I bought a pair of Dali Lektor 2, the sound is amazing!! I have an older Nad T743 receiver, which kicks the bass to maximum. Before Lektor 2, i had two Dali 3a which I unfortunately lost in a fire. The bass from both Lektor 2 and 3a was nothing you expect to hear from two midsized speakers for under 500 bucks. No more over expensive Bose for me
Had Dali ikon 7 .Good,but not very good.Tried them with at least 20 amplifiers in 3 years-tube and solid state,new(from the store) and vintage amplifiers-They had problems with playing trumpet,xilophone and vocals are not so smooth,and sometimes the tweeters sound too metalic..For rock music ok,for acoustic music or jazz vocals-not perfect.
Don't know what to tell you if you think they Ikon tweeter sounds Metallic. Most transparent sounding shit I've ever heard. They're so delicately precise in sparkle and twinkle and sing with muscular precision on bold horns. For a good speaker, it's Klipsch that can sound a little metalic. Which is the LAST thing I'd personally consider the versitile timre of the DALI hybrid.
@Hzqi I brought Dali Ikon 7 new from the store,had them two years.They didn't sound bad.They were crisp.But could not listen some Davis trumpet,xilophone,marimba or acordion.The guitar was perfect.I changed some 20 amps for those Dalis-tube amps,solid state,new or 30 years vintage,and couldn't remove that pitch vibrations.Some say that Dali make bad crossovers.But that's what ''they'' say,wich i don't care.Just like all those payed reviews in hifi magazines.What you hear with your get.
@Hzqi Like you said-you find Klipsch speakers metalic and some people say that Klipsch rule.I never owned one so i woul not know.I was 85% satisfied with those Dali Ikon speakers so i moved on.Had chance to borrow old Quadrals,and listen to both speakers at the same timeSo i sold Dali and brought those way uglyer and older Quadral Amun.
@thenoti1 Trust me,with speakers i own now i like the instruments but i'm not satisfied with vocals and i miss that full room sound where sound is moved far away from the speakers.They don't disapear as good as Dali speakers.So the story is still not finished :-)
Being that the Amuns are exclusively ribbon-tweeter driven, perhaps you have more of a perchant for the less forceful timbre of ribbon tweeters. I'm a bit of a lover of highs, and the Dali is rather pronounced. But it's hybrid blends the force of the textile dome with the razor subtlety of the ribbon. The metalic quality you describe could also derive from the source of receiver or processor, too. The MARANTZ is a warmly resonant mix with the DALI.
20 different amps? I'm not getting too far into, but it's interesting to wonder what amps, set-up and EQing they were subjected to. Also what player they were running on. I have people literally dumbfounded at how good the Ikons sound running a DTS or TrueHD signal. Subwoofer combo? What's the Xover mix you have on them? People often buy Ikon 7s to run WITHOUT a sub. I use Ikon 5s and Vokal 2s SPECIFICALLY for the more linear 5 driver, and to go with a Rhythmik sub.
For rock music? lol. I love my rock, and it seperates the noisiness well (Pearl Jam's VS is a particular favourite mix) but have always considered the subtle audio-cues present in acoustics and jazz to be a profound showcase for the Dalis. Especially really del-i-cate acoustic. Ry Cooder's score to Paris Texas sounds excrutiatingly rich and subtle. You quote things that are among my favourite reasons FOR the Ikons (ROFL!). Horns, Xylophones, vocal reproduction.
Perhaps I should remember you're talking about Ikon 7s, I'm talking about Ikon 5s and Vokal 2s. There is 3 x 6.5 vs 2 x 5. Maybe I too would hear the vocal gripe you do when spending time with the 7s. I find the 2 x the 5s has a nice presence in piston area, is wonderfully linear and transparent, but in that configuration is perfectly balanced with the hybrid tweeter.
I like the sound of the 5s better than the 6s. Maybe the 7s would wash out.
Take a look - these speakers are actually being designed, made and assembled in Denmark, not China. They are definitely not a mass-market component, and their assemblers are skilled people who care about the finished product, not Chinese peasant labor or factory-city labor that doesn't care about quality as long as they get their pay. While this factory doesn't look as advanced as the Bowers & Wilkins factory, there is no doubt that these people know they are making a high-end product.
