What the video tells us is, that Russell and the biblestudents said that Christs inauguration as king were to be in 1914. That is not true. He believed that Christ had started to rule (in heaven) in 1878, and that Hamageddon (kingdom on earth) would come in 1914
The JW's current teaching is, that Christ began to rule in heaven in 1914, and Harmageddon will come later.
The video tells us, that Russell and the biblestudents said, that Christ would begin ruling in 1914.
Russells own writings tells us, that Russel and the biblestudents actually said, that Christ's presence would start in 1874 and that Christ would begin ruling in 1878.
The video therefore do not offer the truth, when explaining what Russell and the biblestudents actually said back then, about the year for the beginning of Christs rule. Why do you think, they hid the trutth?
Studies done by Swiss psychiatrist Janner, Swedish psychiatrist Dr. Rylander and an American study by Precore all concluded that the rate of mental illness among Jehovah’s Witnesses is 32-40 times higher than the rest of the population..the religion is a sick,damaging cult, google the facts ( risking disfellowship if you do) ... or live a life of lies and mental slavery, good luck
In everyone of these videos people have always trashed Jws beliefs but not one has had a reasoning argeement based on scriptual facts all comments are based on pure emmotion not allowing an open agreement to emerge not on the dis thus failing to the higher power its as if people by what authority do they do?un knowingly have judge without cause,this world is in fact lost from the true God and seems that all hope in man is lost,thus making God are only savior
When a organization announces " Stay alive until 75 " you know they are trying to create a state of fear and anxiety, even if it was falsely constructed. The bottom line is the WTS is and always will be a religious publishing house with an agenda to attract attention to its published literature and to the very organization itself . Power and money in men's hands usually creates a surmountable level of corruption.
if you would really like to know the truth about Jehovah's Witnesses and NOT listen to videos like this one that LIE and spread untruths about Jehovah's Witnesses feel free to click on my username and see for your self the wonderful message and hope that we lovingly share with everyone on our Earth. Have a Wonderful Day.
They dont believe that drinking is a liquor of satan but if you drink too much as not to have control over your body or self it can be harmful spiritually and physically
Bdays are not celebrated cuz the head of John the baptist was cut off by king Herod as a present to his wife on her b day
thats funny because i remember seeing a video about and from jw' s and the dvd showed everything you just summed up and that video is free and was publised in 2010 , the whole dvd is about the beginning of the jw's and russel.. so next time get your facts straight :)
I am quite sure, that my facts are straight. It simply a question of checking the old magazines from the period. The Russellites have uploaded all Russells talks and writings, so visit their site and examine yourself what Russell said back then. I would encourage you to do so....and compare it to the video's info (which I have not seen).
With that said, I have learned through experience and examination, NOT to trust the Society's present version of their history.
@Billos76 PROOF: Jesus taught us to follow his example, study his every teaching=Matthew 28:20, John 17:3. TRUE DISCIPLES follow his example, teaching others and making disiples=Matthew 4:17, 5:5, 6:9,10, chapter 10, 24:14, 28:19,20. Jehovah's Witnesses are the only ones teaching God's name, making it known, and preaching GOD'S KINGDOM is coming! Acts 1;8, 5:42, 8:4, 13:21,49, 14:3,15,21, 20:20-25, Romans 10:10-17, John 3:16, 17:3. 1 Corinthians 2:10,16, 4:6 use the bible :D LIKE JW'S DO!!
i found the dvd in 7 parts on you tube, i will send you the link in a message.
it really doesn't really matter what they thought wrong in the beginning, fact remains that jw' s are the only ones who really live up to the worldwide preaching.
dawnbible (.com) have all volumes of Russels "Studies in the Scriptures" online
Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. IV, (1897), p. 621
"But now we are in the end of this Gospel age, and the Kingdom is being established or set up. Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874, A.D., according to the testimony of the prophets, to those who have ears to hear it: and the formal inauguration of his kingly office dates from April 1878, A.D."
@priisilla but they are not preaching the right message. The apostles preached about Jesus and his sacrifice. This is the GOSPEL that JWs are not preaching. They preach the possible reward, Paradise Earth, more than what's really important.
@jojoneli76 the thing we preach is matth 24:14. and there are many ways to start a conversation with someone, the easiest way is to tell that this earth isn't permanent, but a paradise will come.. in the hope people want to hear more about it.. we do preach about jesus and his sacrifice, so don't be ignorant please.
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand .My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. and my Father are one. John10:28-30
One n Greek is hies(hice) it means that they are co-equal: in authority, majesty, power,. glory, worship, creation, honor, judgment.
"Oh Penne which art in Stripper Factory and Beer Volcano Heaven, meaty be thy balls. Thy midgit come, thy sauce be yum. Thy will be done in marinara as it is in alfredo. Give us this day our daily garlic bread. And forgive us pirates our trespasses, as we forgive them pirates that trespass against us. And lead us into temptation, and deliver us some pizza. RAmen."
@aldearey If you are not JW then why defend them? JW are cult they have denied Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, where the Bible says Jesus Christ is God of the Old and New Testament. For Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God 2Corth 4:4 and creator Colo 1:15-18 and is equal with God foe he and God are "One".
People cannot handle the truth about God's revelation simply because they don't want the truth, all their despair is for freedom, like what Satan shown in the garden of Eden. U miss some of history, after 1st century there was a age called "Dark aged" and you known what It means? I think you don't because you're acting like a PRO without any references. If you were in the dark and seeing for light instantly, you might been blind, ask your doctor why? You need more research...
GOD SAYS HE HAS A SON.Jesus said he's God's Son-Matthew 3:17,Mark 9:7,Psalms 2:7,Luke 9:35,Prov.8:22.DEMONS,expelled said he's Son of God-Luke 4:41.Matt.8:29, Mark3:11.Others said he's Son-John1:14,49,3:17,5:18,36,6:46,10:36,Mark15:39,Matthew 26:63,27:40. Hebrews10:29,4:14.An angel said he's Son-Luke1:35.Jehovah God is Jesus' God-John15:1,16:3,30,20:17, Matt.26:26,36-44,64,Mark15:34,Ephesians1:17.Son=Mediator-1Timothy 2:5,Heb.1:3,4,8:6,9:15,12:24, Romans1:4,8,9,Acts7:55,56.
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS (Matthew 25:41).God never intended for one single person to end up in Hell. It is NOT God’s will that anyone should perish in their sins and go to Hell... “The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, NOT WILLING THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH, but that ALL should come to REPENTANCE” (2nd Peter 3:9).
It is NOT God’s fault if men and women are stubborn and unwilling to REPENT of their unbelief. Hell was NOT created for human beings but rather for Satan and his horde of demons. We are ALL without excuse for the wrong decisions we make in life—we CANNOT blame God. Perhaps other humans influenced us to make some wrong decisions but that’s not God’s fault.
I often tell people, “Don’t give up on God because men fail you.” Let Job be our example, “Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him” (Job 13:15). What a statement!
@ArchangelSean30 Nice, Everything I was going to say you already said. JW have prophesized the end like 22 times and that makes them a false prophet. Their an easy religion to debunk imo. Its easy to make them denie their own doctrine or except Christ. But they still through pride refuse to see the obvious. I feel so sorry for them because if they don't change i know their fate. Nice to see posts such as your my friend.
Jehovah Witnesses are cult, they denied Jesus Christ as God and Savior, bottom line NWT is from the pits of Hell. When changed the Bible you are a cult, when denied Jesus Christ deity you are cult, When you claim Jesus Christ and Michael are the same person your are cult, you denied the Holy Spirit as God your a cult! JW work in the spirit of the Anti Christ 1 john 2:22.
@ArchangelSean30 Go get the facts from the witnesses themselves and if ur still convinced they are bad people pretending to be good then get on with your life.
No other religion believes stronger in bible principles than Jehovas witnesses (christians). Its a nice way to live, by gods standards all found in the bible. Most people think going to church on sunday and sinning the rest of the week is faith. Its not.
And people ask why bad things happen to them, its their own fault. Mostly.
Jehovah Witnesses are not Christians by the Bible words, they are Anti-christ in spirit 1 john 2:22, they have altered KJV with Westcott and Hort text corrupting the Word of God. You go by religion, I go by faith, religion God hates and religion will sends you to Hell, it's faith in Jesus Christ alone.
When you denied Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior ,you are a cult, When you denied Jesus Christ is not God in flesh you are Cult, When you say Michael and Jesus Christ are the same you are a cult
@ArchangelSean30 If you knew the truth about god and everything that benefits you by worshiping him. Wouldn't you want to tell people about it instead of keeping it to yourself?
What good is it to have faith if you don't share it?
What good is it to know the Truth and just telling everyone else they are wrong (satanist) (pagans)? Similar to what your doing isn't it?
Jehovas witnesses spread the word because they talk the talk and walk the walk about what they believe.
@Thuggishdeer You talk the talk, walk the walk of Antichrist 1 john 2:22, you no scholars that support the NWT if anything they condemn it, it's follows the same as NIV, NASB, ASB, etc which are traced back too Westcott and Hort translations, these two Jesuits. Your NWT translations is from the pits of hell, it falls into comparison the KJV where it's a Word by Word translation.
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Matthew 1:23
And there came a fear on all: and they glorified God, saying, That a great prophet is risen up among us; and, That God hath visited his people. Luke 7:16
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. John 1:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. John 5:18
The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. John 10:33
...our Lord Jesus Christ: Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 1st Timothy 6:14,15
God...Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son... Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person... Hebrews 1:1-3
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever... Hebrews 1:8
...the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Titus 2:13
Simon Peter... through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: 2nd Peter 1:1 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Revelation 1:8
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. Revelation 19:16
NWT: In [the] beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was darkness upon the surface of [the] watery deep; and God's active force was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters.
NIV: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
NASB: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.
KJV: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
DISCUSSION: The Jehovah’s Witnesses reject the doctrine of the Trinity. They believe in a non-triune God named Jehovah, they believe Jesus is “a god” subordinate to Jehovah, and they reject the notion that the Holy Spirit is a person of the Trinity. They believe that the Holy Spirit is an extension of Jehovah – an “active force” He sends out. The Hebrew words here are ruwach elohim, which are accurately translated as “Spirit of God.”
