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what is the amp draw from the source battery using Bedini coil and Rodin coil? That is what "really" important. Because you know you can adjust the potentiometer "assuming your resistance on the trigger can be vary" of the Bedini circuit and I bet you gonna have those voltage same as Rodin coil.
when useing large "caps" capasitors be VERY aware of polarity i worked in a shop that did aerospace cuircut boards and i have seen a polarity accident with a large cap... THEY EXPLODE!!! PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK YOUR CUIRCUT EVERY TIME YOU TEST A NEW CONFIGURATION. also certain diodes if placed in the wrong polarity will really HEAT UP keep trying :). i am working on a similar marrage of techs, remember energy CAN'T be free, i'm trying for a good return, say 3% in and 90% out.
I think that the best applications for the rodin coil will arise out of the unique vortex field it generates. The difference between that vortex field and a standard toroid field would be what sets them apart if any economical commercial uses are discovered.
If you were to wind a standard toroid that size with the same inner and outer diameter and then apply high frequency AC I bet the sphere would still spin just as fast. Maybe faster since the toroidal field is more perpendicular.
The sphere spins faster as the AC frequency is raised for this reason - during the first half of the cycle the magnet is N pole up and S pole down, then the rodin coil switches its polarity and the magnet is rotated to a N pole down and S pole up position. Since the rodin coil is an air core toroid, it will be capable of very high frequency polarity shifts.
I made my own but I used 28 gauge wire and can only push half an amp through it. XD
i love the sound of it once you have the rodin coil on there. I wonder if anyone has ever built a really large rodin coil.. on a nikola tesla like scale of experimentation.
im making a 10incher. the toroid is a hollow plastic tube from lowes with an Inner Diameter of 1 1/4th inch. what i plan on doing is placing ferrofluid in side of the toroid. measure its V, A, Fc(centripetal Force) and Ac(centripetal accel.). i also want to test one with water filled to the brim. water with ferro fluid inside. a neo sphere inside and water with a neo shpere inside. all seperate torroids.
Would it be possible to get another metal ball similar to the one insde your bedini, weld it to the top of a small rod, place a circular gear an inch or so underneath the coil, and attach the rod (with ball on the top side of the coil) to the center of the gear that is underneath the coil? Just make sure the height of the ball is in the best possible spot, and boom, you have a motor. If I had the technical experience I'd do it myself, unfortunately I'm more logistically minded than technical
I'm busy moving right now, but I would like to get a cylinder magnet rotating where the sphere currently is, and have it attached to a rotor. On the end of the rotor I could then attach gear or pulley system, or another cylinder which could spin inside a generator coil.
Measuring out the Rodin coil and then doing a few practice 'winds' with string took about 30 minutes. The actual wire winding took probably around 2 hours, maybe less. I recommend doing a good trace and diagram of your toroid, measure out the 10 degree marks of separation along the circumference, and then connect the lines. After a few lines a smaller circle forms in the center - that is the amount of space you'll have to put your wire spool through as you wind! You need a thin spool!
The circuit diagram for this was flashed at the 18 second mark, it is only missing the Rodin coil connection - which is across B1 and B2. The Rodin coil is 24 gauge, 17 complete winds, following the method in my 'construction' video. Note - there is no certainty that it is actually a 'proper' rodin coil! I am just testing these things, and still intend to try different winding styles.
I dunno exactly how much was on the bedini coil because it was scavanged, maybe around 800-1000 winds.
Before I can even understand anything about the workings of Rodin coils, I already wonder about clustering them. So, 2 Rodin coils hooked together, like magician's rings. No effect, bad effect, or even more crazyness? Both will occupy the other's center, at a 90degree angle. Any guesses?
I wonder the same things, but with the Rodin coils I have now I can only try them stacked. In order to have them one inside the other, I would need a MUCH bigger one... or to wind them with the wire sticking to the surface of the toroid, instead of coming out and crossing in the middle area.
Thanks ACG! I'm looking for a tachometer and will absolutely be doing the measurements! In the meantime, I've been trying to see if I can get one to spin so fast it explodes. So far, no blowups.
A megnet go along 180 degree naturally with N S, 90 degree is its break angle. So to form a sphere in geometry, you rotate it 180 degree same axle, 90 degree is its break angle, Perpendicular, I think it's how to open up the dimension.
Force field, can't see it please. buy now sphere megnet me.
