You know, I understand that he is probably very skilled and he could do that to anyone. But can anyone explain to me why every opponent try to hold his hand?
@Nate3457 (I'm fairly new, so my answer might not be 100%) but in Aikido, the defender positions himself in a way that is dangerous or confusing to the attacker (e.g. behind him, next to him, or somewhere he can't continue his attack). This makes the attacker vulnerable; he needs to hold your hand to defend himself, and to feel where you are so he can keep attacking. IF he lets go, his attack ends (but less spectacularly), which was the goal anyways. Hope this was helpful.
@FUBARbyBOOZE So by the way you're explaining, the master is just defending without intend of attacking, while the opponent is just trying to maintain an offensive position and not let go of it. Is that right? I was thinking it was just "for show", but if it's like that, I can understand the reason for going for the hand. Thanks.
@Nate3457 Yep! The master never attacks - but he always poses a threat. So if you let go of the hand, you will not be able to attack, AND you risk getting a foot up your ass.
Seven Segal's Aikido is quite aggressive and looks so cool, but I guess Master Ueshiba just doesnt want to hurt his students, and theres just such an aesthetic quality about how he does aikido
Part of the reason that people doubt Aikido is that a lot of people who practice it don't truly understand what it is. People learn techniques, which are great, they help us learn how our bodies move and how the geometry of Aikido works. But these are just stepping stones. True Aikido does not use techniques, for the idea of 'trying' to apply a technique means that you can be resisted. If you are truly harmonized with your attacker then you are in sync with them, and the technique forms itself.
I could be wrong but in my humble opinion Moriteru Uesiba techniques seem to be crisper than his dads.Not looking for a fight its just my observation.
@groundpounder35 You're right. Not everybody can reach the same grance level, and obviously, O'sensei is unreachable. Although, in my case, I do prefer pre 1945 O'sensei's Aikido, which might sound less harmonious, but is more accorded to nowadays scenario.
@yowyOw69 Yeah I agree, i prefer things when they called it Aikibudo. I have a teacher who said he wants to put the harm back in harmony. I agree, and I think you do to.
my problem with these kinds of demonstrations is that the people who are attacking him aren't coming at him with anything.. theyre just running at him with their arms out. I would like to see a demonstration where aikido reacts to different martial arts. Like you would have 2 minutes of aikido defending against boxing, and then 2 minutes of aikido defending against karate, etc.
What people also tend to forget it is choreographed which makes it look better than what it really is.... I wonder how he would deal with real attacks and not the silly hand waving wrist grabbing hugging stuff you see, and how he would deal with people actually resisting him!? I bet it would look totally different!!!!! But we'll never know cause they wont, saying its not in harmony with the spirit or some such guff..... This is prance and dance...... nothing else..... As for the martial?
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This is embarrassing. This is a dance show. The Grandmaster of the sport- I take it with the name "Ueshiba" he's related to the sport 's creator, and he still needs opponents to throw themselves around. Forgeg this bullshit about "if they didn't they'd suffer"- they are OFFERING UP THEIR ARMS. The grandmaster can't deal with a simple punch, and in my experience even simple aikidoka will admit they can't. This is a martial sport- not self defense.
@NYCNECH Understand that they are throwing themselves to avoid injury. They do a roll to avoid a broken wrist. And I assure you, Doshu Moriteru could very easily so all of these techniques from a punch; this is just a demonstration.
@NYCNECH I feel I need to elaborate more. These techniques could very easily be made to work and do damage. It is not in the interest to hurt your partner in Aikido. The uke in this demonstration are there to help, he doesn't not NEED them to throw themselves, but there is no sense in throwing them and causing harm.
@madsli your about half right. It's sort of a formal way of saying ouch! Im not a wrestling fan so I may be mistaken but it is a similar kind of thing to tapping out.
That clapping the floor is it a way of saying: "i recognize that you have deffeated me this round, and that you could easily break my arm in this state"?
This is all very pretty, but it also looks to the untrained eye (me) like it could just as easily be active-compliance on the part of his opponents... some of them really look like they're leaping into the throws.
I was thinking of trying out Aikido prior to looking at this video. It's actually made me more doubtful rather than less...
@Leushenko Please realize that aikido is not just learning how to throw someone, but a big part is learning how to be thrown. It's called "ukemi" which translates to something like "the art of falling". So, yes... for many of the techniques, the uke (person receiving the technique) IS going with it because if they did not, they risk being injured by the person performing the technique (called the "nage" or "tori").
@btocp I got to sit in on an Aikijitsu-ka for his 3rd degree black belt test. Our top Aikido-ka asked if he could resist a little bit, you know, give the testee a difficult time, and sensei said that was fine. When he did resist, the jitsu guy hit him, half force, enough to stun our guy and complete his technique. No where in our training is there preparations for actually taking a hit. Always ready to fall, sure, but never thinking about actually getting hit. :)
@jinsuihito Sounds like a huge gap in training, not a flaw with Aikido. I can't recall where, but I read that O-Sensei wouldn't even take a student if he/she wasn't already a black belt. Personally, I've studied striking martial arts, so I've been hit in training. I've been in real fights, so I've been hit. (And no, I didn't always win.) That said, sounds like the 'top" Aikidoka was taken by surprise when the testee used proper atemi; not to inflict pain as much as distract. Hope dude passed.
@btocp I got to sit in on an Aikijitsu-ka for his 3rd degree black belt test. Our top Aikido-ka asked if he could resist a little bit, you know, give the testee a difficult time, and sensei said that was fine. When he did resist, the jitsu guy hit him, half force, enough to stun our guy and complete his technique. No where in our training is there preparations for actually taking a hit. Always ready to fall, sure, but never thinking about actually getting hit. :)
@jinsuihito As btocp already noticed, that sure sounds like something you might want to politely ask sensei about – about changing this aspect in your training. O'Sensei is often quoted as saying that Aikido is 90% Atemi (and Prof. Goldsbury has a point when he says that is completely wrong, Aikido is 100% Atemi, even if you don't see them). O'Sensei reportedly also said that there are three places for Atemi: before, during, and after a technique. Also check out George Ledyard on this topic.
@btocp I got to sit in on an Aikijitsu-ka for his 3rd degree black belt test. Our top Aikido-ka asked if he could resist a little bit, you know, give the testee a difficult time, and sensei said that was fine. When he did resist, the jitsu guy hit him, half force, enough to stun our guy and complete his technique. No where in our training is there preparations for actually taking a hit. Always ready to fall, sure, but never thinking about actually getting hit. :)
@btocp The aikido isn't only how to throw someone and it isnt only how to be trhown... Thats a too poor definition. The aikido is the way to move what cant be moved with your "jara" force. Is the way to use your body without using that at all...
@btocp person doing the technique is called shite or tori, nage is throw, as in nagewaza, being throwing techniques. Ukemi is to receive something, you can excersize ukemi from a punch.
@btocp I think the problem people see when they watch any aiki art aikido especially is the fact that uke's are throwing themselves. They aren't taking a technique and then taking a proper fall they are just chucking themselves on contact out of reaction. That's actually horrible ukemi not good ukemi. Looks great trains bad habits and poor nages. If everyone stopped that habit and actually attacked and then took a proper fall it would diminish the stigma.
@Leushenko If you don't do the safe responses you end up pretty sore at best, and potentially hospitalized with some of the techniques, particularly the joint-breaks.
@Leushenko In order to save the wrist, one has to actively leap over to catch up to the wrist rotation. It is pure skeletal mechanics. You learn fast what happens otherwise, because inevitably we all sustain some injury due to stupidheadedness during fluidity drills.
In reality, nobody does leaps. There wouldn't be a fancy landing, just someone's head smashing into a bus stop, or a cracking noise, followed by a yelp, as their elbow is torn out.
@scforza I train both judo and bjj... and i did once try to learn aikido... i visited 3 schools... the first 2 schools told me that i could not train with them if i offered resistance. the 3rd school, i wised up and didn't tell them i was going to resist. when i did, and the instructor could not do anything to me, and in fact looked really retarded, he asked me to leave and said that aikido was not for me. You should watch TOMIKI AIKIDO. full of resistance and no flip flopping wrist locks.
@aikidoisthebombyeah As for the resistance... I wouldn't stay with a school where they don't practice resistance, either. I stayed because I pushed a 2nd degree black belt the way I would push someone in a schoolyard, and ended up upside down in the air, scared as shit, and then there was a bruise on my ass. This was during the first year of training.
I also stayed because I saw some people's ability to near-break wrists almost instantaneously, and other interesting things.
@shihonage again... check out TOMIKI AIKIDO... of course if you are a master of aikido and run into a complete idiot... maybe you will break his wrist... against trained fighters... or experienced street fighters or bullies, that weigh more than you... that's a whole different story... where are the broken wrists in TOMIKI AIKIDO tournaments??? see what I'm getting at?
@aikidoisthebombyeah You don't see broken wrists in Tomiki for the same reason you don't see broken skulls in Judo. It's a stupid question to start with.
Now, if you want to fight against... um... trained fighters, which are a microscopic part of the population... you'd have to become one yourself. Regimen, athletics, concussions and all that.
As for street fighters... it depends on the encounter. I recommend you research the topic of self-defense, it's a lot larger than MMA or Aikido.
