What a waste. These monsters are a 'Thing' of beauty & I will only pay money to see this film when they put the director's original cut on a future dvd release.
I've never understood this obsession with CGI. No film with CGI in it will look timeless, in 6 or 7 years even Avatar will look dated, hell it looks dated all ready.
Take Blade Runner from 1982, they shot the special effects on a tight budget and limited schedule and still it looks glorious to this day, even in HD.
ADI: "Wow we've got a great plan... lets do some really awesome Visual Effects with mechanics and models! That will please the fans of the orginal and also save us money yeah! :D"
*Few Months later* "No fuck it we'll layer the models with CGI that will do the job :D"...... -.-
Why! WHYYY! This film could have been so much better with these effects! The movie did suspense so well, the set was amazing, the characters weren't the greatest but they were good... but then you had these clown-shoes cgi monsters running around and all integrity was lost. If they kept these practical effects the film could have been great. Instead we got this forgettable film with glimpses of greatness and truckloads of disappointment. Fuck the studio that wanted cgi. Fuck them.
I love how all the people regard CGI as some kind of snap-of-the-fingers magic trick. It too is hard work, and many hours are spent in order for it to look believable and natural - just like with these (undoubtedly great) practical effects. Puppets, 3D CGI, hand-drawn animation - all these are just tools to create the illusion, CGI being the most technologically advanced tool. Asking for it to stop is like asking to smash factory robots and start assembling cars with bare hands.
@Nebuchadnezzaurus pretty bad metaphor, considering you just said that CGI takes just as long and is just as hard (where robot car builders are faster and more efficient). but anyways, its an aesthetic thing, and CGI basically doesn't work most of the time. I mean, its literally intergrating animation with live action. older movies have the same problem with opticals and blue screens and stuff. it just never really works, but film industry is too keen on pushing new technology, even crappy ones.
@NotNamedJones well, it's still shaping up, far from its peak, I should imagine. I agree that sometimes practical effects look better and are more called for than CGI. It just pains me to see the hard work of CGI artists regarded as some sort of cheap parlor trick, that's all.
I love the look of the pilot and I thought the effects were generally practical. The end does seem very rushed and ho-hum with a lot of plot errors that aren't addressed (like why Sam doesn't attack Kate through a good portion of time when they are alone) but I was actually pretty okay with most of the things appearances. Even though the tetris cut has more CGI, I felt that most of the monsters got a good ADI treatment, you can even feel the "Alien" inspiration inherent in the design choices.
I can't believe they let this hard work go to waste! Just shows how much is wrong with the movie industry today. The only "good" thing is that pretty much everyone - like or hate the movie - things the CGI effects are absolutely AWFUL! Some small vindication for these folks and the director, who had his movie ruined largely by interfering "suits" who had no idea what looked good onscreen. Sad, sad, outcome, though; you can tell these guys really wanted to make a worthy Thing movie, too.
I wonder if the music could be any more jarring or annoying. Maybe we could release an ass-hat "director's cut" of this video with a couple more orchestra stabs and "jump-scare" cues on the already annoying score. Other than that, it's alright.
@amgr34umr the CGI was great only really bad cgi in the movie was the Sander Thing and even the director did not like it. However the practical would have been even more better at least that´s what I think. But a huge dissapointment. no not at all however i would call it a mistake not allowing the director to complete what he started.
@DarkdustDragon I could not have said it better myself! Unfort Sander-THing was the replacment för "the-alien-pilot" AND "Sander/alien/pilot. Universal did not think it was scary enough so they demanded something else. Sander-Thing was and looks rushed at least for as you say the face cause it looks photoshoped and the director doesnt even like that shot Damn Universal :(
@TheThingPrequel The pilot cut is I think the result of a scene deletion that was part of a larger script shortening (quite a bit seems to have been cut; this film could have easily ended up 3 hours long!) Sander-Thing does fill his place logically, and does hang around longer, but I would have at least liked to see him get Carter (since that's really the only time he could have been infected). As for the face... I like the design, but better execution was warranted.
@Xenomorphism I think that's the case for Sander-Thing as well, the human face it wears before that explodes is real. How much of the alien face underneath is real I dunno, but at least the design is nightmarish. Griggs looks like the Thing got too tired to hold his face together in the final cut of the movie.
I agree, I thing ADI amazing practical effects needed little in the way of CG enhancement, In fact when I saw the movie in theaters I honestly couldn't tell that there were ANY practical effects to speak of except for in a very few scenes.
To all you guys and gals who love these practical effects, there is a petition at petition buzz .com to try and persuade Universal to re-release The Thing (2011) with practical effects restored. Please go sign it. If we fans are loud and vocal enough we can make this happen! We have power in numbers as fans of The Thing, so let's use it!!!
hay I just saw this vid above, but I dont see any post about the end where there looks like the alien (not the thing?) in the ship effect (model) any tought's or idea on that?
I like this movie, I think that using both was a good job! When the thing 1982 came out it was put down, but over time the thing movie had afan club that followed this movie will have the same effect on most!
so....Universal...what was the reason for you 'demanding' awful CGI effects instead of keeping the real ART of these practical effects? any reason at all??...no?? thought not.......thanks for letting this movie down instead of not letting it become a classic and spawning the return of REAL looking effects in movies. Universal used to push film making boundries. now they bury them.
@BrothaPriah Go to petition buzz .com/ thething no spaces,obviously and sign the petition to have Universal rerelease this movie with practical effects restored
LOL the people who think this stuff wasn't used obviously didn't watch the movie. Most all of these were used in combination with the computer graphics..WAH WAH that crappy CGI is actually the practical effects your dogging on as well.
I agree with all of you, this work is superb and it had to be ruined with digital effects. Its one case where hollywood had to get in the way of old fashioned elbow grease!!!
It's very very sad to see that all these cool special effects were wasted. Despite all the negative press I liked The Thing (2011) but there's no getting away from the fact that the CGI let it down big time. I'd be very interested to know why these were abandoned in favour of some early 2000's video game looking shit FX instead. And what happened to all those models? I'd love to get me hands on those robotic legs..
@BaronVonPenguin petition buzz .com/the thing, no spaces, sign the petition to have this film re-released with it's practical effects restored! Thing fans, ASSEMBLE!!!!!
