I advocate voting constitution party or libertarian. I don't believe sins should be illegal. What if a candidate is pro-life and wrong on every other issue?
@BoloBeachBall You said "I don't believe sins should be illegal." Murder is a sin. According to what you said, you would think murder should be legal.
@slaves4christ I overestimated that the audience would take some things as a given. Why would you even say something so stupid and insulting? For one I subscribed to your channel. I can't sink to your level of banter, of course murder is a sin and should be illegal. I mean your comments here are really dumb. You talk like a child
Should we call for the outlaw of homosexuality? No, it would be impossible to enforce and would be too much strain on resources already stretched, it is much easier to regulate in already established systems.
Should practicing homosexuals be kicked out of the church if they will not repent? Yes absolutely without doubt and without hesitation, they do not have salvation and will never attain it unrepentant.
@MrTmapp Yes we should call for it to be outlawed.
Your logic is bad and immoral. According your logic, we should legalize all rape and murder because they are an incredible strain on resources and are tough to enforce.
@slaves4christ No my logic is perfectly fine and perfectly moral. Homosexuality only causes harm to homosexuals and they will face Gods judgement. HS break Gods law and He will deal with them. Noone in the act of hs is an innocent victim.
Rape and murder are deliberate crimes against a person and as such should be outlawed. They cause serious harm to innocent victims and this is why policing resources should be focused on them.
@slaves4christ Further to my previous The Bible clearly states that matters of sexual immorality are to be dealt with by the church only in the case of sexual immorality within the church, not outside of it and that God will judge those outside without our help. The position of the presenter is in opposition to 1 Corinth 5 - 9. On this matter he is Biblically untenable.
@MrTmapp He's not talking about the church dealing with sexual immorality of unbelievers. He's talking about how the government should be dealing with it.
As far as only judging those within the church, Paul is clearly explaining how Christians are supposed to expel sexually immoral people from the church and keep company immoral people who claim to be Christians. He doesn't say we shouldn't be in favor of the gov't following God's example and executed adulterers, homosexuals, etc.
@slaves4christ That is only punishment via proxy, he shouldn't even concern himself with the matter of mutual sexual sin committed by those outside of the church, what's next, trying to get the govt to enforce no sex before marriage? Its just ridiculous, it's legalism and it is a waste of time, money and energy. Only those who are sanctified by Christ will obey the laws of Christ so his unbiblical approach is worthless. Deal with the Sin in the church, do not concern yourself with the worlds'
@slaves4christ I've already told you my opinion on murder, rape and theft, they are crimes with victims and as such must be legislated. Stop trying to falsely accuse my morality.
God passed His Laws for His people to Glorify Himself through the expressed righteousness of HIS people. God will judge those who will not repent.
@MrTmapp I'm sorry, I didn't see your reply from 6 days ago until now.
But your argument for not having laws against sexual crimes like God did when he set up his gov't was "Only those who are sanctified by Christ will obey the laws of Christ"
So what is the point in having laws against rape, murder, etc?
As you said "Deal with the Sin in the church, do not concern yourself with the worlds'"
And why don't you consider laws against rape, murder, theft legalism?
@slaves4christ point 1 was rape, murder etc has an innocent victim, that as a result of criminal activity is hurt. These are not crimes of morality, they are criminal in nature.
point 2 is that as for God's laws that pertain precisely to morality these are the Laws set down for the elect of God. Disobedience and He will punish, it is not up to us. This is why it is legalism to impose the morality laws of God on an unbelieving world. They will be punished anyway.
You can call them what you want, but according the creator of the universe, the only absolute authority, adultery and homosexuality are crimes that should be punished with death, along with rape, murder, kidnapping, etc.
@slaves4christ For crying out loud, if something is criminal it is also automatically immoral. But immoral does not automatically make it criminal. God is not a victim, He is in absolute control.
According to the creator of the universe He will not condemn the living woman caught in adultery and instead He said go and Sin no more for neither do I condemn you. God will judge the dead on their disobedience to His Law. While you are living He is the God of second chances.
