well, not to be mean but...... since you're already smoking so much..... its kinda gona kill you. So that chemical they used would just speed up the process, no offence really, but this is what i feel
i lost over 40 lbs almost 50 due to these cigarettes with constant panic attacks and couldn't swallow food. found out i had anaphylactic shock due to these new fsc cigarettes THIS WHOLE YEAR! went to countless doctors and had numerous test that all came back negative.
I hated thoes papers, I started rolling my own, now I use an e-cigarette and have not picked up another one since! I breath and feel so much better and best thing is NO withdrawl symptoms because im still getting the nicotine without all the added junk!
LOLOLOL she said that there supposed to make them burn slower and make the cigarettes go out after a certain amount of time... but they burn FAST AS FUCK and still fuckin burn if youre takin a drag on one or not. ALL THEY DID WAS MAKE THERE CIGARETTES WORSE FOR YOU AND MAKE THEM TASTE LIKE FUCKING ASS
ALERT TO ALL FSC CIGARETTE SMOKERS! Phillip Morris US Patent #20100071710 and RJ Reynolds US Patent#20100122708 published in 2010 explain the adding of copper, cerium, iron and yttrium oxides to tobacco filler, filters and/or the bands of paper present in FSC cigarettes. THEY ARE NOT JUST "paper speed bumps". They are all known to accelerate lung and heart disease at phenomenal rates. I URGE YOU TO RESEARCH all of the above. This explains the metallic taste and sickness people have experienced.
ALERT TO ALL FSC CIGARETTE SMOKERS! Phillip Morris US Patent #20100071710 and RJ Reynolds US Patent#20100122708 published in 2010 explain the adding of copper, cerium, iron and yttrium oxides to tobacco filler, filters and/or the bands of paper present in FSC cigarettes. THEY ARE NOT JUST "paper speed bumps". They are all known to accelerate lung and heart disease at phenomenal rates. I URGE YOU TO RESEARCH all of the above. This explains the metallic taste and sickness people have experienced.
Here in Holland Luckily I have never had the problem, But my friend in New York said putting a cigarette in a microwave for about 30 seconds lessens the affects of the FSC, makes it taste better and gets rid of the irritation, He thought it was a myth buy tried it and it seemed to work, you might get some of it seeping out of the cig so put it on a paper, apparently the microwave melts the chemicals out of the paper, and unlike popular belief it doesn't add radiation
I quit smoking after 27 years because I cant get non fsc anymore. The fsc cigarettes are vile and disgusting. The give me a headache also. Somthing that was so good is now ruined thanks to the government. The US government ruins EVERYTHING they get involved in. I wonder what they will take from me next mabye my morning coffee. I used to look down on Johnny Depp for leaving the US but now I realize hes on to somthing.
I knew something was wrong? Been smoking Marlboro's for 36 years. Not only did they go out much easier on me, but I believe they lessoned up the nicotine in the cigarette because one don't satisfy me like it once did? I have to smoke a few in a row to satisfy my nic passion.
I called Phillip Morris myself as well. They run you in a lot of circles. I can't beat this "radio voice" you have though ;)... I encourage everyone to call the Consumer Response Center: 800-343-0975 . Flood them with calls. It takes a very short time to get someone on the line.
I'm from NC too (Winston-Salem to be exact, home of RJR) as if the frivolous lawsuits were'nt bad enough for our economy, now they (the cigarette companies and the government) are trying to thin out the smoking population...by killing us with even more deadly chemicals in our cigarettes.
@RoboticsNShenanigans Can I ask where is all that money going now that us beaten down smoker's are paying $6.00-8.00 a pack? Who is getting rich now? I'm curious!
@StopSmoking2010 For me? Smoking will not kill me but those smoking bans will. Were you not afraid of Chantix because of the suicidal side effects? I thought it was created by nazies as a concentration camp in a box? Take Chantix & commit suicide then they don't have to worry what to do w/the body? After all it was Adolf Hitler whos idea was a smoking ban! & the lies brought it to the 21st century!
@StopSmoking2010 LOL...the chantix commerical is outragous...me and my friends always say, who would be retarded enough to take those things? well i think we know one person ^
what is the logic behind the carpet glue? Clearly. I have been dealing with it since like seven years ago NYS was the first to do it, I have either gone out of state or roll my own. It is criminal that this has to be. As well cigs are ten dollars a pack in NYS if your buying them here it is insanity. Why not make cigars FSC? I can guarantee they will never ever do that. The quote rich mans luxury. Whilst the common mans tobacco is altered and rendered unfit.
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Unbelievable. These are nasty. I have been struggling with these for the last year or so and am just ready to quit. They suck...and so do the tobacco companies who do not lobby against these laws.
what a BITCH. Guy made me laugh a few times though, we all need to be calling the companies, and most importantly state representives, Also local and national news outlets, try to get the story out there more.
it will be an uphill battle, because after all "cigarettes have a billion chemicals that kill" public mentality, which has some grain in truth. Up hill battle, but i think if we all pull together we can fight this thing.
smoke Seneca or Native, i can still get them non FSC in my area, while all others are FSC. I think since they are made on a reservation they might have gotten in a loophole some how...for now
SEND EMAILS TO YOUR SENATORS!!! Its the only way to end this FSC law, those idiots did it, theyre the only ones who can repeal it!!! Please, please, send emails to your senators! If one state repeals it, all will!!!!!!!! Rally together smokers!