@shihonage who are you kidding man... to assume that you will only be attacked on the street by a person who does not know how to fight is a complete and total joke... and you are a complete moron to compare the strength of a human skull to a human wrist... not arguing the leverage concepts of aikido with you... for sure you can break a mutherfucker's wrist IF you get a hold of it... but it's much faster and more efficient to get the double leg takedown and an armbar from the mounted position...
@aikidoisthebombyeah My Judo analogy went completely over your head because you're as ignorant about Judo as you're about Aikido. You don't break arms in BJJ training, now do you? But its there!
Also, "someone who can fight" isn't "professional fighter". Stop with this nonsense already, 'kay.
Finally, as someone who's been attacked by multiples many times in high school, I can tell you your takedown+armbar is a foolish and dangerous proposition. Reality differs from the ring in a million ways.
@shihonage to assume that i don't know anything about judo is completely ignorant of you... you don't know how long i've been training in judo... and even if you did... it wouldn't fucking matter to you because your tongue is so far up aikido's asshole that you'd find any way to justify it as a form of efficient self defense. if you can't defend urself against 1 doubleleg takedown, how are you going to wrist lock a bunch of guys trying to take you down? U = FUCKING IDIOT...
@aikidoisthebombyeah Your focus on wristlocks in Aikido is another sign of how catastrophically ignorant you are. Wristlocks don't work without setup, and the setup itself is enough to defeat someone without the lock. Aikido's multiple attacker drills are very intense, and there's no wristlocks in them. There's no real equivalent for this in other arts. Also, Aikido is 90% derived from battlefield-tested arts of Japan (Daito Ryu), it takes into account weapons retention.
@shihonage no equivalent in other arts is bullshit... weapons retention... you wanna fucking learn real weapons retention... learn kali illustrisimo... where people actually put on pads and spar with full resistance... ever heard of the dog brothers? i wanna see you try to take away one of their sticks... i bet you get your head and face caved in...
@aikidoisthebombyeah There is footage of Aikido being applied against full resistance boxing and other attacks, and against larger people with grappling experience, but the likes of you decry it because "it doesn't look like the kata". Live Aikido doesn't look like the kata, nor is it supposed to, but there's no winning with the closed-minded and impatient. Also, I've probably spent more time dabbling in other arts than you did in Aikido. I am done wasting time on you and your misguided anger.
@shihonage u don't break arms in BJJ and Judo training, YES YOU ARE RIGHT... but the opportunity is there... Do you fucking realize how it got there??? By RESISTANCE TRAINING you fucking moron... by LIVE SPARRING while training... which is completely fucking non-existent in aikido... Totally worthless fucking training...
@aikidoisthebombyeah I'm capable of executing several key Aikido techniques with full resistance on a heavier opponent (30lbs on me) who is set on canceling them the moment I start to move. Now, because your dabbling in this art didn't satisfy your short attention span, because you're incapable or unwilling to go deeper and find the lessons in the partnered kata, and because you can't tell the ring from reality... it's not the art's fault. It's your fault. And don't froth at the mouth, it's ugly
@shihonage oh... because you are able to do so makes aikido worth learning??? HAHAHAHAHAHA... you give yourself way too much fucking credit... even the guys in tomiki aikido tournaments cannot pull it off... what makes you believe that ANYONE thinks you can??? you are full of shit... film urself doing it against a guy with full resistance... then we'll believe... plenty of footage of judoka, bjj, sambo, and wrestlers doing it... would be good if we had footage of aikido guys doing it as well...
In fact... in many ways, AIKIDO is not very harmonious 和气 at all... I mean, surely on the street, your attacker would not know to flipflop out of your wristlock to not get hurt... You guys are always saying that "we roll, blah blah, this and that, because if not, your wrists and arms would be broken... go to any aikido dojo and find out the hard way..." Man is that the proper form of retaliation for a guy who grabs your shirt? Break his arm, or break his wrist? That's fucking cruel and mean!
Did Ueshiba assume that all of his attackers would not know how to escape a simple wristlock? Did Ueshiba assume that all of his attackers would just be complete morons and attack mindlessly without offering any sort of resistance? Don't get me wrong guys... AIKIDO LOOKS AWESOME!!! But you guys don't even learn how to escape wristlocks... How can you guys consider AIKIDO as a self-defense martial art when your teacher doesn't even teach you how to escape a wrist lock??? I don't get it!!!
Why is it that in aikido, you don't ever learn escapes or counter attacks? Why are you not taught how to escape from a wristlock? Why are you not taught how to turn a wrist lock into a counterattack? You see it all the time in Judo, BJJ, wrestling, and other HIGHLY ADVANCED GRAPPLING styles. WHY is it that counter defense and counter attacks are completely overlooked in Aikido? Is it because Ueshiba did not know them? Ueshiba was a jiujitsu master... surely he knew them...
@aikidoisthebombyeah Your claims are simply not true. Many schools of Aikido train in counter-technique, and Aikido wristlocks aren't really. They're throws with a final ending, and could be done without the wrist entirely. Their outcome is determined a lot earlier than the flashy wrist bending on which your eyes focus.
As for shirt grabs... do you know what happens simultaneously with a shirt grab in real life? A punch to the face or worse. Aikido footwork allows for many degrees of damage.
@travismccullough1938 In many ways, the real problem of Aikido and aikido practitioners is that they BLINDLY ACCEPT aikido as realistic self-defense, when in fact, the way that aikido is taught and practiced has very little to do with self-defense. TO ALL CULT OF AIKIDO FOLLOWERS. You cannot expect to defend yourself on the street, if you do not defend yourself during training. Judo and BJJ guys spar with each other, and learn to tap. So can you. So why don't you?
I took aikido for 3 years and I have to say it is not an impressive looking martial art. Of all the techniques I learned, only the idea of getting off the centre line seemed useful in the least. I would seriously question the fate of an aikido master who faced a Gracie brother in a true competition. Most of the demo clips seem practiced and real situations rarely follow practiced scenarios. I would never use aikido alone for defence.
@travismccullough1938 I disagree. I've seen it in a real life on the street fight and it worked just fine. The aggressor was dispatched with minimal effort and no permanent damage aside from his pride.
@travismccullough1938 I disagree. I've seen it in a real life on the street fight and it worked just fine. The aggressor was dispatched with minimal effort and no permanent damage aside from his pride.
@mrswellrider what if you don't resist with brute force... but rather... flow into the proper defense against that wristlock or shoulder lock or armlock? are you even allowed to believe that there is a way to escape that wristlock or shoulder lock or armlock? if you are allowed to believe it, has your teacher ever bothered to show you the proper way to escape? if he has showed you, are you even allowed to practice that technique with an opponent who is also resisting? know what i'm saying?
@mrswellrider do you know that with the proper training, you can escape virtually any joint lock using nothing but leverage, momentum and flow... not strength or power... but the only way to develop that kind of sensitivity is to practice that in a LIVE SETTING... if your opponents are always cooperating with you... or if you are always cooperating with your opponent, that is a DEAD PATTERN... it is not ALIVE and it is not going to build your ability to FLOW to the next technique when u need.
@mrswellrider the techinques and sensitivity you develop during LIVE SPARRING can only be developed against an opponent who is actively resisting you with TECHNIQUE and not SHEER STRENGTH. when bjj players and judoka spar, they are not using strength against each other... they are using technique and leverage APPLIED IN A LIVE SETTING to resist, against another SKILLED PRACTITIONER and not a mindless idiot.
@mrswellrider nobody is talking about forceful resistance... in judo and bjj, we are taught how to escape armbars wristlocks etc... but we dont escape using force... we don't resist using force... we resist with more flow... 2 judoka are not using force to resist... they are using technique to resist... have you ever been taught an escape from one of your wristlocks? do you even have wristlock escapes in aikido or is that considered "resistance" and forbidden? what about shoulder lock escapes?
Anybody who has practiced Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, or any othe rmartial art, and the try on Aikido, he inmediatly understands that u cannot oppouse during practice and play along with the flow.
i thought the whole point of real flow was to learn to flow against a guy giving you resistance... like in judo and jiu-jitsu... flowing against a cooperative attacker is not real flow...
why is it that in judo and jiu-jitsu, the practitioners can practice randori and give each other full resistance and still have the option to tap out when someone is about to get hurt... and in aikido, randori is not allowed... i mean true randori where both practitioners are trying to catch each with submission... why is it that the training partners must cooperate? How can you learn anything in a LIVE environment when you are offered no resistance at all from training partners?
@aikidoisthebombyeah You are somewhat right about real flow. Nobody has ever told me resistance is not allowed but aikido should also be practiced in an environment of helping each other learn. I don't allow ineffective techniques to work on me (that's a disservice to the beginner) but forcefully resisting a technique is dangerous. With higher level aikidoka, the more you resist, the more pain you will feel. If you are relaxed (neither resisting nor flopping), the technique will work or won't.
@aikidoisthebombyeah I just wanted to say that from my experience, your comments make a tremendous amount of sense and are very practical. I totally agree that there is just another perspective that one can only obtain when placed in a scenario that is as close to real as is possible.