@slaves4christ I don't know what kind of cultist religionism you have subscribed yourself to but if you are going to make those statements then use the Bible as your judgement seat, you'd be locking up men who so much as looked lustfully at a woman (ALL MEN IN SUNDRY INCLUDING YOU) and anyone who hated anyone for the briefest second. And these judgements you make are not Biblical and they have no seat with Christ.
There is a strong likelihood that the Pro-Lifers would have won this war and saved millions of unborn children if we had given the public only 2 options immediately after Roe v Wade was handed down. Those 2 options are: abortion on demand, for any reason or no reason whatsoever up until the moment of birth; or no abortions with no exceptions in any circumstance. If we had forced the public to pick either of those 2, we probably would have ended this war decades ago and saved countless children.
this is utter nonsense, if you want to follow the bible you are entitled to, but trying to make the bible the law is some dumb shit, i dont get why people cant just be happy with what trhey beleive, why do they always try to force it on others, i guess it dosent relly matter though, religion will never win
@scandall2012 Then whose ideas should we go by for our laws? It's always going to be based on someone's worldview/religion. It's just a question of which one. Many of our laws are based on a biblical worldview, but now more and more they are based on a humanist/atheist philosophy.
You don't really believe we are entitled to follow the Bible and believe it because you don't think we should put into practice what it teaches. If we aren't going to obey God's Word, we might as well be pagans.
@slaves4christ Please, do not tell me what i really believe, you are more then welcome to put your god's word into practice, therefore don't view pornography and please to not get any abortions, but just because your sacred book says it wrong dosen't mean thats how i view the world, I dont understand why people try to cram what THEY believe, down MY throat. I'm happy with how I live, why can't you be happy with how you live.
@slaves4christ I actually haven't told you what I believe, I was just using examples of how some people view the world, oh well, I guess we can't all be critical thinkers.
@scandall2012 So you were lying when you said I am entitled to follow the Bible or when you said we shouldn't make the Bible law? You believe one or the other. But but don't be too upset, over time you can develop critical thinking skills.
@slaves4christ lmao, "So you were lying when you said I am entitled to follow the Bible or when you said we shouldn't make the Bible law? You believe one or the other." lol, yea because there are only two viewpoints i could choose, it has to be one or the other, lol you are aware that there are thousands of gods and prophets to choose from right?
@slaves4christ O.K, if jesus will win, why do you worry so much about me viewing pornography and getting countless abortions, jesus is gonna win no matter what and I'm gonna be the loser no matter what, so why can't the losers just enjoy there time here on earth without you trying to interfere with their lives, I don't understand this.
@scandall2012 Because Jesus and I have love for you and care about you, your soul, and those that are murdered or used sexually. You are not a loser no matter what. Jesus died for you so that you can life will change, so you won't destroy yourself and others, so that you can join him on the winning team. But it is your choice whether you want to repent of your sins and follow him for the rest of life or choose to reject his grace and endure hell.
I advocate voting constitution party or libertarian. I don't believe sins should be illegal. What if a candidate is pro-life and wrong on every other issue?
BoloBeachBall 1 week ago
@BoloBeachBall Murder is a sin. I guess in your view, that shouldn't be illegal.
slaves4christ 3 days ago
@slaves4christ I think you made a bad interpretation of the statement. You haven't read the constitution party platform I guess.
BoloBeachBall 2 days ago
@BoloBeachBall You said "I don't believe sins should be illegal." Murder is a sin. According to what you said, you would think murder should be legal.
slaves4christ 2 days ago
@slaves4christ I overestimated that the audience would take some things as a given. Why would you even say something so stupid and insulting? For one I subscribed to your channel. I can't sink to your level of banter, of course murder is a sin and should be illegal. I mean your comments here are really dumb. You talk like a child
BoloBeachBall 2 days ago
Should we call for the outlaw of homosexuality? No, it would be impossible to enforce and would be too much strain on resources already stretched, it is much easier to regulate in already established systems.