WHat the stupid fuckers in Holywood don't understand is that CGI will NEVER look real and organic to human eye. You can clearly tell if something is CGI most of the time and it is never as scary as something organic as this
@OrdoMallius Exactly. So go to petiotion buzz .com/ thething, no spaces and put your name on the petition to get Universal to re-release this film with its practical effects restored. Let's not just bitch about this and try to DO SOMETHING about it!!! Every single fan has the power if we make our voices heard!!! Thing fans, ASSEMBLE!!!
If we ever see a directors cut version that (if we're lucky) uses some of these practical effects, & has good extras that can rival "The Thing Takes Shape" & separate audio commentaries from the director and the ADI guys, then that's a SURE buy.
...but it's just not very likely.
Instead, I'll probably just get the DVD or BLURAY once it goes on sale, but in its current form it's just not worth a full price purchase.
...not that it was COMPLETELY terrible...but it just didn't deliver the goods.
@MrSokurah petition buzz .com/ thething (no spaces) to try and get Universal to rerelease the film w/ practical effects resatored. Let's make this happen people! We as fans have the power, if we work together!
Woooooow. i thought a ton of these were GD in the movie. How upsetting it must be for the artists who made these woderful things to know it got raped by post-production CG. Still, the movie was great, and now I can vouch for it even more.
These effects look incredible! Why did they have to take a bath in CGI trash in post production?! I bet John would have loved this, had they kept the practical effects intact without CGI. :(
Wow! incredible support from all of you! we posted this for you and our crew who worked hard and on a short sched. i know we're fans of practical work, but having worked with lots of talented peeps on this film, i'm sorry to see ad hominem attacks on the director and the folks at Image Engine. To a person we all wanted this film to be a worthy companion to JC's film. IE does great work. It comes down to stylistic choices. These days choices are not always within our control. Love the passion!
I am a John Carpenter fanboy and as many like myself I hold the original work by Bottin in the highest regard.The practical effects in this movie were actually outstanding and a fitting homage to Bottin's work IMO. I hate to say it but I think that the main issue I had was with the CGI and CG work done after on the practical effects. I'd love to see a version of this movie with nothing but practical effects because I honestly think it would have been better. Still a fine movie though...
In my honest opinion, it doesn't matter if they used animatronics/costumes or CGI. I thought the CGI was fine and the movie, to me, payed it's respects to the JC film and I enjoyed it.
PETITION FOR THE PRACTICAL EFFECT VERSION, please sign it ! It just take two seconds ! w w w . petitionbuzz . com / petitions / thething ( without space at the beginning )
Haven't seen the movie yet, doubt it'll top the '82 one, but damn these physical effects look sweet! If anything else, a lot of talented people did amazing work here. And I'm usually not a fan of Tom Woodruff or Alec Gillis' work.
It's such a shame that despite these amazing animatronic puppets, that look so real here, they didn't look nearly as good in the movie. I'm guessing it has to do with the fact that they 'enhanced' the effects by adding CG on top, and ultimately because of bad directing. What a shame.
where does the director get off removing these effects, this movie could have been as memorable as the original maybe more! but they did, it they just put cgi in for everything, I'm going to stop watching movies . . . . .
CGI also ruins the story: The alien creature assimilates human and hide among them and carry on with the process secretly. They do so because the assimilation process is somewhat clumsy and time-consuming. This makes the creature vulerable to attack. Now with the creature moving so fast, spikes and claws flying fluidly under CGI rendition, they can literally kill everyone in sight before anyone can grab any weapon. This makes you question, what was the point of hidding in the first place?
They should never hired image engine for the cgi creation because it looks unnatural. Rob bottin and stan winston old timers would have done it right. Good animatronics can't be beat. The griggs thing in this clip looks very real compared to the film. The thing 2011 would have been much more intense without the fake CGI. Keep it where it belongs in video games and not in movies!
This looked 100X better than that shitty CGI!! Damnit the practical Griggs thing was badass. This movie would have been great if it wasn't for the over-use of CGI.
@timjones066 NO KIDING!!!!!!!! If only they gave us the option to choose between CG and Animetronic costums like the earlier one, back in the late 1900's. Why build these costums, props and animetronics, if most if not all of them are not used in the theatrical verssion; to me it is a waste of time and monie, unles they give us the option on the DVD relieses!!
@Vaderghost20 petition buzz .com/thething, no spaces, if you want to add your signature to petition Universal for a re-release of the film w/ practical effects. And yes, it was a GIANT WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY, WASN'T IT? (Yes, I'm yelling!)
@KnukDogg The Pilot appears in the Eric Moore script that was floating around a while back. I think It would have made for a better ending than what we saw in the theatre release. Especially after seeing this clip. Perhaps we'll get to see it as an alternate ending on a DVD release.
Guys, lets just be happy that we know what happened at the Norwegian camp. look at the first Spiderman movies CGi. This is GOOD compared to that! and i dont remember the Pilot monster, he looks awsome.
Wikipedia can only be half trusted. Just use your eyes. The monsters look too shiny, the textures are off. Also note the lack of gore, there is no dripping blood or ooze like in the 82 original.
@LaccaTony I'll just quote your earlier comment: "You are suprised because you are a dumbass. The 2011 premake is all CGI. These effects were never used." You made it sound like there were no animatronics used at all. The shot at 3:04 was used, then they added the tentacles in CG, and had more post production on the footage itself.
@hippl5 Lol, that scene on the helecopter was one of the worst CGI effects in the movie. When his face split it looked like it was done with Microsoft Paint. The practical effect was not used. The only reason I posted in the first place was because you thought all of the effects were practical. Your quote, "It's funny to watch people bitch about CG when it's actually sculpted puppets, which surprised me." If you can't tell by looking, then you're hopeless.
@LaccaTony And how exactly is the CGI in this movie terrible? What's so bad about it? What do you consider good CG? What about the double from tron? 1:05 here: /watch?v=-m1HaFKEm5A&feature=related
@hippl5 Why would you even care if I thought the CGI in this movie was bad? You couldn't even tell that it was CGI in the first place. I am not going to give you good examples of CGI, it would be pointless.