I know one Aikido-Dan with very similar style. It's lot of fun to train with him. It's just wierd, because his master wasn't from the Aikikai. Seems like Asai-sensei (the leader of Aikikai Germany) has quite a diferent style compared to Moriteru's
@KavafyAikido for those who do not practice like a simple dance, but I assure you that the reality falls the one you see has to do otherwise is likely to be really bad !!!!!
about the attacks on this video are not covered because it is an exhibition to highlight the techniques but also if they attacked the substance would not be changed !!!!! I hope you understood my bad english greetings from italy
@Kavafy Imagine your sword is in your belt, or you are drawing/ holding a sword. The reaching for the wrist/ body, which looks like they are just sticking their arms out, is the attacker attempting to control you. As you have a weapon, if they lose focus or control for a second they are dead. Thus, they "keep" coming at him. This can be applied to anyone trying to control/ grab something you have, but, really, trying to apply or think about it out of context is futile.
@Kavafy In this video it appears the attackers are just falling down.....they are....you have to go with the movement or you will break something.
If you watch carefully you can see many manipulations of the wrist that seem to turn the whole attacker's body over. If the attacker didn't fall or turn, their wrist would break.
It takes practice to be both an attacker and a defender.
@Kavafy Thats because you don't understand where the attacks come from and why they are done as such. If your looking for someone to start smashing someones face in like the shit you see in MMA on TV, don't even type the word "Aikido" into a youtube box.
@Kavafy "Don't even put the word "martial" next to your art"....I'm sorry did someone call this Marital Aikido? Is there a Martial Karate. Ohhh theres a mixed martial art, is that what you mean? Sorry buddy thats TV, in real life when you get thrown to the ground and pinned, no referee is gonna bail you out or tell your attacker to not use small joint maniupulation.
@CheetaReborn No, I'm pretty sure no-one called it "Marital" Aikido. If you're going to nit-pick, best make sure you don't make mistakes yourself. As for MMA, you've mentioned it three times and I hadn't mentioned once. Why did *you* choose to bring up MMA? Oh, and finally, if Aikido was "made to protect yourself in the days of the samurai" then it was made about 100 years too late. That's probably why people don't understand it.
@Kavafy You know what I'm not even gonna bother trying to explain this, with a come back like that I think you have more problems than differentiating between real and television.
@CheetaReborn My point is that I need proof before accepting that something works. I wouldn't take a medicine that hadn't been observed to be effective. And I won't study a martial art that hasn't been observed to be effective. Let's see Aikido working against opponents who are (i) competent and (ii) really trying. Then we'll have some evidence to work on. Until then, isn't it just blind faith that Aikido is effective?
@Kavafy That would be a pretty good reason except for one thing...Your looking for your proof from internet videos and arguements from a random person who could be 7,000 miles away for all you know. I think someone who is actaully intent on considering a martial art would persue proof in a physical enviroment and from certified experts. Honestly, regardless of what I ever could of said to you, I don't believe you ever had intent of trying Aikido.
@Kavafy This is getting old so I'm going to be plain and simple about this. The founder made it for what he needed. Thats the basic concept of every martial art in existence. It was made for what it was needed for. I'm done arguing about it.
@Kavafy Again, if you honestly wanted to know that and cared about the answer, I don't think you'd look for your answer from youtube. But i can tell you that modern day japaneese police are trained in it.
@CheetaReborn Going and trying out a martial art would be a good idea, except for the fact that there are dozens of them. You can't possibly try them all. So looking at video footage seems like a sensible first step. And if you can't point to any examples of what I asked for, despite your apparent affiction for Aikido, then I must conclude that that's because there *aren't any examples*.
@Kavafy That is fair enough but if you want to see some competitive fighter attack an Aikido black belt and watch them get out of the situation, you'll be watching steven seagal movies. The first thing any intelligent aikido instructor would say is "You never use this unless you have no other option". A lot of it is not a modern art, there is no getting around that, but that is not to say none of it is modern.
@CheetaReborn Truth of the matter is, anyone who has the time money and energy to be sitting on a computer all day will never *NEED* a martial art to protect themself especially will so many concealed guns on the street. Finding proof that any martial art works is about doing it. Aikido is recognized by how soft it can be. People start practicing before they are 20 and can continue until they are 80. In judo or jiu jutsu, 5-10 yrs of it, you'll be to banged up to continue.
@Kavafy Anyways, we're pretty much spamming this video with our arguement. Truth be told I don't care what you do in the future and I'm sure you don't care what I do. The best example I can give you is the fact its taught to modern day police forces and various nationalities of soldiers due to how much control you can have over someone with joint manipulation. You can take and or leave what you want from that.
@darkanov This man can do this in à fight hes damn good. If you would Hit him He can do this! You don't Fly like them but if you don't Fly your Hand Breaks
I don't like exhibitions, they are son unrealistic. Not in his wildest dreams could this guy do this in a real fight against these very same men or others.
@drkarnov It's a show of technique and fluidity, not as much reality or a REAL world environment. In a real world environment the opponent would just have a broken wrist, not too often will they fly around; only if they have momentum; and Judo proves that it's possible to use momentum to throw people in the air.
@GokiGandalf I 100% Agree! The trouble is there are too many ignorant opinionated people out there & the comments will keep coming. I have trained in Wado Ryu, Ju-Jitsu, Wing Chun & Aikido. I believe Aikido has some important core elements that can only help to further enhance the others. There is so many important things that can be taken from all the Martial Arts. To me its about finding out what works for the individual.
@Weston1968 I agree with you 100%. After having been a student of twelve arts and being raised to instructor of three of them i have only begun to touch on aikido and it does enhance all arts by an incredible degree.I have studied chinese,okinawan,japanese,thai,philipino,indonesian and western grappling/striking arts and in 35 years of discovery i have found the balance is in aikido.
I train and love Aikido. However, I have trained in shorinji kempo, wing chun, and kali and read about many other arts over the last 18 years. What I don't get and it bothers me is the nepotism found in Aikido. Can somebody explain? Why does the son and grandson automatically assume the position of doshu in Aikido? I think the best Aikidoist should gain such a title not be entitled to it because his last name is Ueshiba.
@Tarc5150 it's not just aikido, it's a japanese tradition. Doshu just means 'keepr of the way' and it's just a belief that somebody in the family would understand the art better than some other student. And lets be honest, both Kisshomaru and Moriteru probably started aikido at a young age, both hand the benefit of being under the eye of the founder, both were aldready 9th dans before the death of there father's, both studied aikido DAILY. who better?
I don't know who is better and I mean no disrespect. I'm just asking a question. I asked the same question at my school since I wrote this and the answer I received was the same as yours it's a Japanese tradition, nothing more and doesn't mean he's the best at Aikido. Makes sense.
As for who's better, I couldn't say. I do think Pilli Luna Sensei at Orange County Aikikai and Walter Muryasz at Torrey Pines Aikikai are pretty impresive.
I was in a 3rd kyu ranking when i involved in a car accident few years ago.That guy walked out swearing at me & point a finger right up my face.I used only 2 techniques, that was iriminage & tenchinage.Few of the bystanders stop the fight when i was in the middle of doing tenchinage to him.He got bruises & cut on his face(i do not know how & when he got that), it happens to fast but i'm sure he didn't even touch me!Aikido really works, believe me!I'm going to 2nd dan this year.
I have never practised aikido formally. But my brother does and taught me a technique for blocking a knife attack. Long ago, a mugger tried to rob me with a knife and I effectively disarmed him. He got his wrist broken, and I didn't try too hard. For those who say that aikido doesn't work, I am sure you should try it first, and then elaborate an opinion.
@MrSputnik1234 I agree. I've also never trained in Aikido but a friend of mine has. He showed me a few moves. He asked me to punch him in the stomach which I did timidly, I didn't want to hurt him! He told me to do it again, as hard as I could. I agreed. The whole world turned upside down and in a second I was on the ground with my arm in a painful and completely immobilising arm lock. It's difficult to understand but it does work regardless of whether or not the other person knows what to do.
I have never practised aikido formally. But my brother does and taught me a technique for blocking a knife attack. Long ago, a mugger tried to rob me with a knife and I effectively disarmed him. He got his wrist broken, and I didn't even try too hard. For those who say that aikido doesn't work, I am sure you should try it first, and then elaborate an opinion.
@syimang If you were blind and deaf, would you still be upset by some random guy swearing at you and pointing his finger at your face? He wasn't taling to you, he was talking to your ego. And your ego attacked him. Not you. How could you? You weren't even there.
Aikido is a martial art of self defense.What u learn in dojo is a variations of this art.U might not use everthing that u learned on the street.Few of this basic techniques r very useful but to master & understand it u need to learn variations of techniques(with patience) in this art & it takes 4-5 years to really used it on the street when it is needed.Whatever negative comments about it, i'm sure aikidoka will learn these:1)caution 2)distance 3)reflex 4)speed 5) stability & 6)timing.
@FearThisChannel Distance doesn't mean far. In fact Aikido is more usable if the opponent is nearer(jiujitsu & judo r from the same roots).What i meant is we 'understand' the distance in between..by understands it, we should reflex. That is when timing comes in..
Sensei Moriteru awesome form great to see such precision. for all the nay sayers Aiki done like this is Art and the Sensei here is a Meastro.I hope one day you can see this for what it is and stop comparing it to MMA and other aggressive forms
i also like the styles where the sensei doesn't tell the uke which way to attack. I've seen some sensei that have realistic styles. but they're hard to find.
the attack is mostly for the over head sword attack or the grab during the battle. that's my opinion. some senseis have styles that i like better. no ones going to grab you with all there might? the style i like are the one's where the get grabbed anywhere on the toro. that's real.