I would like to see other video, despite this one is very good...problem is that they had not the care to clean hands and those details that shows small worry with details.... place to signature was placed out of alignment and things alike that...i think the factory deserves a better resolution video ...and i have asked to the Dali Loudspeaker webmaster to tell the Marketing Department to upload higher resolution video, or to produce a higher quality one, as competition is showing better work.
DjAuda, I can not believe that you got a pair of Dali 109's for free. They are old school legendary speakers, not many domestic made speakers can match them for crispy quality and raw power. Hand them down to your kids.
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this is just mass market junk,and their flagship?? it was the same cabinet, same design,different finish and they stuffed some dampining in it..big deal,same poor design cabinet means same sound as the cheap one,just looks different.
What is really funny about this video, the assembler of the flagship box, she installs the drivers and tweeds, and puts in the damping,ect,ect..and never wears whitegloves during any of it..the shipper in dirty warehouse roller rack,speaker all packed away...does.
You have absolutley no idea of what you are talking about..
The first speaker was a Dali Ikon8- and the second was a Dali Helicon 400- helicon got a curved cabinet 4 less transients and more diffusion inside the cabinet.. The drivers and xover is of a much higher quality then the rest.. Calling this mass market junk, just shows how little you actually know.. And btw, this aint their flagship.. Search 4 Dali Megaline --
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Buddy, this is a company that churns out mass market boxes that you can buy in a drugstore in northamerica, the same company attempts to build "better" speakers like this example.Its still mass market junk.
....Less transients and more diffusion inside the cabinet??? wtf is that garble? you get those terms from stereophile magazine.?..i dont think i read any thing funnier on utube today...those terms mean nothing.. and less diffusion inside cabinet is so laughingly bad, i almost pissed myself.
Kaiserkraut, I do agree that these speakers are assembly line products. However they are made really well and sound great ! I am thinking about the purchase of a set of
Ikon - 7 for a computer set up.
Just wondering what you would recommend for $ 2000.00 or less that would be better ?
Opinions are a dime a dozen,but a solid bit of advise, if you have 2thou to spend, consider used.Look for boxes that were priced 5-10thou,5 -10 years ago. and go from there, you will always get better that way than pulling a set of 2thou speakers new out of box.Anyway, who gives a fuck what anyone says about anything, as long as the speakers you purchase sound good to you...who gives a fuck about anyone else.
Mass market junk? Like the Helicon400 ani- they only made 500 units.. That aint hardly mass market junk...
Its not my fault that you dont know the basic therms of acoustics... A speaker make the same amount of SPL inside the cabinet as outside of it, so the curved cabinets to the Helicon AND Euphiona series are almost as ideal it can get...
It is clear you dont know anything about physichs or audio.. Go listen to your Bose system.....
I think, what you are refering is, that although small numbers, still produced under the same pricipals as any mass market product: bunch of components: premade cabinet parts, crossover parts, loudspeakers...glue em, srew em and you have a speaker building company. Looks massproduction to me. If you like to see a REAL speaker building company, search for Audes. From the drivers to the cabinets, all are built and designed ground up. Beat that, mister!
I have a pair of Dali 109 (with 10" double bass-speakers). They have extreme bass. I got it for FREE (LOL). Love them. NEVER gonna sell them (and that is not beacuse i got them for free, they have great sound). The man who gave me the speakers, said that it just was the tweeters who was broken. I bought a new pair of hi-end tweeters and the speakers is good as new!
I have a pair of DALI 450 since 1995 with a Luxman C-03/M-03 pre/power amplifier. They sounds absolute great! Look at EBAY and you will see, that´s almost rare who sell a DALI! Other speaker you get on mass.
Wow. I can just imagine the nightmare of having a temp job at this speaker factory. I guess I wouldn't mind the soldering and assembly of those crossovers--but making those same joints day after day would drive me to drink. And I'm a teetotaler.
Great information. Nice relaxing music. Most of all how about the nice looking brunette at 1:18. She even plays to the camera a little with that sexy smile. Wow, what a set of speakers !
Wonderful product!
dalemack2k 4 days ago
I chose Focal Chorus 800 series over Dali Ikon mk2..