From wiki: "Computer Graphics were used to digitally create extensions on some of the practical animatronic effects, as well as for digital matte paintings and set extensions" There's a source to it too. So I don't know why one of you fucks gave me shit saying it's all CG. The guy who said they added CG on top of the animatronics was right.
I think they did use some of the stuff, they then just added CGI over the Top, Such as the Thing they torched in the kitchen.
I did find the split face seemed to be all CGI, and the Helicopter Thing, however in this video the work they did on the animatronic versions looked much better and shame they never seemed to be used.
Also i dont recall the Thing Pilot at the end of this video being in the fllm, well not the effects in this video.
@BanjoKiD2K there are two shots (in the kitchen, directly after the thing spots carter) in which they used practical effects. one of it immediately as it is torched by kate and the other as it moves through the shelves. cgi was added over each of these (only the forelimbs, though). the rest was practical.
i feel as though the kitchen thing would have been just fine without cgi. it had a fake, vibrant look to it when it was being burned.
It's actually this video that made me watch both this and the 1980's version of the movie. I'm surprised at all the reviews blasting this movie. Sure the characters felt empty, but it's a decent-good movie. It's funny to watch people bitch about CG when it's actually sculpted puppets, which surprised me.
@hippl5 You are suprised because you are a dumbass. The 2011 premake is all CGI. These effects were never used. The fact that you cannot tell the difference between this and the videogame crap used in the movie means that your opinion on said movie is useless.
@LaccaTony You're telling me, that the puppet at 0:24 , which specifically has the green paper on it, was never used? They made it just for the hell of it? Fuck I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
Everybody! There's a link to a petition on The Thing Prequel's Facebook! The petition is to have a practical effects version of this movie released. Everybody sign that thing!!!
@pootman17 I've got 59 people over on the Advancement of Dynamation Harryhausen esque special FX who'll sign it. Peoplr from Oscar nominated Mark Sullivan (Matte artist on Lord of the rings.) To Richard Kent Burton ( Animator on Honey I shrunk the kids and James and the giant peach.) and Said Faraj the actor. oh by the way The new Sinbad movie is using state of the art stop-motion to generate the monsters. NOT CGI.
Why in the HELL weren't these used in the final movie as INTENDED!!! I loved the movie but I was disappointed seeing most of it was CG. Like Split face and Juliette. All those talented make-up artist and designers wasted time and great ideas just to be replaced with CGI :(.
You want to know why classic movies like Jaws, Alien, and the original Thing were such big hits with special effects? It was awesome directing. Whether its animatronics or a man in a rubber suit, super talented directing is needed to pull it off and create memorable scenes. CGI is a cop out for less talented directors who would rather get the biggest bang for the buck rather than find inventive ways to compliment a real life piece of artistic horror for the audience. NUFF SED!
@amgr34umr The problem is that if puppets are used, people will still complain and make rants like 'they should have stuck to CGI' or 'hey! it looks terrible CGI would have been better'.
@amgr34umr Example: Micheal Bay: Transformers 2 and 3. Who needs a compelling/riveting/sensible story when you've got explosions/CG/Hot girls who can't act their way out of a paper bag
It's not the tool but how you use it.While CGI is often overused that doesn't mean it's automatically a cop out tool. Just look at Jurassic Park, Avatar, and Peter Jackson's LoTR and Kind Kong.
@amgr34umr I agree with what you say about CGI. Imagine if in this movie they used all of those practical effects with a bit of CG instead of just covering it all in layers of computer animation. The monsters would have been terrifying in comparison.
@TheThingPrequel I am. Every single one of those scenes had a perfectly good practical effect built for it. I am not bashing CGI altogether, but why use it when you can build something 10 times better that the audience will appreciate and then toss it because you feel like it is too difficult to shoot. Use CGI for the impossible stuff, not the difficult stuff.
@amgr34umr Well then let me inform you that Matthijs had every intention possible making this as practical as possible. The movie was shown to the studio in all it´s glory with what u see above. WHich is pretty much 90% practical&10%CGI.The STUDIO did not like it they thought the creatures were not scary enough or moved to slow. they demanded CGI & re-shots to make it look more scary and fastpaced. So no don´t blame the director his intention was awesome the studio fuckit up NOT the director.
Man all that work creating the alien pilot and they didn't even put it into the final movie! They could have saved that idea; Sanders the large "final boss" Thing at the end could have absorbed the pilot which would explain clearly why he was so big!
Is it just me of near the end of the film did it start to look more "Substantial" and "purposeful" more like a whole being than an amalgam. Maybe it was just trying to reform it's self? I can kinda sympathies with it, it was obviously shit scared, and just wanted to get home it seems. And after the ship was destroyed it didn't even want that, only to live, the last one didn't even transform or try to defend it's self, just pleaded for it's life.
@lolzomgz1337 Also, in the second movie the humans struck first, it probably saw the dogs as a threat, and the one with the mutated hands just keeled down in the snow, it could have easily produced a tentacle or something, but it just didn't, peace offering? :'( poor Thing.
both practical effects and CGI have their upsides and downsides.
both of these methods only work when done well.
that said, CGI tends to be overused in films nowadays. it's a fantastic tool that can give a movie a distinct style (Sin City, Speed Racer, 300, etc.) and do things practical effects just can't (Jurassic Park, Transformers, etc.)
tl;dr
there's room for both practical and digital effects in films, but CGI tends to be overused lately.
@IaMaPh1991 It wasn't in the film, I think it was intended to be it's "true" form, by "pilot" I think they mean pilot of it's spacecraft...also it kinda looks like the thing in the ice.
@lolzomgz1337 How does it look like the thing in the ice? The pilot has long mantis like arms tipped with hands, 3 eyes, a tube-thing under it's jaw and it's bipedal . The ice block thing had multiple scythe-like limbs, a mouth on it's chest, and a beak mouth.