Aikido evolved from the Samurai way of the sword,,,, Daito Ryu Aiki jujitsu then to Aikido and the way you practice it is just like holding a sword. Bokken and Jo practice are essentials in Aikido practice as well as Iaido. Extending and developing your center is one of the most important thing in Aikido. You can call it Japanese dance or any name because it looks so graceful.
Aikistock , if u practice aikido from the point of view you just said , YOU ARE STUPID ! If Ueshiba who created aikido(not for u morrons to get proud with it ) said that every person should practice aikido in his home(no matter age and sex) = he reffers to it as spiritual practice or\and physical exercise , U come now and say DIfferent ??????? Its like going to Pete Sampras or Federer and tell them that you BELIVE that they are not playing tennis , BUT golf or cricket !
Yeah but you have to understand the context to Ueshiba's statement. There are different expressions of Aikido, some are very martial some are the opposite. Which form you practice depends on your circumstances. The techniques are not Aikido what the techniques teach is Aikido so how you practice is irrelevent provided you gain an understanding of Aikido. In fact, there are no techniques in Aikido.
@Nosferatum1066 Wow, what a good comparisant. Congratulations on not sounding stupid at all. Your world must be so simple. Must be wonderful living there.
Salishaw, I guess it's akin to studying archery; it's an artifact from a different age but it's still interesting and cool. At any rate, as has been stated below, the physical movements of this art really amount to an exquisitely elegant means of pursuing a certain kind of spiritual experience.
Aikido is also concerned with developing "ki" energy, which means establishing a link between our conscious minds and some processes of the body which are normally totally unconscious.
Now, I can agree to philosophical, mediphysics idea. That much is true to any form of dance like Tai Chi - Aikido spiritual movements. So that much is very true about Aikido.
You have no clue about me. Taking personal jabs only reflects the over drawn reactionary behavior of yourself. Let's be mature and adult minded about our responses here. Flabby simple mentality is mere waste. I don't have to accept your philosophical understandings of an art.
I've traveled all over the world from United Kingdom, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Spain, France and Italy. I speak two languages fluently(American Cowboys only speak English). I have been in marital arts for over 15 years. With a diverse repertoire of Burmese boxing, Karate, Brazilian Jiujitsu and a little Aikido.
Most Aikido today is for spiritual dance like movements similar to Tai Chi and that's true. Aikido is a philosophical, understand yourself and become peaceful with the world movement. It's more about spiritual awakening and less about physical encounters. So it's not incorrect to say Aikido like dancing. Nothing wrong with that.
Practicing Aiklido since 8 years 6 hours on daily bases, 6 days a week and lived for one year at my sensei. You are not right in your statements here. Just take it how it is, study it and come back after 5 years when youhave the experiences and you know what Aikido is. And my congrats, I am speaking 4 languages. I also practiced Karate for a long time and had some experiences agains other arts. You will never know if you stay on this level. Greetings,
Aikidoist spend more time defending the legitimacy of Aikido as a martial art because of comments often perceived as attacks. In all my travels around the world, Aikidoist have the biggest perception problem. Very rarely due you find Jiujutsu, Karate, Boxing, not even Tai Chi martial artist, exhaust as much time defending their art. Youtube is full of debates and arguments regarding the legitimacy of Aikido as realistic form of self defense.
Again, Aikido is what a person wants it to be. Donovan Waite, said it best. Aikido can be a spiritual religious salvation or a viable means of self defense. So it's OK to have Aikido dancing.
I respectfully disagree. Saying aikido may look like dancing...ok. But that is only because there aresimilarities: working with rythm and lfuidity for example. But the premis of aikido is completely different then that of dance. I practice aikido from a martial pesrpective. People that see aikido as dance in my opinion, only see half of aikido (or even less).
@aikistok The truth of the matter is, it should resemble a dance. Its about blending with your attacker and moving in harmony. it looks like a dance because of the experience level. You get thrown full speed without proper training, its not gonna feel like anything except a few moments of confusion and then pain when you smack the ground.
@CheetaReborn You talk about "the truth" a lot, as if it is for you to decide what is and what isn't the truth. I do not think the truth is that it "should resemble a dance." Saying that takes away the focus from the martial component and focusing on making it look like a dance. That is just silly. Dances should look like dances, aikido should be good. No matter what it resembles. AN I would advise not claiming to own the truth, it makes you sound sillier than you probably are.
looks fake
adrixxx 30 minutes ago
so smooth it actually looks like they dancing a waltz
XerosXIII 2 hours ago
COME AT ME BRO!
lockshore1 2 hours ago
So just to get u Aikido-people right, all u do is tossing each other around?
CwalkinZoom 3 hours ago
get a gun
OP04player 4 hours ago
I can do this with my little brother.
MKidYup 4 hours ago
9gag
Arnofkd 5 hours ago 18
so awesome
sikera182 13 hours ago
You know, I understand that he is probably very skilled and he could do that to anyone. But can anyone explain to me why every opponent try to hold his hand?
Nate3457 3 days ago
@Nate3457 (I'm fairly new, so my answer might not be 100%) but in Aikido, the defender positions himself in a way that is dangerous or confusing to the attacker (e.g. behind him, next to him, or somewhere he can't continue his attack). This makes the attacker vulnerable; he needs to hold your hand to defend himself, and to feel where you are so he can keep attacking. IF he lets go, his attack ends (but less spectacularly), which was the goal anyways. Hope this was helpful.
FUBARbyBOOZE 3 days ago
@FUBARbyBOOZE So by the way you're explaining, the master is just defending without intend of attacking, while the opponent is just trying to maintain an offensive position and not let go of it. Is that right? I was thinking it was just "for show", but if it's like that, I can understand the reason for going for the hand. Thanks.
Nate3457 2 days ago
@Nate3457 Yep! The master never attacks - but he always poses a threat. So if you let go of the hand, you will not be able to attack, AND you risk getting a foot up your ass.
FUBARbyBOOZE 1 day ago
Seven Segal's Aikido is quite aggressive and looks so cool, but I guess Master Ueshiba just doesnt want to hurt his students, and theres just such an aesthetic quality about how he does aikido
FredFredBurger53 1 week ago
I study aikido. I'm only 14 and already a green belt.it brought peace to my life.
PioloAskal2009 3 weeks ago 2
That's Bool-Shittttttt.............
mghguys 1 month ago
Part of the reason that people doubt Aikido is that a lot of people who practice it don't truly understand what it is. People learn techniques, which are great, they help us learn how our bodies move and how the geometry of Aikido works. But these are just stepping stones. True Aikido does not use techniques, for the idea of 'trying' to apply a technique means that you can be resisted. If you are truly harmonized with your attacker then you are in sync with them, and the technique forms itself.
Mordanis 1 month ago 3
Yes, this is the Aikido.
Bertold307 2 months ago
nice ,, great
mossub1elect1 4 months ago
This old guy throws people so good
Mmmathers4 4 months ago
I could be wrong but in my humble opinion Moriteru Uesiba techniques seem to be crisper than his dads.Not looking for a fight its just my observation.
groundpounder35 4 months ago
@groundpounder35 You're right. Not everybody can reach the same grance level, and obviously, O'sensei is unreachable. Although, in my case, I do prefer pre 1945 O'sensei's Aikido, which might sound less harmonious, but is more accorded to nowadays scenario.
yowyOw69 4 months ago
@yowyOw69 Yeah I agree, i prefer things when they called it Aikibudo. I have a teacher who said he wants to put the harm back in harmony. I agree, and I think you do to.
groundpounder35 4 months ago
domo arigatou gozaimachita! :)
ruteisabelmendes 4 months ago
my problem with these kinds of demonstrations is that the people who are attacking him aren't coming at him with anything.. theyre just running at him with their arms out. I would like to see a demonstration where aikido reacts to different martial arts. Like you would have 2 minutes of aikido defending against boxing, and then 2 minutes of aikido defending against karate, etc.
luchador1764 5 months ago
What people also tend to forget it is choreographed which makes it look better than what it really is.... I wonder how he would deal with real attacks and not the silly hand waving wrist grabbing hugging stuff you see, and how he would deal with people actually resisting him!? I bet it would look totally different!!!!! But we'll never know cause they wont, saying its not in harmony with the spirit or some such guff..... This is prance and dance...... nothing else..... As for the martial?
towag 5 months ago
wooww!! look how they did the breakfall ukemi and the speed of the movementes, awesomee!!!!
Ramirozr1 5 months ago
FABULOUS! perfect! Suwari, preeeeety to see
master moriteru!
diegoverzola 5 months ago
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This is embarrassing. This is a dance show. The Grandmaster of the sport- I take it with the name "Ueshiba" he's related to the sport 's creator, and he still needs opponents to throw themselves around. Forgeg this bullshit about "if they didn't they'd suffer"- they are OFFERING UP THEIR ARMS. The grandmaster can't deal with a simple punch, and in my experience even simple aikidoka will admit they can't. This is a martial sport- not self defense.
NYCNECH 6 months ago
@NYCNECH do you actually practice Aikido?
orhideea95 6 months ago
@NYCNECH Understand that they are throwing themselves to avoid injury. They do a roll to avoid a broken wrist. And I assure you, Doshu Moriteru could very easily so all of these techniques from a punch; this is just a demonstration.