YES it will be worth trying the experiment myself I can hardly wait to build a rodin coil. Heres what Im thinking...try setting up a tank circuit like in a tesla coil with the secondary (trigger) coil of the bedini you know a cap and spark gap(or resistor) and magnetically induce a high frequency high voltage response in the rodin coil. Just a wild idea ... :O) carry on
ok, my pulse motor has previously charged a 150V 500UF cap to just under 120volts from a 12 volt source...
The voltage build up in the cap has nothing what soever to do with 'boost' and is completely unrealistic to even imply that you have gained anything...
The addition of the extra coil will significanly increase your curent consumption and the increase in back EMF to the capacitor is caused by their being a second coil thus doubling the curent going into the cap...
Yes - agreed, the winding on the primary coil is rather haphazard. Wondering though, if adding the rodin coil on top of a better wound primary coil would not just make it go higher again?
you are probably quite right - I will need to compare the results with a standard-wind coil that has 210 feet of wire on it, like the rodin coil has. Do you think it would be the same?
Try it with mercury .
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what is the amp draw from the source battery using Bedini coil and Rodin coil? That is what "really" important. Because you know you can adjust the potentiometer "assuming your resistance on the trigger can be vary" of the Bedini circuit and I bet you gonna have those voltage same as Rodin coil.
eidolons01 1 year ago
when useing large "caps" capasitors be VERY aware of polarity i worked in a shop that did aerospace cuircut boards and i have seen a polarity accident with a large cap... THEY EXPLODE!!! PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK YOUR CUIRCUT EVERY TIME YOU TEST A NEW CONFIGURATION. also certain diodes if placed in the wrong polarity will really HEAT UP keep trying :). i am working on a similar marrage of techs, remember energy CAN'T be free, i'm trying for a good return, say 3% in and 90% out.
kzxbsa 1 year ago
I think that the best applications for the rodin coil will arise out of the unique vortex field it generates. The difference between that vortex field and a standard toroid field would be what sets them apart if any economical commercial uses are discovered.
If you were to wind a standard toroid that size with the same inner and outer diameter and then apply high frequency AC I bet the sphere would still spin just as fast. Maybe faster since the toroidal field is more perpendicular.
RLore18 2 years ago
The sphere spins faster as the AC frequency is raised for this reason - during the first half of the cycle the magnet is N pole up and S pole down, then the rodin coil switches its polarity and the magnet is rotated to a N pole down and S pole up position. Since the rodin coil is an air core toroid, it will be capable of very high frequency polarity shifts.
I made my own but I used 28 gauge wire and can only push half an amp through it. XD
RLore18 2 years ago
I loved it when you said, "for a 1" sphere these rpms are insane" hahaha :) I laughed out loud when I read that-great video!
ravensmomscorp76 2 years ago
The rotation speed might be much gigher (maybe tenfold?) if you tilt the whole thing by 90°, so the ball will spin on a vertical axis
Schnelli55 2 years ago
Does your neon lamp have a series resistor built in? It looks like.
It should not have one, otherwise your transistor is in danger of overvoltage
Schnelli55 2 years ago
very cool project you have there, I like your sense of design.
stormcrow70 2 years ago
i love the sound of it once you have the rodin coil on there. I wonder if anyone has ever built a really large rodin coil.. on a nikola tesla like scale of experimentation.
slackologist 2 years ago
im making a 10incher. the toroid is a hollow plastic tube from lowes with an Inner Diameter of 1 1/4th inch. what i plan on doing is placing ferrofluid in side of the toroid. measure its V, A, Fc(centripetal Force) and Ac(centripetal accel.). i also want to test one with water filled to the brim. water with ferro fluid inside. a neo sphere inside and water with a neo shpere inside. all seperate torroids.
TheUFOeffect 2 years ago
Would it be possible to get another metal ball similar to the one insde your bedini, weld it to the top of a small rod, place a circular gear an inch or so underneath the coil, and attach the rod (with ball on the top side of the coil) to the center of the gear that is underneath the coil? Just make sure the height of the ball is in the best possible spot, and boom, you have a motor. If I had the technical experience I'd do it myself, unfortunately I'm more logistically minded than technical
fenderic 2 years ago 3
I'm busy moving right now, but I would like to get a cylinder magnet rotating where the sphere currently is, and have it attached to a rotor. On the end of the rotor I could then attach gear or pulley system, or another cylinder which could spin inside a generator coil.
Many things to test :-)
geminitric 2 years ago
How did you make the Rodin coil?