Whoever... made the decision... to draw fucking CG over that... deserves to be tortured in a basement for a year, starved, mutilated, castrated, raped, pour acid in his eyes, cut his tongue off and force feed him salt and for the grand finale run him over slowly with a nice bone crushing steamroller!!!
the original is the only film i have ever seen that has scared me, and i watch a lot of horror, cant explain why this had such an effect on me, i thought watching this would help cos its all the make up, nope still creepy
What a waste. These monsters are a 'Thing' of beauty & I will only pay money to see this film when they put the director's original cut on a future dvd release.
jamieleng 9 hours ago
I've never understood this obsession with CGI. No film with CGI in it will look timeless, in 6 or 7 years even Avatar will look dated, hell it looks dated all ready.
Take Blade Runner from 1982, they shot the special effects on a tight budget and limited schedule and still it looks glorious to this day, even in HD.
There isn't any movie magic any longer.
Massivecarcrash 23 hours ago
ADI: "Wow we've got a great plan... lets do some really awesome Visual Effects with mechanics and models! That will please the fans of the orginal and also save us money yeah! :D"
*Few Months later* "No fuck it we'll layer the models with CGI that will do the job :D"...... -.-
R.I.P Good Film-making.
MultipleInsurgents 1 day ago
It sucks the final film turned out to be crappy CGI.
GhostVenom051 1 day ago
Please tell me the practical effects will appear as a special features version on the DVD!
BadLactose 3 days ago
Reeeeeaaallllly great work, guys...
antimax 4 days ago
Accursed studios.
zillamaster55 4 days ago
Why! WHYYY! This film could have been so much better with these effects! The movie did suspense so well, the set was amazing, the characters weren't the greatest but they were good... but then you had these clown-shoes cgi monsters running around and all integrity was lost. If they kept these practical effects the film could have been great. Instead we got this forgettable film with glimpses of greatness and truckloads of disappointment. Fuck the studio that wanted cgi. Fuck them.
splitsticks 4 days ago
I love how all the people regard CGI as some kind of snap-of-the-fingers magic trick. It too is hard work, and many hours are spent in order for it to look believable and natural - just like with these (undoubtedly great) practical effects. Puppets, 3D CGI, hand-drawn animation - all these are just tools to create the illusion, CGI being the most technologically advanced tool. Asking for it to stop is like asking to smash factory robots and start assembling cars with bare hands.
Nebuchadnezzaurus 5 days ago in playlist Favorite videos
@Nebuchadnezzaurus pretty bad metaphor, considering you just said that CGI takes just as long and is just as hard (where robot car builders are faster and more efficient). but anyways, its an aesthetic thing, and CGI basically doesn't work most of the time. I mean, its literally intergrating animation with live action. older movies have the same problem with opticals and blue screens and stuff. it just never really works, but film industry is too keen on pushing new technology, even crappy ones.
NotNamedJones 3 days ago
@NotNamedJones well, it's still shaping up, far from its peak, I should imagine. I agree that sometimes practical effects look better and are more called for than CGI. It just pains me to see the hard work of CGI artists regarded as some sort of cheap parlor trick, that's all.
Nebuchadnezzaurus 2 days ago
Damn. All these beautifully horrific pieces of work were made & then completely replaced with CGI. What a fucking waste. >_>
JigokuHana 5 days ago
4:22 I see that you like Pepsi too >:3
HotWheels438 5 days ago
These effects are incredible. Which retard replaced them with CGI?
neongoldenx 6 days ago
I love the look of the pilot and I thought the effects were generally practical. The end does seem very rushed and ho-hum with a lot of plot errors that aren't addressed (like why Sam doesn't attack Kate through a good portion of time when they are alone) but I was actually pretty okay with most of the things appearances. Even though the tetris cut has more CGI, I felt that most of the monsters got a good ADI treatment, you can even feel the "Alien" inspiration inherent in the design choices.
Xenomorphism 1 week ago
Are they going to release a directors cut which will actually have real special effects?
Pyrosis22 1 week ago
That looks great. Why destroy it with CGI??? That could have been so awesome without all the coumputer fake effects.
McM2000 1 week ago
The only interesting point would have been the Pilot.
Khultan 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I can't believe they let this hard work go to waste! Just shows how much is wrong with the movie industry today. The only "good" thing is that pretty much everyone - like or hate the movie - things the CGI effects are absolutely AWFUL! Some small vindication for these folks and the director, who had his movie ruined largely by interfering "suits" who had no idea what looked good onscreen. Sad, sad, outcome, though; you can tell these guys really wanted to make a worthy Thing movie, too.
BanjoOz 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
I wonder if the music could be any more jarring or annoying. Maybe we could release an ass-hat "director's cut" of this video with a couple more orchestra stabs and "jump-scare" cues on the already annoying score. Other than that, it's alright.
FrIgHtNiGhT71 1 week ago
2:56 reminds me of my ex girlfriend
blueluny 1 week ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Wish they'd shown the scene with the "Pilot" =(
potsmokindino 1 week ago
all you people complain this shit looks good no mater what it LOOKS REAL
ChainofGreed27 1 week ago
@ChainofGreed27 You are a moron if you can call CGI "looking real"...and the final movie was a huge disappointment in terms of effects.
amgr34umr 1 week ago
@amgr34umr the CGI was great only really bad cgi in the movie was the Sander Thing and even the director did not like it. However the practical would have been even more better at least that´s what I think. But a huge dissapointment. no not at all however i would call it a mistake not allowing the director to complete what he started.
TheThingPrequel 1 week ago
@TheThingPrequel The Sander-Thing was meh, not horrible but could have been way better. The worst of the CGI is Grigg`s face-splitting...
DarkdustDragon 1 week ago
@DarkdustDragon I could not have said it better myself! Unfort Sander-THing was the replacment för "the-alien-pilot" AND "Sander/alien/pilot. Universal did not think it was scary enough so they demanded something else. Sander-Thing was and looks rushed at least for as you say the face cause it looks photoshoped and the director doesnt even like that shot Damn Universal :(
TheThingPrequel 1 week ago
@TheThingPrequel The pilot cut is I think the result of a scene deletion that was part of a larger script shortening (quite a bit seems to have been cut; this film could have easily ended up 3 hours long!) Sander-Thing does fill his place logically, and does hang around longer, but I would have at least liked to see him get Carter (since that's really the only time he could have been infected). As for the face... I like the design, but better execution was warranted.