Ruwach can be translated as “wind” also, but when joined in context with God, it is a reference to the Spirit of God (as Strong’s Hebrew Lexicon states, “Spirit of God, the third person of the triune God, the Holy Spirit, coequal, coeternal with the Father and the Son”). This is the first example of the NWT forcing its doctrinal bias into the text of Scripture.
NWT: And I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of favor and entreaties, and they will certainly look to the One whom they pierced through, and they will certainly wail over Him as in the wailing over an only [son]; and there will be a bitter lamentation over him as when there is bitter lamentation over the firstborn [son].
NIV: And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.
KJV: And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
DISCUSSION: This passage is one of the most phenomenal Messianic prophecies, because God (Yahweh/Jehovah) is speaking in the first person about Him being the one who will be pierced through. Obviously, Jesus fulfilled this prophecy, and the Jehovah’s Witnesses recognize this as well. The implications are clear.
Since this was God’s prophecy about what would happen to Him, and Jesus fulfilled this prophecy, then Jesus MUST be God. In fact, in the NWT Zechariah 12:1 indicates these are the “words of Jehovah.”[1] The NWT translators apparently missed the inclusion in this verse of the Hebrew ayth, which Strong’s indicates it is a contraction of a word that gives the meaning of “self.”
DISCUSSION: Throughout the New Testament we find people who worshiped Jesus. Since worship is an action that should be reserved for God, and the Jehovah’s Witnesses deny the deity of Jesus Christ, the NWT had to rectify these verses. The Greek word here is proskuneo. While this word can be translated as doing obeisance (which is defined as giving reverence or homage), the giveaway is the Watchtower’s inconsistency in translating this word.
In every instance in the New Testament were proskuneo is given to Jesus Christ, it is translated as doing “obeisance.” Where proskuneo is directed to the Father (“Jehovah” in the NWT), they rightly translate it as “worship” (as in John 4:20).
Here, every legitimate translation of the Bible reads the same – the Word (logos) was God (theos). The NWT stands alone in its contention that the Word was a god. This is to reinforce the JW doctrine that Jesus is not Jehovah, but is simply a subordinate god. The last Greek phrase in its entirety is theos en ho logos, where ho is a definite article (the). The Watchtower says that when theos is preceded by the definite article ho, it implies identity or personality.
Since the first use of theos in this verse is preceded by ho, it refers to God. The second use of theos is not preceded by ho, making it an indefinite description or quality. This is simply wrong thinking. It’s an important point to make that theos without the definite article ho is used elsewhere in the New Testament in reference to Jehovah God, and is translated appropriately in the NWT (such as in Luke 20:38).
There are deep doctrinal implications in the words of Jesus here. “I am” speaks to his eternality. It is also a name of God that He divulged to Moses. Exodus 3:14 says, God said to Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.' " The Greek in John 8:58 is ego eimi, where ego means “I” and eimi is a first person singular present indicative, to “exist”. The Septuagint provides ego eimi as the Greek words in Exodus 3:14.
The Hebrew word is hayah, which is derived from the same root as Yahweh. The NWT seeks to distance Jesus’ claims to eternality or deity. Thus, it stands alone in its gross mistranslation of this verse.
NWT: Pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the holy spirit has appointed YOU overseers, to shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own [Son].
KJV: Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
DISCUSSION: Some more grammatical games and bracket inclusions combine to once again pervert Holy Scripture in order to deny the deity of Jesus Christ. Going through my collection of legitimate Bible translations (and some not-so good translations), I find the NWT stands alone in their mistranslation of this verse. The verse speaks of God purchasing the church “with His own blood”.
This is obviously a reference to God the Son, Jesus Christ. What a powerful biblical testimony to the deity of Christ, and what an anathema to the neo-Arian doctrines of the Jehovah’s Witnesses! In order to overcome this, a little mistranslation is made to completely change the meaning and deceive their followers. Not a single extant Greek manuscript contains the word “son”.
DISCUSSION: This verse identifies our great God and our Savior Jesus Christ as being one and the same. While an argument can be made that the KJV separates the two much like the NWT (by placing the Greek pronoun hemon, meaning “our,” in an improper location), the wording of the NWT and the additional bracketed definite article go beyond a disputed positioning of the Greek, and presents an inferior and erroneous translation that once again separates Jesus Christ from His deity.
Legitimate scholars in the Biblical languages and manuscripts don’t think much of the NWT. Dr. Bruce Metzger is a well-known scholar whose works are seminary standards. He used the following adjectives when describing the NWT: “a frightful mistranslation,” “erroneous,” “pernicious,” and “reprehensible.”[3] British Bible scholar H.H. Rowley stated that the NWT is “a shining example of how the Bible should not be translated.”[4] He also referred to the NWT as “an insult to the Word of God.”
[5] While this list could go on, let me conclude with the words of Dr. William Barclay who stated, “It is abundantly clear that a sect which can translate the New Testament like that is intellectually dishonest.”[6]It is clear that many are unaware of the dangerous differences found in the New World Translation. We’ve received several emails from people who were confused by a verse shown to them by a Jehovah’s Witness.
You cant argue with the Word of God, you will lose! The real Bible is King Jame Version which is the Word of God, is not pointless if you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior for he is God in the flesh, you must be born again of the holy spirit not of RELIGION . You are close minded to the truth that JW is not what they claim to be, if anybody alerts the Bible in any way they are in danger of Judgment of God, and a Antichrist is spirit
Often the confusion results from the fact that the verse was like one of those in this article, and when we directed the person to a legitimate translation of that verse, their confusion lifted. When conversing with a Jehovah’s Witness, never let them read a verse from the NWT without verifying the wording in a legitimate translation. As Christians, our faith is supported by the God-breathed Scriptures.
NWT: because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist,
KJV: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
DISCUSSION: This is one of those passages that speak clearly toward the deity of Jesus Christ and His role as the Creator of all things.
It’s also one of those passages where the Watchtower Society is powerless to form an argument from the Greek, so they play the brackets game. In order to deny the deity of Jesus Christ and to buttress their argument that Jesus was simply the first of God’s creations, they insert the word “other”. The NWT reads that Jesus, as the first created being, created all “other” things.
@ArchangelSean30 brackets. so because of that. they are evil? Conspiracies are like rumors. They spread like viruses until someone accepts it as true. Theirs no cult okay. Believe me ive seen jehovas witnesses in their congregation for over 3 years and they don't force me to donate money like the catholics make mandatory.
@Thuggishdeer Yes they are a cult, when they denied Jesus Christ and Lord and Savior ( which scripture supports) you are denying the Father who sent him you a Cult, for Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God. So what they dont force you to give money that doesn't make them Christian, to be a Christian you must be born again of the spirit john 3:16 accept Jesus Christ as your Savior and King. Preach the Word of God, you make a cop out all you want for them they are still a Cult.
@Thuggishdeer You cant eve prove you stand for them with scripture, for they purposely change there prevision of the Bible NWT and make it say what they want it too say making Jesus Christ a man instead Immanuel God with us, that by definition is a Cult. Jehovah Witnesses are no better than Catholics, Mormons, Mason, Seventh Day Adventist, Calvinism they are cults perverting the Word of God, they serve a God Satan.
@Thuggishdeer You very ignorant of Satan abilities to corrupt the Word of God through religion, JW founder Charles t Russel was 33* degree mason, so was Mormon leader Joseph Smith which is part of the illuminate as a whole. JW have changed there NWT numerus times, that make errors on the Word of God, denying Jesus Christ as God, only God can redeem the World which Jesus Christ did 2000 yrs ont he cross on Calvary, Jesus Christ is"not" Michael the Archangel, Jesus Christ is his creator.
@Thuggishdeer You take what the Jehovah Witnesses say as Gospel instead search the Word of God , read scriptures in it's proper text and meaning which is in the KJV, you are drinking their koolaide, JW have destroyed peoples lives with there false prophecy, they degrade the word of God by changing the meaning when God said not too!
It appears through out the Old and New Testament in KJV, your NWT have taken it out I wonder why !?
2 Peter 2:4-5 says, "For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment."
Mark 9:46 describes hell as: "Their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched."
Matthew 8:12 says, "But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
Isaiah 66:24 reads: "And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind."
Daniel 12:2 describes the duration of hell: "Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt."
Hell in Hebrew is Sheol, which means the grave for the unbelief.
“For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down TO HELL, and delivered them into CHAINS of darkness, TO BE RESERVED unto judgment” (2nd Peter 2:4).
“And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy BOTH SOUL AND BODY in hell” (Matthew 10:28).
“And DEATH AND HELL were cast into the lake of fire.Revelation 20:14
It doesn't make sense that he would torture his children eternally.
That would make him a hypocrite.
In the new translation it says god does not put his children in hell, it talks about how the dead are unconscious in hades and those who are defiant deliberately against Jehovah, they will be wiped off the face of existence. In other words they wont be alive or dead.. they will be nothing.
NWT is corrupt bottomline, forget NWT for a sec. You are correct That God(Elohim), they Lord(YHWH) is God of love, forgiveness, Glory and Honor, but also he is a God of Righteous Judgment. If any man deines Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is CONDEMNED ALREADY, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." (John 3:18)
You have too remember God doesn't send nobody to Hell, WE send are selves. People in this world keep on rejecting Jesus Christ the will end up in Hell than the Lake of Fire. Hell and Lake of Fire is torment and punishment, you will be hunted for all Eternity all those times you have rejected Jesus Christ, you will relive every moment that somebody or some one talk to you about Jesus Christ and you walked away and cling onto religion instead faith in Jesus Christ the Only Begotten Son of
Father. No where in the original scrolls of the Bible and in KJV talk about God destroying the wicked at all, you will live forever, but where Heaven or Hell! Hell & Lake of Fire was meant for Satan and his fallen angels, but man rebels and keeps on reject Jesus Christ, that where Man will be. Away from those that put there trust in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. God is the only One that can redeem his people, hence Immanuel Jesus Christ is our kinsman redeemer, for God took on flesh.
I’ll take the Bible road any day! “Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the DAMNATION OF HELL?” (Matthew 23:33).
“But the fearful, and UNBELIEVING, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and ALL LIARS, shall have their part in THE LAKE WHICH BURNETH WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE: which is the SECOND DEATH” (Revelation 21:8).