Even though I'm from Denmark !
kedde2005 1 month ago
I have the Dali Zensor 1 and im soooo happy!!! Best speakers ever
silasje1 1 month ago
Two words people BOWERS AND WILKINS.
jonamuk7 2 months ago
@jonamuk7 Thats 3 words...
kimandrb 1 month ago
I bought a pair of Dali Lektor 2, the sound is amazing!! I have an older Nad T743 receiver, which kicks the bass to maximum. Before Lektor 2, i had two Dali 3a which I unfortunately lost in a fire. The bass from both Lektor 2 and 3a was nothing you expect to hear from two midsized speakers for under 500 bucks. No more over expensive Bose for me
RetardBoy37 3 months ago
just got the dali helicon 800s, the most amazing speakers i have heard for a long time
craig9569 3 months ago in playlist craig9569's favorites 2
ME WANT! Saving up for the Ikon Line here.. Love the video, hand made quality gear from Europe, can't want to get mine.
Templar2k2k 4 months ago
Danish Audio Laboratories Incorporated
transdrole 1 year ago
@transdrole *Danish Audiophile Loudspeaker Industries
Fris01 1 year ago
How come the Danes are experts in making loudspeakers and/or loudspeaker units so commonplace in high-end speakers from other manufacturers?
arcamadeus 1 year ago
Dali Megaline III are best made speakers from Dali
MATUXAZ 1 year ago
I'm a blessed man having the Dali Euphonia's ms4. :D It's realy noticeable that they are made in a production line...
SEvanDijk87 1 year ago
i hope a girl made my dali lektor 8
FAPSgaming 1 year ago
Had Dali ikon 7 .Good,but not very good.Tried them with at least 20 amplifiers in 3 years-tube and solid state,new(from the store) and vintage amplifiers-They had problems with playing trumpet,xilophone and vocals are not so smooth,and sometimes the tweeters sound too metalic..For rock music ok,for acoustic music or jazz vocals-not perfect.
thenoti1 1 year ago
@thenoti1
Don't know what to tell you if you think they Ikon tweeter sounds Metallic. Most transparent sounding shit I've ever heard. They're so delicately precise in sparkle and twinkle and sing with muscular precision on bold horns. For a good speaker, it's Klipsch that can sound a little metalic. Which is the LAST thing I'd personally consider the versitile timre of the DALI hybrid.
Hzqi 7 months ago
@Hzqi I brought Dali Ikon 7 new from the store,had them two years.They didn't sound bad.They were crisp.But could not listen some Davis trumpet,xilophone,marimba or acordion.The guitar was perfect.I changed some 20 amps for those Dalis-tube amps,solid state,new or 30 years vintage,and couldn't remove that pitch vibrations.Some say that Dali make bad crossovers.But that's what ''they'' say,wich i don't care.Just like all those payed reviews in hifi magazines.What you hear with your get.
thenoti1 7 months ago
@Hzqi Like you said-you find Klipsch speakers metalic and some people say that Klipsch rule.I never owned one so i woul not know.I was 85% satisfied with those Dali Ikon speakers so i moved on.Had chance to borrow old Quadrals,and listen to both speakers at the same timeSo i sold Dali and brought those way uglyer and older Quadral Amun.
thenoti1 7 months ago
@thenoti1 Trust me,with speakers i own now i like the instruments but i'm not satisfied with vocals and i miss that full room sound where sound is moved far away from the speakers.They don't disapear as good as Dali speakers.So the story is still not finished :-)
thenoti1 7 months ago
@thenoti1
Being that the Amuns are exclusively ribbon-tweeter driven, perhaps you have more of a perchant for the less forceful timbre of ribbon tweeters. I'm a bit of a lover of highs, and the Dali is rather pronounced. But it's hybrid blends the force of the textile dome with the razor subtlety of the ribbon. The metalic quality you describe could also derive from the source of receiver or processor, too. The MARANTZ is a warmly resonant mix with the DALI.
Hzqi 7 months ago
20 different amps? I'm not getting too far into, but it's interesting to wonder what amps, set-up and EQing they were subjected to. Also what player they were running on. I have people literally dumbfounded at how good the Ikons sound running a DTS or TrueHD signal. Subwoofer combo? What's the Xover mix you have on them? People often buy Ikon 7s to run WITHOUT a sub. I use Ikon 5s and Vokal 2s SPECIFICALLY for the more linear 5 driver, and to go with a Rhythmik sub.