DarkdustDragon 1 week ago
@DarkdustDragon
I thought sanders CGI face was way worse. I think griggs had a combination CGI/practical but the initial split is very CGI-wonky.
Xenomorphism 1 week ago
@Xenomorphism I think that's the case for Sander-Thing as well, the human face it wears before that explodes is real. How much of the alien face underneath is real I dunno, but at least the design is nightmarish. Griggs looks like the Thing got too tired to hold his face together in the final cut of the movie.
DarkdustDragon 1 week ago
I agree, I thing ADI amazing practical effects needed little in the way of CG enhancement, In fact when I saw the movie in theaters I honestly couldn't tell that there were ANY practical effects to speak of except for in a very few scenes.
artminionandrew 1 week ago
Good movie. Not as good as the original. But nonetheless it was a pretty entertaining movie
beninkster23 2 weeks ago
Awesome~!!!
ByBossTH 2 weeks ago
We all can bitch about CGI but unfortunately it doesn't seem to be going away. I'm not a fan of it as well.
TheRedLiquor 2 weeks ago
That split face looks AMAZING. The way it's moving is a million times more disturbing than the CGI that they went with. What a horrible decision!!
jntipton 2 weeks ago
WAIT....WHERE IS HTE PILOT IN THE FILM?!?!?!?!
ChaseTheDove16 2 weeks ago
did they really waste all this craftsmanship? what a shame…
AUG0S 2 weeks ago
The original was the best
auramaster543 2 weeks ago
To all you guys and gals who love these practical effects, there is a petition at petition buzz .com to try and persuade Universal to re-release The Thing (2011) with practical effects restored. Please go sign it. If we fans are loud and vocal enough we can make this happen! We have power in numbers as fans of The Thing, so let's use it!!!
BWHennig 2 weeks ago
hay I just saw this vid above, but I dont see any post about the end where there looks like the alien (not the thing?) in the ship effect (model) any tought's or idea on that?
THEEND123321 2 weeks ago
@THEEND123321 You mean the pilot of the space craft?
BWHennig 2 weeks ago
@BWHennig yep! that it! the pilot of the space craft!
THEEND123321 2 weeks ago
I like this movie, I think that using both was a good job! When the thing 1982 came out it was put down, but over time the thing movie had afan club that followed this movie will have the same effect on most!
THEEND123321 2 weeks ago
so....Universal...what was the reason for you 'demanding' awful CGI effects instead of keeping the real ART of these practical effects? any reason at all??...no?? thought not.......thanks for letting this movie down instead of not letting it become a classic and spawning the return of REAL looking effects in movies. Universal used to push film making boundries. now they bury them.
BrothaPriah 2 weeks ago
@BrothaPriah Go to petition buzz .com/ thething no spaces,obviously and sign the petition to have Universal rerelease this movie with practical effects restored
BWHennig 2 weeks ago
@BWHennig Actually it's petition buzz. com/ petitions / thething, no spaces.
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baisansai 2 weeks ago
LOL the people who think this stuff wasn't used obviously didn't watch the movie. Most all of these were used in combination with the computer graphics..WAH WAH that crappy CGI is actually the practical effects your dogging on as well.
SEGAHOLIC 2 weeks ago
@SEGAHOLIC finnaly someone actully knows what theyer talking about
recon12100 2 weeks ago 4
@recon12100 i think the only practical effects they actually used were the guts for the autopsy....i could be wrong but im pretty sure...
BrothaPriah 2 weeks ago
@SEGAHOLIC What? All the practical things are painted over. Which movie did you see?
BWHennig 2 weeks ago
@SEGAHOLIC
well, ofc *some* of the practical shots were used, but all of the "hero" stuff was completely replaced.
xalener 1 week ago
Pity.
ElleRoni 3 weeks ago
See, now, THIS is the sort of thing I want to do with my life! DAMN!
atTheTomFace 3 weeks ago
I agree with all of you, this work is superb and it had to be ruined with digital effects. Its one case where hollywood had to get in the way of old fashioned elbow grease!!!
petrucciphan 3 weeks ago
It's very very sad to see that all these cool special effects were wasted. Despite all the negative press I liked The Thing (2011) but there's no getting away from the fact that the CGI let it down big time. I'd be very interested to know why these were abandoned in favour of some early 2000's video game looking shit FX instead. And what happened to all those models? I'd love to get me hands on those robotic legs..
BaronVonPenguin 3 weeks ago
@BaronVonPenguin petition buzz .com/the thing, no spaces, sign the petition to have this film re-released with it's practical effects restored! Thing fans, ASSEMBLE!!!!!
BWHennig 2 weeks ago
WHat the stupid fuckers in Holywood don't understand is that CGI will NEVER look real and organic to human eye. You can clearly tell if something is CGI most of the time and it is never as scary as something organic as this
OrdoMallius 3 weeks ago
@OrdoMallius Exactly. So go to petiotion buzz .com/ thething, no spaces and put your name on the petition to get Universal to re-release this film with its practical effects restored. Let's not just bitch about this and try to DO SOMETHING about it!!! Every single fan has the power if we make our voices heard!!! Thing fans, ASSEMBLE!!!
BWHennig 2 weeks ago
This is amazing. What am I doing with my life?
iruiz06 3 weeks ago
If we ever see a directors cut version that (if we're lucky) uses some of these practical effects, & has good extras that can rival "The Thing Takes Shape" & separate audio commentaries from the director and the ADI guys, then that's a SURE buy.
...but it's just not very likely.
Instead, I'll probably just get the DVD or BLURAY once it goes on sale, but in its current form it's just not worth a full price purchase.
...not that it was COMPLETELY terrible...but it just didn't deliver the goods.
MrSokurah 3 weeks ago
@MrSokurah petition buzz .com/ thething (no spaces) to try and get Universal to rerelease the film w/ practical effects resatored. Let's make this happen people! We as fans have the power, if we work together!
BWHennig 2 weeks ago
@BWHennig Oops! restored.
BWHennig 2 weeks ago
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Wow I wasn't even bothered by the CG in the movie but the models and stuff looked fucking great what a waste
MrAddacat 3 weeks ago
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MrAddacat 3 weeks ago
Woooooow. i thought a ton of these were GD in the movie. How upsetting it must be for the artists who made these woderful things to know it got raped by post-production CG. Still, the movie was great, and now I can vouch for it even more.