"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is CONDEMNED ALREADY, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. "(John 3:18)
" HELL and DESTRUCTION are NEVER FULL; so the eyes of man are never satisfied." (Proverb 27:20)
. "In FLAMING FIRE taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:"(2 Thessalonians 1:8)
"The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to RESERVE the UNJUST unto the DAY OF JUDGMENT to be PUNISHED." (2 Peter 2:9) "Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved THE BLACKNESS OF DARKNESS FOREVER." (Jude 1:13)
"THE WICKED SHALL BE TURNED INTO HELL, and all the nations that forget God." (Psalm 9:17)
"Therefore HELL HATH ENLARGED HERSELF, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, SHALL DESCEND INTO IT." (Isaiah 5:14) "And he opened THE BOTTOMLESS PIT; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of A GREAT FURNACE; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit."(Rev 9:2)
Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. Deut 4:2
Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar. Proverbs 30:6
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. Rev 22:18
And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. Rev 22:19
See that you do all I command you; do not add to it or take away from it. Deut 12:32
JW, Mormons, Catholics, 7th day Adventist, Christian Science, Islam etc are all guilty, these group claim to be of God but the deny his only Begotten Son Jesus Christ.
@Thuggishdeer I share my faith, i tell people how Jesus Christ saved me from the pits of Hell, and I am new creation in Christ. I am not of ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ, for he is God in Flesh Isaiah 7:14, 9:6.
Since the Greek word for “other” is not found in the Greek manuscripts, they bracket the word to indicate that they’re inserting a word that does not belong. This additional word does not help the flow or clarity of the text, but is instead designed to attack the explicit biblical teaching of Christ’s deity and role as Creator. Greek scholar and theologian Robert Reymond referred to the addition of “other” as “sheer theological perversity…”[2]
As an example of the deceptive practices of the Watchtower Society, the 1950 version of the NWT did not bracket the word “other,” making it appear that it was part of the Greek Text. Only since 1961, when pressured to do so by Bible scholars, did they add the brackets.
NWT: Pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the holy spirit has appointed YOU overseers, to shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own [Son].
KJV: Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
DISCUSSION: Some more grammatical games and bracket inclusions combine to once again pervert Holy Scripture in order to deny the deity of Jesus Christ. Going through my collection of legitimate Bible translations (and some not-so good translations), I find the NWT stands alone in their mistranslation of this verse. The verse speaks of God purchasing the church “with His own blood”.
This is obviously a reference to God the Son, Jesus Christ. What a powerful biblical testimony to the deity of Christ, and what an anathema to the neo-Arian doctrines of the Jehovah’s Witnesses! In order to overcome this, a little mistranslation is made to completely change the meaning and deceive their followers. Not a single extant Greek manuscript contains the word “son”.
1. The Hebrew name for God is YHWH – four consonants only. Because of a nearly superstitious fear of taking the Lord’s name in vain, the Jews avoided using this name, and often used the name Adonai. Eventually, the vowels from Adonai were included in YHWH to form Yahowah. Today, this name is often spelled in English, Yahweh. As a human contrivance, Yahowah mutated to Jehovah in some manuscripts. Yahweh and Jehovah are considered synonymous, and mean “The LORD.”
2. Robert L. Reymond, Jesus, Divine Messiah: The New Testament Witness (Phillipsburg, NJ: Presbyterian and Reformed, 1990), p. 248.
3. Bruce Metzger; cited in Ron Rhodes, Reasoning from the Scriptures with the Jehovah’s Witnesses (Eugene, OR: Harvest House Publishers, 1993), p. 97.
4. H.H. Rowley, “How Not to Translate the Bible,” The Expository Times, No. 1953, pp.41-42.
r No other religion believes stronger in bible principles than Jehovas witnesses (christians). Its a nice way to live, by gods standards all found in the bible.
There is One God, in three person which makes up the Godhead: God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, these three are One. YOu just said gods so you are admitting that you are polytheists, since Watch Tower has alter john 1:1 by adding "a" in front of God(Theos)? YOur NWT is better that the Catholic Bible, pits of hell!
@Thuggishdeer Most people think going to church on Sunday and sinning the rest of the week is faith. Its not.
So you think it's righteous to go too people homes knock on there doors and preach a false gospel that denies my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as for who he is, God in the flesh Immanuel. Twist scripture around remove words deceive people to follow your brainwashing cult. And sending people to Hell in the process, your a puppet on the string and Satan is the puppet Master.
@ArchangelSean30 Faith is doing your best to follow gods principles and jesus' example. Jesus happened to be a pioneer preaching about his father going from place to place home to home trying to teach ignorant people about god.
You shouldn't judge people by what they do especially if u don't know much about it.
Its none of my business but whats your religion? Judging people? Well i dont know, but i just assumed it because i see u here judging a religion u know nothing about.
@ArchangelSean30 let me conclude by saying most people say jehovas witnesses are a great organization and have helped many people change their lives. Drug addicts, murderers, adulteress, alcoholics turned their life around by simply living by gods standards and principles.
Most people dont commit to being a witness in my opinion because its too HARD for them to leave their old way of living because they have to change so much its hard work.
The truth is that we are ordinary people who live ordinary live...however we know that following the commandments of God bring true happiness and protection. Jehovah's organizations is NOT A CULT, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ARE NOT APART OF A CULT!!! THE BASIS OF OUR BELIEFS IS THAT WE WORSHIP GOD AND NOT MAN- Acts 5:29 ;-)
ps..and as for the comments about Jehovah's Witnesses being illiterate..It truely shows who knows what the Bible teaches and how we, Jehovahs's Witnesses, can find comfort in knowing the apostle were men unlettered...Acts 4:13 "Now when they beheld the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were men unlettered and ordinary, they got to wondering. And they began to recognize about them that they used to be with Jesus."
Also what I so truely love about being a J.W. is that I have made the truth my own...I know the Bible and no one, I mean NO ONE can take that from me!!!!
If you are a witness and you have watched this video just as I have, I'm sure you are hurt!!! But I'm sure you have gained a friendship with the Father in Heaven and you know the truth. Sometimes as witnesses of the divine God we allow others to bring us to argue over the scriptures,,which is not wise...I do appreciate all the brothers and sisters who defended the truth. Its almost Jehovah's time to end all false religion any way!!! How much comfort we can find it knowing, we are living in the..
I had a Jehovah witness tell me my Husaband was wrong for being in the Military.(They don't believe in any Waring institution, or killing...even in self defense.) A. I explained that my Hubby hadnt killed anyone yet, but if he did it would be to protect his life, or his fellow soldiers. B. That the only reason she was standing on my doorstep was thanks to those who fought for her freedom of religion....So ya soldiers are good enough to give her freedom but not to be 'saved'....JW's..no thanks!
One I'm a Christian not Catholic big difference, two the word Trinity doesn't appear in the Bile correct and wrong, the word Elohim(El is God , him is plural) represents the triune God 1 John 5:7 KJV. Easter and other biblical tradition has been bastardized by the Roman Catholic Church fusing biblical tradition with pagan. Real Easter represents Jesus victory of Death!
The various doctrine books teach that Christ possessed all the glory, nature, and attributes of God during His earthly life just as much as when He was in the form of God. They give us proof for their conclusion that Christ had:
Jesus was before Abraham means Jesus was Jahs first creation & still subordinate a son is never above a father even by definition a son is just that simply a son in this cause the first son of God Duh
@77blitzwing I AM is YHWH in Hebrew, Jesus said before was "I AM" Abraham, Jesus is God/the creator Col1:15, Jesus and the Father are one, which means the Father, Son, Holy Spirit are equal and one in the same, they have different functions as "GOD"/Elohim, which points to the trinity. You don't know what you are talking about, you using English terms, instead of the Hebrew and Greek meaning in there proper context. You don't know scripture or the true meanings, you are "Spiritual blind".
@77blitzwing Like I said get a real bible KJV not that corrupt NWT, you really show that you don't know scripture even basic hermeneutics, John 8:58 "Before Abraham was I AM" is the Hebrew Word for YWHW , John 8:58( Exodus 3:14, Isaiah 43:13).
duh you don't know scripture, how can you understand the Bible for you are born again of the Spirit! You constantly misrepresenting words and context of scripture.
@77blitzwing You are making it complicated with your unbelief and not no understanding scripture in it's proper context. Son of God, in it's proper context is a declaration of equality with God,
If you ever read the book of John 10:30, then read up to verse 10:33 you see the Jews reaction; saying being a man, makest thyself God, and all they way too verse 42 many believed Jesus. Son of God is deity title.
Jesus said: "before Abraham was "I am" " (john8:58)!
Rev 3:14 "Christ Jesus is called the beginning of creation of God." the Greek word "arche" is literally refers to Him(Jesus) as the originator or cause of creation".
Who is the image (eikon) of the invisible God, the firstborn of creation. Col 1:15
eikon means in Greek direct image or prototype( the original form from which it is drawn), not merely a thing resembles (e.g., the reflection of the sun in the water is an eikon). Paul was telling the Colo here that Jesus Christ
@77blitzwing has a "prototype," God the Father who is invisible. The relationship between Christ and the Father God is not coincidental. John 1:18 and Phili 2:6-8
@77blitzwing No you cant cant, if you did you would have done it already. You make yourself look silly, you havent prove nothing only your ignorance of Biblical scripture in it's proper context, which you know nothing about. The Bible says Jesus is God, and you say no!
...unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder...and his name shall be called... The mighty God, The everlasting Father... Isaiah 9:6
Jesus is Messiah.
The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he. John 4:25-26
@77blitzwing You just acknowledge Jesus as God and don't even know it, Jesus is the Savior which makes him God; for God is the only Savior Isaiah 43:11! ..the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 1 John 4:14
...our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. II Peter 3:18
...God and our Saviour Jesus Christ. II Peter 1:1
...the Christ, the Saviour of the world. John 4:42
Would Jesus had refer to me as hoe? I don't think so u just made yourself look ridiculous trying to teach me by then insulting? Good luck trying to make disciples God is not w u that's why all the churches r being abondonef people see thru hypocrisy
Funny how u people start with the insults as soon as u stomp on your own beliefs & how in reality can't apply scripture to daily life & u claim u know scripture yet u don't apply it
& your wrong again Messiah equals anointed meaning chosen by God it doesn't mean God in the flesh Bible clearly states God is a Spirit & his Holy spirit is not a person it's his force a person can not be full of another person but he can be full of Holy spirit
Genesis 1:2; 1 Cor 2:11; Job 33:4 "Spirit of God" The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Triune GOD.