This FSC bullshit is for the birds, they waste more cigarettes by putting the shit in them. hence having to by more often. this shit was tested also on lab rats by a college professor, and it had caused cist and other foriegn things to apppear on their bodies. this is a crock of shit. being a smoker myself, im in michigan and was not informed, that lady was reading a line of shit for us to hear. in order for a class action to happen someone needs to cal from every state and record that shit!
You have to suck so hard on them to keep them going that the lit tip increases in size to the point that it falls off without warning, creating a fire hazard that did not previosly exist. Also they are making me quite ill. I've smoked marlboro red exclusively for 35 years without any problems, now they are making me sick. I am switching to roll your owns and you have lost one of your most loyal customers.
This fire safety compliance law was right on time for the health care bill that was just passed. Think about it. The goal is to eliminate smokers from the system. They are trying to kill us. This is all a sick sick joke.
FSC or fire safe cigarette laws were passed state by state using deception and misinformation. FSC cigarettes greatly increase health risks for smokers. Smoking-related fires have actually increased for smokers in New York, the first state to pass the law. Do a search for Huffington Post by Rebecca Brooks.
I get bad headaches from them, along with a burning throat. They taste horrible. There are only a few more non fsc packs left around me so I ordered an e-cigarette. I have even gone into the ghetto to look for them. I tried rolling my own but even with a machine I can't roll them right. I tried to exchange an unopened pack of FSC today at CVS and they told me I couldn't...it's Fed Law I can't exchange cigarettes. I can return a used lipstick though.
Go to indian reservations to get your cigs. retarded US Gov has no control over their tobacco. FSC is disgusting, and for states to make all cigs FSC mandatory is just one example of how ridiculously out of control our gov. is.
Seriously people we are lab rats and im not ok with that....... It starts here with the ciggarettes and it WILL grow to other products we use.....We have to stand up as a people and move on this and keep our freedoms..... how would you feel if pepsi had a new drug in it they wanted to see the side effects of.... samething going on here
People we have go to do something about this... ive experienced skin rashes and had an eye infection my doctor told me could have been caused to beig around a chemical.....
My goodness, my mom has been driving me crazy driving around looking for a pack of NON-FSC cigarettes. It's really ridiculous. At first I thought she was crazy because she always complains about everything but now I realize she isn't crazy. It's her 40th birthday on Friday I managed to get her a pack of Non-FCS but they're in a soft pack.
It's also ridiculous how these customer service reps don't even know any information about the compnay they're working for. Just sad.
They told us, it was only thicker paper (which is objectionable enough).
Now it is clear, that also is a complete lie.
If we don't turn off our TVs, Radios, & pull our heads completely out of our "way too trusting asses" very soon, we and all our descendants, will certainly pay the ultimate price for our complacency.
i just quit smoking all together, i didn't even notice a difference till my coworker informed me......but for a few week i wouldnt even inhale the puffs when they get to the fire 'safe' bands of death
You can definately add my name to the class-action lawsuit when it comes! I'm highly pissed about this. They did this so under the radar that a friend of mine had to show me the label on my pack..and I'm usually the one on top of shit like that! Now I have to drive around town trying to find old cigarettes that are pre-FSC. It's ridiculous, and YES these are more dangerous and more likely to CAUSE fires!
They are MORE dangerous now than before. They throw off embers that are silent, but catch things on fire. The old ones never did that. I'm rolling my own now, organic, and feel tons better.
@Ladyradical They are putting the FSC in all tobacco now, whether it is loose or pre-rolled. It is not just the paper. They are lying. Even American Spirit Organic has it in the tobacco. Do you think they care about you? All they care about is their profits. The only way to escape this is to grow your own.
@funkyjunkiemunkie Uhmmm, not sure if your info is correct. FSC was never placed in the tobbacco, just the papers. I checked and couldn't find anything to back up your cliam. If you've got some info, please post it.
@Ladyradical Just personal experience. Tried rolling Camel tobacco in a paper. Had the same nasty taste, like glue, and left a coating in my mouth. I switched to roll my own and recently it has been the same thing. Nasty taste in my mouth, sore throat, can't breath. With Bali Shag and A.S. I even called American Spirit and asked about it. They said they used corn starch but acted real shady about it. I finally just quit. So no proof, but strong evidence.
Exposure to vinyl acetate for a couple of weeks caused irritation of the eyes, nose, throat, and lungs of laboratory animals. Vinyl acetate at levels around 200 ppm caused irritation to the respiratory tract and nose when it was breathed by rats and mice for up to 2 years. Damage to the lungs was seen in rats at 200 and 600 ppm and in mice at 600 ppm. Studies also suggest that breathing vinyl acetate may affect the immune system and nervous system.