Should practicing homosexuals be kicked out of the church if they will not repent? Yes absolutely without doubt and without hesitation, they do not have salvation and will never attain it unrepentant.
MrTmapp 1 week ago in playlist Focus on the Strategy
@MrTmapp Yes we should call for it to be outlawed.
Your logic is bad and immoral. According your logic, we should legalize all rape and murder because they are an incredible strain on resources and are tough to enforce.
slaves4christ 1 week ago
@slaves4christ No my logic is perfectly fine and perfectly moral. Homosexuality only causes harm to homosexuals and they will face Gods judgement. HS break Gods law and He will deal with them. Noone in the act of hs is an innocent victim.
Rape and murder are deliberate crimes against a person and as such should be outlawed. They cause serious harm to innocent victims and this is why policing resources should be focused on them.
Let God deal with His transgressors.
MrTmapp 1 week ago
@slaves4christ Further to my previous The Bible clearly states that matters of sexual immorality are to be dealt with by the church only in the case of sexual immorality within the church, not outside of it and that God will judge those outside without our help. The position of the presenter is in opposition to 1 Corinth 5 - 9. On this matter he is Biblically untenable.
MrTmapp 1 week ago
@MrTmapp He's not talking about the church dealing with sexual immorality of unbelievers. He's talking about how the government should be dealing with it.
As far as only judging those within the church, Paul is clearly explaining how Christians are supposed to expel sexually immoral people from the church and keep company immoral people who claim to be Christians. He doesn't say we shouldn't be in favor of the gov't following God's example and executed adulterers, homosexuals, etc.
slaves4christ 4 days ago
@slaves4christ That is only punishment via proxy, he shouldn't even concern himself with the matter of mutual sexual sin committed by those outside of the church, what's next, trying to get the govt to enforce no sex before marriage? Its just ridiculous, it's legalism and it is a waste of time, money and energy. Only those who are sanctified by Christ will obey the laws of Christ so his unbiblical approach is worthless. Deal with the Sin in the church, do not concern yourself with the worlds'
MrTmapp 4 days ago
@MrTmapp So you'd be fine if murder, rape and theft were all legalized?
Do you not think it is a loving thing to protect children and prevent families from being destroyed by outlawing adultery? God did.
slaves4christ 3 days ago
@slaves4christ I've already told you my opinion on murder, rape and theft, they are crimes with victims and as such must be legislated. Stop trying to falsely accuse my morality.
God passed His Laws for His people to Glorify Himself through the expressed righteousness of HIS people. God will judge those who will not repent.
MrTmapp 3 days ago
@MrTmapp I'm sorry, I didn't see your reply from 6 days ago until now.
But your argument for not having laws against sexual crimes like God did when he set up his gov't was "Only those who are sanctified by Christ will obey the laws of Christ"
So what is the point in having laws against rape, murder, etc?
As you said "Deal with the Sin in the church, do not concern yourself with the worlds'"
And why don't you consider laws against rape, murder, theft legalism?
slaves4christ 3 days ago
@slaves4christ point 1 was rape, murder etc has an innocent victim, that as a result of criminal activity is hurt. These are not crimes of morality, they are criminal in nature.
point 2 is that as for God's laws that pertain precisely to morality these are the Laws set down for the elect of God. Disobedience and He will punish, it is not up to us. This is why it is legalism to impose the morality laws of God on an unbelieving world. They will be punished anyway.
MrTmapp 3 days ago
@MrTmapp So you are saying rape is not immoral?!
You can call them what you want, but according the creator of the universe, the only absolute authority, adultery and homosexuality are crimes that should be punished with death, along with rape, murder, kidnapping, etc.
slaves4christ 2 days ago
@slaves4christ For crying out loud, if something is criminal it is also automatically immoral. But immoral does not automatically make it criminal. God is not a victim, He is in absolute control.
