@Mtbmaz If you cannot do better than complaining about language skill of a non-native speaker then you have confirmed your moron status that you had got after supporting Lance the doper.
@hellsadore I'm sorry, how am I meant to know you are a non native speaker? How are you to know that I am Polish? Exactly, you don't.,
If you can't accept science, fact, the truth, fine. But don't spread your hatred on pages that people visit for hope and inspiration.
This man gives hope to people who have a terrible disease. You may not believe that, but don't go around Lance Armstrong videos smashing their dreams apart. Keep quiet and grow up. Go to cycling forums, not youtube videos.
@IamAeroDynamic It's not only Tyler who said that, a lot of other people have seen him ddoing doping, have seen PED in his house, EPO was found in 2005 in his old 1999 TDF samples!
Armstrong has never tested positive anywhere, in any race. In saying he cheated, you are basing your statement on NOTHING, no evidence, just disbelief at how amazing this man is.
Even if he ever does test positive he has still shown the world that if you fight it you can crush cancer. And that will never be taken away from him
@gamesetmatch00 I honestly dont know where people think these facts come from. You only have to look as far as wikipedia to realise he hasnt! If you dont trust wikipedia, read any unbiased book on him and I highly doubt you will find a reference to any official drug test hes failed
@jizzzleful lol you're so naive! do you know about the money Armstrong paid to the UCI then lied about the amount he paid, the money was given by him and Johan Bruyneel to hide the positive test for EPO, which cyclists thought then was undetectable. The Federal investigation that has been going on has brought up soooo much evidence against him that we know almost 100% Armstrong doped, however people like you will maybe never accept the truth and continue fall for Armstrong's cunning interviews.
@gamesetmatch00 Im sorry i forgot that this federal investigation has regular twitter updates that keep the general public informed on how they are getting along. If they find him guilty in court then I WILL accept that he has cheated. No idea where these bribing accusations are coming from... if its such common knowledge then why isnt he in jail for that?
@jizzzleful Because it was not forbidden to bribe a federation in Switzerland. You may do a bit on homework by looking for the ex- UCI account Sylvia Schenk and the money given by Armstrong to UCI, search to for play the game, there is a website and a pdf about it.
BTW, do you get a fine every time you break law, like speeding and so?
It's the same for Lance, he cheated but was able to hide it with good doping programs led by Ferrari, and by securring it with UCI bribing.
@jizzzleful You just have to look at the EPO found in his 6 samples of 1999 TDF during a scientific retrotesting, then you can find that UCI is corrupted, Lance' bribes were taken as exemple at the international conference of "cheating in sport" called "Play the game" in London, 2009.
A most damming proof is his hematocrit often recorded at 48-49% during his victorious TDF, that kind of values cannot be explained by legal means !
And what about his relation with 2 coach implicated in doping?
LA got cancer in his testicles from using dope since he was a teen triathlete and then to survive cancer, which is a lotto and use that survival to enrich himself on the back of others suffering from the same terrible disease is disgusting.
@melende1966b You dont know shit! i am a Tumour sufferer and was diagnosed yesterday 22/02/2011 probably the worst day of my life at 38 years of age! Shut the hell up and go and do something positive with your life!
Many people died of a Cancer and Aids in my familly, I don't have to justify myself for what I said. I have been badly injured when I was child, and I was in a bed for 2 years
@melende1966b Why is your channel hidden? Something to hide? Something you ar not sharing with us? Everybody else is! i didn't ask you to justify yourself! I was criticizing your point! Thats what YouTube postings are for as I understand it! Why is he a liar? I was aying that I respect Lance Armstrong for standing up against Cancer, I would not have felt comfortable talking to my doctor about such private issues. Lance Armstrong is a superb athlete and a great charity spokesperson! Live with it
@melende1966b You can prove he got Cancer from using dope? Nobody can prove that! They say Skin Cancer is caused by the Sun...my Dad got Skin Cancer and died from it - but he did not sit out in the sun because he was very white skinned! So even the experts cant explain why some people get cancer or get tumours. I eat healthily, walk alot, i dont drink and i don't smoke yet i am going into hospital next week to have a tumour removed from inside me! You can't prove LA got cancer from using dope
Its like Muhaamed Ali has Parkinsons' disease. An awful debilitating disease which attacks the nervous system. You can't prove Ali is suffering that disease from too many years boxing. Its likely - certainly - possible that boxing was a factor - but he could have been genetically programmed to get it! He could have had nerve damage from birth which took years to manifest itself. But it is scientifically incorrect to suggest that that was the definitive cause of Lances Cancer. A possibility - yes
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@u368 Um.... First of all the EPO test had to be thrown out due to improper handling so nothing has ever been proven (innocent until proven guilty) and three hard weeks of riding can make Hematocrit go up by 6% without much trouble. In staged races of just a week my Hematocrit goes from my neutral training value of 45 up to 58% and I have never touched dope. It isn't you job to "put all points together" that is UCIs job and as it stands now he never doped.
When I read these comments on these cycling videos I think to myself why are these people so intent on tarnishing Lance's rep, I am not here to dispute about Lance and doping but merely to make a point. Lance Armstrong is not mere cyclist, he does not exist in the world of Contador, Schleck, Mercx, Ullrich, Pantani etc. This man is a global figure, he is a signal of hope for a sport that is hanging on by a thread nd for cancer victims world wide!! He is also Innocent until clearly proven guilty
@paddyclk He had been already proved to be a cheater. EPO was found in his 1999 samples, in 2009 he had very dubious blood values showing 3 blood transfusions during TDF.
That is not because the corrupted UCI refuse to prosecute him that he is innocent.
He is more a signal of fraud, cheating, and lies that hopes. Madoff was too a hope at a time. We have to learn from past.
@hghepo the 1999 epo-lead is based on an equipe-article and one(!) testifiing laboratory-employer. there is no evidence that proves that armstrong's ever been doped. additionally he is the most tested athlete in the history of sports. so get it boy: this man's the best!
@hghepo you forget off-season and training-observing tests. your argumentation sux. maybe you should learn more about logics first. constantly testing for doping cant be compared to driving to fast because doping has traceable effekts that last much longer than 5 minutes.
@hghepo i have checked your channel and it seems your free time is based on accusing Armstrong. Not only you link transient fiction, but you also send out a biased opinion based on leads and subjective literature only. there is nothing wrong if some people are better than you. do sth better in your free time and think about yourself, this is always the best way to a better life. gl
i dont care if hes doped, everyone else is anyway. You can either train where you want and dope, or you can go train in that place thats like 13,000 feet in elevation or some shit in colorado and itll do the same thing to your body. IM SICK OF PEOPLE ACCUSING ATHELETES OF TAKING DRUGS. i already know they do, so shut up already.
@Dononcall No it's clearly blood doping for a man who has 41-41% as normal or natural hct ! If Lance had like Cunego a hct of 51-52%, that would be OK but that is not the case.
Lance at the age of 15 was a top 20 triathlete in the world. At 17, he was noticed by national cycling coaches. Doping or no doping, Lance is an athlete that comes around every 50 years. I'm a former olymbian in rowing. I know few things about endurance athletes. Ask cross country coaches, rowing coaches, marathon coaches and see what they have to say. Did he had to dope to win? Probably yes. But all of you, couch comandos, never diminish how good of an athlete, Lance was.
Lance at the age of 15 was a top 20 triathlete in the world. At 17, he was noticed by national cycling coaches. Doping or no doping, Lance is an athlete that comes around every 50 years. I'm a former olymbian in rowing. I know few things about endurance athletes. Ask cross country coaches, rowing coaches, marathon coaches and see what they have to say. Did he had to dope to win? Probably yes. But all of you, couch comandos, never diminish how good of an athlete Lance was.