def. in the paper...camels are f.s.c aswell it is printed on the bottom of the pack- no rings on the paper..i re rolled 1 and the tobacco still taste like crap ! ''its a thick deadly smoke/vapor'' lets grow/roll our own
I smoke Marlboro "Reds", and from what I can tell the glue is in the PAPER, not the tobacco. Currently I "hot-box" and don't inhale the glue rings and it's "not as bad". Even so, there are 2-3 rings on each cigarette which I don't inhale, therefore I'm wasting about 1/4 of my cigarette. Now "Falling Cherries" occur constantly, making them a fire hazard for ANYONE who smokes, not just dim-wits who fall asleep smoking, or throw lit ones down without the sense to stomp them out. Pisses me off.
i dont wanna be ahead of my seld but i know alot about drugs
i say by the electric ciggerate or smoke grass i also say fuck the dea and the fda the fcc are cool and fuck how ever decide to put this shit in my ciggerate
This is a very nice post. Quite informative and revealing. I too had no idea about the FSC procedure in the new cigarettes. I found it odd that all my Three Marlboro cartons were "faulty". Thanks for the Recording :-)
Thanks to FSC, I am recuperating from pneumonia right now.
Thanks? YES! Because, this has shown me the light...forget suing the cigarette companies...QUIT, and really kill them! (And the govt and their unfair taxing)
6 days without a smoke has shown me the truth about how I REALLY do not want to smoke...my addiction wants me to smoke!
Thanks VA Slims for making me realize how I was killing myself with your formaldehyde/arsenic/DDT/FSC poison!
We all need to sue them. Hopefully a smart lawyer will get behind this. That's the only way to get this to stop, by hitting them in their pocketbook!!! I've had headaches and bronchitis and asthma, confusion. Thank's for letting us know about the FSC change A**HOLES!!! YOUR KILLING US!!!
Say Hello...to the closing in and the revealing of a government that has too much power. In A free market place it was my understanding that we get to choose. If i want a fire hazardous cig i should have the option. If i want a fire compliant cig i should have That option. The law should be voted on in my state..by us the citizens of that state. then passed UP to the federal gov. For fuck sakes..when are we going to get angry? When are we going to get fucking pissed off? how much will it take?
@BarryShane1Monstrok Shit! They are not going to allow people to vote on this or a smoking ban law because they fucking know damn good and well neither stupid law would pass so they don''t ask the people they just shove this shit down our throat! I smoked Marlboro for 20 years and they were such a fine cigarette. Now they taste like shit, like all other FSC smokes but as usual the people have no say in this matter. Bracko and his communist cronies decide what is best for us in the USSA!
The Harvard School of Health reported that when comparing NY Cigarettes (FSC) versus Regular Cigarettes, the FSC cigarettes produced 13.9% more Naphthalene and 11.4% more carbon monoxide than regular cigarettes.[1] Naphthalene is commonly found in moth balls, and exposure in high amounts can result in "Symptoms of acute exposure include headache, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, malaise, confusion, anemia, jaundice, convulsions, and coma."
We Won't Be Your Fools Host: STOP FSC Fire-Safety Cigarettes Sells Network: Global Date: Thursday, April 1, 2010 Time: 7:00am - 10:00pm Location: Statehouses in all 50 states
Cigarettes, just like all consumer products, should have a list of ingredients. They are selling the product, the chemicals they add other than tobacco and paper, should be listed. Required by law or not, I feel they still have a resposibility to the consumer to make them aware of other ingredients other than that which naturally occur in a cigarette. What if you are allergic to one of the chemicals?
Buy highly taxed FSC Glue (Ethylene Vinyl Acetate Co-polymer) manufactured cigarettes and then wonder why all of a sudden you have severe shortness of breathe,indigestion,heart palpitations and aches where you didn't think they could exist.
They taste like crap and when they go out you think it is still lit and get a horrible drag on those god awful chemicals.
That's funny. I just called R.J. Reynolds & they gave me the same card reading spill, told me that there was no "proprietary" change in the paper bands. They said the bands were the same ingredients as the paper always was but could not tell me the ingredients. I told her my symptoms just like you, that the taste was awful & that I found some non-fsc camels today that tasted 100% better & didn't make my throat hurt. She just said she was writing my info down. They're hiding something serious!
YOU PEOPLE ARE GOING TO THINK...that I have LOST MY SHIT!!! ...BUT, I just got to sitting around thinking. ...That's dangerous :) But, Put em' in the microwave for about 3 minutes. I shit you not! I tried them out of the box, so I would advise not put the box or pack in there due to the foils. I dunno, might not do anything. But....there you go. It was like the first time ever! HA! legislation! YOU GOT FUCKED!!!
Toxic smoke - It's useless to call Philip Morris because they own the patent for the fire safe paper. Other manufacturers have to pay Philip Morris to use the paper. More chemicals other than carpet glue are added. If you take the tobacco out and put it in a non FSC tube the cigarette still goes out. Naphthalene (moth balls) and Increased fluorine were listed. The "repeal FSC cigarette laws" petition is a waste of time because it just sits there gathering names and nothing is done about it.
wow this is bad. i'll join you on that class action lawsuit. I kept thinking my cigs were bad too. I had no idea they were adding carpet glue to them. Also take a look at the video experiment of the fsc. The paper burns fine, it's the tobacco that has all the extra chemicals in it. If I can't quit with the help of nicorette, i'm going to roll my own organic tobacco.
i didnt know about the carpet glue... I qwit as of today....ALL OF U MUST JOIN ME...insulation is the same as asspestice....smoking dust and carpet glue...LOVELY
after i smoked a pack of marlboro lights FSC i got some bad body pains is that a part of the FSC chemicals in it? bc my back hurts and my body just.. aches all over my torso this is fucked up
Well I'm 19 (legal here in Virginia.) and since last month they have just started selling these damn cigs. I just got my first pack earlier this week. I smoke Menthol (yes I know they are supposedly horrible.) but basically I have had a headache for the last week straight. I can't get rid of the bloody thing and it's thanks to these cigarettes. Before I started smoking them I only got headaches once in awhile (I was born with migraines its in my family.) but now it's been a whole week with one.