What you say without Scripture is fleshly, for the spirit of God testified of God. The Spirit is not a force, for he is God, he connects us with the Father and Son. Like I said unless you now the Hebrew meanings of God title you will never now God (Elohim). You no Biblical bases only fleshly theories, which is of Satan. Since you are not Born again you are lost and condemned John 3:18!
@77blitzwing You hate God so much that you denied his Only Begotten Son Jesus, you have no Biblical bases to support your Satan stance, you are following a Cult that is Antichrist 1John 2:22, and you wonder why you can't grasp the Word of God (Elohim).
3 in 1 is nice science fiction used first by pagans Babylonians etc.. & u can't grasp the simple idea of God sacrificing his Son it doesn't say God sacrificed himself it's Simple!!!!
@77blitzwing The Word (Elohim) God points to the Trinity hoe can you say something you dont even know Hebrew words that are pertained in the Bible especially the Titles of God, God did sacrifice himself it shows you don't know Biblical scripture at all.
Simply put The Vicepresident is not the Same as the President they have the same agenda but not the same person I can't believe something so simple is difficult for u to grasp
@77blitzwing You cant grasp the Word of God, for you are not spiritual discern! It's sad to me and too real Bible believing Christians that read when you read Word of God, that you can't see that Jesus and the Father, Holy Spirit are One, and Jesus is the Image of God in flesh! But like I said you are not spiritual discern.
I have should you scriptures, and what it means in context, your only reason is theory,opinions that is not Biblical base, base on fleshly base.
Someone that is sent is not in control is receiving & carrying out orders HeLLOoo! Does that make sense to u? can u grasp this simple concept? Or are u confused
@77blitzwing Concept that Watch Tower is Satan playground, yes I understand but you don't! You cant grasp that God came in the flesh which was prophecies in the Old testament especially in Isaiah which talks about the Messiah which is God in flesh,Lord (Jesus)first and second coming, resurrection, crucifixion, rapture of the church! Once you stop being so religious, you will see that Jesus Christ is God and Lord, if you don't this whats is going to happen to you Phillip 2:10-11!
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52flipflop 1 month ago
He believed that:
Christs presence = 1874
Christs inauguration (Kingdom in heaven) = 1878
Harmageddon (Kingdom on earth)= 1914
What the video tells us is, that Russell and the biblestudents said that Christs inauguration as king were to be in 1914. That is not true. He believed that Christ had started to rule (in heaven) in 1878, and that Hamageddon (kingdom on earth) would come in 1914
The JW's current teaching is, that Christ began to rule in heaven in 1914, and Harmageddon will come later.
Billos76 3 months ago
charles russel tells in the bible examiner from 1876 that he believed in 1914.. you can google it by : 1876 bible examiner archive
priisilla 3 months ago
Inauguration=1878
The video tells us, that Russell and the biblestudents said, that Christ would begin ruling in 1914.
Russells own writings tells us, that Russel and the biblestudents actually said, that Christ's presence would start in 1874 and that Christ would begin ruling in 1878.
The video therefore do not offer the truth, when explaining what Russell and the biblestudents actually said back then, about the year for the beginning of Christs rule. Why do you think, they hid the trutth?
Billos76 3 months ago
Studies done by Swiss psychiatrist Janner, Swedish psychiatrist Dr. Rylander and an American study by Precore all concluded that the rate of mental illness among Jehovah’s Witnesses is 32-40 times higher than the rest of the population..the religion is a sick,damaging cult, google the facts ( risking disfellowship if you do) ... or live a life of lies and mental slavery, good luck
mostghost99 3 months ago 4
In everyone of these videos people have always trashed Jws beliefs but not one has had a reasoning argeement based on scriptual facts all comments are based on pure emmotion not allowing an open agreement to emerge not on the dis thus failing to the higher power its as if people by what authority do they do?un knowingly have judge without cause,this world is in fact lost from the true God and seems that all hope in man is lost,thus making God are only savior
ansermam 4 months ago in playlist jehovah's witnesses
When a organization announces " Stay alive until 75 " you know they are trying to create a state of fear and anxiety, even if it was falsely constructed. The bottom line is the WTS is and always will be a religious publishing house with an agenda to attract attention to its published literature and to the very organization itself . Power and money in men's hands usually creates a surmountable level of corruption.
coolsmith241 4 months ago
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ijehovahswitness 5 months ago
@ijehovahswitness No you are a Satanic cult and you are the ones that lie.
jojoneli76 2 days ago
judge yourself assholes!
babycaramel78 5 months ago
Charles said that Christs rule on Heaven began on 1914 not that it was the end.
4:09 "The Cross is a pegan symbol to be avoided"
Read the 4th original Comandment wiki it or w.e
They dont believe that drinking is a liquor of satan but if you drink too much as not to have control over your body or self it can be harmful spiritually and physically
Bdays are not celebrated cuz the head of John the baptist was cut off by king Herod as a present to his wife on her b day
Sorry study some more.
IceyAmos 5 months ago
@IceyAmos
Russel first believed Barbour's (adventists) prophecy, that Christ had appeared invisible in 1799 sparking the last days.
Then he believed Christ had appeared invisible in 1974 and preached Harmageddon would come in 1914.
Rutherford later changed doctrine, now saying that Chists invisible appearance was actually in 1914 and that Harmagedon would come later (1925).
Today, the JW's are claiming that Russel from the start told 1914 was the start of Christs rule. It is a bold lie though.
Billos76 5 months ago
@billos76
thats funny because i remember seeing a video about and from jw' s and the dvd showed everything you just summed up and that video is free and was publised in 2010 , the whole dvd is about the beginning of the jw's and russel.. so next time get your facts straight :)
priisilla 3 months ago
@priisilla
I am quite sure, that my facts are straight. It simply a question of checking the old magazines from the period. The Russellites have uploaded all Russells talks and writings, so visit their site and examine yourself what Russell said back then. I would encourage you to do so....and compare it to the video's info (which I have not seen).
With that said, I have learned through experience and examination, NOT to trust the Society's present version of their history.
Billos76 3 months ago
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@Billos76 PROOF: Jesus taught us to follow his example, study his every teaching=Matthew 28:20, John 17:3. TRUE DISCIPLES follow his example, teaching others and making disiples=Matthew 4:17, 5:5, 6:9,10, chapter 10, 24:14, 28:19,20. Jehovah's Witnesses are the only ones teaching God's name, making it known, and preaching GOD'S KINGDOM is coming! Acts 1;8, 5:42, 8:4, 13:21,49, 14:3,15,21, 20:20-25, Romans 10:10-17, John 3:16, 17:3. 1 Corinthians 2:10,16, 4:6 use the bible :D LIKE JW'S DO!!
eternityandforever 2 months ago
i found the dvd in 7 parts on you tube, i will send you the link in a message.
it really doesn't really matter what they thought wrong in the beginning, fact remains that jw' s are the only ones who really live up to the worldwide preaching.
mattheus 24:14 (king james version)
And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
priisilla 3 months ago
@priisilla
Sry for the delay. I have much around my ears these days and had to find the time to scan this through,
Ok, I found the part dealing with the issue we speak of. First the video's message to be found here:
(youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=j06ccYP6MRk#t=568s)
(from 9:28 to 10:00)
"They reasoned (...) then Christ will begin ruling in 1914"
This is the only date concerning the beginning of Christ rule mentioned in the video.
Next, we will check Russels writings.
Billos76 3 months ago
@priisilla
dawnbible (.com) have all volumes of Russels "Studies in the Scriptures" online
Studies in the Scriptures, Vol. IV, (1897), p. 621
"But now we are in the end of this Gospel age, and the Kingdom is being established or set up. Our Lord, the appointed King, is now present, since October 1874, A.D., according to the testimony of the prophets, to those who have ears to hear it: and the formal inauguration of his kingly office dates from April 1878, A.D."
Presence=1874
Inauguration=1874
Billos76 3 months ago
@priisilla but they are not preaching the right message. The apostles preached about Jesus and his sacrifice. This is the GOSPEL that JWs are not preaching. They preach the possible reward, Paradise Earth, more than what's really important.
jojoneli76 3 days ago
@jojoneli76 the thing we preach is matth 24:14. and there are many ways to start a conversation with someone, the easiest way is to tell that this earth isn't permanent, but a paradise will come.. in the hope people want to hear more about it.. we do preach about jesus and his sacrifice, so don't be ignorant please.
priisilla 3 days ago
And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand .My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. and my Father are one. John10:28-30
One n Greek is hies(hice) it means that they are co-equal: in authority, majesty, power,. glory, worship, creation, honor, judgment.
ArchangelSean30 6 months ago
@ArchangelSean30
"Oh Penne which art in Stripper Factory and Beer Volcano Heaven, meaty be thy balls. Thy midgit come, thy sauce be yum. Thy will be done in marinara as it is in alfredo. Give us this day our daily garlic bread. And forgive us pirates our trespasses, as we forgive them pirates that trespass against us. And lead us into temptation, and deliver us some pizza. RAmen."
griefingtons 6 months ago
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ArchangelSean30 5 months ago
I have to say that you were study with some retard demons because all your video is complete crap and you dont know nothing about Jehovas Witnesses.
Btw im not Jehova Witness but you are a liar.
aldearey 6 months ago
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@aldearey If you are not JW then why defend them? JW are cult they have denied Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, where the Bible says Jesus Christ is God of the Old and New Testament. For Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God 2Corth 4:4 and creator Colo 1:15-18 and is equal with God foe he and God are "One".