The0Keyboard0Kid 5 months ago
@NYCNECH I feel I need to elaborate more. These techniques could very easily be made to work and do damage. It is not in the interest to hurt your partner in Aikido. The uke in this demonstration are there to help, he doesn't not NEED them to throw themselves, but there is no sense in throwing them and causing harm.
The0Keyboard0Kid 5 months ago
@madsli your about half right. It's sort of a formal way of saying ouch! Im not a wrestling fan so I may be mistaken but it is a similar kind of thing to tapping out.
Rabbitsaretasty 6 months ago
amazing!!!!!!!!
superjo541 7 months ago in playlist Aikido
That clapping the floor is it a way of saying: "i recognize that you have deffeated me this round, and that you could easily break my arm in this state"?
madsli 7 months ago 2
When I watch this, it reminds me why I want to continue training in aikido :)
AngelLich 9 months ago
he's not following his ancestors, he's a commercial guy. i don't like to see him as the head of the aikikai.
BloodySmartie 9 months ago
It almost looks like they're dancing...
GettInGettOut 11 months ago
This is all very pretty, but it also looks to the untrained eye (me) like it could just as easily be active-compliance on the part of his opponents... some of them really look like they're leaping into the throws.
I was thinking of trying out Aikido prior to looking at this video. It's actually made me more doubtful rather than less...
Leushenko 11 months ago
@Leushenko Please realize that aikido is not just learning how to throw someone, but a big part is learning how to be thrown. It's called "ukemi" which translates to something like "the art of falling". So, yes... for many of the techniques, the uke (person receiving the technique) IS going with it because if they did not, they risk being injured by the person performing the technique (called the "nage" or "tori").
btocp 11 months ago 53
@btocp I got to sit in on an Aikijitsu-ka for his 3rd degree black belt test. Our top Aikido-ka asked if he could resist a little bit, you know, give the testee a difficult time, and sensei said that was fine. When he did resist, the jitsu guy hit him, half force, enough to stun our guy and complete his technique. No where in our training is there preparations for actually taking a hit. Always ready to fall, sure, but never thinking about actually getting hit. :)
jinsuihito 9 months ago
@jinsuihito Sounds like a huge gap in training, not a flaw with Aikido. I can't recall where, but I read that O-Sensei wouldn't even take a student if he/she wasn't already a black belt. Personally, I've studied striking martial arts, so I've been hit in training. I've been in real fights, so I've been hit. (And no, I didn't always win.) That said, sounds like the 'top" Aikidoka was taken by surprise when the testee used proper atemi; not to inflict pain as much as distract. Hope dude passed.
btocp 9 months ago
@btocp I got to sit in on an Aikijitsu-ka for his 3rd degree black belt test. Our top Aikido-ka asked if he could resist a little bit, you know, give the testee a difficult time, and sensei said that was fine. When he did resist, the jitsu guy hit him, half force, enough to stun our guy and complete his technique. No where in our training is there preparations for actually taking a hit. Always ready to fall, sure, but never thinking about actually getting hit. :)
jinsuihito 9 months ago
@jinsuihito As btocp already noticed, that sure sounds like something you might want to politely ask sensei about – about changing this aspect in your training. O'Sensei is often quoted as saying that Aikido is 90% Atemi (and Prof. Goldsbury has a point when he says that is completely wrong, Aikido is 100% Atemi, even if you don't see them). O'Sensei reportedly also said that there are three places for Atemi: before, during, and after a technique. Also check out George Ledyard on this topic.
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@btocp I got to sit in on an Aikijitsu-ka for his 3rd degree black belt test. Our top Aikido-ka asked if he could resist a little bit, you know, give the testee a difficult time, and sensei said that was fine. When he did resist, the jitsu guy hit him, half force, enough to stun our guy and complete his technique. No where in our training is there preparations for actually taking a hit. Always ready to fall, sure, but never thinking about actually getting hit. :)
jinsuihito 9 months ago
@btocp of course. The critique here is mainly that aikido ukemi is often largely over-dramatized.
chucknorrispranks 3 months ago
@btocp The aikido isn't only how to throw someone and it isnt only how to be trhown... Thats a too poor definition. The aikido is the way to move what cant be moved with your "jara" force. Is the way to use your body without using that at all...
UnrealLotus 3 months ago
@btocp person doing the technique is called shite or tori, nage is throw, as in nagewaza, being throwing techniques. Ukemi is to receive something, you can excersize ukemi from a punch.
chapsparanormal 1 month ago
@btocp I think the problem people see when they watch any aiki art aikido especially is the fact that uke's are throwing themselves. They aren't taking a technique and then taking a proper fall they are just chucking themselves on contact out of reaction. That's actually horrible ukemi not good ukemi. Looks great trains bad habits and poor nages. If everyone stopped that habit and actually attacked and then took a proper fall it would diminish the stigma.
billgober2 2 weeks ago
@btocp I'm agree With ukemi you can stand up again without damage and reattack... If you prefer take a fist in your face... it's not a good choice...
Uke learn to preserve him... It's not just dance...
Fullmetal1609 1 week ago
@Leushenko If you don't do the safe responses you end up pretty sore at best, and potentially hospitalized with some of the techniques, particularly the joint-breaks.
FireRupee 10 months ago 2
@Leushenko In order to save the wrist, one has to actively leap over to catch up to the wrist rotation. It is pure skeletal mechanics. You learn fast what happens otherwise, because inevitably we all sustain some injury due to stupidheadedness during fluidity drills.
In reality, nobody does leaps. There wouldn't be a fancy landing, just someone's head smashing into a bus stop, or a cracking noise, followed by a yelp, as their elbow is torn out.
shihonage 3 months ago
@scforza I train both judo and bjj... and i did once try to learn aikido... i visited 3 schools... the first 2 schools told me that i could not train with them if i offered resistance. the 3rd school, i wised up and didn't tell them i was going to resist. when i did, and the instructor could not do anything to me, and in fact looked really retarded, he asked me to leave and said that aikido was not for me. You should watch TOMIKI AIKIDO. full of resistance and no flip flopping wrist locks.
aikidoisthebombyeah 1 year ago
@aikidoisthebombyeah As for the resistance... I wouldn't stay with a school where they don't practice resistance, either. I stayed because I pushed a 2nd degree black belt the way I would push someone in a schoolyard, and ended up upside down in the air, scared as shit, and then there was a bruise on my ass. This was during the first year of training.
I also stayed because I saw some people's ability to near-break wrists almost instantaneously, and other interesting things.
shihonage 3 months ago
@shihonage again... check out TOMIKI AIKIDO... of course if you are a master of aikido and run into a complete idiot... maybe you will break his wrist... against trained fighters... or experienced street fighters or bullies, that weigh more than you... that's a whole different story... where are the broken wrists in TOMIKI AIKIDO tournaments??? see what I'm getting at?
aikidoisthebombyeah 3 months ago
@aikidoisthebombyeah You don't see broken wrists in Tomiki for the same reason you don't see broken skulls in Judo. It's a stupid question to start with.
Now, if you want to fight against... um... trained fighters, which are a microscopic part of the population... you'd have to become one yourself. Regimen, athletics, concussions and all that.
As for street fighters... it depends on the encounter. I recommend you research the topic of self-defense, it's a lot larger than MMA or Aikido.
shihonage 3 months ago
@shihonage who are you kidding man... to assume that you will only be attacked on the street by a person who does not know how to fight is a complete and total joke... and you are a complete moron to compare the strength of a human skull to a human wrist... not arguing the leverage concepts of aikido with you... for sure you can break a mutherfucker's wrist IF you get a hold of it... but it's much faster and more efficient to get the double leg takedown and an armbar from the mounted position...
aikidoisthebombyeah 3 months ago
@aikidoisthebombyeah My Judo analogy went completely over your head because you're as ignorant about Judo as you're about Aikido. You don't break arms in BJJ training, now do you? But its there!
Also, "someone who can fight" isn't "professional fighter". Stop with this nonsense already, 'kay.
Finally, as someone who's been attacked by multiples many times in high school, I can tell you your takedown+armbar is a foolish and dangerous proposition. Reality differs from the ring in a million ways.
shihonage 3 months ago
@shihonage to assume that i don't know anything about judo is completely ignorant of you... you don't know how long i've been training in judo... and even if you did... it wouldn't fucking matter to you because your tongue is so far up aikido's asshole that you'd find any way to justify it as a form of efficient self defense. if you can't defend urself against 1 doubleleg takedown, how are you going to wrist lock a bunch of guys trying to take you down? U = FUCKING IDIOT...
aikidoisthebombyeah 3 months ago
@aikidoisthebombyeah Your focus on wristlocks in Aikido is another sign of how catastrophically ignorant you are. Wristlocks don't work without setup, and the setup itself is enough to defeat someone without the lock. Aikido's multiple attacker drills are very intense, and there's no wristlocks in them. There's no real equivalent for this in other arts. Also, Aikido is 90% derived from battlefield-tested arts of Japan (Daito Ryu), it takes into account weapons retention.
