separated from outcomes. Call me superstitious as I believe you have nothing more to teach me other than repetitive nuances that seek to categorize the world into a black and white synopsis that helps you feel secure. Sorry to tell you brother, life ain't like that, the more you know will only highlight all that you don't, best of luck x
@shalokin You might not realize it, but not all people live in the UK or the States so your reference to a milkman is somewhat arrogant. But it's nice to see you have to resort to ad hominems to get your message across. Maybe I should have been more clear with what I meant with vague descriptions: Your statements are not supported by science. I'm not saying that Chinese Medicine does not have positive effects or some truth to it, but...
@Pharmaecopia1 ... it does not mean labeling things where causes and cures are known as an imbalance of a substance that is not proven to exist would somehow make it valid or realistic. Stick to facts if you want to talk about medicine. You can label me as wanting to feel more secure or however you want, but as a person who is not a scientist, but is interested in and in debt to modern medicine, I can not agree with your views about medicine, science or probably the world as a whole.
Omfg... You are not a doctor. You are literally scraping the skin off her neck, you are exposing bacteria and other microbial life to open tissue. You should not be allowed to do this, people shouldn't pay you, and YOU SHOULD NOT CALL YOURSELF A DOCTOR. Get a doctorate then call yourself a doctor.
The double blind testing which they have made the gold standard is implemented in law and remains a stain on Chinese Medicine and is outliving the stupidity of the man who insisted upon it. My friend you are also commenting upon a Gua Sha video, this is not acupuncture. 20 % of all patients that visit their GP's go undiagnosed, yet are still prescribed pharmaceuticals with side effects, this is naughty and complacent.
@TheRenmai I would be interested to see that where do you get your figure of 20% from? What are your sources and in what country does this happen? I know that gua sha is not acupuncture. I originally commented on this post because expatleanie promoted this as working on a long list of symptoms/illnesses without any kind of backing from science and this just rubs me the wrong way.
I m western and the first time i went i was sceptic but after my first time i really did feel better, perfect for heat stroke, chronic pain , chronic illness , fever and colds it looks painful only ,but each person experiences it dif. did i mention after this treatment u sleep better. Who wouldnt want that without having to take pills. i think people r scared of it coz it looks painful , really i think pills have far more possible worse side effects .
@expatleanie Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy at its best. Translates to "After this, therefore because of this" Just because your back is better, does not overrule the scientific consensus of acupuncture not being a form of medicine and the lack of scientific evidence to support the positive effects of acupuncture except as a placebo.
@Pharmaecopia1 hey never said acupuncture doesnt work. in fact done both . sorry but i do prefer alternative medicine in general and would only see a western style doc for surgery or broken bones thats it.I think I m lucky to live in a country where both types of medicinal treatments western and chinese treatments are availible at low cost.
@expatleanie I actually live in Hong Kong so I have the same opportunities in terms of treatment. However your opinion or preference does not play a role in whether something is medically valid or functional. It is your choice to use acupuncture to treat illness, but decades of scientific research in the matter point to acupuncture not being medicine, but superstition.
@Pharmaecopia1 Medical research promotes placebo as an effective healing phenomenon, yet they themselves have outlawed its use in Western Medical practices. Scientific testing can only prove that which it can measure and at present acupunctural testing is measured against the placebo effect only, something they have outlawed.
@TheRenmai Medical research does support that placebo treatment can have positive effects on the individual, but this is hardly proper treatment or would you disagree? Acupuncture has been studied in several proper studies with blind and double blind testing with it failing the tests miserably and thus I can not see why this would be called medicine instead of superstition?
@expatleanie Very well said, I never had faith in this stuff but after so many years of feeling like crap and taking painkillers, I had enough. i'm in love w/ this kinda stuff
@SuperMisssexy22 doesn't hurt at all its actually pretty relaxing and its only showing wat is stressed and tense in a way u know where it is that needs relief
@shalokin Ahh. It makes a lot more sense when a bit of western medical science is applied to it. In that sense gua sha would help patients with kidney problems because the gua sha practitioner is releasing the wastes the impaired kidneys aren't able to filter.
@madpinoy5683 this is a beautiful theory but it won't hold up to the practical reality that many patients have unavailable sha to play with. The only constants I have found are below the clavicle and along the latissimus dorsi, but have yet to try on someone who lives extremely healthy and maintains their flexibility, such as a yoga teacher.