ArchangelSean30 6 months ago
People cannot handle the truth about God's revelation simply because they don't want the truth, all their despair is for freedom, like what Satan shown in the garden of Eden. U miss some of history, after 1st century there was a age called "Dark aged" and you known what It means? I think you don't because you're acting like a PRO without any references. If you were in the dark and seeing for light instantly, you might been blind, ask your doctor why? You need more research...
darkeramain 6 months ago
my word this is so unfactual it's laughable
outdoorpooltable 6 months ago
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GOD SAYS HE HAS A SON.Jesus said he's God's Son-Matthew 3:17,Mark 9:7,Psalms 2:7,Luke 9:35,Prov.8:22.DEMONS,expelled said he's Son of God-Luke 4:41.Matt.8:29, Mark3:11.Others said he's Son-John1:14,49,3:17,5:18,36,6:46,10:36,Mark15:39,Matthew 26:63,27:40. Hebrews10:29,4:14.An angel said he's Son-Luke1:35.Jehovah God is Jesus' God-John15:1,16:3,30,20:17, Matt.26:26,36-44,64,Mark15:34,Ephesians1:17.Son=Mediator-1Timothy 2:5,Heb.1:3,4,8:6,9:15,12:24, Romans1:4,8,9,Acts7:55,56.
eternityandforever 6 months ago
Stop knocking on my door
GammaHickoryOtter 6 months ago
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, PREPARED FOR THE DEVIL AND HIS ANGELS (Matthew 25:41).God never intended for one single person to end up in Hell. It is NOT God’s will that anyone should perish in their sins and go to Hell... “The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, NOT WILLING THAT ANY SHOULD PERISH, but that ALL should come to REPENTANCE” (2nd Peter 3:9).
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
It is NOT God’s fault if men and women are stubborn and unwilling to REPENT of their unbelief. Hell was NOT created for human beings but rather for Satan and his horde of demons. We are ALL without excuse for the wrong decisions we make in life—we CANNOT blame God. Perhaps other humans influenced us to make some wrong decisions but that’s not God’s fault.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
I often tell people, “Don’t give up on God because men fail you.” Let Job be our example, “Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him” (Job 13:15). What a statement!
Im out, for now!
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@ArchangelSean30 Nice, Everything I was going to say you already said. JW have prophesized the end like 22 times and that makes them a false prophet. Their an easy religion to debunk imo. Its easy to make them denie their own doctrine or except Christ. But they still through pride refuse to see the obvious. I feel so sorry for them because if they don't change i know their fate. Nice to see posts such as your my friend.
worrior777 6 months ago
its pointless to argue with closed minds. ^^^
Thuggishdeer 7 months ago
Jehovah Witnesses are cult, they denied Jesus Christ as God and Savior, bottom line NWT is from the pits of Hell. When changed the Bible you are a cult, when denied Jesus Christ deity you are cult, When you claim Jesus Christ and Michael are the same person your are cult, you denied the Holy Spirit as God your a cult! JW work in the spirit of the Anti Christ 1 john 2:22.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@ArchangelSean30 Go get the facts from the witnesses themselves and if ur still convinced they are bad people pretending to be good then get on with your life.
No other religion believes stronger in bible principles than Jehovas witnesses (christians). Its a nice way to live, by gods standards all found in the bible. Most people think going to church on sunday and sinning the rest of the week is faith. Its not.
And people ask why bad things happen to them, its their own fault. Mostly.
Thuggishdeer 7 months ago
Jehovah Witnesses are not Christians by the Bible words, they are Anti-christ in spirit 1 john 2:22, they have altered KJV with Westcott and Hort text corrupting the Word of God. You go by religion, I go by faith, religion God hates and religion will sends you to Hell, it's faith in Jesus Christ alone.
When you denied Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior ,you are a cult, When you denied Jesus Christ is not God in flesh you are Cult, When you say Michael and Jesus Christ are the same you are a cult
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@ArchangelSean30 Its called lies. People lie about religions and make up stories to give them a bad name, some are true some are not.
They make up stories like they make up stories about celebrities.
The sad part about all this is that we believe lies more than the truth.
You have faith fine. But that gives u no right to judge only god has that. If you believe in god you should know that.
Thuggishdeer 7 months ago
@ArchangelSean30 If you knew the truth about god and everything that benefits you by worshiping him. Wouldn't you want to tell people about it instead of keeping it to yourself?
What good is it to have faith if you don't share it?
What good is it to know the Truth and just telling everyone else they are wrong (satanist) (pagans)? Similar to what your doing isn't it?
Jehovas witnesses spread the word because they talk the talk and walk the walk about what they believe.
Ur just talking the talk.
Thuggishdeer 7 months ago
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ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@Thuggishdeer You talk the talk, walk the walk of Antichrist 1 john 2:22, you no scholars that support the NWT if anything they condemn it, it's follows the same as NIV, NASB, ASB, etc which are traced back too Westcott and Hort translations, these two Jesuits. Your NWT translations is from the pits of hell, it falls into comparison the KJV where it's a Word by Word translation.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@ArchangelSean30 your right. people do twist bible truths. they do make up lies. They distort it ALOT. I agree.
Think about this.
When it all began... we started out with 1 religion. ONE.
Now we have thousands... what happened?
Jehovas witnesses aka christians are the only ones learning from the bible and living by it.
Their are no Popes, no nuns, no symbols, no images, just an organization started by God and ruled by Jesus as king.
Jesus is the king, NOT God. Because jesus worshiped him.
Thuggishdeer 7 months ago
Jesus Christ is God and King and that's Biblical. Your NWT is conterfit it perverts the Word of God and from the pits of Hell.
Jesus Christ is God of the Old and New Testament.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Jesus Christ is God!!
Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us. Matthew 1:23
And there came a fear on all: and they glorified God, saying, That a great prophet is risen up among us; and, That God hath visited his people. Luke 7:16
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. John 1:1
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
No man hath seen God at any time; the only begotten Son, which is in the bosom of the Father, he hath declared him. John 1:18
Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God. John 5:18
I and my Father are one. John 10:30
The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God. John 10:33
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Ye call me Master and Lord: and ye say well; for so I am. John 13:13
Jesus said to him, "...He who has seen Me has seen the Father; how do you say, `Show us the Father?'" John 14:9
And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was. John 17:5
And Thomas answered and said unto him [Jesus], My Lord and my God. John 20:28
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
..lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 2 Corinthians 4:4
...Christ Jesus: Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: Philippians 2:5,6
...after Christ. For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Colossians 2:9
God was manifest in the flesh... 1 Timothy 3:16
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
...our Lord Jesus Christ: Which in his times he shall shew, who is the blessed and only Potentate, the King of kings, and Lord of lords; 1st Timothy 6:14,15
God...Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son... Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person... Hebrews 1:1-3
But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever... Hebrews 1:8
...the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ; Titus 2:13
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
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Simon Peter... through the righteousness of God and our Saviour Jesus Christ: 2nd Peter 1:1 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Revelation 1:8
And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS. Revelation 19:16
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Characteristic God OT Jesus Christ NT
Who is omnipotent (all powerful)? 1 Chronicles 29:11 Philippians 3:20-21
Who is omniscient (all knowing)? 1 John 3:20 Colossians 2:2-3
Who is omnipresent (present everywhere)? Proverbs 15:3 2 Corinthians 2:14
Who is Lord of Sabbath? Genesis 2:3 Matthew 12:8
Who is the great "I am?" Exodus 3:14 John 8:58
Who is the only creator? Isaiah 44:24 John 1:3
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Who is the only savior? Isaiah 43:11, 45:21 Acts 4:12
Who will judge mankind? Isaiah 3:13, 14 2 Corinthians 5:10
Who will judge between the sheep and goats? Ezekiel 34:17 Matthew 25:31-33
Who sent the prophets? Jeremiah 7:25 Matthew 23:34
Who resurrected Jesus? Acts 4:10 John 10:17-18
Who is "coming in glory?" Isaiah 40:5 Matthew 24:30
Who is our Father? Isaiah 63:16 Isaiah 9:6
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Who is the "first and last?" Isaiah 44:6 Revelation 1:17
Who is Rock of salvation? 2 Samuel 22:32 1 Corinthians 10:4
Who is Stone of stumbling? Isaiah 8:13-15 1 Peter 2:8
"One crying in the wilderness" came to prepare a way for whom? Isaiah 40:3 Matthew 3:3
Who is eternal? Genesis 21:33 Micah 5:2
Who is the fountain of living waters? Jeremiah 17:13 John 4:10-14
Who resurrects the dead? Acts 26:8 John 6:40
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Who gives rewards to man? Isaiah 40:10 Matthew 16:27
Who has all authority and power? 1 Chronicles 29:11 Matthew 28:18
Who gives power and authority to man? Psalms 68:35 Luke 9:1
Who forgives sin? 2 Chronicles 7:14 Matthew 9:6
Who sent the Holy Spirit? John 14:16 John 16:7
Who has the greatest name? Nehemiah 9:5 Philippians 2:9
Whom are we to worship? Exodus 34:14 Revelation 5:12-13
Who is the good Shepherd? Genesis 48:15 John 10:14
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Who searches for the lost sheep of Israel? Ezekiel 34:11 Matthew 15:24
Who is "Lord of Lords?" Deuteronomy 10:17 Revelation 17:14
To whom shall every knee bow? Isaiah 45:22-23 Philippians 2:10
Who is the righteous branch of David? Jeremiah 23:5-6 Jeremiah 33:15
Who alone is Holy? 1 Samuel 2:2 Acts 3:14
Whose blood cleanses us? Acts 20:28 1 John 1:7
The world was created for whom? Proverbs 16:4 Colossians 1:16
Who is above all? Nehemiah 9:6 Romans 9:5
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Who is forever the same? Psalms 102:24-27 Hebrews 1:8-12
Who is our light? Psalms 27:1 John 8:12
Who is the way or path? Psalms 16:11 John 14:6
Who is in charge of the angels? Psalms 103:20 2 Thessalonians 1:7
Who gives us rest? Exodus 33:14 Matthew 11:28
Who gives eternal life? Proverbs 19:23 John 3:36
We are the bride of whom? Isaiah 54:5 2 Corinthians 11:2
Who tests the heart and mind? Jeremiah 17:10 Revelation 2:23
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Genesis 1:1-2
NWT: In [the] beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth proved to be formless and waste and there was darkness upon the surface of [the] watery deep; and God's active force was moving to and fro over the surface of the waters.
NIV: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.
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NASB: In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. The earth was formless and void, and darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was moving over the surface of the waters.