@aaav6 Lance was never see as a futur TDF winner, the physiologist tests done by American scientist in 1996 were saying he has not a good recovering so he could not target stages races (publication of American Scientific July 1996). Coincidentaly he had no good TDF until working with Dr. Ferrari
Wow...great upload! I dont care what people have said about him...what he has managed to achieve despite the setbacks in his life is amazing! Thumbs up!!!
@u368 Don't you know anything about how the body adapts?
Lance spends all his winter sitting in a high altitude tent increasing his natural red blood cell count. This is Legal and healthy-no drugs involved. He spends the mass majority of his time training at altitude. A whole winter spent at altitude will increase your "hematocrit" especially when by the end of the tour you finish in the mountains at altitude. Stop looking for something not there and twisting facts.
@bkermike Do you know Science? Can you provide a research proving that any athlete could increase by any legal methods his hematocrite more than 3 points?
In Lance's case you have to find one for 10points.
lance didn't cheat. he told me so from his own mouth, and that it's just the french doing there best to get rid of the competition-even if it means starting up plausible rumors.
Thanks Lance the modern cycling legend You inspired my wife to battle Breast cancer after reading its not about the bike ! She is now a 10 year survivor, we went to 2009 tour down under to see you & hear you speak @ the Legends Dinner, seeing you decend fearlessly down cheqers & in 2010 we won the lotto when you signed your Comeback 2.0 @ Norwood @ the start line.Thankyou Mellow johnny. My wife asked me to put a tribute up in our front yard called Viva Le Lance "GO Cycling See it on You tube
Wy are you all trying to dump on Lance this year will be his last Tour De France and he has already won 7 of them i think we should treat him with respect. because he is inocennt until proven guilty he hasn't been yet and he is one of the most tested men on the face of the earth theres nothing to find.
And if you hate him so much why do watch these videos????
I am so saddened at the venomous comments that continue to pour out of people over Armstrongs accomplishments, alleging that he was doping despite there being no evidence to support such acccusations. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty??? Please, let's give this god the credit he deserves until evidence exists to discredit him...
i reckon Lance is clean tbh the french media in 99' and many other years were always against him. If anything the cancer changed his body make up and build making him lighter, fiter and possibly stronger. He worked so many hours to get back to full fitness post cancer 7 times tour de france champion and all that work for LIVESTRONG, i reckon Landis has got it in for him after watching him win so much at US postal! i think this may be revenge of some type!?
Tests carried out in 2004 on Armstrong urines of 1999 Tour de France preserved by the national laboratory of tracking of the doping of Châtenay-Malabry proved that Armstrong was doped with EPO at one time when this hormone of synthesis, which can make it possible to increase by 30% the performances by supporting the oxygenation of blood, was not yet detectable. You in US still want to believe he's a champion! Well he's not !!!
@DeadlyMACD There is NO PROOF. NONE. Ever. Why can't people believe in the will and courage he has shown. If they ever prove it, I will trash him too. But not before.
There are a lot pieces of evidence that paint a portrait not only of Lance Armstrong but also the entire sport of cycling. It's not just Lance, it's the vast majority of pro cyclists who participate in the usage of PEDS and turn the other way when it comes to moral and legal issues. Then guys like Landis speak out because the system failed them and they are bitter...but still telling a lot of true things that fans of the sport wish wasn't happening.
Of course, you don't have to believe Floyd, just listen to Greg lemond if you want to know the truth.
But don't take our words for it. I didn't. I researched the topic msyself and read many reports, articles and 2 books on the subject. It allowed me to conclude that doping is widespread in cycling and that Lance probably participates.
I still admire him for his athletic accomplishments. but the sport is corrupted by peds.
@DeadlyMACD Fuck Landis. He's a cheat AND a liar. I believe Lance because I want to. I need to. I need to believe that there can be truth and will and courage like his. Maybe I'm just in denial. I do believe doping is widespread in cycling, but I need more than "pieces of evidence that paint a portrait." I need FACTS. Lance has given dying children hope.
That's true. That's why knowing he uses peds doesn't change my opinion of him much. I guess the average person is too stupid to appreciate the truth without causing problems. It's better for them not to know.
@fa5234 What u just said doesn't even make sense. because all samples taken from 1999 were tested by the french, and USADA rigorously. Even the french anti doping agency spent months longer than normal trying to find anything positive in his samples.......they found nothing-they didn't even make up that there were.
Anything otherwise that u hear is just reporters trying to make money.
If the french reporters give lance a bad rep he will find it hard to get sponsors, making his success harder..
@bkermike The 1999 samples were only tested by the French lab.
When the B samples were anonymously tested in 2004 with a EPO test, 13 samples were found to have synthetic EPO. Later Ressiot, a reporter, obtained from UCI and Lance the keycodes to match the samples. 6 + 2 of them were belonging to Lance Armstrong.
To learn more just go on velocitynation webside and seek for Ashenden onterview.
@ryanszbest Do you believe he did the 6 others cleanly? EPO gives more than 20% of increase of performance. How could he has stayed at the same level in 2000 without EPO?
Why was his hematocrit so high through his other TDF if he did it cleanly?
There is no chance that Lance won one of his TDF clean, he doped for each of them : EPO, blood transfusion, HGH, testosterone and IGF.
@fa5234 he stood up for people with Cancer - my Dad died from it! i have just been diagnosed with a tumour! If it wasn't for Lance Armstrong I would not have summoned up the courage and gotten tested! YOU like Paul Kimmage (Sunday Times) are the scum of the earth! Now give it a rest! He stands up to fight probably the worst disease to scourge mankind in the 21st Century. Go and do something with your life! I'm trying to and it sickens me when I read comments like that!
@MovieMad007 I didn't wrote my comment on Amstrong to hurt you or the people who have cancer or those who are fighting cancer! I'm really sorry if you felt hurt by my comment i just don't think Amstrong is a champion! I really hope you'll get better!
@fa5234 How do we know for sure Eddy Merxx wasn't using? Nobody can prove it! Substance abuse has been going since the year dot in one form or another!
@u368 I can fold on the fact that I've not been able to follow all of the things that have unfolded the past year in cycling since I was at Ranger school last year from Jan-Dec. But as a huge fan and admirer I refuse to believe that Lance doped as long as he has not been convicted/banned for doping and I don't see that happening anytime soon. Even if that would happen I would still remain a loyal admirer.
I know Lance as rider before he won his first TDF... and he never showed abilities to win a stage race with mountains like TDF or GIRO.
What is funny is how Lance or Bruyneel use his world title to justify the announcement of TDF win : everyone who knows few about cycling can see the BS of that point! Winning a one day is never an indication about stages races! Who of cycling world would dare to use that kind of argument if there were better?
@hausken93 Like medicine not everyone is a good responder to any PED, Willy Voet, Festina doctor explains it in his book about doping "Breaking the chain" : his best natural rider was Laurent Brochard but Virenque was the strongest when they were doped.
In 1999 Zulle was "too strongly" doped and didn't support it. So it's the main reason of the value of Michele Ferrari who is well-known for his science of doping, and the reason to pay him so much for his advices. Who wins has the best doctor
They all dope...it's part of the modern sport of cycling and is widespread among the pros. That's why they rarely criticize each other...because they are all doing it. Otherwise the clean riders would speak out against the dirty ones.
Independent? Are you kidding? Vrijman is a friend of Verbruggen who himself is a friend and covered Lance ass in 1999 for his steroid case.