How long did it take you.
thanks
jackscholze 2 years ago 2
Measuring out the Rodin coil and then doing a few practice 'winds' with string took about 30 minutes. The actual wire winding took probably around 2 hours, maybe less. I recommend doing a good trace and diagram of your toroid, measure out the 10 degree marks of separation along the circumference, and then connect the lines. After a few lines a smaller circle forms in the center - that is the amount of space you'll have to put your wire spool through as you wind! You need a thin spool!
geminitric 2 years ago
Very ineresting and curious.
Where can I find the exact circuit diagram and how everything is connected?
How many winds on the coils and what size are the wires?
thanks
jackscholze
jackscholze 2 years ago
The circuit diagram for this was flashed at the 18 second mark, it is only missing the Rodin coil connection - which is across B1 and B2. The Rodin coil is 24 gauge, 17 complete winds, following the method in my 'construction' video. Note - there is no certainty that it is actually a 'proper' rodin coil! I am just testing these things, and still intend to try different winding styles.
I dunno exactly how much was on the bedini coil because it was scavanged, maybe around 800-1000 winds.
geminitric 2 years ago
Correction: the circuit diagram is at the 18 second mark of the 'generator 100VAC' video, not this '250% boost' vid.
geminitric 2 years ago
that...was insane
fenderic 2 years ago
Before I can even understand anything about the workings of Rodin coils, I already wonder about clustering them. So, 2 Rodin coils hooked together, like magician's rings. No effect, bad effect, or even more crazyness? Both will occupy the other's center, at a 90degree angle. Any guesses?
Cloxxki 2 years ago
I wonder the same things, but with the Rodin coils I have now I can only try them stacked. In order to have them one inside the other, I would need a MUCH bigger one... or to wind them with the wire sticking to the surface of the toroid, instead of coming out and crossing in the middle area.
geminitric 2 years ago
Question: Why the N-Sphere turns and spins approach to extreme?
A) To balance its magnetic field.
B) For balancing due to the superconductor coil approaching zero resistance.
C) To display what megnet is made out for, leap through time-space.
D) Stop fooling around.
cakegy 2 years ago
Got that other world space craft sound to it. Nice work. Get a tacho and try to measure rpm.
Anothercoilgun 2 years ago
Thanks ACG! I'm looking for a tachometer and will absolutely be doing the measurements! In the meantime, I've been trying to see if I can get one to spin so fast it explodes. So far, no blowups.
geminitric 2 years ago
A megnet go along 180 degree naturally with N S, 90 degree is its break angle. So to form a sphere in geometry, you rotate it 180 degree same axle, 90 degree is its break angle, Perpendicular, I think it's how to open up the dimension.
Force field, can't see it please. buy now sphere megnet me.
cakegy 2 years ago
The uniform force of the universe, how friendly and nicely all are placed as one system, big one, deep one, let's watch over again.
cakegy 2 years ago
cakegy - Thank you, that is one interesting comment.
geminitric 2 years ago
Teehee, it sounds like a turbine.
magenpies 2 years ago
you should hear it in person! hehehe
the microphone also generated a weird feedback warble, it's kinda odd.
geminitric 2 years ago
YES it will be worth trying the experiment myself I can hardly wait to build a rodin coil. Heres what Im thinking...try setting up a tank circuit like in a tesla coil with the secondary (trigger) coil of the bedini you know a cap and spark gap(or resistor) and magnetically induce a high frequency high voltage response in the rodin coil. Just a wild idea ... :O) carry on
scooterscottii 2 years ago
hehe thx SS - you're right, a tank circuit and some tesla action could be very interesting! There are so many things I want to experiment with...
geminitric 2 years ago
ok, my pulse motor has previously charged a 150V 500UF cap to just under 120volts from a 12 volt source...
The voltage build up in the cap has nothing what soever to do with 'boost' and is completely unrealistic to even imply that you have gained anything...
The addition of the extra coil will significanly increase your curent consumption and the increase in back EMF to the capacitor is caused by their being a second coil thus doubling the curent going into the cap...
comwarrior69 2 years ago
PS,
A better wound primary coil will see same results...
comwarrior69 2 years ago
Yes - agreed, the winding on the primary coil is rather haphazard. Wondering though, if adding the rodin coil on top of a better wound primary coil would not just make it go higher again?
geminitric 2 years ago
you are probably quite right - I will need to compare the results with a standard-wind coil that has 210 feet of wire on it, like the rodin coil has. Do you think it would be the same?
geminitric 2 years ago