The most I have ever had a headache was for 3 days. Now its going on over a goddamn week.
So basically my advice is to not smoke them. Roll your own. Its legal. Go to the tobacco store and buy paper,tobacco, and filters and roll them yourself. Or else you will start to see a change in your health besides the normal stuff with cigs.
I have had about 2 -3 packs with these the current pack I am smoking does not have FSC thankfully.
That's what pisses me off the most, is why weren't people told, or as you said a notice on the cigarettes saying more chemicals have been added. I'm sure many non-smokers must be loving this, until something they enjoy is taken away, or they are poisoned.
Can't believe people aren't going nuts over this, even if they don't smoke. Guess same reason they haven't done anything about anything else.
i recently started getting sick and bad headaches from these fsc cigarettes also. I couldn't figure it out, why everytime I smoked i started getting bad headaches and nauseous and over all just ill feeling. I started researching the internet and came across websites about the FSC cigarettes and people were having the same symptoms as me. Checked my pack and saw the FSC label. I have stopped smoking these and I am feeling better. I am rolling my own now, but i am quitting soon. This is crazy !
I cannot smoke any regular cigarettes at all without being seriously sick. Everyone that I know that smokes has been twice as sick as they used to be since the new government regulations. Roll you own, they sell cigarette tobacco that is labeled as pipe tobacco to get out of paying cigarette taxes. I roll 3 cartoons for the price of 4 packs. (Safewebs. info) to learn more
well, not to be mean but...... since you're already smoking so much..... its kinda gona kill you. So that chemical they used would just speed up the process, no offence really, but this is what i feel
exodia94 1 month ago
i lost over 40 lbs almost 50 due to these cigarettes with constant panic attacks and couldn't swallow food. found out i had anaphylactic shock due to these new fsc cigarettes THIS WHOLE YEAR! went to countless doctors and had numerous test that all came back negative.
imus1426 2 months ago
Nice voice!!!
Thereal007karun 3 months ago
How bout that. I'm in nc to lol
lovedoveish 3 months ago
Fuck fs mother fucking c it's such bullshit
NJP1234567890 3 months ago
Thumbs up if shiggityjoe brought you here
Russianjackhammer000 4 months ago 4
I hated thoes papers, I started rolling my own, now I use an e-cigarette and have not picked up another one since! I breath and feel so much better and best thing is NO withdrawl symptoms because im still getting the nicotine without all the added junk!
Sassy19721 4 months ago
LOLOLOL she said that there supposed to make them burn slower and make the cigarettes go out after a certain amount of time... but they burn FAST AS FUCK and still fuckin burn if youre takin a drag on one or not. ALL THEY DID WAS MAKE THERE CIGARETTES WORSE FOR YOU AND MAKE THEM TASTE LIKE FUCKING ASS
CBCCLTBNOSNOH29 6 months ago
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ALERT TO ALL FSC CIGARETTE SMOKERS! Phillip Morris US Patent #20100071710 and RJ Reynolds US Patent#20100122708 published in 2010 explain the adding of copper, cerium, iron and yttrium oxides to tobacco filler, filters and/or the bands of paper present in FSC cigarettes. THEY ARE NOT JUST "paper speed bumps". They are all known to accelerate lung and heart disease at phenomenal rates. I URGE YOU TO RESEARCH all of the above. This explains the metallic taste and sickness people have experienced.
Drosera5150 10 months ago
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ALERT TO ALL FSC CIGARETTE SMOKERS! Phillip Morris US Patent #20100071710 and RJ Reynolds US Patent#20100122708 published in 2010 explain the adding of copper, cerium, iron and yttrium oxides to tobacco filler, filters and/or the bands of paper present in FSC cigarettes. THEY ARE NOT JUST "paper speed bumps". They are all known to accelerate lung and heart disease at phenomenal rates. I URGE YOU TO RESEARCH all of the above. This explains the metallic taste and sickness people have experienced.
Drosera5150 10 months ago
how to beat these FSC is roll your own.
douggie7772010 11 months ago
Wich number i have to press to get my lung cancer ?