Clearly you never read Vrijman's report, he never challenged the scientific finding, just rules technicalities. But no one needed a report to know that the testing didn't follow UCI procedures, without A samples it would be difficult. They never adressed the point of the technical validity of the measurement.
well association with a tarnished doc doesnt necessarily prove he doped, even Betsy Andreau's testimony was thwarted in court, n remember the max tested athlete has never tested positive, also last year he raced up Mt. venoux with ridiculous ease (mayb not enuf to beat contador at his peak, but still rode pretty solid) n still no POSITIVE TESTS, u cant hang a man till he is proven guilty, so vive le tour n vive lance
well association with a tarnished doc doesnt necessarily prove he doped, even Betsy Andreau's testimony was thwarted in court, n remember the max tested athlete has never tested positive, also last year he raced up Mt. venoux with ridiculous ease (mayb not enuf to beat contador at his peak, but still rode pretty solid) n still no POSITIVE TESTS, u cant hang a man till he is proven guilty, so vive le tour n vive lance
well association with a tarnished doc doesnt necessarily prove he doped, even Betsy Andreau's testimony was thwarted in court, n remember the max tested athlete has never tested positive, also last year he raced up Mt. venoux with ridiculous ease (mayb not enuf to beat contador at his peak, but still rode pretty solid) n still no POSITIVE TESTS, u cant hang a man till he is proven guilty, so vive le tour n vive lance
Grow up guys give credit to this man's sheer hard work, once the course for TDF is declared this man goes to the toughest peak endings and trains there for months just to prepare himself for the race, isnt tht worth giving credit for ? Ofcourse he read the race very well had a strong team n was tactically brilliant, he wud be superb at Chess, love u lance
We all give credit to Lance for his doping helped by Ferrari.
We don't forget that he never prooved to be a GT contender before using EPO (end of 1995). Even the physilogie evaluated for Olympic games were not fantastic, his lactate threshold was not good enough to be a stage racer like his average VO2. You just have to check American Scientific of 19996 June!
@hghepo Ah ah, did you devote your life fighting epo and more particulary Lance Armstrong ? If he hasn't proved his ability as a GT rider before his cancer, you can as well say the same about many other cyclists which have became GT contenders in one or two years ;)
There is no use trying to convince everybody that he was (is) doped : people who likes him will always be convinced of his innocence and the inverse is true too
bunch of french and foreign faggots pissing and moaning because an american DOMINATED on YOUR turf once again. yet, a frenchman has yet to dominate on american soil.the guy straight rides AWAY from people!the doping argument is so played out and irrelevant it's pathetic it's even still talked about.get over it.the man is an animal when it comes to racing bikes.pure and simple.that is it.his record won't be equaled OR bested in our lifetime.
"Lance held his press conference today. I went because I was curious; I had never been to one before. It was held in an auditorium and there were probably a hundred journalists. There were lots of dumb questions and normal questions. Ironically the first two doping questions came from two American journalists."
It would be better to say that people are pissed to see a such doper and liar at the top, he don't deserve it.
Thunderclap. One month having picked up its seventh victory in the Tour de France this summer, Throws)Armstrong, young retired man, returns on the front of the stage. But it is this time question of doping. Six of his urinary samples, collected during the Tour 1999 and analyzed a posteriori by the lab of Châtenay-Malabry, are marked with the signature of the EPO. In its edition of Tuesday, August 23rd, THE TEAM brings the proof
Nothing was proven, the French lab did not follow any international protocol, it was all a big scam even to experts, just a dishonest attempt to dishonor Armstrong.
You should read Ashenden interview on velocitynation website on that subject.
So you would learn thatthe retesting process has followed higher standard protocols than UCI's.
The fact that A samples had been consummed for the normal testing in 1999 was the main reason for UCI to reject the findings. But 6 positive different samples are more compelling than a A+B sample!
So Lance doped all along that TDF, a very good explanation of his STUPEFIANT improvement post-cancer.
@u368: Article comment: "Impressive. This guy has managed to "interpret" the results without actually analyzing them. How incredible he is able to be 100% positive of these tests he has never analyzed.
Armstrong has been tested more than any human being on the planet, from training to the tour, and has never, ever tested positive. Sure you can intetionally misinterpret test results and try and make a persuasive argument, but it doesnt erase the fact that he has never tested positive once."
It's not difficult because LNDD works was scientifically documented and as Ashenden is a world scientist, his field is blood doping so he is able to judge what was done.
As usual, you as Lance fan, you repeat stupid myths. Lance is STILL less tested than Marion Jones (160) or Stefan Schumacher (200).
You should have learnt that many athletes have confessed to dope and to beat anti doping testing. So to be tested say nothing. How many times did you were speeding? How many fines did you got?
@Chrisesset88 Lance was never the most tested athlete, Marion Jones, with her 160 tests, is still more tested than Lance (around 140 times). And Stefan Schumacher, the cyclist, was tested around 200 times, Riders like Cancelara or Contador who win a lot of races are probably more tested than Lance.
And Dr. Ashenden is a scientist who took part to the design of the EPO test so he is able to judge if the test were well done or not. More important, even it's possible to retest those samples but Lance refused any retesting by any lab he could chose. Why did he refuse those retesting able to clean him definitively if he were clean?
Why did he never sued L'Equipe or Ressiot for their doping accusations ?
And Dr. Ashenden is a scientist who took part to the design of the EPO test so he is able to judge if the test were well done or not. More important, even it's possible to retest those samples but Lance refused any retesting by any lab he could chose. Why did he refuse those retesting able to clean him definitively if he were clean?
Why did he never sued L'Equipe or Ressiot for their doping accusations ?
@hghepo I highly doubt those numbers, just in 6months in 2009 Lance was tested 30 times. I thought it was common knowledge that Lance is the most drug tested athlete in the world...
@Chrisesset88 It's not because Lance repeats that lie that it's true. Before biopassport, the most succefull riders were the most tested so the sprinters and riders who won a lot of stage races, Lance's testing :
* 1999 : 15(1 positif for triamcinolone acétonide - corticoïdes cleared by TUE)
@hghepo I hope you know that Lance was and still IS tested throughout the year and not exclusively in the Tour. From what I know Lance was the most tested athlete during 1999-2005. Besides who have concluded that he had tests that tested positive for EPO? And WHY has he not been convicted in any Court or stripped of any of his 7 Tour victories if there is such compelling evidence?! Let me tell you what I think: It's all BS and lies! Get over it! BTW where did you find these facts?
@Chrisesset88 Lance was never the most tested athletes, every year 100-200m succeffull runners were more tested than him, finishing on podium is enough to be tested, each meeting, national, or continental or world championship.
Riders like Zabel, Cipollini, Zabel and Bettini won a lot of races or stages around each year: Zabel won 214 races (so 214 tests) , Cipolini abit less and in 1999 Jalabert won less races but was leading a lot of stage races so tested. So much more tested than Lance
@hghepo You don't mention the out of competition testing, Lance was, and is, tested on a regular basis all year long, whether he's on a podium, in a leaders jersey or not.
The number of testings I gave you earlier are including the Out Of Competition testing of Lance ! But for Zabel at his 214 tests done you have to add his OOC !
@hghepo I would like you to give me credible sources that can support your statement. If I can get that and I find them credible then we can settle on this matter (concerning the number of tests)
@Chrisesset88 For a while rider' testing were available on UCI website, it seems they are not there now but what is constant since more 20 years is that the winner of a stage or a race is systematicaly tested.
On Trackand Field or swimming, the top 3 is tested, meaning that the most successfull 100-200m athletes or swimmers are tested a lot, much more than cyclists like Armstrong who won few races.
On many cycling forum that matter had been treated a lot.
@Chrisesset88 Lance was not stripped of his titles because UCI preferred to burry his head in sand! The same boys who had accepted a controversial backdated TUE in 1999 for his positive steroid test (and a $500.00 donation) would never have accepted that they had covered doping for years.