According to the creator of the universe He will not condemn the living woman caught in adultery and instead He said go and Sin no more for neither do I condemn you. God will judge the dead on their disobedience to His Law. While you are living He is the God of second chances.
MrTmapp 1 day ago
@slaves4christ I don't know what kind of cultist religionism you have subscribed yourself to but if you are going to make those statements then use the Bible as your judgement seat, you'd be locking up men who so much as looked lustfully at a woman (ALL MEN IN SUNDRY INCLUDING YOU) and anyone who hated anyone for the briefest second. And these judgements you make are not Biblical and they have no seat with Christ.
MrTmapp 1 day ago
There is a strong likelihood that the Pro-Lifers would have won this war and saved millions of unborn children if we had given the public only 2 options immediately after Roe v Wade was handed down. Those 2 options are: abortion on demand, for any reason or no reason whatsoever up until the moment of birth; or no abortions with no exceptions in any circumstance. If we had forced the public to pick either of those 2, we probably would have ended this war decades ago and saved countless children.
LifeisagiftfromGod 1 year ago
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LifeisagiftfromGod 1 year ago
this is utter nonsense, if you want to follow the bible you are entitled to, but trying to make the bible the law is some dumb shit, i dont get why people cant just be happy with what trhey beleive, why do they always try to force it on others, i guess it dosent relly matter though, religion will never win
scandall2012 1 year ago
@scandall2012 Then whose ideas should we go by for our laws? It's always going to be based on someone's worldview/religion. It's just a question of which one. Many of our laws are based on a biblical worldview, but now more and more they are based on a humanist/atheist philosophy.
You don't really believe we are entitled to follow the Bible and believe it because you don't think we should put into practice what it teaches. If we aren't going to obey God's Word, we might as well be pagans.
slaves4christ 1 year ago
@slaves4christ Please, do not tell me what i really believe, you are more then welcome to put your god's word into practice, therefore don't view pornography and please to not get any abortions, but just because your sacred book says it wrong dosen't mean thats how i view the world, I dont understand why people try to cram what THEY believe, down MY throat. I'm happy with how I live, why can't you be happy with how you live.
scandall2012 1 year ago
@scandall2012 How bout you don't tell me how to practice my faith and I won't tell you what you believe? (I'll just let your words contradict you).
And while you're at it, stop cramming your beliefs down our throats.
slaves4christ 1 year ago
@slaves4christ I actually haven't told you what I believe, I was just using examples of how some people view the world, oh well, I guess we can't all be critical thinkers.
scandall2012 1 year ago
@scandall2012 So you were lying when you said I am entitled to follow the Bible or when you said we shouldn't make the Bible law? You believe one or the other. But but don't be too upset, over time you can develop critical thinking skills.
slaves4christ 1 year ago
@slaves4christ lmao, "So you were lying when you said I am entitled to follow the Bible or when you said we shouldn't make the Bible law? You believe one or the other." lol, yea because there are only two viewpoints i could choose, it has to be one or the other, lol you are aware that there are thousands of gods and prophets to choose from right?
scandall2012 1 year ago
@scandall2012 You are right, religion will never win. But Jesus will.
slaves4christ 1 year ago
@slaves4christ O.K, if jesus will win, why do you worry so much about me viewing pornography and getting countless abortions, jesus is gonna win no matter what and I'm gonna be the loser no matter what, so why can't the losers just enjoy there time here on earth without you trying to interfere with their lives, I don't understand this.
scandall2012 1 year ago
@scandall2012 Because Jesus and I have love for you and care about you, your soul, and those that are murdered or used sexually. You are not a loser no matter what. Jesus died for you so that you can life will change, so you won't destroy yourself and others, so that you can join him on the winning team. But it is your choice whether you want to repent of your sins and follow him for the rest of life or choose to reject his grace and endure hell.
slaves4christ 1 year ago
This totally contradicts itself! The law should not follow the rules of men but of God, i.e. the Bible. God did not write the Bible, men did.
HeathBye 1 year ago