Yi Zong Gao Shou Dao Ba Gua Zhang

[carlossotoalcaraz]

Preciosa técnica felicidades.

[alekx58]

click fen se cai scha fen wan

[arbizm]

Are these techniques from tan - testing palm

[Manpheus]

You provided me lots of ways to practice!

[Elhananm]

Hi,

It's great compliment tnx.

Can you elaborate please?

Hanan

[008zeets]

Hi

There has been talk of a big gathering of Yizong bagua teachers and students in Taiwan in October. Hopefully I will be able to make it as I missed Luo's seminars last year and it would be a fantastic experience

[Elhananm]

I have heard of it but as far as I know for now. There are many difficulties in arranging it.

[008zeets]

Hi again

I am taught by Danny Doherty in Glasgow and also Ed Hines who is a student of Luo DeXiu and is based in Paris but comes to Glasgow very regularly for weekend seminars.

[Elhananm]

Hi,

Great to hear that, I heard good things about Ed Hines...

Will be great to visit Glasgow someday and train...

Hanan

[BillyPilgrims]

Looks nice, with whom do you study Yizong, if I may ask?

Buddy

[Elhananm]

Hi Billy,

I study the Yi Zong style from Ben Foux, one of Luo De Xiu's first generation students.

I also met Luo few times.

My style is mainly influenced from the Liu Fang Cai lineage as well and from some trainings with Su Dong Chen, when I invited him to Israel last year.

With whom do you train?

Hanan

[BillyPilgrims]

Hi Hanan,

I didn't recognize your Hebrew name. Su must have been an exciting mix. Laoshi told me stories of him.

Where does your Liu lineage come from?

Cheers,

Buddy Tripp

[Elhananm]

Hi Buddy,

Su is very good in what he does, for more info feel free to write me to my E-mail.

Luo is one of the best I ever seen and trained with, he's a great person, great teacher and great martial artist.

My lineage is from Tianjin, I trained under Han Feng Rui who was Liu Fang Cai's most beloved student, he spent with Liu about 25-30 years of trainng.

Hanan

[008zeets]

Great example of Gao style

[Elhananm]

Tnx, are you Gao style prectitioner?

I'm working onnother clips, hope to upload them in the future, and also my students training.

[Elhananm]

Hi there,

I saw you wrote a comment but then removed it.

Anyway I do both Zhang Jun Feng and Liu Feng Cai. for me they are the two extrems of the same scale....and I try to move in between these two extrems. In my learning and training process I mean.

[008zeets]

Hi again

Yes I train in Gao style as taught by Luo DeXiu. I see you train both branches of this. I believe that the Liu Feng Cai branch is small frame? Doing both branches sounds very interesting. I am thinking about training in the Yin style also to see if it can compliment the Gao style. It looks very different to what I am doing so I don't know if I will be able to devote the time needed to do both.

Any advice would be appreciated

[Elhananm]

Hi There,

Great to hear that you do also Gao style, who is your teacher?

Luo's style is great, and Luo is a great person and a teacher.

Advice?- just do what you like and promotes your understanding.

Cheers

[fanfan33000]

Nice entry to headbutt at 1:43. Sometimes simple is best! Alot of people see complex entries and say "well what if they don't give you the arm in response to the asking hand?" Well.. you hit them. maybe with your own head :D

[Elhananm]

Hi there fanfan,

I see that your a Gao prectitioner yourself.

Thank you for your comments on the clip.

Please send my best regards to Mr. Yusen, I have comunicated with him in the past at emptyflower.

Hanan

[mixjourneyman]

This is a great demo.  I am very glad to see traditional bagua on youtube :D

[Elhananm]

Hi there mixjourneyman,

Thank you for your comment, espeically from someone that appriciate what he sees.

Please keep in touch it looks like we have a lot in common.

Hanan

[PhilKuu777]

Very good - nice job!

[Elhananm]

What do you mean?

There are take downs in BGZ Gao style, I demo some of them in the clip, we don't go all the way for the throw in this particular demo.

[Elhananm]

:-).

First of all thanks for your comment.

I didn't understand your remark- "It might not be against a live opponent"?

It's always easy to fight against dead opponent....

This is only a glimps of our basic techniques, and flow between techniques.

This is by no means a realistic demo, but only simple demo of different techniques.

[ohnomrtoes]

I like this - It might not be against a live opponent but it looks very practical to me. Thanks for posting!

[Elhananm]

Hi Piaten,

Thank you for your comment but please remember that this is a demo not a fight.

And second please refer a few comments above I have refered to this question by Burettosen and answered him.

All the best,

[piaten]

Hey, why is the "attacker" standing still?! While I do respect your teachers, this clip doesn't really give any clue whether you got something or not. I suggest next time you have your partner actually try to attack and test you!

[burettosan]

I respect that. And I appreciate your time and reply.