Millenxz 1 year ago
The guy in this video is a DUMBASS seriously its on tv and on thr box so stfu
MegaBigred93 1 year ago
The truth is hidden. That's why I use electronic cigarettes now. NO HARMFUL CHEMICALS! Yay! Tastes Great - Less Killing"
QCAssociates 1 year ago
HOW TO GET EVA OUT OF CIG:
Here in Holland Luckily I have never had the problem, But my friend in New York said putting a cigarette in a microwave for about 30 seconds lessens the affects of the FSC, makes it taste better and gets rid of the irritation, He thought it was a myth buy tried it and it seemed to work, you might get some of it seeping out of the cig so put it on a paper, apparently the microwave melts the chemicals out of the paper, and unlike popular belief it doesn't add radiation
MadMarco888 1 year ago
I quit smoking after 27 years because I cant get non fsc anymore. The fsc cigarettes are vile and disgusting. The give me a headache also. Somthing that was so good is now ruined thanks to the government. The US government ruins EVERYTHING they get involved in. I wonder what they will take from me next mabye my morning coffee. I used to look down on Johnny Depp for leaving the US but now I realize hes on to somthing.
zombolla 1 year ago 2
i miss the taste of regular marlboro reds = (
CGJUGO80 1 year ago
CONTACT US IF FSC CIGARETTES ARE MAKING YOU SICK
l e g a l h e l p @ s o k o l o v e l a w . c o m
FSCCIGARETTESSUCK 1 year ago
I was laughing the whole time, dont know if this was suppose to b a joke video haha
Magienus 1 year ago
i wish you pricks would lay the fuck off the smokers. let them do their thing its their choice
xzero0100 1 year ago 2
Shit? I'm smoking carpet glue? Please tell me where is this class action suit & where do I sign up?
Godzie1 1 year ago
I knew something was wrong? Been smoking Marlboro's for 36 years. Not only did they go out much easier on me, but I believe they lessoned up the nicotine in the cigarette because one don't satisfy me like it once did? I have to smoke a few in a row to satisfy my nic passion.
Godzie1 1 year ago
@Godzie1 So do I. I had to go to camel wides and unfiltereds to be satisfied. I'm gonna start rolling my own.
Dp908 1 year ago
I called Phillip Morris myself as well. They run you in a lot of circles. I can't beat this "radio voice" you have though ;)... I encourage everyone to call the Consumer Response Center: 800-343-0975 . Flood them with calls. It takes a very short time to get someone on the line.
MakeMusic9019 1 year ago
Damn dude. EPIC voice.
Tboyish 1 year ago 4
I'm from NC too (Winston-Salem to be exact, home of RJR) as if the frivolous lawsuits were'nt bad enough for our economy, now they (the cigarette companies and the government) are trying to thin out the smoking population...by killing us with even more deadly chemicals in our cigarettes.
RoboticsNShenanigans 1 year ago
@RoboticsNShenanigans Can I ask where is all that money going now that us beaten down smoker's are paying $6.00-8.00 a pack? Who is getting rich now? I'm curious!
Godzie1 1 year ago
@Godzie1 A good chunk of the price of cigarettes now (especially Class A Marlboro, Camel, etc.) is taxes.
RoboticsNShenanigans 1 year ago
@RoboticsNShenanigans Yep .... that means WHO REALLY OWNS THEM? its just the the same ol eugenics program by the government
theprophetkato 1 year ago
@Godzie1 Also, if they're too expensive; quit >.>
RoboticsNShenanigans 1 year ago
are you a smoker? hahahahahhahahahahahahaha
RoboticsNShenanigans 1 year ago
I went to the Phillip Morris website and pulled up ingredients Look:
SIDESEAM ADHESIVES
Sideseam adhesive is used to secure the cigarette paper around the tobacco rod. Sideseam adhesives are used in small amounts.
ETHYLENE/VINYL ACETATE, COPOLYMER EMULSION IN WATER
0.3
stupidgaylogincrap 1 year ago
Are you a smoker? heheheheheh
garagecrap 1 year ago
I smoked my last cigarette on February 7th 2010.
Did Chantix for 2 months and been Totally cigarette free for 6 months now.
They won't kill me!!
At least with cigarettes they won't!!
StopSmoking2010 1 year ago
@StopSmoking2010 For me? Smoking will not kill me but those smoking bans will. Were you not afraid of Chantix because of the suicidal side effects? I thought it was created by nazies as a concentration camp in a box? Take Chantix & commit suicide then they don't have to worry what to do w/the body? After all it was Adolf Hitler whos idea was a smoking ban! & the lies brought it to the 21st century!
Godzie1 1 year ago
@StopSmoking2010 LOL...the chantix commerical is outragous...me and my friends always say, who would be retarded enough to take those things? well i think we know one person ^
ThleTruth 1 year ago
very stupid indead, roll your own FTW
hckyboy13 1 year ago
what is the logic behind the carpet glue? Clearly. I have been dealing with it since like seven years ago NYS was the first to do it, I have either gone out of state or roll my own. It is criminal that this has to be. As well cigs are ten dollars a pack in NYS if your buying them here it is insanity. Why not make cigars FSC? I can guarantee they will never ever do that. The quote rich mans luxury. Whilst the common mans tobacco is altered and rendered unfit.
dascooker 1 year ago
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FSCcigarettes 1 year ago
Unbelievable. These are nasty. I have been struggling with these for the last year or so and am just ready to quit. They suck...and so do the tobacco companies who do not lobby against these laws.
raindear60 1 year ago
heh just listned to the whole call
what a BITCH. Guy made me laugh a few times though, we all need to be calling the companies, and most importantly state representives, Also local and national news outlets, try to get the story out there more.
it will be an uphill battle, because after all "cigarettes have a billion chemicals that kill" public mentality, which has some grain in truth. Up hill battle, but i think if we all pull together we can fight this thing.
bottle2lip 1 year ago
lol
smoke Seneca or Native, i can still get them non FSC in my area, while all others are FSC. I think since they are made on a reservation they might have gotten in a loophole some how...for now
bottle2lip 1 year ago
Anyone who'se ever welded galvanised steel all day without a respirator knows exactly how these things taste.
crocfme 1 year ago
SEND EMAILS TO YOUR SENATORS!!! Its the only way to end this FSC law, those idiots did it, theyre the only ones who can repeal it!!! Please, please, send emails to your senators! If one state repeals it, all will!!!!!!!! Rally together smokers!