Learn, then open mouth.
shihonage 3 months ago
@shihonage no equivalent in other arts is bullshit... weapons retention... you wanna fucking learn real weapons retention... learn kali illustrisimo... where people actually put on pads and spar with full resistance... ever heard of the dog brothers? i wanna see you try to take away one of their sticks... i bet you get your head and face caved in...
aikidoisthebombyeah 3 months ago
@aikidoisthebombyeah There is footage of Aikido being applied against full resistance boxing and other attacks, and against larger people with grappling experience, but the likes of you decry it because "it doesn't look like the kata". Live Aikido doesn't look like the kata, nor is it supposed to, but there's no winning with the closed-minded and impatient. Also, I've probably spent more time dabbling in other arts than you did in Aikido. I am done wasting time on you and your misguided anger.
shihonage 3 months ago
@shihonage bullshit... WHERE???
aikidoisthebombyeah 3 months ago
@shihonage u don't break arms in BJJ and Judo training, YES YOU ARE RIGHT... but the opportunity is there... Do you fucking realize how it got there??? By RESISTANCE TRAINING you fucking moron... by LIVE SPARRING while training... which is completely fucking non-existent in aikido... Totally worthless fucking training...
aikidoisthebombyeah 3 months ago
@aikidoisthebombyeah I'm capable of executing several key Aikido techniques with full resistance on a heavier opponent (30lbs on me) who is set on canceling them the moment I start to move. Now, because your dabbling in this art didn't satisfy your short attention span, because you're incapable or unwilling to go deeper and find the lessons in the partnered kata, and because you can't tell the ring from reality... it's not the art's fault. It's your fault. And don't froth at the mouth, it's ugly
shihonage 3 months ago
@shihonage oh... because you are able to do so makes aikido worth learning??? HAHAHAHAHAHA... you give yourself way too much fucking credit... even the guys in tomiki aikido tournaments cannot pull it off... what makes you believe that ANYONE thinks you can??? you are full of shit... film urself doing it against a guy with full resistance... then we'll believe... plenty of footage of judoka, bjj, sambo, and wrestlers doing it... would be good if we had footage of aikido guys doing it as well...
aikidoisthebombyeah 3 months ago
In fact... in many ways, AIKIDO is not very harmonious 和气 at all... I mean, surely on the street, your attacker would not know to flipflop out of your wristlock to not get hurt... You guys are always saying that "we roll, blah blah, this and that, because if not, your wrists and arms would be broken... go to any aikido dojo and find out the hard way..." Man is that the proper form of retaliation for a guy who grabs your shirt? Break his arm, or break his wrist? That's fucking cruel and mean!
aikidoisthebombyeah 1 year ago
Did Ueshiba assume that all of his attackers would not know how to escape a simple wristlock? Did Ueshiba assume that all of his attackers would just be complete morons and attack mindlessly without offering any sort of resistance? Don't get me wrong guys... AIKIDO LOOKS AWESOME!!! But you guys don't even learn how to escape wristlocks... How can you guys consider AIKIDO as a self-defense martial art when your teacher doesn't even teach you how to escape a wrist lock??? I don't get it!!!
aikidoisthebombyeah 1 year ago
Why is it that in aikido, you don't ever learn escapes or counter attacks? Why are you not taught how to escape from a wristlock? Why are you not taught how to turn a wrist lock into a counterattack? You see it all the time in Judo, BJJ, wrestling, and other HIGHLY ADVANCED GRAPPLING styles. WHY is it that counter defense and counter attacks are completely overlooked in Aikido? Is it because Ueshiba did not know them? Ueshiba was a jiujitsu master... surely he knew them...
aikidoisthebombyeah 1 year ago
@aikidoisthebombyeah Your claims are simply not true. Many schools of Aikido train in counter-technique, and Aikido wristlocks aren't really. They're throws with a final ending, and could be done without the wrist entirely. Their outcome is determined a lot earlier than the flashy wrist bending on which your eyes focus.
As for shirt grabs... do you know what happens simultaneously with a shirt grab in real life? A punch to the face or worse. Aikido footwork allows for many degrees of damage.
shihonage 3 months ago
@travismccullough1938 In many ways, the real problem of Aikido and aikido practitioners is that they BLINDLY ACCEPT aikido as realistic self-defense, when in fact, the way that aikido is taught and practiced has very little to do with self-defense. TO ALL CULT OF AIKIDO FOLLOWERS. You cannot expect to defend yourself on the street, if you do not defend yourself during training. Judo and BJJ guys spar with each other, and learn to tap. So can you. So why don't you?
aikidoisthebombyeah 1 year ago
I took aikido for 3 years and I have to say it is not an impressive looking martial art. Of all the techniques I learned, only the idea of getting off the centre line seemed useful in the least. I would seriously question the fate of an aikido master who faced a Gracie brother in a true competition. Most of the demo clips seem practiced and real situations rarely follow practiced scenarios. I would never use aikido alone for defence.
travismccullough1938 1 year ago
@travismccullough1938 U musta had some crap instructors bro...I was one of the luckier ones who copped a good Sensei..& awesome classm8s as well.
MischiefCON 1 year ago
@travismccullough1938 I disagree. I've seen it in a real life on the street fight and it worked just fine. The aggressor was dispatched with minimal effort and no permanent damage aside from his pride.
Sb0h 1 year ago
@travismccullough1938 I disagree. I've seen it in a real life on the street fight and it worked just fine. The aggressor was dispatched with minimal effort and no permanent damage aside from his pride.
Sb0h 1 year ago
@mrswellrider what if you don't resist with brute force... but rather... flow into the proper defense against that wristlock or shoulder lock or armlock? are you even allowed to believe that there is a way to escape that wristlock or shoulder lock or armlock? if you are allowed to believe it, has your teacher ever bothered to show you the proper way to escape? if he has showed you, are you even allowed to practice that technique with an opponent who is also resisting? know what i'm saying?
aikidoisthebombyeah 1 year ago
@mrswellrider do you know that with the proper training, you can escape virtually any joint lock using nothing but leverage, momentum and flow... not strength or power... but the only way to develop that kind of sensitivity is to practice that in a LIVE SETTING... if your opponents are always cooperating with you... or if you are always cooperating with your opponent, that is a DEAD PATTERN... it is not ALIVE and it is not going to build your ability to FLOW to the next technique when u need.
aikidoisthebombyeah 1 year ago
@mrswellrider the techinques and sensitivity you develop during LIVE SPARRING can only be developed against an opponent who is actively resisting you with TECHNIQUE and not SHEER STRENGTH. when bjj players and judoka spar, they are not using strength against each other... they are using technique and leverage APPLIED IN A LIVE SETTING to resist, against another SKILLED PRACTITIONER and not a mindless idiot.
aikidoisthebombyeah 1 year ago
@mrswellrider nobody is talking about forceful resistance... in judo and bjj, we are taught how to escape armbars wristlocks etc... but we dont escape using force... we don't resist using force... we resist with more flow... 2 judoka are not using force to resist... they are using technique to resist... have you ever been taught an escape from one of your wristlocks? do you even have wristlock escapes in aikido or is that considered "resistance" and forbidden? what about shoulder lock escapes?
aikidoisthebombyeah 1 year ago
you are absolutely right
ragazzaromanista982 1 year ago
Anybody who has practiced Judo, Jiu-Jitsu, or any othe rmartial art, and the try on Aikido, he inmediatly understands that u cannot oppouse during practice and play along with the flow.
scforza 1 year ago
i thought the whole point of real flow was to learn to flow against a guy giving you resistance... like in judo and jiu-jitsu... flowing against a cooperative attacker is not real flow...
aikidoisthebombyeah 1 year ago
@cheetareborn there won't be a referee that tells your training partner not to offer any resistance either...
aikidoisthebombyeah 1 year ago
why is it that in judo and jiu-jitsu, the practitioners can practice randori and give each other full resistance and still have the option to tap out when someone is about to get hurt... and in aikido, randori is not allowed... i mean true randori where both practitioners are trying to catch each with submission... why is it that the training partners must cooperate? How can you learn anything in a LIVE environment when you are offered no resistance at all from training partners?
aikidoisthebombyeah 1 year ago
@aikidoisthebombyeah You are somewhat right about real flow. Nobody has ever told me resistance is not allowed but aikido should also be practiced in an environment of helping each other learn. I don't allow ineffective techniques to work on me (that's a disservice to the beginner) but forcefully resisting a technique is dangerous. With higher level aikidoka, the more you resist, the more pain you will feel. If you are relaxed (neither resisting nor flopping), the technique will work or won't.
MrSwellRider 1 year ago
@aikidoisthebombyeah I just wanted to say that from my experience, your comments make a tremendous amount of sense and are very practical. I totally agree that there is just another perspective that one can only obtain when placed in a scenario that is as close to real as is possible.
travismccullough1938 1 year ago
As it comes to me, truly Ueshiba's heir skills level...
Co chodzi o mnie, prawdziwy poziom potomka Ueshiby...
BK201Pila 1 year ago
Meraviglioso
fiorenzov1959 1 year ago
I know one Aikido-Dan with very similar style. It's lot of fun to train with him. It's just wierd, because his master wasn't from the Aikikai. Seems like Asai-sensei (the leader of Aikikai Germany) has quite a diferent style compared to Moriteru's
RoberttheWise 1 year ago
Sorry but I can't see any real attacks here. Just a lot of people holding their arms out, ready to be thrown.