KJV: In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness [was] upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
DISCUSSION: The Jehovah’s Witnesses reject the doctrine of the Trinity. They believe in a non-triune God named Jehovah, they believe Jesus is “a god” subordinate to Jehovah, and they reject the notion that the Holy Spirit is a person of the Trinity. They believe that the Holy Spirit is an extension of Jehovah – an “active force” He sends out. The Hebrew words here are ruwach elohim, which are accurately translated as “Spirit of God.”
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Ruwach can be translated as “wind” also, but when joined in context with God, it is a reference to the Spirit of God (as Strong’s Hebrew Lexicon states, “Spirit of God, the third person of the triune God, the Holy Spirit, coequal, coeternal with the Father and the Son”). This is the first example of the NWT forcing its doctrinal bias into the text of Scripture.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Zechariah 12:10
NWT: And I will pour out upon the house of David and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem the spirit of favor and entreaties, and they will certainly look to the One whom they pierced through, and they will certainly wail over Him as in the wailing over an only [son]; and there will be a bitter lamentation over him as when there is bitter lamentation over the firstborn [son].
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NIV: And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit of grace and supplication. They will look on me, the one they have pierced, and they will mourn for him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.
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KJV: And I will pour upon the house of David, and upon the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the spirit of grace and of supplications: and they shall look upon me whom they have pierced, and they shall mourn for him, as one mourneth for his only son, and shall be in bitterness for him, as one that is in bitterness for his firstborn.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
DISCUSSION: This passage is one of the most phenomenal Messianic prophecies, because God (Yahweh/Jehovah) is speaking in the first person about Him being the one who will be pierced through. Obviously, Jesus fulfilled this prophecy, and the Jehovah’s Witnesses recognize this as well. The implications are clear.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Since this was God’s prophecy about what would happen to Him, and Jesus fulfilled this prophecy, then Jesus MUST be God. In fact, in the NWT Zechariah 12:1 indicates these are the “words of Jehovah.”[1] The NWT translators apparently missed the inclusion in this verse of the Hebrew ayth, which Strong’s indicates it is a contraction of a word that gives the meaning of “self.”
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Mathew 14:33 (among others)
NWT: Then those in the boat did obeisance to him, saying: “You are really God’s Son.”
NIV: Then those who were in the boat worshiped him, saying, "Truly you are the Son of God."
NASB: And those who were in the boat worshiped Him, saying, "You are certainly God's Son!"
KJV: Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
DISCUSSION: Throughout the New Testament we find people who worshiped Jesus. Since worship is an action that should be reserved for God, and the Jehovah’s Witnesses deny the deity of Jesus Christ, the NWT had to rectify these verses. The Greek word here is proskuneo. While this word can be translated as doing obeisance (which is defined as giving reverence or homage), the giveaway is the Watchtower’s inconsistency in translating this word.
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In every instance in the New Testament were proskuneo is given to Jesus Christ, it is translated as doing “obeisance.” Where proskuneo is directed to the Father (“Jehovah” in the NWT), they rightly translate it as “worship” (as in John 4:20).
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John 1:1
NWT: In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God, and the Word was a god.
NIV: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
NASB: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
KJV: In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Here, every legitimate translation of the Bible reads the same – the Word (logos) was God (theos). The NWT stands alone in its contention that the Word was a god. This is to reinforce the JW doctrine that Jesus is not Jehovah, but is simply a subordinate god. The last Greek phrase in its entirety is theos en ho logos, where ho is a definite article (the). The Watchtower says that when theos is preceded by the definite article ho, it implies identity or personality.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Since the first use of theos in this verse is preceded by ho, it refers to God. The second use of theos is not preceded by ho, making it an indefinite description or quality. This is simply wrong thinking. It’s an important point to make that theos without the definite article ho is used elsewhere in the New Testament in reference to Jehovah God, and is translated appropriately in the NWT (such as in Luke 20:38).
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They are inconsistent with this argument, positing the “indefinite quality” assertion only in reference to Jesus.
John 8:58
NWT: Jesus said to them: “Most truly I say to YOU, Before Abraham came into existence, I have been.”
NIV: “I tell you the truth,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”
NASB: Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am."
KJV: Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
There are deep doctrinal implications in the words of Jesus here. “I am” speaks to his eternality. It is also a name of God that He divulged to Moses. Exodus 3:14 says, God said to Moses, “I am who I am. This is what you are to say to the Israelites: 'I AM has sent me to you.' " The Greek in John 8:58 is ego eimi, where ego means “I” and eimi is a first person singular present indicative, to “exist”. The Septuagint provides ego eimi as the Greek words in Exodus 3:14.
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The Hebrew word is hayah, which is derived from the same root as Yahweh. The NWT seeks to distance Jesus’ claims to eternality or deity. Thus, it stands alone in its gross mistranslation of this verse.
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Acts 20:28
NWT: Pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the holy spirit has appointed YOU overseers, to shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own [Son].
KJV: Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
DISCUSSION: Some more grammatical games and bracket inclusions combine to once again pervert Holy Scripture in order to deny the deity of Jesus Christ. Going through my collection of legitimate Bible translations (and some not-so good translations), I find the NWT stands alone in their mistranslation of this verse. The verse speaks of God purchasing the church “with His own blood”.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
This is obviously a reference to God the Son, Jesus Christ. What a powerful biblical testimony to the deity of Christ, and what an anathema to the neo-Arian doctrines of the Jehovah’s Witnesses! In order to overcome this, a little mistranslation is made to completely change the meaning and deceive their followers. Not a single extant Greek manuscript contains the word “son”.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Titus 2:13
NWT: while we wait for the happy hope and glorious manifestation of the great God and of [the] Savior of us, Christ Jesus
NIV: while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ
NASB: looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus
KJV: Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
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DISCUSSION: This verse identifies our great God and our Savior Jesus Christ as being one and the same. While an argument can be made that the KJV separates the two much like the NWT (by placing the Greek pronoun hemon, meaning “our,” in an improper location), the wording of the NWT and the additional bracketed definite article go beyond a disputed positioning of the Greek, and presents an inferior and erroneous translation that once again separates Jesus Christ from His deity.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Legitimate scholars in the Biblical languages and manuscripts don’t think much of the NWT. Dr. Bruce Metzger is a well-known scholar whose works are seminary standards. He used the following adjectives when describing the NWT: “a frightful mistranslation,” “erroneous,” “pernicious,” and “reprehensible.”[3] British Bible scholar H.H. Rowley stated that the NWT is “a shining example of how the Bible should not be translated.”[4] He also referred to the NWT as “an insult to the Word of God.”
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
[5] While this list could go on, let me conclude with the words of Dr. William Barclay who stated, “It is abundantly clear that a sect which can translate the New Testament like that is intellectually dishonest.”[6]It is clear that many are unaware of the dangerous differences found in the New World Translation. We’ve received several emails from people who were confused by a verse shown to them by a Jehovah’s Witness.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@ArchangelSean30 lets end this conversation once and for all by simply stating that It is Pointless to argue with closed minds.
Guess where that comes from... Yup the bible.
Good luck with your life, but please for your sake.. keep an open mind you have much to learn and you can't learn it if your not willing to listen.
ßye.
Thuggishdeer 7 months ago
You cant argue with the Word of God, you will lose! The real Bible is King Jame Version which is the Word of God, is not pointless if you accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior for he is God in the flesh, you must be born again of the holy spirit not of RELIGION . You are close minded to the truth that JW is not what they claim to be, if anybody alerts the Bible in any way they are in danger of Judgment of God, and a Antichrist is spirit
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Often the confusion results from the fact that the verse was like one of those in this article, and when we directed the person to a legitimate translation of that verse, their confusion lifted. When conversing with a Jehovah’s Witness, never let them read a verse from the NWT without verifying the wording in a legitimate translation. As Christians, our faith is supported by the God-breathed Scriptures.
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Colossians 1:16,17
NWT: because by means of him all [other] things were created in the heavens and upon the earth, the things visible and the things invisible, no matter whether they are thrones or lordships or governments or authorities. All [other] things have been created through him and for him. Also, he is before all [other] things and by means of him all [other] things were made to exist,
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KJV: For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether [they be] thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him: And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.
DISCUSSION: This is one of those passages that speak clearly toward the deity of Jesus Christ and His role as the Creator of all things.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
It’s also one of those passages where the Watchtower Society is powerless to form an argument from the Greek, so they play the brackets game. In order to deny the deity of Jesus Christ and to buttress their argument that Jesus was simply the first of God’s creations, they insert the word “other”. The NWT reads that Jesus, as the first created being, created all “other” things.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@ArchangelSean30 brackets. so because of that. they are evil? Conspiracies are like rumors. They spread like viruses until someone accepts it as true. Theirs no cult okay. Believe me ive seen jehovas witnesses in their congregation for over 3 years and they don't force me to donate money like the catholics make mandatory.
They are not doing anything wrong.
Thuggishdeer 7 months ago
@Thuggishdeer Yes they are a cult, when they denied Jesus Christ and Lord and Savior ( which scripture supports) you are denying the Father who sent him you a Cult, for Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God. So what they dont force you to give money that doesn't make them Christian, to be a Christian you must be born again of the spirit john 3:16 accept Jesus Christ as your Savior and King. Preach the Word of God, you make a cop out all you want for them they are still a Cult.
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@Thuggishdeer You cant eve prove you stand for them with scripture, for they purposely change there prevision of the Bible NWT and make it say what they want it too say making Jesus Christ a man instead Immanuel God with us, that by definition is a Cult. Jehovah Witnesses are no better than Catholics, Mormons, Mason, Seventh Day Adventist, Calvinism they are cults perverting the Word of God, they serve a God Satan.
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@Thuggishdeer You very ignorant of Satan abilities to corrupt the Word of God through religion, JW founder Charles t Russel was 33* degree mason, so was Mormon leader Joseph Smith which is part of the illuminate as a whole. JW have changed there NWT numerus times, that make errors on the Word of God, denying Jesus Christ as God, only God can redeem the World which Jesus Christ did 2000 yrs ont he cross on Calvary, Jesus Christ is"not" Michael the Archangel, Jesus Christ is his creator.
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@Thuggishdeer You take what the Jehovah Witnesses say as Gospel instead search the Word of God , read scriptures in it's proper text and meaning which is in the KJV, you are drinking their koolaide, JW have destroyed peoples lives with there false prophecy, they degrade the word of God by changing the meaning when God said not too!