@shalokin Forced purging therefore fits with the analogy of deficient Kidneys but would need to be administered via cupping, massage or the more severe technique of Kerokan (coining) I gave the information credit and scanned back my experiences with Kidney deficient patients to see if there was indication of a connection, but it doesn't fit with this style of guasha, as you do not pursue the scraping out of theory alone and are governed by the erythemas you surface. Cheers
A man was walking down a sidewalk past a insane asylum one day. He heard the patients in the yard beyond a big wooden fence chanting, THIRTEEN, THIRTEEN , THIRTEEN!!! He stuck his head up to a knot hole to look through and he was immediately poked in the eye followed by a new chant of FOURTEEN, FOURTEEN, FOURTEEN!!!!
I don't mean to sound overly skeptical, but the fact that the "blockages" occur in their most blatant (i.e. reddest) form over bony prominences causes one to think that it may just be irritating the skin between two opposing forces, in this case the tool and the spine. Then again, according to this chap, it's probably just indicating a sore neck.
OneAdventure 1 week ago
@OneAdventure This patient has real issues with her thoracic and cervical vertebrae, it is very uncommon to produce response in these areas, predominantly the areas most affected are embedded in the musculature tissue. This can be forecasted when you press into the specific area with the fingertips leaving white imprints that take longer to return to the natural flesh tone. These techniques are so scientific and replicable that it really shouldn't warrant discussion,
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@shalokin but it always seems to generate judgement before it is understood. I keep track of this thread to help to diminish this judgement and to encourage people to keep an open mind regarding useful therapies available. Peace x
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@shalokin Scientific? So what exactly does the blockage block? (and again, I don't say it's not useful per so, I just asked a question). In another video a guy said the redish color is "the poison coming out". Do you believe that?
meggaiwa 2 days ago
@meggaiwa Is this a 3 part assignment you have set me. I find a wave of negativity come over me when I see your name in my inbox, there is a reason for this and it is not because I find you challenging. If you are interested in these arts as your page suggests then enrol yourself on a small course and gain your answers through organic experience, you already know that I recommend this particular avenue. There is truth in what the guy says about poisons coming out, but could be more likened to
shalokin 1 day ago
@shalokin blood cells that congregate and need releasing, breaking up in order for free flow to return. Blockages simply mean obstructing the body's natural mechanism's as you would find with any type of tumour. Peace brother x
shalokin 1 day ago
You are scratching a healthy skin with a shell, of course it is going to turn red. That is not stress showing up, it is the skin showing irritation.
UnitedKorean 1 week ago in playlist Acupuncture
Try this on a really dark black person.........
utube793 3 weeks ago
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E2JamesChong 1 month ago
there should be a video where this same technique is done with a different object and compare it against this horn that he's using and see what the differences are, if any.
Ecclesiastes114 1 month ago
@Ecclesiastes114 The differences lie with the ergonomic comfort of the practitioner and their personal choice. Experience through supplying different tools to colleagues has led to the acceptance that most of the horns imported (natural or flat) are too thin to start with and result in discomfort feedback from patient when sensitive areas are addressed. Many people use the lid of a jar, I think this looks cheap but the reality is Gua Sha could be performed with a pebble and some seaweed juice.
shalokin 1 month ago
@shalokin hmm.. interesting. Probably give it a try sometime.
Ecclesiastes114 1 month ago
@Ecclesiastes114 My acupuncturist poured a little white flower on my back, and then scraped it with a porcelain soup spoon. Just thought I should let you know. :)
crpsaiyan 1 month ago
it doesn't hurt, unless you apply a lot of pressure.
tororotchi 1 month ago
It really works. Try it yourself.
rkarunia 1 month ago
Ouch?
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This therapy does not hurt or break the skin. It is basically a "hickie", and releases pockets of extravasated blood that are trapped by muscle , spasm & scar tissue. It provides for greater circulation that will carry the old blood away and allow new, nourishing blood to enter the tissues.
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mcjohnsonsgirl 2 months ago
looks like one hell of a way to get a brilliant infection!!! Next time donate your money to a charity, that would make you feel far better than giving it to this quack.
nikkifromsaco 2 months ago
@nikkifromsaco This method of "barefoot doctoring" does not break the skin, but simply releases extravasated blood.
mcjohnsonsgirl 2 months ago
@nikkifromsaco you do not actually break the skin so I do not see the relevant of your comment.
colorblindsoul 1 month ago
skin...irritated. not acupuncture that I knew.
nikorudied 2 months ago in playlist Acupuncture
looks painful not my thing i guess
stefanjetrahec 2 months ago
does it hurt :/
Techerd101 2 months ago
what is he doing ! WTF ! he's nearly making here neck bleed in the beginning :(
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@cretnobite He could not make her bleed with that tool.
CyberDragonZero 2 months ago
Will this leave scars?
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good site
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ahmedslem10 3 months ago
Later that night her husband was brought ot jail for claim of physical abuse!!