Hzqi 7 months ago
@thenoti1
For rock music? lol. I love my rock, and it seperates the noisiness well (Pearl Jam's VS is a particular favourite mix) but have always considered the subtle audio-cues present in acoustics and jazz to be a profound showcase for the Dalis. Especially really del-i-cate acoustic. Ry Cooder's score to Paris Texas sounds excrutiatingly rich and subtle. You quote things that are among my favourite reasons FOR the Ikons (ROFL!). Horns, Xylophones, vocal reproduction.
Hzqi 7 months ago
Perhaps I should remember you're talking about Ikon 7s, I'm talking about Ikon 5s and Vokal 2s. There is 3 x 6.5 vs 2 x 5. Maybe I too would hear the vocal gripe you do when spending time with the 7s. I find the 2 x the 5s has a nice presence in piston area, is wonderfully linear and transparent, but in that configuration is perfectly balanced with the hybrid tweeter.
I like the sound of the 5s better than the 6s. Maybe the 7s would wash out.
Hzqi 7 months ago
Take a look - these speakers are actually being designed, made and assembled in Denmark, not China. They are definitely not a mass-market component, and their assemblers are skilled people who care about the finished product, not Chinese peasant labor or factory-city labor that doesn't care about quality as long as they get their pay. While this factory doesn't look as advanced as the Bowers & Wilkins factory, there is no doubt that these people know they are making a high-end product.
rorybz 1 year ago
There is a pair of Helicon 400s in my living room right know. Great speakers! =)
FrodeFlodhest 1 year ago
Dali are very good, Dynaudio are ...better IMO. Both are Danish. Danes know how to make GREAT speakers. I own a few Dynaudio and Dali speakers.
bsod4u2 1 year ago
wow, i got Dali 104 1 week ago, it sounds great !
antiteacher87 2 years ago
i hope dali makes some sealed box spakers. they really sound much better to me than ported (bass reflex) speakers.
simon1234simon 2 years ago
I would like to see other video, despite this one is very good...problem is that they had not the care to clean hands and those details that shows small worry with details.... place to signature was placed out of alignment and things alike that...i think the factory deserves a better resolution video ...and i have asked to the Dali Loudspeaker webmaster to tell the Marketing Department to upload higher resolution video, or to produce a higher quality one, as competition is showing better work.
destroyersoueu 2 years ago
I have sent a mail to Dali webmaster, asking them to upload this video once again, having higher resolution into the image.
destroyersoueu 2 years ago 2
DjAuda, I can not believe that you got a pair of Dali 109's for free. They are old school legendary speakers, not many domestic made speakers can match them for crispy quality and raw power. Hand them down to your kids.
MrToeknee2 2 years ago 2
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this is just mass market junk,and their flagship?? it was the same cabinet, same design,different finish and they stuffed some dampining in it..big deal,same poor design cabinet means same sound as the cheap one,just looks different.
What is really funny about this video, the assembler of the flagship box, she installs the drivers and tweeds, and puts in the damping,ect,ect..and never wears whitegloves during any of it..the shipper in dirty warehouse roller rack,speaker all packed away...does.
KAISERKRAUT 2 years ago
You have absolutley no idea of what you are talking about..
The first speaker was a Dali Ikon8- and the second was a Dali Helicon 400- helicon got a curved cabinet 4 less transients and more diffusion inside the cabinet.. The drivers and xover is of a much higher quality then the rest.. Calling this mass market junk, just shows how little you actually know.. And btw, this aint their flagship.. Search 4 Dali Megaline --
Peace out-
dreamphaze 2 years ago
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Buddy, this is a company that churns out mass market boxes that you can buy in a drugstore in northamerica, the same company attempts to build "better" speakers like this example.Its still mass market junk.
....Less transients and more diffusion inside the cabinet??? wtf is that garble? you get those terms from stereophile magazine.?..i dont think i read any thing funnier on utube today...those terms mean nothing.. and less diffusion inside cabinet is so laughingly bad, i almost pissed myself.
KAISERKRAUT 2 years ago
Kaiserkraut, I do agree that these speakers are assembly line products. However they are made really well and sound great ! I am thinking about the purchase of a set of
Ikon - 7 for a computer set up.
Just wondering what you would recommend for $ 2000.00 or less that would be better ?
