La pianista es muy bella --- la musica es hermosa y meliodiosa como toda la musica argentina --- Yo no se que mas se le pueden pedir al olmo ... y tampoco entiendo como medir el tiempo (il tempo como dicen los cursis) para determinar si la velocidad asignada por Ginastera a su pieza, es, o un poco mas rapida, o un poco mas lenta, cuando para mi gusto, es perfecta ... hay que ser muy autosuficiente, o un farsante, para opinar al respecto --- Te amo Martha -- Un chileno desde Canadá.
@Tito73Moraga el tiempo no es lo mismo que el tempo, y no es un asunto de idioma, se le dice así! Y la 'velocidad' está anotada en la obra escrita! Saludos, la obra es bellísima de todos modos.
To those who think Argerich's interpretation is too fast, I recommend listening to a few Argentine folkloric dances. They are lively. Argerich's tempo is the right tempo to dance this piece. Wonderful interpretation! By the way, those who are not familiar with Argentine folklore (like Michael Tilson Thomas, for example) also make the mistake of playing Ginastera's ballet Estancia, especially the last movement Malambo, way too fast. After all, Malambo is also a dance.
Believe it or not, I am studying this piece, and the speed indicated by Ginastera (I think) is that fast. I makes me wonder, as I like it a little slower. And I like respecting author's indications!
Esta version es para escucharla, a mi juicio, con los ojos cerrados y sentir la suavidad con que toca el teclado ese brillo y elegancia que nos da Marta.
This is a wonderful performance: warm, charismatic, glowing in colours, totally alive. Martha is a Master in whatever she does, because she is not capable of not being herself - most exquisite piano player of our time. The Master is not here to play to other peoples' ideas or preferences. They do not come to do other peoples' bidding. They show new and fresh ideas of beauty - and thank goodness for that!
Si lo comparas con la version original si, pero tambien le da un aire mas cercano a la zamba con esta velocidad, que no le queda nada mal. A mi me gusta.
I think to understand this music you must watch how the argentinian folklore is danced, and from the north of argentina,let say TUCUMAN;SANTIAGO DEL ESTERO,but the traditional one. If you imagine this piece danced by a couple maybe the critic would be different..about tempo,agogic,etc....
I like it her attitude, her independence, but I also think that her piano playing is overrated, especially in slow movements. These excessive erruptions become really annoying after a while.
Even elenacasanova below agreed that it was a "little fast." I think that it was too fast. I also think she uses too much damper. As a judge, I would still rate the performance with an "A"; for completely valid and justifiable reasons, I simply prefer a different "A". Furthermore I would assert that anyone who blindly lauds a star actually disrespects that star, because he does not firmly regard the abstract standard, independent of him or her, upon which his or her merit rests.
She should stick to prestos. This is taken too fast and is drowned in damper. The syncopation of the dance is lost in all the rubato. Undoubtedly, the interpretation has its own strengths - namely, her uncanny ability to control the gradual dynamic swell as the harmonization thickens - but it also misses a lot of the potential evocations that a slower, dryer, more direct approach would capture.
It is a fool who offers blind praise to every trip and blunder of a god, simply because he sees a god. As I said in my comment, the performance has major strengths. No one would deny that Agerich is one of the greatest pianists in human history. Though _capable_ of any technical feat or even interpretive device, perhaps she chose to approach this piece in a limited way. There are many, equally valid interpretations of a single score. At the time of my post, I happened to prefer 1 over another.
y sin respeto a otros compositores que han pasado a la historia y siguen siendo recordados, por que me disculpas te podrias presentar? yo ati NO te conosco y tu nick name no me dice nada, como para hablar de ti mismo como algo ke me suena a pura mentira, o si no porfavor hazme ver quien eres
Está bien, si eres pianista y tienes experiencia, pues te creo. Pero no creo que Ginastera sea mediocre, de hecho esta obra es una de las más hermosas que he oído... eso no se puede negar.
ginastera mediocre? y me disculpas pero si QUE mediocre e ignorante eres TU, no te veo lo respetuoso ni lo conocedor en tu Soy pianista y compositor, por ke como buen compositor debes de saber ke pasa en las obras de ginastera por ke se requiere mucho conocimiento teorico musical que envuelve muchos temas, como para ser un BUEN compositor que por lo que dicen tus comentario hablan de ti como un "compositor" mediocre
I've been looking for a downloadable recording of this piece but this one is lovely (Audacity!). Ginistera loves to make mysterious beauty creep out of dissonance and he does it so well in the Argentine dances.