Z0mgZ0mbies 1 year ago
This FSC bullshit is for the birds, they waste more cigarettes by putting the shit in them. hence having to by more often. this shit was tested also on lab rats by a college professor, and it had caused cist and other foriegn things to apppear on their bodies. this is a crock of shit. being a smoker myself, im in michigan and was not informed, that lady was reading a line of shit for us to hear. in order for a class action to happen someone needs to cal from every state and record that shit!
eyelesss666 1 year ago
You have to suck so hard on them to keep them going that the lit tip increases in size to the point that it falls off without warning, creating a fire hazard that did not previosly exist. Also they are making me quite ill. I've smoked marlboro red exclusively for 35 years without any problems, now they are making me sick. I am switching to roll your owns and you have lost one of your most loyal customers.
crocfme 1 year ago
This fire safety compliance law was right on time for the health care bill that was just passed. Think about it. The goal is to eliminate smokers from the system. They are trying to kill us. This is all a sick sick joke.
courtneycsavoy 1 year ago 3
i quit smoking due to these nasty cigs
drawdys 1 year ago 2
FSC or fire safe cigarette laws were passed state by state using deception and misinformation. FSC cigarettes greatly increase health risks for smokers. Smoking-related fires have actually increased for smokers in New York, the first state to pass the law. Do a search for Huffington Post by Rebecca Brooks.
platvenink 1 year ago 12
@platvenink More reasons to smoke weed
MythObject 9 months ago
@MythObject hell yeah
hjkklify 6 months ago
@hjkklify at least you can control what you roll up or load up
MythObject 6 months ago
I get bad headaches from them, along with a burning throat. They taste horrible. There are only a few more non fsc packs left around me so I ordered an e-cigarette. I have even gone into the ghetto to look for them. I tried rolling my own but even with a machine I can't roll them right. I tried to exchange an unopened pack of FSC today at CVS and they told me I couldn't...it's Fed Law I can't exchange cigarettes. I can return a used lipstick though.
sweetniko1 1 year ago 3
Go to indian reservations to get your cigs. retarded US Gov has no control over their tobacco. FSC is disgusting, and for states to make all cigs FSC mandatory is just one example of how ridiculously out of control our gov. is.
coldhardfacts 1 year ago 3
Seriously people we are lab rats and im not ok with that....... It starts here with the ciggarettes and it WILL grow to other products we use.....We have to stand up as a people and move on this and keep our freedoms..... how would you feel if pepsi had a new drug in it they wanted to see the side effects of.... samething going on here
snk4eva 1 year ago 6
People we have go to do something about this... ive experienced skin rashes and had an eye infection my doctor told me could have been caused to beig around a chemical.....
snk4eva 1 year ago
My goodness, my mom has been driving me crazy driving around looking for a pack of NON-FSC cigarettes. It's really ridiculous. At first I thought she was crazy because she always complains about everything but now I realize she isn't crazy. It's her 40th birthday on Friday I managed to get her a pack of Non-FCS but they're in a soft pack.
It's also ridiculous how these customer service reps don't even know any information about the compnay they're working for. Just sad.
lizdawn 1 year ago 2
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MathewsWire 1 year ago
They told us, it was only thicker paper (which is objectionable enough).
Now it is clear, that also is a complete lie.
If we don't turn off our TVs, Radios, & pull our heads completely out of our "way too trusting asses" very soon, we and all our descendants, will certainly pay the ultimate price for our complacency.
MathewsWire 1 year ago
FSC - cigarettes; About 2wks after these were secretly mandated for us against our will!
My uncle said to me; "Thomas, my pipe - there is something wrong with it. It won't stay lit and it taste different too!"
( now keep in mind my uncle.. has been smoking the same brand pipe tobacco for 25yrs, and he buys it fresh every 2 wks, so it's always fresh.)
You think people are burning down houses with pipes? Not ..
MathewsWire 1 year ago
i just quit smoking all together, i didn't even notice a difference till my coworker informed me......but for a few week i wouldnt even inhale the puffs when they get to the fire 'safe' bands of death
eatrocksah 1 year ago
You can definately add my name to the class-action lawsuit when it comes! I'm highly pissed about this. They did this so under the radar that a friend of mine had to show me the label on my pack..and I'm usually the one on top of shit like that! Now I have to drive around town trying to find old cigarettes that are pre-FSC. It's ridiculous, and YES these are more dangerous and more likely to CAUSE fires!
MRsophacles 1 year ago 2
@MRsophacles Old cigarettes are stale & make me sick. But I just found this video about the carpet glue in cigs. I need to know more.