CocoMunky 3 weeks ago
This movie is excellent in my opinion.
963852art 3 weeks ago
Shame the movie didn't use practical effects.. Really liked the thing at the end.
Psychkemia 3 weeks ago
These effects look incredible! Why did they have to take a bath in CGI trash in post production?! I bet John would have loved this, had they kept the practical effects intact without CGI. :(
thEannoyingE 3 weeks ago
Wow! incredible support from all of you! we posted this for you and our crew who worked hard and on a short sched. i know we're fans of practical work, but having worked with lots of talented peeps on this film, i'm sorry to see ad hominem attacks on the director and the folks at Image Engine. To a person we all wanted this film to be a worthy companion to JC's film. IE does great work. It comes down to stylistic choices. These days choices are not always within our control. Love the passion!
TheAlecGillis 3 weeks ago
I am a John Carpenter fanboy and as many like myself I hold the original work by Bottin in the highest regard.The practical effects in this movie were actually outstanding and a fitting homage to Bottin's work IMO. I hate to say it but I think that the main issue I had was with the CGI and CG work done after on the practical effects. I'd love to see a version of this movie with nothing but practical effects because I honestly think it would have been better. Still a fine movie though...
Feydakin8 3 weeks ago
I like this film granted it's not the Carpenter version, but it's not horrible.
invadermarkb 3 weeks ago
1:40 Could use that as a rape sex doll... practise
Orbinson98 3 weeks ago
they make it so real
586armon 3 weeks ago
these are really cool alot of these came across as cg in the film though, strange
YOYOdaMOOSE 3 weeks ago
In my honest opinion, it doesn't matter if they used animatronics/costumes or CGI. I thought the CGI was fine and the movie, to me, payed it's respects to the JC film and I enjoyed it.
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PETITION FOR THE PRACTICAL EFFECT VERSION, please sign it ! It just take two seconds ! w w w . petitionbuzz . com / petitions / thething ( without space at the beginning )
Scratshouille 4 weeks ago
o my god!!!
guilhermepoi 4 weeks ago
Shame for all this hard work to go to waste with the final version looking like terrible CGI, not this great practical work.
leebearlondonlee 4 weeks ago 26
This is really impressive.
NIGHTMARECRIPT 4 weeks ago
3:36 Boob.
BoreDTempesT 4 weeks ago
This is AWESOME!
Stardustchild01 4 weeks ago
fucking hell you know right away that its "The Thing"....
MarcusMcCabe 4 weeks ago
so much work that never made it to the final product lol
isfunnykeke 4 weeks ago
Haven't seen the movie yet, doubt it'll top the '82 one, but damn these physical effects look sweet! If anything else, a lot of talented people did amazing work here. And I'm usually not a fan of Tom Woodruff or Alec Gillis' work.
DropkickLar 4 weeks ago
i can`t stop laughing when i see the guy from dumb and dumber :))
tensor471 4 weeks ago
2012 likes and no more please :D
morderca95 4 weeks ago
It's such a shame that despite these amazing animatronic puppets, that look so real here, they didn't look nearly as good in the movie. I'm guessing it has to do with the fact that they 'enhanced' the effects by adding CG on top, and ultimately because of bad directing. What a shame.
DathVada 1 month ago
where does the director get off removing these effects, this movie could have been as memorable as the original maybe more! but they did, it they just put cgi in for everything, I'm going to stop watching movies . . . . .
dismemberednecromorf 1 month ago
@dismemberednecromorf
Blame the studio and test audiences for the cgi.
The director wanted to be faithful to the animatronics.
Xerxus 4 weeks ago
@Xerxus ah I see
dismemberednecromorf 4 weeks ago
Oh ok.
KnukDogg 1 month ago
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CGI also ruins the story: The alien creature assimilates human and hide among them and carry on with the process secretly. They do so because the assimilation process is somewhat clumsy and time-consuming. This makes the creature vulerable to attack. Now with the creature moving so fast, spikes and claws flying fluidly under CGI rendition, they can literally kill everyone in sight before anyone can grab any weapon. This makes you question, what was the point of hidding in the first place?
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BenSteenbeck 1 month ago
1:38 QWOP gone awry.
kikyo4815 1 month ago
They should never hired image engine for the cgi creation because it looks unnatural. Rob bottin and stan winston old timers would have done it right. Good animatronics can't be beat. The griggs thing in this clip looks very real compared to the film. The thing 2011 would have been much more intense without the fake CGI. Keep it where it belongs in video games and not in movies!
valdi9165 1 month ago 2
This looked 100X better than that shitty CGI!! Damnit the practical Griggs thing was badass. This movie would have been great if it wasn't for the over-use of CGI.
timjones066 1 month ago 19
@timjones066 this movie and his visual effects were awesome. If u use only robots thats will look like chiken robot
saverne06 3 weeks ago
@timjones066 NO KIDING!!!!!!!! If only they gave us the option to choose between CG and Animetronic costums like the earlier one, back in the late 1900's. Why build these costums, props and animetronics, if most if not all of them are not used in the theatrical verssion; to me it is a waste of time and monie, unles they give us the option on the DVD relieses!!
Vaderghost20 2 weeks ago
@Vaderghost20 petition buzz .com/thething, no spaces, if you want to add your signature to petition Universal for a re-release of the film w/ practical effects. And yes, it was a GIANT WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY, WASN'T IT? (Yes, I'm yelling!)
BWHennig 2 weeks ago
@BWHennig - tried your link and it's not working
jntipton 2 weeks ago
When did the pilot appear in the movie? I don't remember seeing that scene at all!!!!!!!!!!
KnukDogg 1 month ago
@KnukDogg The Pilot appears in the Eric Moore script that was floating around a while back. I think It would have made for a better ending than what we saw in the theatre release. Especially after seeing this clip. Perhaps we'll get to see it as an alternate ending on a DVD release.
wmrbeach94 1 month ago
Look at the comic-con footage and this video. Producers ruined the movie... it was going to be great but unnecesary CGI came to be...