CCMAR 3 months ago
@CCMAR what a dumb comment---r u abusive? chill! thx loveugodbless tj kabbalah matthewsheaprd madonnalicious
KabbalahWestCoast 3 months ago
@KabbalahWestCoast ahh you got dead humor. I get it. No worries
CCMAR 3 months ago
@CCMAR LOL....no kidding....and he was also charged for ripping other clients off to create bruises. What I don't understand though about some of these Chinese and other pseudo-medical practices....is that they're still pretty weak after sooo much of time spent in all these crazy methods plus its not like they live any longer than average american or anything. Plus they don't get to enjoy Hamburgers either...LOL
boyaccent 2 months ago
Is this similar to coining?
MizzPeaceIsCool 3 months ago
The tool he is using is a horn that has been smoothed off at the fat side, most likely a buffalo horn
Luheguf 3 months ago
I am Taiwanese.
I was taught that we do this from left side not right side.
Zuning118 3 months ago
@Zuning118 It's done from the right side for women.
nuvostyle 2 months ago
my mom does this to me but with a coin or sppon
bough1995 3 months ago
This method Always rejuvenated mum. when she s unwell, the purplish red patches just appear very quickly and we know she will be brand new again. Everyone who feels unwell should try this
jingle1bell 3 months ago
1:01 - Anyone know what that chunk of white stuff is that's inside the thing he's got in his hand? I'm sure it's a kind of cream of some sort, but exactly what would be nice to know.
LazyMan9000 3 months ago
@LazyMan9000 please refer to a recent post of mine, hope this helps, you can also use massage oil, vics vapo rub, vaseline etc, with consideration for patient reaction to certain oils, ie nut allergies for starters, simple skin patch tests are advisable here, cheers
shalokin 3 months ago
Sand paper would be more effective!
junkietomato 4 months ago
este tipo no es acupunturista.... ¡¡ es un chanta ¡¡ Mula. ¿Quieren desprestigiar la acupuntura? Acupuntura es con agujas... y calor..... cambie el titulo... please, is not "acupunture" is "raspature" sorry.... broookture or.. acupunmentira- , respetuosamente.
viksonav 4 months ago
"Look! It's going red."
Exactly which colour were you expecting after scraping all the skin off?!
Eggtruck 4 months ago
@Eggtruck He's not scraping her skin off. She's not even in pain.
mlup 4 months ago
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@Eggtruck you know nothing!
PQQI 3 months ago
Don't knock it till you try it! I am a massage therapist and this modality works well when I have exhausted my deep tissue attempts on patients with scar tissue, adhesions, and chronically tonic muscles fibers.
lugocat1317 4 months ago
Dark magic! Kill the witch!
NMTD21 4 months ago
Im really weird because i feel like it would feel really good.
supersingingfreak 4 months ago
@supersingingfreak It does, actually! Much less painful than many of the deep tissue massages I've had, and just as effective, if not more so!
toralinda 4 months ago
How the hell can they feel good?!
75tim192l4 4 months ago
its red cause he is scraping the skin off
melissa81ful 4 months ago
It's not red because of stress or tension it's red because he just brook capillaries under the skin from rubbing to hard. This guy isn't the smartest of them out there !!
xXbigmanXx100 4 months ago
its red because shes bleeding
cascocat 4 months ago
he's tearing off skin.
cascocat 4 months ago
Polemic 'A controversial argument, especially one refuting or attacking a specific opinion or doctrine. 2. A person engaged in or inclined to controversy, argument,' I denounced all faith in alternative medicine in favour of supporting everything you speak of, but am still being accused of controversial argument. Strange paradox you present here. You win again, you have sublime form.
shalokin 4 months ago
Gua Sha is the Chinese name for a therapy that has origins in all known continents as far back as records show. It therefore falls under the heading of 'Sui Generis' and acts as a stand alone therapy devoid of any direct connotations with acupuncture. If you are looking to slate acupuncture I suggest you open your trolling dialogue on a thread pertaining to your objective. Good day to you.
shalokin 4 months ago
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meggaiwa 4 months ago
@shalokin So if anybody has another opinion based on facts, he is trolling or acting like a child?
Gua sha can help skin and muscles and feels good. No question about that. But that's about it. I won't help with any organ problems, infections, the common cold, ect....
I don't "slate" acupuncture or gua sha, but there is no Qi or and no "energy blockages" (and that is the connection between both). It just doesn't exist. If reality helps "the cause": I don't care! But reality helps sick people.
meggaiwa 4 months ago
@meggaiwa OK you win, I denounce all Chinese and alternative medicines, their theories and approaches to patient care. For anyone reading this thread, please ignore my comments and listen to meggaiwa. There are no such things as blockages apart from my ears now being unblocked to the truth that meggaiwa speaks. Allopathic medicine is the only medicine that should be trusted and science is infallible. In fact the concept of trust is also unscientifically proven, so please ignore any emotions
shalokin 4 months ago
@shalokin that may fall into this category. Ah, I feel better now for the release of following such a nonsense for so long, but my feelings don't count anymore so I shall need to seek approval from a GP to see if I may continue to have any say in my perception of the world. meggaiwa, you are an innovative speaker and I thank you for getting me back on track, the world would flourish far more beautifully if we could all follow at least a little of your brilliance. Much indebted to you, thanks.