Did UCI and Lance challenge the findings? No they just said because of no A samples, Lance could not be prosecuted... so he got off on technicality despite 6 EPO samples is more damaging that A+B sample
@hghepo If Lance really would have been doping and there is so called hard proof about it, the A.S.O. would have made sure he got stripped of his titles. Why? Cause A.S.O. have never liked Armstrong and they have themselves accused him of doping but never had any real proof to support it. What about WADA?! All those allegations are no more than just that: allegations!
And could you be so kind to tell me why you seem to devote a large part of your life trying to discredit Armstrong? Cause I saw your profile and you are a hardcore Lance Armstrong hater. Is that based on jealousy or what? Lance has made tons of good things with his life. I wish you would try to do the same...
I doesnt take much time to write the truth about Lance Armstrong. I believe it's important to point his cheating and lies, I don't want that he could abuse and cheat people. Before Madoff's scam was known a lot of people were praising the man for his help to a lot of foundation.
How many people are able to lie without reason on a podium?
@hghepo I don't see how Lance "...abuse and cheat people". There's a big difference between Madoff and Armstrong. Madoff scammed people of their investments. Lance has scammed no one of their money. Madoff is convicted of his crimes. Is Lance convicted of any crime? No he is not! BTW are you French? Cause if you are that would undermine your credibility to the point of embarrassment. The French has a vendetta with Lance. It's easy to make allegations.
@Chrisesset88 If the French had a vendetta with Armstrong, why their president invited Lance and Buyneel in his office? It was not to speak of cancer, France is apparently one of the most advcanced nation to prevent cancer.
Do you know that Lance was questionned on doping in 1999 by 2 American reporters before he won his first
perso moi je regarde juste pour la motivation et le dopage je m'en fou pasque tout les sports sont touchés par ce probleme donc voila^^
doi64 4 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
People blindly follow religion, never questioning it, when it has no real scientific proof at all.
Yet, when Lance Armstrong is proved, by means tested methods, time and time again, to NOT be a doper, you all refuse to believe it.
Are you all complete and utter morons???
The stupidity on youtube is so rampant because the weak and cowardly can hide behind their screen and point fingers with no repercussions.
I stand in the real world and fight.
Lance probably gives more hope than religion does.
Mtbmaz 2 months ago
@Mtbmaz Thanks to give us an exemple of stupidity on youtube.
hellsadore 2 months ago
@hellsadore I'm sorry your use of grammar is so poor I struggle to understand what you're trying to say.
Come again?
Mtbmaz 2 months ago
@Mtbmaz If you cannot do better than complaining about language skill of a non-native speaker then you have confirmed your moron status that you had got after supporting Lance the doper.
hellsadore 2 months ago
@hellsadore I'm sorry, how am I meant to know you are a non native speaker? How are you to know that I am Polish? Exactly, you don't.,
If you can't accept science, fact, the truth, fine. But don't spread your hatred on pages that people visit for hope and inspiration.
This man gives hope to people who have a terrible disease. You may not believe that, but don't go around Lance Armstrong videos smashing their dreams apart. Keep quiet and grow up. Go to cycling forums, not youtube videos.
Mtbmaz 2 months ago
@Mtbmaz There is no need to let lies spread on internet, truth is always better.
Now people looking for inspiration can choose real heroes like Greg Lemond, a cyclist who was never accused of doping and was seen as the cleanest.
hellsadore 2 months ago 3
e pup nu scem chist
SoldiersInside 3 months ago
SUCKS
x2thay 5 months ago
Cycle Sport 1995 : Dr.Max Testa of Motorola
"Lance is a great athlete, albeit a one day cyclist. Tests show he is
not at Indurain's, Rominger's or Jalabert's level.
This is why he cannot perform in stage races.
I would say that Indurain and Pantani and the others are at a level above Lance"
hghepo 6 months ago 11
is it "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" tribute ?
cantor0305 6 months ago
is it true what Tyler Hamilton said?
LA was doping?
IamAeroDynamic 6 months ago
@IamAeroDynamic It's not only Tyler who said that, a lot of other people have seen him ddoing doping, have seen PED in his house, EPO was found in 2005 in his old 1999 TDF samples!
Undoubtely, Lance doped.
hghepo 6 months ago
Yeah !!! What a great champion ! A CYCLING LEGEND ! GO LANCE !
Beurgh 6 months ago
5:20 best moment
maratsafin61913 6 months ago
/watch?v=j8zpLO0WHGE watch my tribute, THANKS
thesportrun 9 months ago
Armstrong has never tested positive anywhere, in any race. In saying he cheated, you are basing your statement on NOTHING, no evidence, just disbelief at how amazing this man is.
Even if he ever does test positive he has still shown the world that if you fight it you can crush cancer. And that will never be taken away from him
jizzzleful 9 months ago 2
@jizzzleful Sorry to break it to you, but Armstrong did in fact test positive, and there is evidence
gamesetmatch00 9 months ago
@gamesetmatch00 I honestly dont know where people think these facts come from. You only have to look as far as wikipedia to realise he hasnt! If you dont trust wikipedia, read any unbiased book on him and I highly doubt you will find a reference to any official drug test hes failed
jizzzleful 9 months ago
@jizzzleful lol you're so naive! do you know about the money Armstrong paid to the UCI then lied about the amount he paid, the money was given by him and Johan Bruyneel to hide the positive test for EPO, which cyclists thought then was undetectable. The Federal investigation that has been going on has brought up soooo much evidence against him that we know almost 100% Armstrong doped, however people like you will maybe never accept the truth and continue fall for Armstrong's cunning interviews.
gamesetmatch00 9 months ago
@gamesetmatch00 Im sorry i forgot that this federal investigation has regular twitter updates that keep the general public informed on how they are getting along. If they find him guilty in court then I WILL accept that he has cheated. No idea where these bribing accusations are coming from... if its such common knowledge then why isnt he in jail for that?
jizzzleful 9 months ago
@jizzzleful Because it was not forbidden to bribe a federation in Switzerland. You may do a bit on homework by looking for the ex- UCI account Sylvia Schenk and the money given by Armstrong to UCI, search to for play the game, there is a website and a pdf about it.
BTW, do you get a fine every time you break law, like speeding and so?
It's the same for Lance, he cheated but was able to hide it with good doping programs led by Ferrari, and by securring it with UCI bribing.
hghepo 9 months ago 6
@jizzzleful You just have to look at the EPO found in his 6 samples of 1999 TDF during a scientific retrotesting, then you can find that UCI is corrupted, Lance' bribes were taken as exemple at the international conference of "cheating in sport" called "Play the game" in London, 2009.
A most damming proof is his hematocrit often recorded at 48-49% during his victorious TDF, that kind of values cannot be explained by legal means !
And what about his relation with 2 coach implicated in doping?
hghepo 9 months ago 2
iam better than lance armstrong. /watch?v=r7BMRDU1X5E
let see it.
nico261086 10 months ago
Watch my tribute, /watch?v=j8zpLO0WHGE
Thanks
thesportrun 11 months ago
LA got cancer in his testicles from using dope since he was a teen triathlete and then to survive cancer, which is a lotto and use that survival to enrich himself on the back of others suffering from the same terrible disease is disgusting.
hghepo 11 months ago 45
@hghepo
That's correct
melende1966b 11 months ago
MORE BIKES,LESS ENGINE.
terminatortbc 11 months ago
Doping is legal in Spain. In any other country, the athletes are doomed.
Santana1765 11 months ago
VIVA ARMSTRONG
picado1695 11 months ago
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picado1695 11 months ago
Lance is the best fucking press!
Pentragon112 1 year ago
@Pentragon112
Armstrong is a liar, he was tested positive in 1999, it was on the tour de France LOOOOOOL
melende1966b 1 year ago 2
Biggest fraud ever.
celnuk 1 year ago
@celnuk
I agree with you, this guy (Lance Armstrong) is a liar
melende1966b 1 year ago 37
@melende1966b You dont know shit! i am a Tumour sufferer and was diagnosed yesterday 22/02/2011 probably the worst day of my life at 38 years of age! Shut the hell up and go and do something positive with your life!