Kavafy 1 year ago
@KavafyAikido for those who do not practice like a simple dance, but I assure you that the reality falls the one you see has to do otherwise is likely to be really bad !!!!!
about the attacks on this video are not covered because it is an exhibition to highlight the techniques but also if they attacked the substance would not be changed !!!!! I hope you understood my bad english greetings from italy
romanofraciko88 1 year ago
@Kavafy Imagine your sword is in your belt, or you are drawing/ holding a sword. The reaching for the wrist/ body, which looks like they are just sticking their arms out, is the attacker attempting to control you. As you have a weapon, if they lose focus or control for a second they are dead. Thus, they "keep" coming at him. This can be applied to anyone trying to control/ grab something you have, but, really, trying to apply or think about it out of context is futile.
robertmrivers 1 year ago
@Kavafy In this video it appears the attackers are just falling down.....they are....you have to go with the movement or you will break something.
If you watch carefully you can see many manipulations of the wrist that seem to turn the whole attacker's body over. If the attacker didn't fall or turn, their wrist would break.
It takes practice to be both an attacker and a defender.
securest 1 year ago
@Kavafy Thats because you don't understand where the attacks come from and why they are done as such. If your looking for someone to start smashing someones face in like the shit you see in MMA on TV, don't even type the word "Aikido" into a youtube box.
CheetaReborn 1 year ago
@CheetaReborn And if you can't deal with a good striker trying to smash you in the face, don't even put the word "martial" next to your art.
Kavafy 1 year ago
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CheetaReborn 1 year ago
@Kavafy "Don't even put the word "martial" next to your art"....I'm sorry did someone call this Marital Aikido? Is there a Martial Karate. Ohhh theres a mixed martial art, is that what you mean? Sorry buddy thats TV, in real life when you get thrown to the ground and pinned, no referee is gonna bail you out or tell your attacker to not use small joint maniupulation.
CheetaReborn 1 year ago
@CheetaReborn No, I'm pretty sure no-one called it "Marital" Aikido. If you're going to nit-pick, best make sure you don't make mistakes yourself. As for MMA, you've mentioned it three times and I hadn't mentioned once. Why did *you* choose to bring up MMA? Oh, and finally, if Aikido was "made to protect yourself in the days of the samurai" then it was made about 100 years too late. That's probably why people don't understand it.
Kavafy 1 year ago
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CheetaReborn 1 year ago
@Kavafy You know what I'm not even gonna bother trying to explain this, with a come back like that I think you have more problems than differentiating between real and television.
CheetaReborn 1 year ago
@CheetaReborn I understand. If I'd made a basic factual error like that, I'd be embarrassed too.
Kavafy 1 year ago
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CheetaReborn 1 year ago
@CheetaReborn My point is that I need proof before accepting that something works. I wouldn't take a medicine that hadn't been observed to be effective. And I won't study a martial art that hasn't been observed to be effective. Let's see Aikido working against opponents who are (i) competent and (ii) really trying. Then we'll have some evidence to work on. Until then, isn't it just blind faith that Aikido is effective?
Kavafy 1 year ago
@Kavafy That would be a pretty good reason except for one thing...Your looking for your proof from internet videos and arguements from a random person who could be 7,000 miles away for all you know. I think someone who is actaully intent on considering a martial art would persue proof in a physical enviroment and from certified experts. Honestly, regardless of what I ever could of said to you, I don't believe you ever had intent of trying Aikido.
CheetaReborn 1 year ago
@Kavafy This is getting old so I'm going to be plain and simple about this. The founder made it for what he needed. Thats the basic concept of every martial art in existence. It was made for what it was needed for. I'm done arguing about it.
CheetaReborn 1 year ago
@CheetaReborn "He made it for what he needed." Fine, I accept that. But how do we know it's effective? Isn't that a reasonable question?
Kavafy 1 year ago
@Kavafy Again, if you honestly wanted to know that and cared about the answer, I don't think you'd look for your answer from youtube. But i can tell you that modern day japaneese police are trained in it.
CheetaReborn 1 year ago
@CheetaReborn Going and trying out a martial art would be a good idea, except for the fact that there are dozens of them. You can't possibly try them all. So looking at video footage seems like a sensible first step. And if you can't point to any examples of what I asked for, despite your apparent affiction for Aikido, then I must conclude that that's because there *aren't any examples*.
Kavafy 1 year ago
@Kavafy That is fair enough but if you want to see some competitive fighter attack an Aikido black belt and watch them get out of the situation, you'll be watching steven seagal movies. The first thing any intelligent aikido instructor would say is "You never use this unless you have no other option". A lot of it is not a modern art, there is no getting around that, but that is not to say none of it is modern.
CheetaReborn 1 year ago
@CheetaReborn Truth of the matter is, anyone who has the time money and energy to be sitting on a computer all day will never *NEED* a martial art to protect themself especially will so many concealed guns on the street. Finding proof that any martial art works is about doing it. Aikido is recognized by how soft it can be. People start practicing before they are 20 and can continue until they are 80. In judo or jiu jutsu, 5-10 yrs of it, you'll be to banged up to continue.
CheetaReborn 1 year ago
@Kavafy Anyways, we're pretty much spamming this video with our arguement. Truth be told I don't care what you do in the future and I'm sure you don't care what I do. The best example I can give you is the fact its taught to modern day police forces and various nationalities of soldiers due to how much control you can have over someone with joint manipulation. You can take and or leave what you want from that.
CheetaReborn 1 year ago
i would really like to "fight" against an aikido master.
i am no fighter, but i would like to know how easy they can get me down, it looks so easy when aikido masters defend themselves.
xjax10 1 year ago
@xjax10 haha, yeah i'm sure you would Love fighting him... lol
horseman9976 1 year ago
@jertzybolofsky
I hear excactly what you are saying...Infact it is an insult to even compare this to mma.
O Sensei did not study,Reserve and share his creation with us today to turn it into
something to cause damage.
Thankyou Artisme.
Jahleim72Amaya 1 year ago
@darkanov This man can do this in à fight hes damn good. If you would Hit him He can do this! You don't Fly like them but if you don't Fly your Hand Breaks
TheSprayartist 1 year ago
@jertzbolofsky: I totally agree :D
Very fascinating stuff, very subtle, fluidly and I guess also effective.
In this video it is controlled force, when he was really attacked, he would not be that kind to others.
From my PWC (Practical Wing Chun) view, great respect for people who practice this wonderful art.
Kind kungfu regards from the Netherlands
maekelon8 1 year ago
I don't like exhibitions, they are son unrealistic. Not in his wildest dreams could this guy do this in a real fight against these very same men or others.
Real fights are never so beautiful.
drkarnov 1 year ago
@drkarnov It's a show of technique and fluidity, not as much reality or a REAL world environment. In a real world environment the opponent would just have a broken wrist, not too often will they fly around; only if they have momentum; and Judo proves that it's possible to use momentum to throw people in the air.
deguimerautube 1 year ago
that was beautiful! Thank you for sharing this so I may improve my technique by watching!
christallaurel 1 year ago
Amazing. What a great video.
watro1 1 year ago
PEOPLE WHO DON'T TRAIN AIKIDO CAN'T COMENT THIS VIDEO !!!
GokiGandalf 1 year ago 4
@GokiGandalf I 100% Agree! The trouble is there are too many ignorant opinionated people out there & the comments will keep coming. I have trained in Wado Ryu, Ju-Jitsu, Wing Chun & Aikido. I believe Aikido has some important core elements that can only help to further enhance the others. There is so many important things that can be taken from all the Martial Arts. To me its about finding out what works for the individual.
Weston1968 1 year ago 7
@Weston1968 I agree with you 100%. After having been a student of twelve arts and being raised to instructor of three of them i have only begun to touch on aikido and it does enhance all arts by an incredible degree.I have studied chinese,okinawan,japanese,thai,philipino,indonesian and western grappling/striking arts and in 35 years of discovery i have found the balance is in aikido.
MrFrogg46 4 months ago
Keep it in the family. Satanic New Age Budo Family.
blacksashman 1 year ago
I train and love Aikido. However, I have trained in shorinji kempo, wing chun, and kali and read about many other arts over the last 18 years. What I don't get and it bothers me is the nepotism found in Aikido. Can somebody explain? Why does the son and grandson automatically assume the position of doshu in Aikido? I think the best Aikidoist should gain such a title not be entitled to it because his last name is Ueshiba.
Tarc5150 1 year ago
@Tarc5150 it's not just aikido, it's a japanese tradition. Doshu just means 'keepr of the way' and it's just a belief that somebody in the family would understand the art better than some other student. And lets be honest, both Kisshomaru and Moriteru probably started aikido at a young age, both hand the benefit of being under the eye of the founder, both were aldready 9th dans before the death of there father's, both studied aikido DAILY. who better?
KurtCobain198666 1 year ago
@KurtCobain198666
I don't know who is better and I mean no disrespect. I'm just asking a question. I asked the same question at my school since I wrote this and the answer I received was the same as yours it's a Japanese tradition, nothing more and doesn't mean he's the best at Aikido. Makes sense.
As for who's better, I couldn't say. I do think Pilli Luna Sensei at Orange County Aikikai and Walter Muryasz at Torrey Pines Aikikai are pretty impresive.
Tarc5150 1 year ago
@Tarc5150 It's a company, and you keep the family at the head, regardless of whether or not they are the best. They perpetuate the brand.
wajwatkins1 1 year ago
Interesting.