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@ArchangelSean30 What is this "Hell" You speak of? Where is that word found in the scriptures?
Thuggishdeer 7 months ago
It appears through out the Old and New Testament in KJV, your NWT have taken it out I wonder why !?
2 Peter 2:4-5 says, "For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell, putting them into gloomy dungeons to be held for judgment."
Mark 9:46 describes hell as: "Their worm does not die and the fire is not quenched."
Matthew 8:12 says, "But the subjects of the kingdom will be thrown outside, into the darkness, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth."
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Isaiah 66:24 reads: "And they will go out and look upon the dead bodies of those who rebelled against me; their worm will not die, nor will their fire be quenched, and they will be loathsome to all mankind."
Daniel 12:2 describes the duration of hell: "Multitudes who sleep in the dust of the earth will awake: some to everlasting life, others to shame and everlasting contempt."
Hell in Hebrew is Sheol, which means the grave for the unbelief.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
“For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down TO HELL, and delivered them into CHAINS of darkness, TO BE RESERVED unto judgment” (2nd Peter 2:4).
“And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy BOTH SOUL AND BODY in hell” (Matthew 10:28).
“And DEATH AND HELL were cast into the lake of fire.Revelation 20:14
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@ArchangelSean30 Isn't Yahweh/Jehovah The god of Love?
It doesn't make sense that he would torture his children eternally.
That would make him a hypocrite.
In the new translation it says god does not put his children in hell, it talks about how the dead are unconscious in hades and those who are defiant deliberately against Jehovah, they will be wiped off the face of existence. In other words they wont be alive or dead.. they will be nothing.
Doesn't that make more sense?
Thuggishdeer 7 months ago
NWT is corrupt bottomline, forget NWT for a sec. You are correct That God(Elohim), they Lord(YHWH) is God of love, forgiveness, Glory and Honor, but also he is a God of Righteous Judgment. If any man deines Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior "He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is CONDEMNED ALREADY, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God." (John 3:18)
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
You have too remember God doesn't send nobody to Hell, WE send are selves. People in this world keep on rejecting Jesus Christ the will end up in Hell than the Lake of Fire. Hell and Lake of Fire is torment and punishment, you will be hunted for all Eternity all those times you have rejected Jesus Christ, you will relive every moment that somebody or some one talk to you about Jesus Christ and you walked away and cling onto religion instead faith in Jesus Christ the Only Begotten Son of
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Father. No where in the original scrolls of the Bible and in KJV talk about God destroying the wicked at all, you will live forever, but where Heaven or Hell! Hell & Lake of Fire was meant for Satan and his fallen angels, but man rebels and keeps on reject Jesus Christ, that where Man will be. Away from those that put there trust in Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. God is the only One that can redeem his people, hence Immanuel Jesus Christ is our kinsman redeemer, for God took on flesh.
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I’ll take the Bible road any day! “Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the DAMNATION OF HELL?” (Matthew 23:33).
“But the fearful, and UNBELIEVING, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and ALL LIARS, shall have their part in THE LAKE WHICH BURNETH WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE: which is the SECOND DEATH” (Revelation 21:8).
"...he that believeth not shall be DAMNED"
(Mark 16:16)
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"He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is CONDEMNED ALREADY, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. "(John 3:18)
" HELL and DESTRUCTION are NEVER FULL; so the eyes of man are never satisfied." (Proverb 27:20)
. "In FLAMING FIRE taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:"(2 Thessalonians 1:8)
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"The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to RESERVE the UNJUST unto the DAY OF JUDGMENT to be PUNISHED." (2 Peter 2:9) "Raging waves of the sea, foaming out their own shame; wandering stars, to whom is reserved THE BLACKNESS OF DARKNESS FOREVER." (Jude 1:13)
"THE WICKED SHALL BE TURNED INTO HELL, and all the nations that forget God." (Psalm 9:17)
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"Therefore HELL HATH ENLARGED HERSELF, and opened her mouth without measure: and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth, SHALL DESCEND INTO IT." (Isaiah 5:14) "And he opened THE BOTTOMLESS PIT; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of A GREAT FURNACE; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit."(Rev 9:2)
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Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish [ought] from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you. Deut 4:2
Do not add to his words, or he will rebuke you and prove you a liar. Proverbs 30:6
I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book. Rev 22:18
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And if anyone takes words away from this book of prophecy, God will take away from him his share in the tree of life and in the holy city, which are described in this book. Rev 22:19
See that you do all I command you; do not add to it or take away from it. Deut 12:32
JW, Mormons, Catholics, 7th day Adventist, Christian Science, Islam etc are all guilty, these group claim to be of God but the deny his only Begotten Son Jesus Christ.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@ArchangelSean30 Can i ask you what you do with your faith? Besides surf youtube? exactly. Pointless to discuss.
Thuggishdeer 7 months ago
@Thuggishdeer I share my faith, i tell people how Jesus Christ saved me from the pits of Hell, and I am new creation in Christ. I am not of ashamed of the gospel of Jesus Christ, for he is God in Flesh Isaiah 7:14, 9:6.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Since the Greek word for “other” is not found in the Greek manuscripts, they bracket the word to indicate that they’re inserting a word that does not belong. This additional word does not help the flow or clarity of the text, but is instead designed to attack the explicit biblical teaching of Christ’s deity and role as Creator. Greek scholar and theologian Robert Reymond referred to the addition of “other” as “sheer theological perversity…”[2]
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
As an example of the deceptive practices of the Watchtower Society, the 1950 version of the NWT did not bracket the word “other,” making it appear that it was part of the Greek Text. Only since 1961, when pressured to do so by Bible scholars, did they add the brackets.
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NWT: Pay attention to yourselves and to all the flock, among which the holy spirit has appointed YOU overseers, to shepherd the congregation of God, which he purchased with the blood of his own [Son].
KJV: Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.
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DISCUSSION: Some more grammatical games and bracket inclusions combine to once again pervert Holy Scripture in order to deny the deity of Jesus Christ. Going through my collection of legitimate Bible translations (and some not-so good translations), I find the NWT stands alone in their mistranslation of this verse. The verse speaks of God purchasing the church “with His own blood”.
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This is obviously a reference to God the Son, Jesus Christ. What a powerful biblical testimony to the deity of Christ, and what an anathema to the neo-Arian doctrines of the Jehovah’s Witnesses! In order to overcome this, a little mistranslation is made to completely change the meaning and deceive their followers. Not a single extant Greek manuscript contains the word “son”.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
1. The Hebrew name for God is YHWH – four consonants only. Because of a nearly superstitious fear of taking the Lord’s name in vain, the Jews avoided using this name, and often used the name Adonai. Eventually, the vowels from Adonai were included in YHWH to form Yahowah. Today, this name is often spelled in English, Yahweh. As a human contrivance, Yahowah mutated to Jehovah in some manuscripts. Yahweh and Jehovah are considered synonymous, and mean “The LORD.”
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ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
2. Robert L. Reymond, Jesus, Divine Messiah: The New Testament Witness (Phillipsburg, NJ: Presbyterian and Reformed, 1990), p. 248.
3. Bruce Metzger; cited in Ron Rhodes, Reasoning from the Scriptures with the Jehovah’s Witnesses (Eugene, OR: Harvest House Publishers, 1993), p. 97.
4. H.H. Rowley, “How Not to Translate the Bible,” The Expository Times, No. 1953, pp.41-42.
5. Ibid.
6. William Barclay; cited in Rhodes, p. 97.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
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r No other religion believes stronger in bible principles than Jehovas witnesses (christians). Its a nice way to live, by gods standards all found in the bible.
There is One God, in three person which makes up the Godhead: God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit, these three are One. YOu just said gods so you are admitting that you are polytheists, since Watch Tower has alter john 1:1 by adding "a" in front of God(Theos)? YOur NWT is better that the Catholic Bible, pits of hell!
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@Thuggishdeer Most people think going to church on Sunday and sinning the rest of the week is faith. Its not.
So you think it's righteous to go too people homes knock on there doors and preach a false gospel that denies my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ as for who he is, God in the flesh Immanuel. Twist scripture around remove words deceive people to follow your brainwashing cult. And sending people to Hell in the process, your a puppet on the string and Satan is the puppet Master.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@ArchangelSean30 Faith is doing your best to follow gods principles and jesus' example. Jesus happened to be a pioneer preaching about his father going from place to place home to home trying to teach ignorant people about god.
You shouldn't judge people by what they do especially if u don't know much about it.
Its none of my business but whats your religion? Judging people? Well i dont know, but i just assumed it because i see u here judging a religion u know nothing about.
See what i mean.
Thuggishdeer 7 months ago
@ArchangelSean30 Truth is they take bibles with them and show you exactly what scriptures they're talking about in case u didn't know.
Fact: the bible mentions nothing about hell.
Ask yourself why would God (god of love kindness and mercy) burn his children eternally for sinning?
Wouldn't that make him a hypocrite?
That's one example of what they preach, People think hell exist but its not true.
Think about it before u dismiss it.
Thuggishdeer 7 months ago
@ArchangelSean30 let me conclude by saying most people say jehovas witnesses are a great organization and have helped many people change their lives. Drug addicts, murderers, adulteress, alcoholics turned their life around by simply living by gods standards and principles.
Most people dont commit to being a witness in my opinion because its too HARD for them to leave their old way of living because they have to change so much its hard work.
If u dont like it fine. but keep an open mind.
Thuggishdeer 7 months ago
The truth is that we are ordinary people who live ordinary live...however we know that following the commandments of God bring true happiness and protection. Jehovah's organizations is NOT A CULT, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES ARE NOT APART OF A CULT!!! THE BASIS OF OUR BELIEFS IS THAT WE WORSHIP GOD AND NOT MAN- Acts 5:29 ;-)
TheSweet406 7 months ago
ps..and as for the comments about Jehovah's Witnesses being illiterate..It truely shows who knows what the Bible teaches and how we, Jehovahs's Witnesses, can find comfort in knowing the apostle were men unlettered...Acts 4:13 "Now when they beheld the outspokenness of Peter and John, and perceived that they were men unlettered and ordinary, they got to wondering. And they began to recognize about them that they used to be with Jesus."
TheSweet406 7 months ago
in closing...Isaiah 34:8
TheSweet406 7 months ago
Also what I so truely love about being a J.W. is that I have made the truth my own...I know the Bible and no one, I mean NO ONE can take that from me!!!!