MovieMad007 11 months ago
@MovieMad007
I have had a bad disease in the past, but I don't talk about it, because this isn't the place to talk about it.
melende1966b 11 months ago
@MovieMad007
Excuse me sir,
Many people died of a Cancer and Aids in my familly, I don't have to justify myself for what I said. I have been badly injured when I was child, and I was in a bed for 2 years
melende1966b 11 months ago
@melende1966b Why is your channel hidden? Something to hide? Something you ar not sharing with us? Everybody else is! i didn't ask you to justify yourself! I was criticizing your point! Thats what YouTube postings are for as I understand it! Why is he a liar? I was aying that I respect Lance Armstrong for standing up against Cancer, I would not have felt comfortable talking to my doctor about such private issues. Lance Armstrong is a superb athlete and a great charity spokesperson! Live with it
MovieMad007 11 months ago
@MovieMad007
I'm French I know the Story of Lance Armstrong, he had the cancer because he was using dope, he was tested positive many times here in France
melende1966b 11 months ago
@melende1966b You can prove he got Cancer from using dope? Nobody can prove that! They say Skin Cancer is caused by the Sun...my Dad got Skin Cancer and died from it - but he did not sit out in the sun because he was very white skinned! So even the experts cant explain why some people get cancer or get tumours. I eat healthily, walk alot, i dont drink and i don't smoke yet i am going into hospital next week to have a tumour removed from inside me! You can't prove LA got cancer from using dope
MovieMad007 11 months ago
Its like Muhaamed Ali has Parkinsons' disease. An awful debilitating disease which attacks the nervous system. You can't prove Ali is suffering that disease from too many years boxing. Its likely - certainly - possible that boxing was a factor - but he could have been genetically programmed to get it! He could have had nerve damage from birth which took years to manifest itself. But it is scientifically incorrect to suggest that that was the definitive cause of Lances Cancer. A possibility - yes
MovieMad007 11 months ago
funny i didnt hear anyone mention the $250 MILLION PLUS he raised for cancer research/treatment/prevention? just a lot of bitching...
qtrombley 1 year ago
FALSANTE
elmagomerlin03 1 year ago
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@u368 Um.... First of all the EPO test had to be thrown out due to improper handling so nothing has ever been proven (innocent until proven guilty) and three hard weeks of riding can make Hematocrit go up by 6% without much trouble. In staged races of just a week my Hematocrit goes from my neutral training value of 45 up to 58% and I have never touched dope. It isn't you job to "put all points together" that is UCIs job and as it stands now he never doped.
dog987us 1 year ago
Improper handling? You should have read that on UCI report made by Vrijman, the report qualified of farcical by WADA !
WADA : "The Vrijman report is so lacking in professionalism and objectivity that it borders on farcical."
u368 1 year ago 2
When I read these comments on these cycling videos I think to myself why are these people so intent on tarnishing Lance's rep, I am not here to dispute about Lance and doping but merely to make a point. Lance Armstrong is not mere cyclist, he does not exist in the world of Contador, Schleck, Mercx, Ullrich, Pantani etc. This man is a global figure, he is a signal of hope for a sport that is hanging on by a thread nd for cancer victims world wide!! He is also Innocent until clearly proven guilty
paddyclk 1 year ago
@paddyclk He had been already proved to be a cheater. EPO was found in his 1999 samples, in 2009 he had very dubious blood values showing 3 blood transfusions during TDF.
That is not because the corrupted UCI refuse to prosecute him that he is innocent.
He is more a signal of fraud, cheating, and lies that hopes. Madoff was too a hope at a time. We have to learn from past.
hghepo 1 year ago
@hghepo the 1999 epo-lead is based on an equipe-article and one(!) testifiing laboratory-employer. there is no evidence that proves that armstrong's ever been doped. additionally he is the most tested athlete in the history of sports. so get it boy: this man's the best!
G4meEnder 1 year ago
@G4meEnder You should read WADA report on the TDF EPO samples of Lance ARMSTRONG before writing .
Lance was and still is not the most tested athletes of history that is a lie.
But Schumacher and Kohl were tested together around 4 more times than Armstrong and never tested positive like MArion Jones (160 doping tests).
I never got a speed ticket... May I say I never drove above limits?
hghepo 1 year ago
@hghepo you forget off-season and training-observing tests. your argumentation sux. maybe you should learn more about logics first. constantly testing for doping cant be compared to driving to fast because doping has traceable effekts that last much longer than 5 minutes.
G4meEnder 1 year ago
@G4meEnder You just have to reas most of scientific report that you can find in my youtube profile page to see that my logic is correct.
How can you explain the 48% hematocrit and more of Lance in the third week of TDF?
Your knowledge seems like those of creationnist guys !
hghepo 1 year ago
@hghepo i have checked your channel and it seems your free time is based on accusing Armstrong. Not only you link transient fiction, but you also send out a biased opinion based on leads and subjective literature only. there is nothing wrong if some people are better than you. do sth better in your free time and think about yourself, this is always the best way to a better life. gl
G4meEnder 1 year ago
@G4meEnder Thanks for the unuseless advices.
Should I advice you to read more real science book before trumpetting stupidiies about sport, physiology or training
hghepo 1 year ago
Does anyone know the cause of the TT team crash? Looks like he lost traction on the slick road lines to me..
uranimo 1 year ago
WTF...this guy is amazing
Zen3123 1 year ago
PLUS GROS ESCROC DE L'HISTOIRE DU SPORT
zampadel 1 year ago
i dont care if hes doped, everyone else is anyway. You can either train where you want and dope, or you can go train in that place thats like 13,000 feet in elevation or some shit in colorado and itll do the same thing to your body. IM SICK OF PEOPLE ACCUSING ATHELETES OF TAKING DRUGS. i already know they do, so shut up already.
Bhousm76 1 year ago
@u368 a Hct of 48 is normal.
Dononcall 1 year ago
@Dononcall No it's clearly blood doping for a man who has 41-41% as normal or natural hct ! If Lance had like Cunego a hct of 51-52%, that would be OK but that is not the case.
u368 1 year ago 2
Darude-Sandstorm(Hard Trance Remix)
bunot7 1 year ago
hey @MrIrishlogic thanks man!! cool!!
MoNEdkO 1 year ago
real name of the song, please.
MoNEdkO 1 year ago
@MrIrishlogic thank you!!
MoNEdkO 1 year ago
Whats the name of the song??
MoNEdkO 1 year ago
the most amazing man in the world.
qtrombley 1 year ago
Song please :D
rkdude7 1 year ago
youtube.com/watch?v=V2CasfefrmU
youtube.com/watch?v=RIiUeyJLl7A
IONESabac 1 year ago
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Lance at the age of 15 was a top 20 triathlete in the world. At 17, he was noticed by national cycling coaches. Doping or no doping, Lance is an athlete that comes around every 50 years. I'm a former olymbian in rowing. I know few things about endurance athletes. Ask cross country coaches, rowing coaches, marathon coaches and see what they have to say. Did he had to dope to win? Probably yes. But all of you, couch comandos, never diminish how good of an athlete, Lance was.
aaav6 1 year ago
Lance at the age of 15 was a top 20 triathlete in the world. At 17, he was noticed by national cycling coaches. Doping or no doping, Lance is an athlete that comes around every 50 years. I'm a former olymbian in rowing. I know few things about endurance athletes. Ask cross country coaches, rowing coaches, marathon coaches and see what they have to say. Did he had to dope to win? Probably yes. But all of you, couch comandos, never diminish how good of an athlete Lance was.
aaav6 1 year ago
@aaav6 Lance was never see as a futur TDF winner, the physiologist tests done by American scientist in 1996 were saying he has not a good recovering so he could not target stages races (publication of American Scientific July 1996). Coincidentaly he had no good TDF until working with Dr. Ferrari
hghepo 1 year ago
Wow...great upload! I dont care what people have said about him...what he has managed to achieve despite the setbacks in his life is amazing! Thumbs up!!!
stoyki 1 year ago
what program did you use to make this?