[burettosan]

Moving is essential in the instance of multiple opponents or when even the most remote possibility exists - eg a mugging in the street. Not to mention it can offset incoming centifugal forces, make your opponent over-compensate his line of attack, when a sudden change will leave him swinging in the breeze. I thought this was a basic fundamental?

I could be wrong - I know nothing of Gao style, so I apologise if I am out of line.

[Elhananm]

Hello Burettosan,

Thank you for your comments and insight, you are not out of line.

You are right in all of your remarks but...

I remind you this is one angle video demo, there for I didn't move because a clear view of the application was more important than moving and changing angles which will result in missing a clear view of the application.

Once agan thanks for the comments, I will take it into consideration when making the next clips.

[burettosan]

Well, you are standing dead still. Shouldn't you be walking? The principles are only manifested in your upper torso - not your whole body. I don't dispute your lineage - but it looks more like chi sao and the principle you describe sound like tai chi - which I understand is similar - but bagua is more than that. its fine as a demonstration but i think if it is application - you should be moving. If you don't already do this, perhaps it is something you could explore.

[burettosan]

While the tech looks good, it doesn't really resemble bagua anymore. Looks somewhat similar to the wing chun chi sao. It would be good if you weren't always such a target and moved a little.

[Elhananm]

Well... thank you very much for your insight and comments.

As for the music I think it's much batter then the tacky Chinese music you can find in other clips, but it's a matter of ones taste in music :-).

[Elhananm]

The techniques presented here are basic long and big, just to show people the essence of our fighting system. When I was a begginer I thought like you that it's indeed looks like Wing Chun. But as I gained more experience in BGZ I realized that the only common thing is the short range and not the core principles.

Would love to explain and eleborate to you more if you have any questions.

Elhananm

[burettosan]

Fair comment about the music, I respect the difference of opinion.

I'd like to know more about your art.

If you intend on posting any more clips, I'd love to see some showing how/where the core principles of BGZ manifest in what you are doing, and why they are unique to BGZ.

Thank you in advance.

[Elhananm]

Hi Burettosan,

Thanks for your questions and interest in what I'm doing.

I basically work and teach in seminars 3 main principles of BGZ:

1. Flow

2. Change.

3. Take more than what he wants to give, and give more than what he wants to take (as phrased by Luo De Xiu).

I will put more clips soon....

[Elhananm]

One more thing that I wanted to ask you.

When you say that my techniques doesn't really resemble bagua what do you mean?

I have learned BGZ from 4 great teachers:

A. Han Fang Rui- 4 years in China.

B. Chan Bao Zhen- my BGZ weapon teacher 3 years in China.

C. Zee'v Foux- One of Luo De Xiu's top students, my teacher for the past 10 years.

D. Luo De Xiu- I have studied with him on his yearly visits for seminars in Israel.

[Elhananm]

All of those teachers are highly respected not to mention highly skilled with the Gao style BGZ system. They approved my BGZ so I think it's BGZ (well... I'm sure it's BGZ).

What you see in the clip is pure techiques, pure fighting skills. Joint locking, Throwing techniques, hitting techniques, transition techniques, manipulation etc.

But... will be happy to show you and others that interested more of what we have.

Stay tuned:-)

[burettosan]

Shame about the music.

[StevenRayW]

I'd love to see some of the applications you learned from Mr. Han

[Elhananm]

working on it.....

Stay tuned and tnx for watching

[Beijibryn]

This is by far some of the best applications of bagua I've seen on youtube.

[Elhananm]

Hi Beijibryn,

Tnx for the complements. I hope to put some more stuff in the near future, stay tuned.

[jeromeweng]

I think that this guy learnt from Mr Luo de Xiu.

[Elhananm]

Hi Jerome,

Actually the guy in the clip is me.

As it's writen on the right side (next to the clip) I practice both Tianjin and Yi Zong, Gao style BGZ.

I have met Luo De Xiu few times in the seminars he did in Israel and I have learnt a lot from him.

My Gao BGZ is influenced from Luo De Xiu and his student (Ben Foux in Israel- he's my teacher) and from Mr. Han Fang Rui from Tianjin with whom I have practiced for 4 years in Tianji China.

Tnx for the comment,

Hanan

[jeromeweng]

Nice to hear from someone who practises Gao BGZ. I like it becasue it has good internal structure which give powers. My friend was in Taipei December 2007 to learn from Mr Luo.

[jeromeweng]

However, this guy is a troublemaker in Taipei. He likes to keep a distance from people in the west who learns Gao BGZ. He is a weirdo who is expeled from a tai chi school.

[jeromeweng]

I can't remember his surname but he goes by the name of Jason.

[jeromeweng]

My friend told me that a snake throw is done from pre-heaven and post-heaven application. Probably you have done it in the seminars.

[yinghonghaohan319]

Cool! Thanks for posting!

[macgalli]

Good stuff Hanan, cool and thx again for the info you sent me, I appreciate.

Michael