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shalokin 4 months ago
@shalokin Polemic Nonsense.
Then enlighten me with facts and not just your statements how stupid I am compared to you?
In another video somebody said the "redish color" is "poison coming out" for example. Explain to me HOW it would be possible for gua sha to help with influenza for example and how its 1000s years old theory can be still valid if it was created without any knowledge of viruses, bacteria, organ functions, hormons, neurotransmitters ect? Is GS able to do the job of antibiotics?
meggaiwa 4 months ago
@shalokin I do win. It can help skin and muscles and feels good, is that not enough?!
As you said, it is thousands of years old, long before anybody understood how the body works and what illnesses are. In a time people didn't know that bacteria and viruses exist and had absolutly no idea what function the organs have.
Nobody has to listen to *me*. But neither to concepts for which any proof is not possible and are not based an real things.
meggaiwa 4 months ago
whys he scraping the back of her neck.
Terra1311 4 months ago
how bad does it hurt??
xxbagoshnixx 4 months ago
This techniques should NEVER be done over bone. It is used to breakup fascial restrictions which are found in soft tissue only. There is no value in doing this over the spinous processes like he starts with.
xanahsky 5 months ago
holy shit, your shaven her skin off. its red because of blockage? heck know she is bleeding
brummell76 5 months ago
it's kinda like getting a hickey well same principal almost
Espinozable 5 months ago
That's not scrapping or scratching, there is no open wound on the skin or anything like that.
Same parts of the muscle under the skin are harder than others, so there is more irritation of these muscle parts and scar-tissue, ergo more blood circulation: That and the histamin reaction leads to the red marks. It has NOTHING to do with scratching or wounds or anything like that.
Try it yourself with a spoon on your arm. It will react exactly like that.
meggaiwa 5 months ago
@meggaiwa If you try it on your bizeps for example you will experience that some parts of the muscle are just harder (as you see in every normal massage) and there is more "physical resistance". And on bodyparts with bones directly under the muscle/skin (spinal core, ribbs, joints, whatever), because there is more pressure (so it's no sign of a "blockage").
In western physical therapy this is also used and called "Graston Technique".
meggaiwa 5 months ago
@meggaiwa This technique can't heal all the stuff some people say - as acupuncture is not able to heal anything beside the placebo effect - but in physical therapy and problems with the muscle or scar tissue it can definitely help.
And again: Used the right way it is red because of the circulation and the histamin reaction, not because the skin is iniured or anything like that. There is no danger of infection (if done right).
meggaiwa 5 months ago
@meggaiwa "This technique can't heal all the stuff some people say - as acupuncture is not able to heal anything beside the placebo effect"
This is not an acupuncture therapy, so why are you mentioning the common line placebo argument with regards to this video?
You posted on another Guasha video 3 months ago that this was the first time you were made aware of this treatment, so you have no knowledge on the subject and should therefore remain silent.
shalokin 5 months ago
The Graston technique was modeled on these treatments to create a business where the tools used could be sold for $5000+ to only people who had taken the $5000+ courses in the subject.
You can only have 2 motives here, either you are deliberately misinforming the subject or you are simply exercising your need to appear clever, which is tantamount to a child's response.
Either way you are not helping the cause of natural medicine and are acting against the human cause. Behave yourself.
shalokin 5 months ago 12
@shalokin Where did you get that information? A quick ebay search shows only one graston kit for about $500. On wikipedia's page for graston, which unfortunately gives very little information, shows the same graston kit, which does not include the tool that the practitioner in this video uses.
HalfAsianGuy 3 months ago
@HalfAsianGuy Hi, the tools on ebay are used items but already have 6 bids. They're glorified bits of metal nothing more, would like a set though ($150) tops when their business gets tired. Do not remember exactly where I searched, certainly don't rely on Wikipedia for research, if interested you made want to look into career development sites for osteopathy. The implement used in this video is an ox horn sanded and shaped, cost around $3 each, many teachings of guasha relay that the horns of an
shalokin 3 months ago
@HalfAsianGuy ox gather toxins and therefore are used with the theory that they act as a toxin magnet. It is suggested that patients should have their own tool just for themselves because of toxin implication. I used to use these horns but prefer the flatter bits of horn available everywhere. Hope this helps. For the post below,many creams can be used with this treatments, but personally prefer to use white tiger balm or polar balm to combat heat and raised BP that occurs temporarily
shalokin 3 months ago
@HalfAsianGuy had a look again at the ebay auction to which you refer, the $500 calling is for only one item out of five tools enhancing the con further than I thought, not sure as to why you addressed me yet but thought to share.