WilliamHeathcock 1 year ago
@u368 Don't you know anything about how the body adapts?
Lance spends all his winter sitting in a high altitude tent increasing his natural red blood cell count. This is Legal and healthy-no drugs involved. He spends the mass majority of his time training at altitude. A whole winter spent at altitude will increase your "hematocrit" especially when by the end of the tour you finish in the mountains at altitude. Stop looking for something not there and twisting facts.
bkermike 1 year ago
@bkermike Do you know Science? Can you provide a research proving that any athlete could increase by any legal methods his hematocrite more than 3 points?
In Lance's case you have to find one for 10points.
Good luck.
u368 1 year ago
lance didn't cheat. he told me so from his own mouth, and that it's just the french doing there best to get rid of the competition-even if it means starting up plausible rumors.
bkermike 1 year ago
Bellissimo video :)
nick23276 1 year ago
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Thanks Lance the modern cycling legend You inspired my wife to battle Breast cancer after reading its not about the bike ! She is now a 10 year survivor, we went to 2009 tour down under to see you & hear you speak @ the Legends Dinner, seeing you decend fearlessly down cheqers & in 2010 we won the lotto when you signed your Comeback 2.0 @ Norwood @ the start line.Thankyou Mellow johnny. My wife asked me to put a tribute up in our front yard called Viva Le Lance "GO Cycling See it on You tube
craigistheideasman 1 year ago
ok, sorry, my mistake, plz delete my bad words.
Sorry again. Kiss.
SebFlower 1 year ago 3
Just did, apology accepted
Chrisesset88 1 year ago
@SebFlower well received, good luck CRAW
Anscheinend bist du zu blöd dazu (DATUM ?), das machen deine ? für dich
LANCE ARMSTRONG the BEST !!!
IQ20000Berta 1 year ago
The best man on two wheels!
b3jsa 1 year ago
the greatest doper ever :-)))
talikalu 1 year ago
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@talikalu <<< the greatest speculator ever :-)))
Sick3ninVend3tta 1 year ago
Wy are you all trying to dump on Lance this year will be his last Tour De France and he has already won 7 of them i think we should treat him with respect. because he is inocennt until proven guilty he hasn't been yet and he is one of the most tested men on the face of the earth theres nothing to find.
And if you hate him so much why do watch these videos????
TMatthews94 1 year ago
what is the song called?
tommyclift 1 year ago
whats the name of the song
martingm94 1 year ago
@charmane440 No fiction: Lance doped said Landis too confirming the EPO found into 6 samples of Lance.
u368 1 year ago
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I am so saddened at the venomous comments that continue to pour out of people over Armstrongs accomplishments, alleging that he was doping despite there being no evidence to support such acccusations. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty??? Please, let's give this god the credit he deserves until evidence exists to discredit him...
Sick3ninVend3tta 1 year ago
i reckon Lance is clean tbh the french media in 99' and many other years were always against him. If anything the cancer changed his body make up and build making him lighter, fiter and possibly stronger. He worked so many hours to get back to full fitness post cancer 7 times tour de france champion and all that work for LIVESTRONG, i reckon Landis has got it in for him after watching him win so much at US postal! i think this may be revenge of some type!?
Garrystephens92 1 year ago 2
Tests carried out in 2004 on Armstrong urines of 1999 Tour de France preserved by the national laboratory of tracking of the doping of Châtenay-Malabry proved that Armstrong was doped with EPO at one time when this hormone of synthesis, which can make it possible to increase by 30% the performances by supporting the oxygenation of blood, was not yet detectable. You in US still want to believe he's a champion! Well he's not !!!
fa5234 1 year ago 36
@fa5234 If that were true, he'd be gone. His brand would die, his children's lives ruined. He would not do this.
Pleaver 1 year ago
Sure he would. They all dope....it's just the truth...doping is as widespread in cycling as eating healthy and riding your bike.
DeadlyMACD 1 year ago
@DeadlyMACD There is NO PROOF. NONE. Ever. Why can't people believe in the will and courage he has shown. If they ever prove it, I will trash him too. But not before.
Pleaver 1 year ago
There are a lot pieces of evidence that paint a portrait not only of Lance Armstrong but also the entire sport of cycling. It's not just Lance, it's the vast majority of pro cyclists who participate in the usage of PEDS and turn the other way when it comes to moral and legal issues. Then guys like Landis speak out because the system failed them and they are bitter...but still telling a lot of true things that fans of the sport wish wasn't happening.
DeadlyMACD 1 year ago
Of course, you don't have to believe Floyd, just listen to Greg lemond if you want to know the truth.
But don't take our words for it. I didn't. I researched the topic msyself and read many reports, articles and 2 books on the subject. It allowed me to conclude that doping is widespread in cycling and that Lance probably participates.
I still admire him for his athletic accomplishments. but the sport is corrupted by peds.
DeadlyMACD 1 year ago
@DeadlyMACD Fuck Landis. He's a cheat AND a liar. I believe Lance because I want to. I need to. I need to believe that there can be truth and will and courage like his. Maybe I'm just in denial. I do believe doping is widespread in cycling, but I need more than "pieces of evidence that paint a portrait." I need FACTS. Lance has given dying children hope.
Pleaver 1 year ago
That's true. That's why knowing he uses peds doesn't change my opinion of him much. I guess the average person is too stupid to appreciate the truth without causing problems. It's better for them not to know.
DeadlyMACD 1 year ago
@fa5234 What u just said doesn't even make sense. because all samples taken from 1999 were tested by the french, and USADA rigorously. Even the french anti doping agency spent months longer than normal trying to find anything positive in his samples.......they found nothing-they didn't even make up that there were.
Anything otherwise that u hear is just reporters trying to make money.
If the french reporters give lance a bad rep he will find it hard to get sponsors, making his success harder..
bkermike 1 year ago
@bkermike The 1999 samples were only tested by the French lab.
When the B samples were anonymously tested in 2004 with a EPO test, 13 samples were found to have synthetic EPO. Later Ressiot, a reporter, obtained from UCI and Lance the keycodes to match the samples. 6 + 2 of them were belonging to Lance Armstrong.
To learn more just go on velocitynation webside and seek for Ashenden onterview.
u368 1 year ago
@fa5234 - last i heard Lance still owns 7 TDF victories! So he is!!!
kneedferspeed 1 year ago
@fa5234 hes still champion the other 6 times
ryanszbest 1 year ago
@ryanszbest Do you believe he did the 6 others cleanly? EPO gives more than 20% of increase of performance. How could he has stayed at the same level in 2000 without EPO?
Why was his hematocrit so high through his other TDF if he did it cleanly?
There is no chance that Lance won one of his TDF clean, he doped for each of them : EPO, blood transfusion, HGH, testosterone and IGF.
u368 1 year ago 3
@fa5234 sike
11Rossifumi 1 year ago
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4Pecos4 11 months ago
@fa5234
VIVA LANCE, KING OF LA GAY FRANCE.
Santana1765 11 months ago
@fa5234 he stood up for people with Cancer - my Dad died from it! i have just been diagnosed with a tumour! If it wasn't for Lance Armstrong I would not have summoned up the courage and gotten tested! YOU like Paul Kimmage (Sunday Times) are the scum of the earth! Now give it a rest! He stands up to fight probably the worst disease to scourge mankind in the 21st Century. Go and do something with your life! I'm trying to and it sickens me when I read comments like that!