Benishe 1 month ago
Guys, lets just be happy that we know what happened at the Norwegian camp. look at the first Spiderman movies CGi. This is GOOD compared to that! and i dont remember the Pilot monster, he looks awsome.
FireheartZX 1 month ago
Yeah, this video just makes me more upset at the fact that the movie coated all this talented work with shitty CG effects.
peterregiel 1 month ago
Wikipedia can only be half trusted. Just use your eyes. The monsters look too shiny, the textures are off. Also note the lack of gore, there is no dripping blood or ooze like in the 82 original.
LaccaTony 1 month ago
@LaccaTony I'll just quote your earlier comment: "You are suprised because you are a dumbass. The 2011 premake is all CGI. These effects were never used." You made it sound like there were no animatronics used at all. The shot at 3:04 was used, then they added the tentacles in CG, and had more post production on the footage itself.
hippl5 1 month ago
@hippl5 Lol, that scene on the helecopter was one of the worst CGI effects in the movie. When his face split it looked like it was done with Microsoft Paint. The practical effect was not used. The only reason I posted in the first place was because you thought all of the effects were practical. Your quote, "It's funny to watch people bitch about CG when it's actually sculpted puppets, which surprised me." If you can't tell by looking, then you're hopeless.
LaccaTony 1 month ago
@LaccaTony And how exactly is the CGI in this movie terrible? What's so bad about it? What do you consider good CG? What about the double from tron? 1:05 here: /watch?v=-m1HaFKEm5A&feature=related
Example of bad cg? - /watch?v=yysbbPStfWw
hippl5 1 month ago
@hippl5 Why would you even care if I thought the CGI in this movie was bad? You couldn't even tell that it was CGI in the first place. I am not going to give you good examples of CGI, it would be pointless.
LaccaTony 1 month ago
From wiki: "Computer Graphics were used to digitally create extensions on some of the practical animatronic effects, as well as for digital matte paintings and set extensions" There's a source to it too. So I don't know why one of you fucks gave me shit saying it's all CG. The guy who said they added CG on top of the animatronics was right.
hippl5 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
Imagine xenomorphs ( alien ) vs. The Thing vs. The Flood ( halo ) vs. Necromorphs ( dead space ). Just... Imagine.
toothless6reach 1 month ago
I think they did use some of the stuff, they then just added CGI over the Top, Such as the Thing they torched in the kitchen.
I did find the split face seemed to be all CGI, and the Helicopter Thing, however in this video the work they did on the animatronic versions looked much better and shame they never seemed to be used.
Also i dont recall the Thing Pilot at the end of this video being in the fllm, well not the effects in this video.
BanjoKiD2K 1 month ago
@BanjoKiD2K there are two shots (in the kitchen, directly after the thing spots carter) in which they used practical effects. one of it immediately as it is torched by kate and the other as it moves through the shelves. cgi was added over each of these (only the forelimbs, though). the rest was practical.
i feel as though the kitchen thing would have been just fine without cgi. it had a fake, vibrant look to it when it was being burned.
RednessAlpha 1 month ago
Maybe we at war with Universal?
bubulovesgrosminet 1 month ago
They really should make a Dead Space movie...
bakalen 1 month ago
It's actually this video that made me watch both this and the 1980's version of the movie. I'm surprised at all the reviews blasting this movie. Sure the characters felt empty, but it's a decent-good movie. It's funny to watch people bitch about CG when it's actually sculpted puppets, which surprised me.
hippl5 1 month ago in playlist Liked videos
@hippl5 You are suprised because you are a dumbass. The 2011 premake is all CGI. These effects were never used. The fact that you cannot tell the difference between this and the videogame crap used in the movie means that your opinion on said movie is useless.
LaccaTony 1 month ago
@LaccaTony You're telling me, that the puppet at 0:24 , which specifically has the green paper on it, was never used? They made it just for the hell of it? Fuck I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or not.
hippl5 1 month ago
@hippl5 I am never sarcastic. The puppet was made, and it looked amazing. It was then covered with CGI, that made it look like shit.
LaccaTony 1 month ago
Pilot? (4:15)
I don't see it in the film. Where is?
Boris96100 1 month ago
@Boris96100 never made the final cut
RednessAlpha 1 month ago
Folks, you can find that petition just by Googling 'The Thing petition' too. It's on Petition Buzz.
manfromthezoo 1 month ago
@062389 All the CGI in this movie moved like it was shot in a water tank.
kezadrone 1 month ago
@062389 So how come Carpenter's Thing didn't look rubber in 1982?
kezadrone 1 month ago
i'd see the movie for the alien that is in the end of the video, but it didn't appear :(
faaip0de0oaid 1 month ago 10
petitionbuzz.c*m/petitions/thething a petition was started... since the practical version is still there...
vesnatesna 1 month ago
@vesnatesna you know...change the c*m with com and add the worldwideweb shortcut in front of the link
vesnatesna 1 month ago
Everybody! There's a link to a petition on The Thing Prequel's Facebook! The petition is to have a practical effects version of this movie released. Everybody sign that thing!!!
pootman17 1 month ago
@pootman17 I've got 59 people over on the Advancement of Dynamation Harryhausen esque special FX who'll sign it. Peoplr from Oscar nominated Mark Sullivan (Matte artist on Lord of the rings.) To Richard Kent Burton ( Animator on Honey I shrunk the kids and James and the giant peach.) and Said Faraj the actor. oh by the way The new Sinbad movie is using state of the art stop-motion to generate the monsters. NOT CGI.
kezadrone 1 month ago
@kezadrone wwwDOTpetitionbuzzDOTcom/petitions/thething
manfromthezoo 1 month ago
@pootman17 got a link to this thing? I can't find it or those guys took it down.
kezadrone 1 month ago
Why in the HELL weren't these used in the final movie as INTENDED!!! I loved the movie but I was disappointed seeing most of it was CG. Like Split face and Juliette. All those talented make-up artist and designers wasted time and great ideas just to be replaced with CGI :(.