shalokin 3 months ago
@shalokin That is one stupid tangent shalokin. This guy isn't selling anything. At worst is what he doing any worse than psychotherapy or massage school? thumbs down for you.
appledroplarry 1 month ago
@appledroplarry This was a reply to a youtube troll further down the comments section, to stop him filling these threads with nonsense that damages the reputations of natural healing techniques. No pudding for you either you wally.
shalokin 1 month ago
@shalokin not sure what a "Wally" is or why it would want pudding but I apologize for my mistake.
appledroplarry 1 month ago
@appledroplarry Thank you, we are all square with the house then. Strength and Peace to you x
shalokin 1 month ago
@shalokin Well, now I have knowledge and the connection between gua sha and acupuncture is obvious. It's kind of based on exactly the same principles (energy flow, blockage, ect). Or am I wrong?
meggaiwa 4 months ago
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meggaiwa 5 months ago
so why some part are not red if he press that hard
loiseue 5 months ago
@loiseue not all parts of the body illicit a histamine reaction. There is a build up of lactic acid, calcium, and other substances excreted through sweat that get trapped in the muscle and skin layers that are released through the surface of the skin and dispersed or reabsorbed appropriately back into the muscles and bloodstream. gua sha and cupping are different yet similar in this process.
LAmobileACU 5 months ago
He's scrapped the skin bloody and raw! She'll be lucky not to get infected. That is insane.
thesecolors 5 months ago
maybe her necks red.. cos ur scratching the FUCK out of it with some kinda shoe horn..
Moderm101 5 months ago
@Moderm101 You're crazy man! : )
appledroplarry 5 months ago
@appledroplarry thats how i roll MAN!
Moderm101 5 months ago
lesson learned: scrape hard, skin will turn red. wow, that is some mind boggling shit right there
theunlistedmuffin123 5 months ago
@theunlistedmuffin123 I agree with you but how do you explain how he rubs the area the same yet some parts get red and some do not. I think he is saying that the parts that get red have a problem but the areas that do not turn red do not have a problem.
appledroplarry 5 months ago
Let me guess... this is the newest treatment for cancer?
eBiology 5 months ago
Looks like the Atari logo, product placement win! lol
dees13 5 months ago
@dees13 Lawl. u win a cookie. xD
A1234567890J1 5 months ago
Very strange concept to me. But has the back of her neck been shaved?!?!
donnap83 5 months ago
It looks realyyy bad srsly :P
Sadoos 6 months ago
Had this done the other day! Now my upper back feels sooo good! Fuck paracetomol or pain relief.
OhNoThanks 6 months ago 19
@OhNoThanks Yeah, scraping the skin off my neck would feel sooo good too!
Roksonixx 4 months ago
hoory shit that rooks sore
noway2you 6 months ago
The hominems started when when you accused all acupuncturists of being nothing more than prayer fairy's, albeit some of them may operate solely on this level. I have admiration for modern medicine but they offer very little in the way of cures and understanding of the root cause of disease, the majority of remedies are symptom suppressors and pain management systems, not cures. Chinese medicine teaches to take responsibility for your own diseases and to stop perceiving the world....
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin as something that is happening to us, rather than something we have personally created, herein lies difficult realizations to overcome and to fathom with the patients. Facts as you say are only probabilities from different viewpoints, all of science changes its mind regularly and new facts are forged ready to be discarded when the next real real fact wins the day. All the patients in my care are not interested whether some neigh sayer wants proof and neither do I. here's a fact, END
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin I am willing to bet you that I can find more scientificly valid cures from modern medicine than Chinese medicine. In addition I would like to point out that you do not take into account symptoms and illnesses that derive from heredity, which are hardly illnesses that "we have personally created". Science and medicine is a self correcting procedure which at least according to some people here, Chinese medicine is not.