MovieMad007 11 months ago
@MovieMad007 I didn't wrote my comment on Amstrong to hurt you or the people who have cancer or those who are fighting cancer! I'm really sorry if you felt hurt by my comment i just don't think Amstrong is a champion! I really hope you'll get better!
fa5234 11 months ago
@fa5234
Hello from France, you don't have to justify yourself
melende1966b 11 months ago
@fa5234
That's correct
melende1966b 11 months ago
@fa5234 How do we know for sure Eddy Merxx wasn't using? Nobody can prove it! Substance abuse has been going since the year dot in one form or another!
MovieMad007 11 months ago
@MovieMad007 He probably was, just like 90% of all riders still are now
gamesetmatch00 9 months ago
bloody screw you all! Lance is a champ with a heart of a bear! The best thing about him over all is he is human! You forget that!
booboo11560 1 year ago 2
ed ecco il tributo al ciclista più dopato della storia armstrong peace of shit, i hate this man
SuperAmodio 1 year ago
ランスアームストロングが地獄に書き込む必要があります
adrienblavier 1 year ago
yeah big cheater money grabbing american ballsack
adrienblavier 1 year ago
@adrienblavier money grabbing he does it all for his cancer charity you fucking idiot.
TMatthews94 1 year ago
this is from a movie named:legends of the tour the france lance armstrong 7 in a row i have it too....
MrBasuso 1 year ago
you are very good.
wau0007 1 year ago
he doesn't doped, because there aren't things found
ilmagicoanto 1 year ago
@ilmagicoanto t'a raison
chrialle 1 year ago
Song?
hausken93 1 year ago
@hausken93 its called Sandstorm
robloxfan459 1 year ago
@u368 I can fold on the fact that I've not been able to follow all of the things that have unfolded the past year in cycling since I was at Ranger school last year from Jan-Dec. But as a huge fan and admirer I refuse to believe that Lance doped as long as he has not been convicted/banned for doping and I don't see that happening anytime soon. Even if that would happen I would still remain a loyal admirer.
Chrisesset88 1 year ago 4
I know Lance as rider before he won his first TDF... and he never showed abilities to win a stage race with mountains like TDF or GIRO.
What is funny is how Lance or Bruyneel use his world title to justify the announcement of TDF win : everyone who knows few about cycling can see the BS of that point! Winning a one day is never an indication about stages races! Who of cycling world would dare to use that kind of argument if there were better?
u368 1 year ago
@u368 So if Boonen and Bettini had used epo ass hell they could win the tour?
hausken93 1 year ago
@hausken93 Like medicine not everyone is a good responder to any PED, Willy Voet, Festina doctor explains it in his book about doping "Breaking the chain" : his best natural rider was Laurent Brochard but Virenque was the strongest when they were doped.
In 1999 Zulle was "too strongly" doped and didn't support it. So it's the main reason of the value of Michele Ferrari who is well-known for his science of doping, and the reason to pay him so much for his advices. Who wins has the best doctor
u368 1 year ago
@u368 pauvre con
chrialle 1 year ago
@chrialle i love lance Armstrong
chrialle 1 year ago
@chrialle me too
remixrocky 1 year ago
@chrialle Better to use ad hominem when there is lack of arguments !
u368 1 year ago
@u368 t'es qu'un salaud
chrialle 1 year ago
@chrialle Pourquoi? Moi pas triché pareil que fait armstrong
u368 1 year ago
They all dope...it's part of the modern sport of cycling and is widespread among the pros. That's why they rarely criticize each other...because they are all doing it. Otherwise the clean riders would speak out against the dirty ones.
DeadlyMACD 1 year ago
Independent? Are you kidding? Vrijman is a friend of Verbruggen who himself is a friend and covered Lance ass in 1999 for his steroid case.
Clearly you never read Vrijman's report, he never challenged the scientific finding, just rules technicalities. But no one needed a report to know that the testing didn't follow UCI procedures, without A samples it would be difficult. They never adressed the point of the technical validity of the measurement.
u368 1 year ago
well association with a tarnished doc doesnt necessarily prove he doped, even Betsy Andreau's testimony was thwarted in court, n remember the max tested athlete has never tested positive, also last year he raced up Mt. venoux with ridiculous ease (mayb not enuf to beat contador at his peak, but still rode pretty solid) n still no POSITIVE TESTS, u cant hang a man till he is proven guilty, so vive le tour n vive lance
shahrukhju 1 year ago
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well association with a tarnished doc doesnt necessarily prove he doped, even Betsy Andreau's testimony was thwarted in court, n remember the max tested athlete has never tested positive, also last year he raced up Mt. venoux with ridiculous ease (mayb not enuf to beat contador at his peak, but still rode pretty solid) n still no POSITIVE TESTS, u cant hang a man till he is proven guilty, so vive le tour n vive lance
shahrukhju 1 year ago
well association with a tarnished doc doesnt necessarily prove he doped, even Betsy Andreau's testimony was thwarted in court, n remember the max tested athlete has never tested positive, also last year he raced up Mt. venoux with ridiculous ease (mayb not enuf to beat contador at his peak, but still rode pretty solid) n still no POSITIVE TESTS, u cant hang a man till he is proven guilty, so vive le tour n vive lance
shahrukhju 1 year ago
Grow up guys give credit to this man's sheer hard work, once the course for TDF is declared this man goes to the toughest peak endings and trains there for months just to prepare himself for the race, isnt tht worth giving credit for ? Ofcourse he read the race very well had a strong team n was tactically brilliant, he wud be superb at Chess, love u lance
shahrukhju 1 year ago
We all give credit to Lance for his doping helped by Ferrari.
We don't forget that he never prooved to be a GT contender before using EPO (end of 1995). Even the physilogie evaluated for Olympic games were not fantastic, his lactate threshold was not good enough to be a stage racer like his average VO2. You just have to check American Scientific of 19996 June!
hghepo 1 year ago 2
@hghepo Ah ah, did you devote your life fighting epo and more particulary Lance Armstrong ? If he hasn't proved his ability as a GT rider before his cancer, you can as well say the same about many other cyclists which have became GT contenders in one or two years ;)
There is no use trying to convince everybody that he was (is) doped : people who likes him will always be convinced of his innocence and the inverse is true too
shootyouintheback 1 year ago
"I believe his performances are the result of the same hard work, dedication and focus that were mine 10 years ago." -Greg LeMond-
Sick3ninVend3tta 1 year ago
bunch of french and foreign faggots pissing and moaning because an american DOMINATED on YOUR turf once again. yet, a frenchman has yet to dominate on american soil.the guy straight rides AWAY from people!the doping argument is so played out and irrelevant it's pathetic it's even still talked about.get over it.the man is an animal when it comes to racing bikes.pure and simple.that is it.his record won't be equaled OR bested in our lifetime.
de4dr4bbit 1 year ago
You are absolutely right! Some people are so obsessed with trying to discredit Armstrong it's even pathetic. LiveSTRONG!
Chrisesset88 1 year ago
Frankie Andreu diary Tour de france 1999 Tarbes
"Lance held his press conference today. I went because I was curious; I had never been to one before. It was held in an auditorium and there were probably a hundred journalists. There were lots of dumb questions and normal questions. Ironically the first two doping questions came from two American journalists."