GolemSoldierNo15 1 month ago
You want to know why classic movies like Jaws, Alien, and the original Thing were such big hits with special effects? It was awesome directing. Whether its animatronics or a man in a rubber suit, super talented directing is needed to pull it off and create memorable scenes. CGI is a cop out for less talented directors who would rather get the biggest bang for the buck rather than find inventive ways to compliment a real life piece of artistic horror for the audience. NUFF SED!
amgr34umr 1 month ago 28
@amgr34umr The problem is that if puppets are used, people will still complain and make rants like 'they should have stuck to CGI' or 'hey! it looks terrible CGI would have been better'.
Omnitrix8 1 month ago
@amgr34umr Example: Micheal Bay: Transformers 2 and 3. Who needs a compelling/riveting/sensible story when you've got explosions/CG/Hot girls who can't act their way out of a paper bag
JTKatz07 1 month ago
@amgr34umr
very true *cough* star wars prequels
LousyLump 1 month ago
@amgr34umr Not enough said, considering all the directors you just listed embrace CGI for the awesome artistic tool it can be.
evilyig 4 weeks ago 2
@amgr34umr
It's not the tool but how you use it.While CGI is often overused that doesn't mean it's automatically a cop out tool. Just look at Jurassic Park, Avatar, and Peter Jackson's LoTR and Kind Kong.
nosapian677 4 weeks ago 2
@amgr34umr I agree with what you say about CGI. Imagine if in this movie they used all of those practical effects with a bit of CG instead of just covering it all in layers of computer animation. The monsters would have been terrifying in comparison.
ThePandaGun 3 weeks ago
@amgr34umr so you are blaiming the director for the usage of CGI?
TheThingPrequel 3 weeks ago
@TheThingPrequel I am. Every single one of those scenes had a perfectly good practical effect built for it. I am not bashing CGI altogether, but why use it when you can build something 10 times better that the audience will appreciate and then toss it because you feel like it is too difficult to shoot. Use CGI for the impossible stuff, not the difficult stuff.
amgr34umr 1 week ago
@amgr34umr Well then let me inform you that Matthijs had every intention possible making this as practical as possible. The movie was shown to the studio in all it´s glory with what u see above. WHich is pretty much 90% practical&10%CGI.The STUDIO did not like it they thought the creatures were not scary enough or moved to slow. they demanded CGI & re-shots to make it look more scary and fastpaced. So no don´t blame the director his intention was awesome the studio fuckit up NOT the director.
TheThingPrequel 1 week ago 7
@TheThingPrequel they should totally release the film using the practical effect version on the blue ray disc or collectors edition
OrionGameStudios 1 week ago
@OrionGameStudios I agree yes
TheThingPrequel 1 week ago
I watched the movie again, and the only thing they kept non-cg was the ice-block alien.
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Man all that work creating the alien pilot and they didn't even put it into the final movie! They could have saved that idea; Sanders the large "final boss" Thing at the end could have absorbed the pilot which would explain clearly why he was so big!
glitchbreaker 1 month ago
I thought the film was great!
itsjohngarrison 1 month ago
Is it just me of near the end of the film did it start to look more "Substantial" and "purposeful" more like a whole being than an amalgam. Maybe it was just trying to reform it's self? I can kinda sympathies with it, it was obviously shit scared, and just wanted to get home it seems. And after the ship was destroyed it didn't even want that, only to live, the last one didn't even transform or try to defend it's self, just pleaded for it's life.
lolzomgz1337 1 month ago
@lolzomgz1337 Also, in the second movie the humans struck first, it probably saw the dogs as a threat, and the one with the mutated hands just keeled down in the snow, it could have easily produced a tentacle or something, but it just didn't, peace offering? :'( poor Thing.
lolzomgz1337 1 month ago
@lolzomgz1337 And by second i mean first....I hate when they make prequels :s
lolzomgz1337 1 month ago
Imo CGI should only be used when prac cannot.
lolzomgz1337 1 month ago
both practical effects and CGI have their upsides and downsides.
both of these methods only work when done well.
that said, CGI tends to be overused in films nowadays. it's a fantastic tool that can give a movie a distinct style (Sin City, Speed Racer, 300, etc.) and do things practical effects just can't (Jurassic Park, Transformers, etc.)
tl;dr
there's room for both practical and digital effects in films, but CGI tends to be overused lately.
SonicSnail95 1 month ago
This makes cgi look very bad indeed!
MegaDisneyman 1 month ago
what was the pilot alien? i dont remember that in the film
IaMaPh1991 1 month ago
@IaMaPh1991 It wasn't in the film, I think it was intended to be it's "true" form, by "pilot" I think they mean pilot of it's spacecraft...also it kinda looks like the thing in the ice.
lolzomgz1337 1 month ago
@lolzomgz1337 How does it look like the thing in the ice? The pilot has long mantis like arms tipped with hands, 3 eyes, a tube-thing under it's jaw and it's bipedal . The ice block thing had multiple scythe-like limbs, a mouth on it's chest, and a beak mouth.
rippedlampshade 1 month ago
@rippedlampshade well obviously it mutated a bit, but i can still see some similarities.
lolzomgz1337 1 month ago
3:02 best halloween costume
JohnPlayerSpecial1 1 month ago
It would scare the living shit out of me to even play as one of the things.
Watermellonman97 1 month ago
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The thing assimilates humans. Chuck Norris assimilates the thing
sangbum60090 1 month ago
CGI did not need to touch a damn thing in this movie.
TheRocketVoltage 1 month ago
Whoever... made the decision... to draw fucking CG over that... deserves to be tortured in a basement for a year, starved, mutilated, castrated, raped, pour acid in his eyes, cut his tongue off and force feed him salt and for the grand finale run him over slowly with a nice bone crushing steamroller!!!
WolfySnackrib666 1 month ago
Very cool looking aliens.
pdx650 1 month ago
the original is the only film i have ever seen that has scared me, and i watch a lot of horror, cant explain why this had such an effect on me, i thought watching this would help cos its all the make up, nope still creepy
AJpaws 1 month ago
I have many books and 'Cinefex' issues featuring the sheer work that goes
into these guys' art. ADI is a factory of phenomenal output and talent.
I went to see this movie last month and the creatures were genuinely the stuff
of nightmares. Cheers Woodruff and Gillis.
Lighthazzles 1 month ago
CGI has killed so much of the fine art of animatronics. I still loved the movie, but so much of this looks far better than CGI.
Thurbane316 1 month ago