TheSweet406 7 months ago
last days...to all my fellow witnesses remember what Jesus said @ John 6:44...
So Jehovah knows those whose hearts are true!!! We aew blessed to have the knowledge we have!!! Stand firm and preach the word!!!
TheSweet406 7 months ago
If you are a witness and you have watched this video just as I have, I'm sure you are hurt!!! But I'm sure you have gained a friendship with the Father in Heaven and you know the truth. Sometimes as witnesses of the divine God we allow others to bring us to argue over the scriptures,,which is not wise...I do appreciate all the brothers and sisters who defended the truth. Its almost Jehovah's time to end all false religion any way!!! How much comfort we can find it knowing, we are living in the..
TheSweet406 7 months ago
I had a Jehovah witness tell me my Husaband was wrong for being in the Military.(They don't believe in any Waring institution, or killing...even in self defense.) A. I explained that my Hubby hadnt killed anyone yet, but if he did it would be to protect his life, or his fellow soldiers. B. That the only reason she was standing on my doorstep was thanks to those who fought for her freedom of religion....So ya soldiers are good enough to give her freedom but not to be 'saved'....JW's..no thanks!
777Luluseven 7 months ago
@777Luluseven JW are hypocrites, deceivers and unsaved !
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Besides u guys are wrong not just on trinity but life after death HeLL even Easter u mingled w chocolate bunnies
77blitzwing 7 months ago
One I'm a Christian not Catholic big difference, two the word Trinity doesn't appear in the Bile correct and wrong, the word Elohim(El is God , him is plural) represents the triune God 1 John 5:7 KJV. Easter and other biblical tradition has been bastardized by the Roman Catholic Church fusing biblical tradition with pagan. Real Easter represents Jesus victory of Death!
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
The various doctrine books teach that Christ possessed all the glory, nature, and attributes of God during His earthly life just as much as when He was in the form of God. They give us proof for their conclusion that Christ had:
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
& like I said YWHW refers to Jehovah the Father not the Son of God u r the 1 that is incorrect but u don't want to wrong
77blitzwing 7 months ago
YWHW represents God (Elohim) real name, Jesus is the image of the godhead"
...CHRIST, who is the IMAGE OF GOD..."
--II Corinthians 4:4
"...glory of GOD in the FACE OF JESUS CHRIST."
--II Corinthians 4:6
"GOD...hath in these last days spoken unto us by his SON...who being the brightness of his glory, and the EXPRESS IMAGE OF HIS PERSON..."
--Hebrews 1:1-3
what you are saying is not lining up with scripture, you have yet to use verse to explain your unbiblical view.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Jesus is the Son of God and his is God in the flesh, for God is the Messiah! Jesus is the creator and the image of the invisible God Col 1:15-18!
Jesus is the only begotten Son of the Father, which means Jesus is the image of Godhead,Jesus and the Father are "One". john 10:30
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Jesus was before Abraham means Jesus was Jahs first creation & still subordinate a son is never above a father even by definition a son is just that simply a son in this cause the first son of God Duh
77blitzwing 7 months ago
@77blitzwing I AM is YHWH in Hebrew, Jesus said before was "I AM" Abraham, Jesus is God/the creator Col1:15, Jesus and the Father are one, which means the Father, Son, Holy Spirit are equal and one in the same, they have different functions as "GOD"/Elohim, which points to the trinity. You don't know what you are talking about, you using English terms, instead of the Hebrew and Greek meaning in there proper context. You don't know scripture or the true meanings, you are "Spiritual blind".
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@77blitzwing Like I said get a real bible KJV not that corrupt NWT, you really show that you don't know scripture even basic hermeneutics, John 8:58 "Before Abraham was I AM" is the Hebrew Word for YWHW , John 8:58( Exodus 3:14, Isaiah 43:13).
duh you don't know scripture, how can you understand the Bible for you are born again of the Spirit! You constantly misrepresenting words and context of scripture.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Actually the Bible says Jesus is the son of God u say Jesus is God the truth is simple not complicated
77blitzwing 7 months ago
@77blitzwing You are making it complicated with your unbelief and not no understanding scripture in it's proper context. Son of God, in it's proper context is a declaration of equality with God,
If you ever read the book of John 10:30, then read up to verse 10:33 you see the Jews reaction; saying being a man, makest thyself God, and all they way too verse 42 many believed Jesus. Son of God is deity title.
Jesus said: "before Abraham was "I am" " (john8:58)!
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@77blitzwing
Rev 3:14 "Christ Jesus is called the beginning of creation of God." the Greek word "arche" is literally refers to Him(Jesus) as the originator or cause of creation".
Who is the image (eikon) of the invisible God, the firstborn of creation. Col 1:15
eikon means in Greek direct image or prototype( the original form from which it is drawn), not merely a thing resembles (e.g., the reflection of the sun in the water is an eikon). Paul was telling the Colo here that Jesus Christ
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@77blitzwing has a "prototype," God the Father who is invisible. The relationship between Christ and the Father God is not coincidental. John 1:18 and Phili 2:6-8
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
I can quote scripture & make u like silly but what's the point if u don't want to learn only disproof
77blitzwing 7 months ago
@77blitzwing No you cant cant, if you did you would have done it already. You make yourself look silly, you havent prove nothing only your ignorance of Biblical scripture in it's proper context, which you know nothing about. The Bible says Jesus is God, and you say no!
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@ArchangelSean30 Jesus is the son of God. Read John 17:3 and Matthew 3:16, 17 and Colossians 1:16.
lcvideofreak1 7 months ago
God is Messiah.
...unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder...and his name shall be called... The mighty God, The everlasting Father... Isaiah 9:6
Jesus is Messiah.
The woman saith unto him, I know that Messiah cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he. John 4:25-26
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@77blitzwing
God is our redeemer.
[T]hou, O LORD, art our father, our redeemer.. Isaiah 63:16
Jesus redeemed us.
[T]the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ...gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity.. Titus 2:13-14
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
First off don't tell me who I hate Jesus is the savior but is not God you have a lot to learn
77blitzwing 7 months ago
@77blitzwing You just acknowledge Jesus as God and don't even know it, Jesus is the Savior which makes him God; for God is the only Savior Isaiah 43:11! ..the Father sent the Son to be the Saviour of the world. 1 John 4:14
...our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. II Peter 3:18
...God and our Saviour Jesus Christ. II Peter 1:1
...the Christ, the Saviour of the world. John 4:42
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
If the Holy spirit is the breath of God it's not God therefore it is not a person but rather Gods force hence it's NOT a 3rd person
77blitzwing 7 months ago
@77blitzwing What you just is not even supported by the Bible, Holy spirit is God which is mention from the Old and New Testament.
You have no Biblical bases, you are grasping at straws.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Would Jesus had refer to me as hoe? I don't think so u just made yourself look ridiculous trying to teach me by then insulting? Good luck trying to make disciples God is not w u that's why all the churches r being abondonef people see thru hypocrisy
77blitzwing 7 months ago
Funny how u people start with the insults as soon as u stomp on your own beliefs & how in reality can't apply scripture to daily life & u claim u know scripture yet u don't apply it
77blitzwing 7 months ago
& your wrong again Messiah equals anointed meaning chosen by God it doesn't mean God in the flesh Bible clearly states God is a Spirit & his Holy spirit is not a person it's his force a person can not be full of another person but he can be full of Holy spirit
77blitzwing 7 months ago
Job 33:4 "Breath of the Almighty", means The Holy Spirit is the life-giving breath of God.
2Cor 3:16-17 "LORD" Like Jesus and the Father, the Holy spirit is also addressed and worshiped as Lord.
Isaiah 11:12 "Spirit of Might" The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Strength.
Isaiah 4:4;28:6 "Spirit of Judgment" the Spirit of God brings conviction and judgment.
Acts 5:3-4 "GOD" the Holy Spirit is the the third person of the Trinity. He is God.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Genesis 1:2; 1 Cor 2:11; Job 33:4 "Spirit of God" The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of the Triune GOD.
What you say without Scripture is fleshly, for the spirit of God testified of God. The Spirit is not a force, for he is God, he connects us with the Father and Son. Like I said unless you now the Hebrew meanings of God title you will never now God (Elohim). You no Biblical bases only fleshly theories, which is of Satan. Since you are not Born again you are lost and condemned John 3:18!
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
@77blitzwing You hate God so much that you denied his Only Begotten Son Jesus, you have no Biblical bases to support your Satan stance, you are following a Cult that is Antichrist 1John 2:22, and you wonder why you can't grasp the Word of God (Elohim).
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
3 in 1 is nice science fiction used first by pagans Babylonians etc.. & u can't grasp the simple idea of God sacrificing his Son it doesn't say God sacrificed himself it's Simple!!!!
77blitzwing 7 months ago
@77blitzwing The Word (Elohim) God points to the Trinity hoe can you say something you dont even know Hebrew words that are pertained in the Bible especially the Titles of God, God did sacrifice himself it shows you don't know Biblical scripture at all.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Simply put The Vicepresident is not the Same as the President they have the same agenda but not the same person I can't believe something so simple is difficult for u to grasp
77blitzwing 7 months ago
@77blitzwing You cant grasp the Word of God, for you are not spiritual discern! It's sad to me and too real Bible believing Christians that read when you read Word of God, that you can't see that Jesus and the Father, Holy Spirit are One, and Jesus is the Image of God in flesh! But like I said you are not spiritual discern.
I have should you scriptures, and what it means in context, your only reason is theory,opinions that is not Biblical base, base on fleshly base.
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago
Someone that is sent is not in control is receiving & carrying out orders HeLLOoo! Does that make sense to u? can u grasp this simple concept? Or are u confused
77blitzwing 7 months ago
@77blitzwing Concept that Watch Tower is Satan playground, yes I understand but you don't! You cant grasp that God came in the flesh which was prophecies in the Old testament especially in Isaiah which talks about the Messiah which is God in flesh,Lord (Jesus)first and second coming, resurrection, crucifixion, rapture of the church! Once you stop being so religious, you will see that Jesus Christ is God and Lord, if you don't this whats is going to happen to you Phillip 2:10-11!
ArchangelSean30 7 months ago