Godzie1 1 year ago
They are MORE dangerous now than before. They throw off embers that are silent, but catch things on fire. The old ones never did that. I'm rolling my own now, organic, and feel tons better.
Ladyradical 1 year ago 15
@Ladyradical They are putting the FSC in all tobacco now, whether it is loose or pre-rolled. It is not just the paper. They are lying. Even American Spirit Organic has it in the tobacco. Do you think they care about you? All they care about is their profits. The only way to escape this is to grow your own.
funkyjunkiemunkie 1 year ago
@funkyjunkiemunkie Uhmmm, not sure if your info is correct. FSC was never placed in the tobbacco, just the papers. I checked and couldn't find anything to back up your cliam. If you've got some info, please post it.
Ladyradical 1 year ago
@Ladyradical Just personal experience. Tried rolling Camel tobacco in a paper. Had the same nasty taste, like glue, and left a coating in my mouth. I switched to roll my own and recently it has been the same thing. Nasty taste in my mouth, sore throat, can't breath. With Bali Shag and A.S. I even called American Spirit and asked about it. They said they used corn starch but acted real shady about it. I finally just quit. So no proof, but strong evidence.
funkyjunkiemunkie 1 year ago
Exposure to vinyl acetate for a couple of weeks caused irritation of the eyes, nose, throat, and lungs of laboratory animals. Vinyl acetate at levels around 200 ppm caused irritation to the respiratory tract and nose when it was breathed by rats and mice for up to 2 years. Damage to the lungs was seen in rats at 200 and 600 ppm and in mice at 600 ppm. Studies also suggest that breathing vinyl acetate may affect the immune system and nervous system.
randyincctx 1 year ago 4
THis is the worst decision ever made by any company to my knowledge. I've switched to vapor. Balls in your court RJReynolds...
Idkfawin32 1 year ago 2
fsc taste like shit
ThinkGreenSmokeBud 1 year ago
def. in the paper...camels are f.s.c aswell it is printed on the bottom of the pack- no rings on the paper..i re rolled 1 and the tobacco still taste like crap ! ''its a thick deadly smoke/vapor'' lets grow/roll our own
NETWORK2UPNETWORTH 1 year ago 3
I smoke Marlboro "Reds", and from what I can tell the glue is in the PAPER, not the tobacco. Currently I "hot-box" and don't inhale the glue rings and it's "not as bad". Even so, there are 2-3 rings on each cigarette which I don't inhale, therefore I'm wasting about 1/4 of my cigarette. Now "Falling Cherries" occur constantly, making them a fire hazard for ANYONE who smokes, not just dim-wits who fall asleep smoking, or throw lit ones down without the sense to stomp them out. Pisses me off.
SeveredFootLoki 1 year ago 4
yo these ciggerates are shit
id rather go back to smoking grass
i dont wanna be ahead of my seld but i know alot about drugs
i say by the electric ciggerate or smoke grass i also say fuck the dea and the fda the fcc are cool and fuck how ever decide to put this shit in my ciggerate
SydnieGrey 1 year ago 3
im going to call them tomorow thell know who i am
babsbat 1 year ago
your right BSM we need to bust there ass its the fsc coalition not the gov. there devils
babsbat 1 year ago
the fire falls off these fsc ciggs there more dangerous & the ashes fall off with sparks on them & will cause fires to i first handknow
babsbat 1 year ago
This is a very nice post. Quite informative and revealing. I too had no idea about the FSC procedure in the new cigarettes. I found it odd that all my Three Marlboro cartons were "faulty". Thanks for the Recording :-)
TheToejam666 1 year ago
I have smoked for over 30 yrs.
Thanks to FSC, I am recuperating from pneumonia right now.
Thanks? YES! Because, this has shown me the light...forget suing the cigarette companies...QUIT, and really kill them! (And the govt and their unfair taxing)
6 days without a smoke has shown me the truth about how I REALLY do not want to smoke...my addiction wants me to smoke!
Thanks VA Slims for making me realize how I was killing myself with your formaldehyde/arsenic/DDT/FSC poison!
zenbrenzz 1 year ago 3
funny because the chemicals aren't in the paper they are in the tobacco...
the reason for all of this is because of stupid people falling asleep while smoking and people not "field checking" or stomping out there cigarettes.
I would like to see the animal tests they did before handing these things out but i have a gut feeling that none were performed...
we are lab rats the best thing to do is buy Marlboro light 72 double packs i have found they are the only ones that haven't gone fsc just yet
Annik5k 2 years ago 2
yeah They tasted funny and burn slow from the go. Its got to be in the tobbaco!. mf s. any lawyers out there! this bs.
cvargovargo 2 years ago
@Annik5k The Marlboro 72's are FSC here in NY.
CGJUGO80 1 year ago
We all need to sue them. Hopefully a smart lawyer will get behind this. That's the only way to get this to stop, by hitting them in their pocketbook!!! I've had headaches and bronchitis and asthma, confusion. Thank's for letting us know about the FSC change A**HOLES!!! YOUR KILLING US!!!
marielena1958 2 years ago
Say Hello...to the closing in and the revealing of a government that has too much power. In A free market place it was my understanding that we get to choose. If i want a fire hazardous cig i should have the option. If i want a fire compliant cig i should have That option. The law should be voted on in my state..by us the citizens of that state. then passed UP to the federal gov. For fuck sakes..when are we going to get angry? When are we going to get fucking pissed off? how much will it take?