Pharmaecopia1 6 months ago
@shalokin Naturally you are entitled to disregard evidence and believe whatever you want to, but this does not make your position valid or true. Medicine is based in careful observation and analysis whereas Chinese medicine relies on tradition. On any given day, I would rather entrust my life to the hands of a doctor rather than a person whose skills in healing include manipulation of invisible, untestable and unproven forces and substances. END
Pharmaecopia1 6 months ago
@Pharmaecopia1 tell her that our time together was unscientific or should I be focusing on the 3 patients I have tomorrow suffering with; manic depression, post miscarriage and parkinsons, or should I cancel all appointments and turn my back on them because someone on the internet I know nothing of says I am playing dress up and my efforts are governed by daydreams. I am not at war with you my friend, so can you stop throwing stones in my direction, thank you, have fun x
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin daughter by her very own brother, how can we know, but how can we rule this out. This patient has since given speeches at her stroke club regarding her sexual abuse and is also now a key helper at the same centre. I am posting this just to illustrate that there are people with no conventional help available to them and to emphasise how undefined and random human suffering can be. Should I
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin once in her life she felt free. (this was the point that communal correspondence reduced medications) “We can’t solve problems by using the same thinking that created them” Albert Einstein. Now this leaves us with the quandary whether the rapes lead to the stroke, and whether her mothers stroke was caused by the suppression of emotions regarding the serial rape of her
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin spoke of was only on the surface and that deep down her blood was boiling. Home work therefore was to find a time and a place to SCREEEAM!! This she did within a couple of days while I kept in touch on the phone to monitor proceedings. Booked the next treatment in for 5 days later as I wished to see her as soon as. BP on this occasion almost normal and the patient relayed that for
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin but chose not to face up to the magnitude of what had gone on. I regularly monitor blood pressure during treatments (it’s my thing, helps to iron out sceptics when they see their readings) and when the patient revealed her darkened past BP rose to 185/80, fearful of another stroke I took measures to calm her down until she was in safe limits again. From this I concurred that the forgiveness she
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin had to learn this on the job and believe that together we attained much for the lady’s standard of life. At around treatment 6 or so, the patient said she felt comfortable enough to divulge her secret, it was that she was raped on a weekly basis as a child by her mothers brother at the age of 14. She said that she had forgiven him (now deceased) and believed that her Mother knew it was going on
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin rehabilitation was the backbone of our treatments together, incremented in targets of 5% with the truth being relayed that 100% recovery was not going to happen. Therefore hope in this case was part of the treatment plan (placebo if you like) but very crucial to get right to avoid depression when one is left without it, and too much expectation again leading to depression when not fully realised. I
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin hypertension medicines and 10mg of statins per day, with numerous side effects. Her mother too had suffered a stroke. Walking stick discarded, speech back to 8/10 and tongue paralysis almost negligible. Communications with her GP and myself over a period of 2 months managed to reduce all medications until she was only taking 5mg of perindopril per day for high blood pressure. Realistic
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin individualised treatment planning; example of a patient for you: 73 year old lady who had suffered a stroke 4 months previous to meeting, coming from a stroke centre that has no rehabilitation in place due to the fact that according to “scientific rule” it doesn’t exist. She could hardly speak without being inaudible and getting highly frustrated, assisted by a walking stick, 35mg of 2 brands of
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin Medicine is for the terminally ill in helping them to cope with their departure but must add this takes a special person to be surrounded by so much emotional pain and grief. Constitutional makeup is not something Chinese Medicine is brushing under the carpet, these guys are not fools, family medical history is an essential part of consultation and diagnosis and only leads to further
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin your men should step in and rightly so. The preventative side of Chinese Medicine, (how the hell can that be proved eh, whether true or not) is measured by following the path of disease from Qi to blood to organ depth and stopping the process before it reaches the next level, this is a thankless pursuit but something the superior physicians take very seriously. The final place for Chinese
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin of the time thus far, who or what else do you know that can do this naturally? Chinese Medicine has its correct and proper place alongside Western Medicine but at present the structure is all wrong, the first port of call should be to see a barefoot not the last when all other methods are exhausted. Chinese Medicine is not for when the onset of disease has gone passed a specific point, this is where
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin traditional theories, yes, but has been evolving constantly and at no time more so than with today’s accelerated communication. Korean Hand Therapy for instance was only developed in the last 20 years and is being proven time and time again with thermo imaging of the organ system and has proven in personal experience to lower or higher blood pressure on demand with all patients, 100%
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin designed to advocate pharmaceuticals. Until the trials are arranged in a way that pit you against other medical interventions and the placebo effect is established by a separate care group with no treatment, the results will remain constantly partisan and inaccurate. Fortunately this world of medicine has historical form of survival with or without gratification or sponsorship and is based on
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin I mentioned the hand you were dealt (hereditary constitutional traits) quality and quantity of jing, earlier, and that this cannot be refuelled. I am not disregarding evidence, I am saying that I take my evidence from personal experience in the clinical setting and not by randomized trials that were
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin Actually I never said such a thing, but rather kept in criticizing the phenomena/practice itself while you are the one who has to resort to attacking me or my heredity personally. Is your position really that weak? It would also help if you could reply to me instead of commenting on the video and replying to yourself. I agree to some extent with you that western medicine has a lot of remedies for symptoms, but claiming that they don't have cures is proposterous.