Thanks
kimbalxyz 2 years ago
Opinions are a dime a dozen,but a solid bit of advise, if you have 2thou to spend, consider used.Look for boxes that were priced 5-10thou,5 -10 years ago. and go from there, you will always get better that way than pulling a set of 2thou speakers new out of box.Anyway, who gives a fuck what anyone says about anything, as long as the speakers you purchase sound good to you...who gives a fuck about anyone else.
Let YOUR ears decide, not others.
And to fuck with their opinions.
KAISERKRAUT 2 years ago
I think you have replied to me by mistake. I never said that. Anyway I prefer Royd speakers and several other speaker brands before considering Dali.
Joyriser 2 years ago
Nice...now just send along a pair of the helicons with piano gloss finish and I will run them in for you :)
Joyriser 2 years ago
Mass market junk? Like the Helicon400 ani- they only made 500 units.. That aint hardly mass market junk...
Its not my fault that you dont know the basic therms of acoustics... A speaker make the same amount of SPL inside the cabinet as outside of it, so the curved cabinets to the Helicon AND Euphiona series are almost as ideal it can get...
It is clear you dont know anything about physichs or audio.. Go listen to your Bose system.....
dreamphaze 2 years ago 18
haha i was going to say the same. He probably does have a bose system
paulusandronicus 2 years ago
@dreamphaze
I think, what you are refering is, that although small numbers, still produced under the same pricipals as any mass market product: bunch of components: premade cabinet parts, crossover parts, loudspeakers...glue em, srew em and you have a speaker building company. Looks massproduction to me. If you like to see a REAL speaker building company, search for Audes. From the drivers to the cabinets, all are built and designed ground up. Beat that, mister!
tartupets 1 year ago
I have a pair of Dali 109 (with 10" double bass-speakers). They have extreme bass. I got it for FREE (LOL). Love them. NEVER gonna sell them (and that is not beacuse i got them for free, they have great sound). The man who gave me the speakers, said that it just was the tweeters who was broken. I bought a new pair of hi-end tweeters and the speakers is good as new!
DjAudaSpexx 3 years ago
i have a pair of DALI 104 (2x6,5") from 1995 and they still kick ass:) never gonna sell them. best speakers i`ve ever owned:)
Grill187 3 years ago
I have a pair of DALI 450 since 1995 with a Luxman C-03/M-03 pre/power amplifier. They sounds absolute great! Look at EBAY and you will see, that´s almost rare who sell a DALI! Other speaker you get on mass.
gpmike95 3 years ago
can you tell me what song it is? sax at 3:49... :)
honzic 3 years ago
i love this video!
dannybloemberg213 3 years ago
Wow. I can just imagine the nightmare of having a temp job at this speaker factory. I guess I wouldn't mind the soldering and assembly of those crossovers--but making those same joints day after day would drive me to drink. And I'm a teetotaler.
kc7fys 3 years ago
Nice video. I have a pair of Jamo C series speakers and I think they are great.
I always thought speakers were made by machines, but now i know, cool!
EdmDude 3 years ago
Great information. Nice relaxing music. Most of all how about the nice looking brunette at 1:18. She even plays to the camera a little with that sexy smile. Wow, what a set of speakers !
kimbalxyz 3 years ago
oah so great (and really good music too)
DjBaneAtWebDe 3 years ago 2
I love that the jazzy, sexy music came on when they started building the Helicon's. I love mine, especially with the rosenut finish.
TheAdamBom 3 years ago
I have one pair of Dali 109 (Some black speakers with 2x10" subs in, 1x5" midrange and 1x1" dome tweeter).
h8u4ever 3 years ago
They dont have great subs though that's a shame.
Cumkata 3 years ago
I own DALI speakers, I love them, most natural sound in the world. Check them out before you buy ANY other loudspeaker!
Minsk45 3 years ago 3
very calm music, love it!
nice speakers too, wonder how much they cost :P
frifox 4 years ago 2
DALI make some of the very best speakers in the world, all handmade. The IKON serie is amazing.
IvarTheBoneIess 3 years ago 20
@IvarTheBoneIess All speakers are handmade, to a certain extent.
Laofse 1 year ago
@IvarTheBoneIess and all the components are cheap china made....
sondreborseth 1 year ago