I was studying these 3 danzas, they are amazing. This second one, the final chord somehow always reminded me of the first chord of the Pink Panther's theme. Obviously is not the same chord but still I cannot help but remember it.
esta interpretación evidentemente es magnífica, me hubiera gustado verla ejecutada, pero me conformo con ver el hermoso rostro de esta talentosísima piantista. Viva Argerich!!
magnifique performance
best pianist ever!!!
gabriella60730 4 weeks ago
La pianista es muy bella --- la musica es hermosa y meliodiosa como toda la musica argentina --- Yo no se que mas se le pueden pedir al olmo ... y tampoco entiendo como medir el tiempo (il tempo como dicen los cursis) para determinar si la velocidad asignada por Ginastera a su pieza, es, o un poco mas rapida, o un poco mas lenta, cuando para mi gusto, es perfecta ... hay que ser muy autosuficiente, o un farsante, para opinar al respecto --- Te amo Martha -- Un chileno desde Canadá.
Tito73Moraga 4 months ago
@Tito73Moraga el tiempo no es lo mismo que el tempo, y no es un asunto de idioma, se le dice así! Y la 'velocidad' está anotada en la obra escrita! Saludos, la obra es bellísima de todos modos.
sergioventurini 2 months ago
Godlike phrasing.
hymnofashes 5 months ago
Beautiful subtle interpretation. I love her phrasing and rubato. Can't be beat.
saunsnaen 6 months ago
this is played way too fast, i couldn't even enjoy the peice. it would've been beautiful if you slowed it down
crUUw 8 months ago
Even so, you can't dance to it this fast. I love the interpretation, but still I think it sounds better slower.
firevixen01 9 months ago
To those who think Argerich's interpretation is too fast, I recommend listening to a few Argentine folkloric dances. They are lively. Argerich's tempo is the right tempo to dance this piece. Wonderful interpretation! By the way, those who are not familiar with Argentine folklore (like Michael Tilson Thomas, for example) also make the mistake of playing Ginastera's ballet Estancia, especially the last movement Malambo, way too fast. After all, Malambo is also a dance.
chu10rro 1 year ago 2
Believe it or not, I am studying this piece, and the speed indicated by Ginastera (I think) is that fast. I makes me wonder, as I like it a little slower. And I like respecting author's indications!
mikeLaPoire 1 year ago
I think it's too fast.
violamaiden 1 year ago
Well, "a little faster" is because no others is paying attention at the composer's tempo mark. After all it is a dance, not a funeral march.
14058752 1 year ago 3
I likeyiur interpretation of this.You make it sound like a dance, which it really is
flutepro 1 year ago
Esta version es para escucharla, a mi juicio, con los ojos cerrados y sentir la suavidad con que toca el teclado ese brillo y elegancia que nos da Marta.
karlosas1950 1 year ago
solo escucharla emociona, tiene sensibilidad y eso es.......... hermoso.
Damasaori 1 year ago
He escuchado otras versiones un tanto mas lentas pero la maestra definitivamente le dio en el tempo danza... danza... pero claro donosa... !
phortus 1 year ago
Beatufull, great maestra
ihstyan 1 year ago
perfect!
04deen 1 year ago
bello
phortus 1 year ago
This is a wonderful performance: warm, charismatic, glowing in colours, totally alive. Martha is a Master in whatever she does, because she is not capable of not being herself - most exquisite piano player of our time. The Master is not here to play to other peoples' ideas or preferences. They do not come to do other peoples' bidding. They show new and fresh ideas of beauty - and thank goodness for that!
lenucya 1 year ago 2
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lenucya 1 year ago
bellissimo!!
GennaroBlanc 1 year ago
In my argentine opinion, it is a little too fast!! No está un poquitín acelerada esta mujer? Eso no quita que sea una ídola.
chelasola 2 years ago
Si lo comparas con la version original si, pero tambien le da un aire mas cercano a la zamba con esta velocidad, que no le queda nada mal. A mi me gusta.
granojet 1 year ago 2
I think to understand this music you must watch how the argentinian folklore is danced, and from the north of argentina,let say TUCUMAN;SANTIAGO DEL ESTERO,but the traditional one. If you imagine this piece danced by a couple maybe the critic would be different..about tempo,agogic,etc....
zsofia10 2 years ago
I like it her attitude, her independence, but I also think that her piano playing is overrated, especially in slow movements. These excessive erruptions become really annoying after a while.
mjelle1965 2 years ago
I will agree that her dynamic variation, phrasing and rhythmic consistency here is superb.
musicalidea 2 years ago
Sometimes the greatest respect is payed with a criticism.
musicalidea 2 years ago
Even elenacasanova below agreed that it was a "little fast." I think that it was too fast. I also think she uses too much damper. As a judge, I would still rate the performance with an "A"; for completely valid and justifiable reasons, I simply prefer a different "A". Furthermore I would assert that anyone who blindly lauds a star actually disrespects that star, because he does not firmly regard the abstract standard, independent of him or her, upon which his or her merit rests.