Pharmaecopia1 6 months ago
Neck perin!
wolfizzey 6 months ago
hes rubbing the skinn off her neck!??
Moderm101 6 months ago
I was referring to genes as something you would understand, I should have used the word stock, the physical values the milkman gave your mother. Of course I am being vague, if you can make a rule, it's not Chinese Medicine, I was specifically not talking in absolutes to emphasize the fact that disease manifests in individuals from different root causes and why testing or applying acupuncture with set protocols never yields remarkable results.
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin The aim of acupuncture is to restore homeostasis to the body in order for it to heal itself and why the placebo effect should not be discouraged or separated from outcomes. Call me superstitious as I believe you have nothing more to teach me other than repetitive nuances that seek to categorize the world into a black and white synopsis that helps you feel secure. Sorry to tell you brother, life ain't like that, the more you know will only highlight all that you don't, best of luck x
shalokin 6 months ago
@shalokin You might not realize it, but not all people live in the UK or the States so your reference to a milkman is somewhat arrogant. But it's nice to see you have to resort to ad hominems to get your message across. Maybe I should have been more clear with what I meant with vague descriptions: Your statements are not supported by science. I'm not saying that Chinese Medicine does not have positive effects or some truth to it, but...
Pharmaecopia1 6 months ago
@Pharmaecopia1 ... it does not mean labeling things where causes and cures are known as an imbalance of a substance that is not proven to exist would somehow make it valid or realistic. Stick to facts if you want to talk about medicine. You can label me as wanting to feel more secure or however you want, but as a person who is not a scientist, but is interested in and in debt to modern medicine, I can not agree with your views about medicine, science or probably the world as a whole.
Pharmaecopia1 6 months ago
Oh go away to the comment below me. Don't say anything of you yourself not tried it.
OhNoThanks 6 months ago
Omfg... You are not a doctor. You are literally scraping the skin off her neck, you are exposing bacteria and other microbial life to open tissue. You should not be allowed to do this, people shouldn't pay you, and YOU SHOULD NOT CALL YOURSELF A DOCTOR. Get a doctorate then call yourself a doctor.
braedencowbrough 6 months ago in playlist Acupuncture
The double blind testing which they have made the gold standard is implemented in law and remains a stain on Chinese Medicine and is outliving the stupidity of the man who insisted upon it. My friend you are also commenting upon a Gua Sha video, this is not acupuncture. 20 % of all patients that visit their GP's go undiagnosed, yet are still prescribed pharmaceuticals with side effects, this is naughty and complacent.
TheRenmai 7 months ago
@TheRenmai I would be interested to see that where do you get your figure of 20% from? What are your sources and in what country does this happen? I know that gua sha is not acupuncture. I originally commented on this post because expatleanie promoted this as working on a long list of symptoms/illnesses without any kind of backing from science and this just rubs me the wrong way.
Pharmaecopia1 6 months ago
wot da fok you doing you freak
biggurs 7 months ago
shouldnt hurt he uses vaseline on her back and rubs her with a some what smooth die of the horn
cooltjh4 7 months ago
I m western and the first time i went i was sceptic but after my first time i really did feel better, perfect for heat stroke, chronic pain , chronic illness , fever and colds it looks painful only ,but each person experiences it dif. did i mention after this treatment u sleep better. Who wouldnt want that without having to take pills. i think people r scared of it coz it looks painful , really i think pills have far more possible worse side effects .
expatleanie 7 months ago
@expatleanie Post hoc ergo propter hoc fallacy at its best. Translates to "After this, therefore because of this" Just because your back is better, does not overrule the scientific consensus of acupuncture not being a form of medicine and the lack of scientific evidence to support the positive effects of acupuncture except as a placebo.
Pharmaecopia1 7 months ago
@Pharmaecopia1 hey never said acupuncture doesnt work. in fact done both . sorry but i do prefer alternative medicine in general and would only see a western style doc for surgery or broken bones thats it.I think I m lucky to live in a country where both types of medicinal treatments western and chinese treatments are availible at low cost.
expatleanie 7 months ago
@expatleanie I actually live in Hong Kong so I have the same opportunities in terms of treatment. However your opinion or preference does not play a role in whether something is medically valid or functional. It is your choice to use acupuncture to treat illness, but decades of scientific research in the matter point to acupuncture not being medicine, but superstition.
Pharmaecopia1 7 months ago
@Pharmaecopia1 Medical research promotes placebo as an effective healing phenomenon, yet they themselves have outlawed its use in Western Medical practices. Scientific testing can only prove that which it can measure and at present acupunctural testing is measured against the placebo effect only, something they have outlawed.