Freya06 1 year ago
for those who want to see a fiercer aikido demo, type " aikido freestyle show at taiwan taipei"
chbedok 1 year ago
Moriteru is a mater like his father
TheSega2010 1 year ago
I was in a 3rd kyu ranking when i involved in a car accident few years ago.That guy walked out swearing at me & point a finger right up my face.I used only 2 techniques, that was iriminage & tenchinage.Few of the bystanders stop the fight when i was in the middle of doing tenchinage to him.He got bruises & cut on his face(i do not know how & when he got that), it happens to fast but i'm sure he didn't even touch me!Aikido really works, believe me!I'm going to 2nd dan this year.
syimang 1 year ago 3
wow.
hoangvytuan81 1 year ago
I have never practised aikido formally. But my brother does and taught me a technique for blocking a knife attack. Long ago, a mugger tried to rob me with a knife and I effectively disarmed him. He got his wrist broken, and I didn't try too hard. For those who say that aikido doesn't work, I am sure you should try it first, and then elaborate an opinion.
MrSputnik1234 8 months ago
@MrSputnik1234 I agree. I've also never trained in Aikido but a friend of mine has. He showed me a few moves. He asked me to punch him in the stomach which I did timidly, I didn't want to hurt him! He told me to do it again, as hard as I could. I agreed. The whole world turned upside down and in a second I was on the ground with my arm in a painful and completely immobilising arm lock. It's difficult to understand but it does work regardless of whether or not the other person knows what to do.
23sam23sam23 6 months ago 19
I have never practised aikido formally. But my brother does and taught me a technique for blocking a knife attack. Long ago, a mugger tried to rob me with a knife and I effectively disarmed him. He got his wrist broken, and I didn't even try too hard. For those who say that aikido doesn't work, I am sure you should try it first, and then elaborate an opinion.
MrSputnik1234 8 months ago
@syimang If you were blind and deaf, would you still be upset by some random guy swearing at you and pointing his finger at your face? He wasn't taling to you, he was talking to your ego. And your ego attacked him. Not you. How could you? You weren't even there.
Brunomaterna 7 months ago
Aikido is a martial art of self defense.What u learn in dojo is a variations of this art.U might not use everthing that u learned on the street.Few of this basic techniques r very useful but to master & understand it u need to learn variations of techniques(with patience) in this art & it takes 4-5 years to really used it on the street when it is needed.Whatever negative comments about it, i'm sure aikidoka will learn these:1)caution 2)distance 3)reflex 4)speed 5) stability & 6)timing.
syimang 1 year ago 6
@syimang less then few months of training can get u prepared... but you have to be physically fit.
mjufpn 1 year ago
@syimang But what if you cannot keep distance because the opponent comes close to you?
FearThisChannel 7 months ago
@FearThisChannel Distance doesn't mean far. In fact Aikido is more usable if the opponent is nearer(jiujitsu & judo r from the same roots).What i meant is we 'understand' the distance in between..by understands it, we should reflex. That is when timing comes in..
syimang 7 months ago
I love the footwork! I also liked the jo techniques - clean, powerful, efficient and beautiful.
astrochess 2 years ago
Is that at the Kodokan?
Godsmasher22 2 years ago
Sensei Moriteru awesome form great to see such precision. for all the nay sayers Aiki done like this is Art and the Sensei here is a Meastro.I hope one day you can see this for what it is and stop comparing it to MMA and other aggressive forms
jertzybolofsky 2 years ago 29
@jertzybolofsky "other aggressive forms"???? pfff ... Thats just really wrong to say that about other styles.
Jozsef86330 1 year ago
@jertzybolofsky I agree, MMA is truly the bread and circus of the new millenium. For those that don't understand this, look it up...
wajwatkins1 1 year ago
i also like the styles where the sensei doesn't tell the uke which way to attack. I've seen some sensei that have realistic styles. but they're hard to find.
chebf1231 2 years ago
the attack is mostly for the over head sword attack or the grab during the battle. that's my opinion. some senseis have styles that i like better. no ones going to grab you with all there might? the style i like are the one's where the get grabbed anywhere on the toro. that's real.
chebf1231 2 years ago
Aikido evolved from the Samurai way of the sword,,,, Daito Ryu Aiki jujitsu then to Aikido and the way you practice it is just like holding a sword. Bokken and Jo practice are essentials in Aikido practice as well as Iaido. Extending and developing your center is one of the most important thing in Aikido. You can call it Japanese dance or any name because it looks so graceful.
Ihealya 2 years ago
Or maybe u think O sensei was gonne bananas and wanted you to play with katanas in your appartament ...or even better ...a naginata.
Nosferatum1066 2 years ago
Aikistock , if u practice aikido from the point of view you just said , YOU ARE STUPID ! If Ueshiba who created aikido(not for u morrons to get proud with it ) said that every person should practice aikido in his home(no matter age and sex) = he reffers to it as spiritual practice or\and physical exercise , U come now and say DIfferent ??????? Its like going to Pete Sampras or Federer and tell them that you BELIVE that they are not playing tennis , BUT golf or cricket !
Nosferatum1066 2 years ago
And your point is?
JHRMS 2 years ago
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aikido is not a martial art !!! not a fighting art , not even fighting sport !
Nosferatum1066 2 years ago
Yeah but you have to understand the context to Ueshiba's statement. There are different expressions of Aikido, some are very martial some are the opposite. Which form you practice depends on your circumstances. The techniques are not Aikido what the techniques teach is Aikido so how you practice is irrelevent provided you gain an understanding of Aikido. In fact, there are no techniques in Aikido.
ketsan 2 years ago
@Nosferatum1066 Wow, what a good comparisant. Congratulations on not sounding stupid at all. Your world must be so simple. Must be wonderful living there.
aikistok 1 year ago
Salishaw, I guess it's akin to studying archery; it's an artifact from a different age but it's still interesting and cool. At any rate, as has been stated below, the physical movements of this art really amount to an exquisitely elegant means of pursuing a certain kind of spiritual experience.
Aikido is also concerned with developing "ki" energy, which means establishing a link between our conscious minds and some processes of the body which are normally totally unconscious.
sowgod 2 years ago
Now, I can agree to philosophical, mediphysics idea. That much is true to any form of dance like Tai Chi - Aikido spiritual movements. So that much is very true about Aikido.
salishaw 2 years ago
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Rene09091971 2 years ago
You have no clue about me. Taking personal jabs only reflects the over drawn reactionary behavior of yourself. Let's be mature and adult minded about our responses here. Flabby simple mentality is mere waste. I don't have to accept your philosophical understandings of an art.
salishaw 2 years ago
Dont talk abouit things where you have no clue.
Rene09091971 2 years ago
Please spare me your antics.
salishaw 2 years ago
Be mature.
Rene09091971 2 years ago
I've traveled all over the world from United Kingdom, Morocco, Saudi Arabia, Spain, France and Italy. I speak two languages fluently(American Cowboys only speak English). I have been in marital arts for over 15 years. With a diverse repertoire of Burmese boxing, Karate, Brazilian Jiujitsu and a little Aikido.
salishaw 2 years ago
Most Aikido today is for spiritual dance like movements similar to Tai Chi and that's true. Aikido is a philosophical, understand yourself and become peaceful with the world movement. It's more about spiritual awakening and less about physical encounters. So it's not incorrect to say Aikido like dancing. Nothing wrong with that.
salishaw 2 years ago
Practicing Aiklido since 8 years 6 hours on daily bases, 6 days a week and lived for one year at my sensei. You are not right in your statements here. Just take it how it is, study it and come back after 5 years when youhave the experiences and you know what Aikido is. And my congrats, I am speaking 4 languages. I also practiced Karate for a long time and had some experiences agains other arts. You will never know if you stay on this level. Greetings,
Rene09091971 2 years ago 3
Aikidoist spend more time defending the legitimacy of Aikido as a martial art because of comments often perceived as attacks. In all my travels around the world, Aikidoist have the biggest perception problem. Very rarely due you find Jiujutsu, Karate, Boxing, not even Tai Chi martial artist, exhaust as much time defending their art. Youtube is full of debates and arguments regarding the legitimacy of Aikido as realistic form of self defense.
salishaw 2 years ago
Again, Aikido is what a person wants it to be. Donovan Waite, said it best. Aikido can be a spiritual religious salvation or a viable means of self defense. So it's OK to have Aikido dancing.
salishaw 2 years ago
ok.... ;-)
Rene09091971 2 years ago
I respectfully disagree. Saying aikido may look like dancing...ok. But that is only because there aresimilarities: working with rythm and lfuidity for example. But the premis of aikido is completely different then that of dance. I practice aikido from a martial pesrpective. People that see aikido as dance in my opinion, only see half of aikido (or even less).
aikistok 2 years ago 14
@aikistok The truth of the matter is, it should resemble a dance. Its about blending with your attacker and moving in harmony. it looks like a dance because of the experience level. You get thrown full speed without proper training, its not gonna feel like anything except a few moments of confusion and then pain when you smack the ground.
CheetaReborn 1 year ago
@CheetaReborn You talk about "the truth" a lot, as if it is for you to decide what is and what isn't the truth. I do not think the truth is that it "should resemble a dance." Saying that takes away the focus from the martial component and focusing on making it look like a dance. That is just silly. Dances should look like dances, aikido should be good. No matter what it resembles. AN I would advise not claiming to own the truth, it makes you sound sillier than you probably are.
aikistok 1 year ago