musicalidea 2 years ago
ca me tue , elle joue tellement bien !! superbe morceau !!
sampesaregol 2 years ago
She should stick to prestos. This is taken too fast and is drowned in damper. The syncopation of the dance is lost in all the rubato. Undoubtedly, the interpretation has its own strengths - namely, her uncanny ability to control the gradual dynamic swell as the harmonization thickens - but it also misses a lot of the potential evocations that a slower, dryer, more direct approach would capture.
musicalidea 2 years ago
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God...you are a an ignorant fool, criticizing argerich!
glider209 2 years ago
It is a fool who offers blind praise to every trip and blunder of a god, simply because he sees a god. As I said in my comment, the performance has major strengths. No one would deny that Agerich is one of the greatest pianists in human history. Though _capable_ of any technical feat or even interpretive device, perhaps she chose to approach this piece in a limited way. There are many, equally valid interpretations of a single score. At the time of my post, I happened to prefer 1 over another.
musicalidea 2 years ago 2
真的有"韻味"~~!!從一開始的巧妙的進拍,地方性神韻就飛出!!搭著既定的節奏型態,感覺似乎展演出"內心戲"的味道。頗"撩人心弦"~^^
seremerow 2 years ago
y sin respeto a otros compositores que han pasado a la historia y siguen siendo recordados, por que me disculpas te podrias presentar? yo ati NO te conosco y tu nick name no me dice nada, como para hablar de ti mismo como algo ke me suena a pura mentira, o si no porfavor hazme ver quien eres
Jamez5cz 2 years ago
The Princess of the Piano <3
laqin007 2 years ago
who is the queen then?
Aensgard 2 years ago
Clara Schumann. :)
laqin007 2 years ago
@laqin007
Annie Fischer
leonengard 1 year ago
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These Ginastera pieces are very mediocre, but Argerich is Brava!!!
1810fox 2 years ago
What an ignorant person.
Alejandro270193 2 years ago
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1810fox 2 years ago
Está bien, si eres pianista y tienes experiencia, pues te creo. Pero no creo que Ginastera sea mediocre, de hecho esta obra es una de las más hermosas que he oído... eso no se puede negar.
Un Saludo desde Colombia!
Alejandro270193 2 years ago 2
ginastera mediocre? y me disculpas pero si QUE mediocre e ignorante eres TU, no te veo lo respetuoso ni lo conocedor en tu Soy pianista y compositor, por ke como buen compositor debes de saber ke pasa en las obras de ginastera por ke se requiere mucho conocimiento teorico musical que envuelve muchos temas, como para ser un BUEN compositor que por lo que dicen tus comentario hablan de ti como un "compositor" mediocre
Jamez5cz 2 years ago
Beautiful tears come to my eyes
TheCLockMen 2 years ago
Martha Argerich es una excelente pianista!! Cuida cada uno de los matices de acuerdo a la partitura.
Muy buena interpretacion!!
10 puntos :-)
raulratob 2 years ago
Argerich touches the piano and the heavens open.
JoFrSc 2 years ago 3
I've been looking for a downloadable recording of this piece but this one is lovely (Audacity!). Ginistera loves to make mysterious beauty creep out of dissonance and he does it so well in the Argentine dances.
1andonlyDEl 2 years ago 4
I was studying these 3 danzas, they are amazing. This second one, the final chord somehow always reminded me of the first chord of the Pink Panther's theme. Obviously is not the same chord but still I cannot help but remember it.
sergeidave 3 years ago
This is about a girl who is at the argentinian "Pampas" like plains with grass and nothing else w8ing for his loved one but he never returns. =)
Chopinco 2 years ago
love it love it!!!
lordoflaughter 3 years ago 4
Fabuloso esta oportunidad de escuchar, con excelente grabación esta interpretación de Ginastera, gracias!
carlosllorente 3 years ago
Me encanta Ginastera, y en especial como suena en el piano y tocado por Martha. 10 puntos.
PianistaBsAs 3 years ago 2
I love this interpretation. It's a little faster, but it isn't fast. It has the perfect touch of movement in the right places. She is the greatest!
elenacasanova 3 years ago 9
En la cuspide y me quedo corto...altisimo...
laguitarrita14 3 years ago
one of the best for sure.
cristian1085 3 years ago 8
esta interpretación evidentemente es magnífica, me hubiera gustado verla ejecutada, pero me conformo con ver el hermoso rostro de esta talentosísima piantista. Viva Argerich!!
carlitosginastera14 3 years ago 2
De las mejores interpretaciones de ésta obra que escuchado.
IgnisDivine 3 years ago
this is lovely.
cattleman6420012000 4 years ago 5