TheRenmai 7 months ago
@TheRenmai Medical research does support that placebo treatment can have positive effects on the individual, but this is hardly proper treatment or would you disagree? Acupuncture has been studied in several proper studies with blind and double blind testing with it failing the tests miserably and thus I can not see why this would be called medicine instead of superstition?
Pharmaecopia1 7 months ago
@Pharmaecopia1 will draft a response to you, complex questioning warrants full thought, no rush eh ;)
TheRenmai 7 months ago
@expatleanie Very well said, I never had faith in this stuff but after so many years of feeling like crap and taking painkillers, I had enough. i'm in love w/ this kinda stuff
nicolesamsonite 7 months ago
Yo these medicine I get at the pharmacy stores don't even work for me. Two Gua Sha and the next day I'm fine again. Crazy huh?
anythingnew 7 months ago
@MassageTherapyVal oh ;/ it looks like it hurts >_<
MightySandwich79 7 months ago
Surely that must hurt ? xxx
SuperMisssexy22 7 months ago
@SuperMisssexy22 doesn't hurt at all its actually pretty relaxing and its only showing wat is stressed and tense in a way u know where it is that needs relief
11ryugami 7 months ago
@11ryugami its very interesting to see something different like this. xxx
SuperMisssexy22 7 months ago
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DjKevski 7 months ago
He's fucking up her back pretty bad.
straken9k1 7 months ago
I'd lay that chick on her back and give her the massage of her life haha
avigil600 7 months ago
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i find this video disgusting
turdmonkey67 7 months ago
whats that red stuff... blood?! >.<
MightySandwich79 7 months ago
this is retarded
Zander101084 7 months ago
Well, it's not so deep as the stuff the others here talk about, but i think her hair is looking really nice :D
(oh, I see it's 5 years old... probably another hairstyle now :p)
meggaiwa 7 months ago
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meggaiwa 7 months ago
@shalokin Ahh. It makes a lot more sense when a bit of western medical science is applied to it. In that sense gua sha would help patients with kidney problems because the gua sha practitioner is releasing the wastes the impaired kidneys aren't able to filter.
madpinoy5683 8 months ago
@madpinoy5683 this is a beautiful theory but it won't hold up to the practical reality that many patients have unavailable sha to play with. The only constants I have found are below the clavicle and along the latissimus dorsi, but have yet to try on someone who lives extremely healthy and maintains their flexibility, such as a yoga teacher.
shalokin 8 months ago
@shalokin Forced purging therefore fits with the analogy of deficient Kidneys but would need to be administered via cupping, massage or the more severe technique of Kerokan (coining) I gave the information credit and scanned back my experiences with Kidney deficient patients to see if there was indication of a connection, but it doesn't fit with this style of guasha, as you do not pursue the scraping out of theory alone and are governed by the erythemas you surface. Cheers
shalokin 8 months ago
acupuncture is great. i also like light axis healing.
MrMegaverse 8 months ago
A man was walking down a sidewalk past a insane asylum one day. He heard the patients in the yard beyond a big wooden fence chanting, THIRTEEN, THIRTEEN , THIRTEEN!!! He stuck his head up to a knot hole to look through and he was immediately poked in the eye followed by a new chant of FOURTEEN, FOURTEEN, FOURTEEN!!!!
appledroplarry 8 months ago 23
@appledroplarry i dont get it
MCcam2 5 months ago
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This name kerokan in Indonesia
besubarak 8 months ago
This name kerokan in Indonesia
besubarak 8 months ago
Very good doctor!
TheDocBoyd 8 months ago
RACIST TREATMENT!!!
josebrid 8 months ago
zhang needs to make more videos, nice and relaxing :P and makes me want to have acupuncture :)
LazySmi 8 months ago
i dont know how hard they rub, but does it hurt?
kimytaf 8 months ago
why is the ski n going red??
rweir541 8 months ago
Seems like a great way to contract hepatitis.
eBiology 8 months ago
This tecnique is so efective! I use it also with my patients and it's always a succes.
nometoqueslamoral 8 months ago
I love the way he says DEEP DOK RED:)
xeal1387 9 months ago 5
Feeling is believing, this is relaxing!
josinevwell 9 months ago
gua sha treatrrment is ze best treatrrment for neck probrem.
harper16 10 months ago
@harper16
See? It's getting red. See right here?
BCCButters711 9 months ago
@BCCButters711 See? It's getting red. This is dual channels.
What a smacktard, rofl
harper16 9 months ago
@harper16
This is what we call the blockages, bloc. It could be, it could be caused by cold in the wind. Funniest parts.
BCCButters711 9 months ago
@BCCButters711 "This movement can dissappear code wind"
eBiology 8 months ago
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iseachaixx 10 months ago