It would be better to say that people are pissed to see a such doper and liar at the top, he don't deserve it.
u368 1 year ago
I am fan of Lance, but we have to be realist, he won´t never win the 8th Tour de France.
chaba1999 1 year ago
Thunderclap. One month having picked up its seventh victory in the Tour de France this summer, Throws)Armstrong, young retired man, returns on the front of the stage. But it is this time question of doping. Six of his urinary samples, collected during the Tour 1999 and analyzed a posteriori by the lab of Châtenay-Malabry, are marked with the signature of the EPO. In its edition of Tuesday, August 23rd, THE TEAM brings the proof
melende2000 1 year ago
amrstrong was tested positive in the tour de france , landis tested positive, tyler hamilton tested positive LOOOOOOOOOL!
melende2000 1 year ago 2
@melende2000 Armstrong has not been convicted of anything, let's remember that.
Chrisesset88 1 year ago
it was proven by the french laboratory of chatenay malabry in 2006, i'm french and i know that lol
melende2000 1 year ago
Nothing was proven, the French lab did not follow any international protocol, it was all a big scam even to experts, just a dishonest attempt to dishonor Armstrong.
Chrisesset88 1 year ago
You should read Ashenden interview on velocitynation website on that subject.
So you would learn thatthe retesting process has followed higher standard protocols than UCI's.
The fact that A samples had been consummed for the normal testing in 1999 was the main reason for UCI to reject the findings. But 6 positive different samples are more compelling than a A+B sample!
So Lance doped all along that TDF, a very good explanation of his STUPEFIANT improvement post-cancer.
u368 1 year ago 2
@u368: Article comment: "Impressive. This guy has managed to "interpret" the results without actually analyzing them. How incredible he is able to be 100% positive of these tests he has never analyzed.
Armstrong has been tested more than any human being on the planet, from training to the tour, and has never, ever tested positive. Sure you can intetionally misinterpret test results and try and make a persuasive argument, but it doesnt erase the fact that he has never tested positive once."
Chrisesset88 1 year ago
It's not difficult because LNDD works was scientifically documented and as Ashenden is a world scientist, his field is blood doping so he is able to judge what was done.
As usual, you as Lance fan, you repeat stupid myths. Lance is STILL less tested than Marion Jones (160) or Stefan Schumacher (200).
You should have learnt that many athletes have confessed to dope and to beat anti doping testing. So to be tested say nothing. How many times did you were speeding? How many fines did you got?
u368 1 year ago
@Chrisesset88 Lance was never the most tested athlete, Marion Jones, with her 160 tests, is still more tested than Lance (around 140 times). And Stefan Schumacher, the cyclist, was tested around 200 times, Riders like Cancelara or Contador who win a lot of races are probably more tested than Lance.
hghepo 1 year ago
And Dr. Ashenden is a scientist who took part to the design of the EPO test so he is able to judge if the test were well done or not. More important, even it's possible to retest those samples but Lance refused any retesting by any lab he could chose. Why did he refuse those retesting able to clean him definitively if he were clean?
Why did he never sued L'Equipe or Ressiot for their doping accusations ?
hghepo 1 year ago
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And Dr. Ashenden is a scientist who took part to the design of the EPO test so he is able to judge if the test were well done or not. More important, even it's possible to retest those samples but Lance refused any retesting by any lab he could chose. Why did he refuse those retesting able to clean him definitively if he were clean?
Why did he never sued L'Equipe or Ressiot for their doping accusations ?
hghepo 1 year ago
@hghepo I highly doubt those numbers, just in 6months in 2009 Lance was tested 30 times. I thought it was common knowledge that Lance is the most drug tested athlete in the world...
Chrisesset88 1 year ago
@Chrisesset88 It's not because Lance repeats that lie that it's true. Before biopassport, the most succefull riders were the most tested so the sprinters and riders who won a lot of stage races, Lance's testing :
* 1999 : 15(1 positif for triamcinolone acétonide - corticoïdes cleared by TUE)
* 2000 : 12
* 2001 : 10 including 5 EPO
* 2002 : 9(8 EPO)
* 2003 : 9(6 EPO)
* 2004 : 8(7EPO)
hghepo 1 year ago
@hghepo I hope you know that Lance was and still IS tested throughout the year and not exclusively in the Tour. From what I know Lance was the most tested athlete during 1999-2005. Besides who have concluded that he had tests that tested positive for EPO? And WHY has he not been convicted in any Court or stripped of any of his 7 Tour victories if there is such compelling evidence?! Let me tell you what I think: It's all BS and lies! Get over it! BTW where did you find these facts?
Chrisesset88 1 year ago
@Chrisesset88 Lance was never the most tested athletes, every year 100-200m succeffull runners were more tested than him, finishing on podium is enough to be tested, each meeting, national, or continental or world championship.
Riders like Zabel, Cipollini, Zabel and Bettini won a lot of races or stages around each year: Zabel won 214 races (so 214 tests) , Cipolini abit less and in 1999 Jalabert won less races but was leading a lot of stage races so tested. So much more tested than Lance
hghepo 1 year ago
@hghepo You don't mention the out of competition testing, Lance was, and is, tested on a regular basis all year long, whether he's on a podium, in a leaders jersey or not.
Chrisesset88 1 year ago
@Chrisesset88
The number of testings I gave you earlier are including the Out Of Competition testing of Lance ! But for Zabel at his 214 tests done you have to add his OOC !
hghepo 1 year ago
@hghepo I would like you to give me credible sources that can support your statement. If I can get that and I find them credible then we can settle on this matter (concerning the number of tests)
Chrisesset88 1 year ago
@Chrisesset88 For a while rider' testing were available on UCI website, it seems they are not there now but what is constant since more 20 years is that the winner of a stage or a race is systematicaly tested.
On Trackand Field or swimming, the top 3 is tested, meaning that the most successfull 100-200m athletes or swimmers are tested a lot, much more than cyclists like Armstrong who won few races.
On many cycling forum that matter had been treated a lot.
hghepo 1 year ago
@Chrisesset88 Lance was not stripped of his titles because UCI preferred to burry his head in sand! The same boys who had accepted a controversial backdated TUE in 1999 for his positive steroid test (and a $500.00 donation) would never have accepted that they had covered doping for years.
Did UCI and Lance challenge the findings? No they just said because of no A samples, Lance could not be prosecuted... so he got off on technicality despite 6 EPO samples is more damaging that A+B sample
hghepo 1 year ago
@hghepo If Lance really would have been doping and there is so called hard proof about it, the A.S.O. would have made sure he got stripped of his titles. Why? Cause A.S.O. have never liked Armstrong and they have themselves accused him of doping but never had any real proof to support it. What about WADA?! All those allegations are no more than just that: allegations!
Chrisesset88 1 year ago
And could you be so kind to tell me why you seem to devote a large part of your life trying to discredit Armstrong? Cause I saw your profile and you are a hardcore Lance Armstrong hater. Is that based on jealousy or what? Lance has made tons of good things with his life. I wish you would try to do the same...
Chrisesset88 1 year ago
@Chrisesset88
I doesnt take much time to write the truth about Lance Armstrong. I believe it's important to point his cheating and lies, I don't want that he could abuse and cheat people. Before Madoff's scam was known a lot of people were praising the man for his help to a lot of foundation.
How many people are able to lie without reason on a podium?
hghepo 1 year ago
@hghepo I don't see how Lance "...abuse and cheat people". There's a big difference between Madoff and Armstrong. Madoff scammed people of their investments. Lance has scammed no one of their money. Madoff is convicted of his crimes. Is Lance convicted of any crime? No he is not! BTW are you French? Cause if you are that would undermine your credibility to the point of embarrassment. The French has a vendetta with Lance. It's easy to make allegations.
Chrisesset88 1 year ago
@Chrisesset88 If the French had a vendetta with Armstrong, why their president invited Lance and Buyneel in his office? It was not to speak of cancer, France is apparently one of the most advcanced nation to prevent cancer.
Do you know that Lance was questionned on doping in 1999 by 2 American reporters before he won his first