BarryShane1Monstrok 2 years ago
@BarryShane1Monstrok Shit! They are not going to allow people to vote on this or a smoking ban law because they fucking know damn good and well neither stupid law would pass so they don''t ask the people they just shove this shit down our throat! I smoked Marlboro for 20 years and they were such a fine cigarette. Now they taste like shit, like all other FSC smokes but as usual the people have no say in this matter. Bracko and his communist cronies decide what is best for us in the USSA!
storrs19 2 years ago
The Harvard School of Health reported that when comparing NY Cigarettes (FSC) versus Regular Cigarettes, the FSC cigarettes produced 13.9% more Naphthalene and 11.4% more carbon monoxide than regular cigarettes.[1] Naphthalene is commonly found in moth balls, and exposure in high amounts can result in "Symptoms of acute exposure include headache, nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, malaise, confusion, anemia, jaundice, convulsions, and coma."
jassy345 2 years ago
rbrnmw 2 years ago
Cigarettes, just like all consumer products, should have a list of ingredients. They are selling the product, the chemicals they add other than tobacco and paper, should be listed. Required by law or not, I feel they still have a resposibility to the consumer to make them aware of other ingredients other than that which naturally occur in a cigarette. What if you are allergic to one of the chemicals?
tracytheterrible 2 years ago
The government helps us bite the bullet sooner.
Buy highly taxed FSC Glue (Ethylene Vinyl Acetate Co-polymer) manufactured cigarettes and then wonder why all of a sudden you have severe shortness of breathe,indigestion,heart palpitations and aches where you didn't think they could exist.
They taste like crap and when they go out you think it is still lit and get a horrible drag on those god awful chemicals.
eaglephoenix 2 years ago
That's funny. I just called R.J. Reynolds & they gave me the same card reading spill, told me that there was no "proprietary" change in the paper bands. They said the bands were the same ingredients as the paper always was but could not tell me the ingredients. I told her my symptoms just like you, that the taste was awful & that I found some non-fsc camels today that tasted 100% better & didn't make my throat hurt. She just said she was writing my info down. They're hiding something serious!
bamagirl7333 2 years ago 2
its like getting a drink from the bartender with a 'roofie' in it, or someone slipping crack in your joint.
MYtruthsetsmeFREE 2 years ago
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sydonabike 2 years ago
Good job, but I'm still waiting to hear the caller go: Dial toll free, 1-800!
Peace940 2 years ago
Toxic smoke - It's useless to call Philip Morris because they own the patent for the fire safe paper. Other manufacturers have to pay Philip Morris to use the paper. More chemicals other than carpet glue are added. If you take the tobacco out and put it in a non FSC tube the cigarette still goes out. Naphthalene (moth balls) and Increased fluorine were listed. The "repeal FSC cigarette laws" petition is a waste of time because it just sits there gathering names and nothing is done about it.
DotCBoo 2 years ago
I had to figure this out the hard way. I was like wtf is goin on with my shit dude? then a friend tells me about this shit. It is pretty retarted.
Terrryxd 2 years ago
wow this is bad. i'll join you on that class action lawsuit. I kept thinking my cigs were bad too. I had no idea they were adding carpet glue to them. Also take a look at the video experiment of the fsc. The paper burns fine, it's the tobacco that has all the extra chemicals in it. If I can't quit with the help of nicorette, i'm going to roll my own organic tobacco.
79sinnetA 2 years ago
i didnt know about the carpet glue... I qwit as of today....ALL OF U MUST JOIN ME...insulation is the same as asspestice....smoking dust and carpet glue...LOVELY
Jebbadat304 2 years ago
after i smoked a pack of marlboro lights FSC i got some bad body pains is that a part of the FSC chemicals in it? bc my back hurts and my body just.. aches all over my torso this is fucked up
DrumCoalitionWithWar 2 years ago
you might have cancer.... its me again, and those are signs of cancer!!!!
isp10man 2 years ago
this is shit
and damn you have a commercial voice
DrumCoalitionWithWar 2 years ago
Well I'm 19 (legal here in Virginia.) and since last month they have just started selling these damn cigs. I just got my first pack earlier this week. I smoke Menthol (yes I know they are supposedly horrible.) but basically I have had a headache for the last week straight. I can't get rid of the bloody thing and it's thanks to these cigarettes. Before I started smoking them I only got headaches once in awhile (I was born with migraines its in my family.) but now it's been a whole week with one.
xPreatorianx 2 years ago
The most I have ever had a headache was for 3 days. Now its going on over a goddamn week.
So basically my advice is to not smoke them. Roll your own. Its legal. Go to the tobacco store and buy paper,tobacco, and filters and roll them yourself. Or else you will start to see a change in your health besides the normal stuff with cigs.
I have had about 2 -3 packs with these the current pack I am smoking does not have FSC thankfully.
xPreatorianx 2 years ago
But I still cannot get rid of this goddamn headache. I hope some people band together to file a law suit. This is bullshit.
xPreatorianx 2 years ago
lmao my name is john doe
batalarabe 2 years ago
Fucking Democrats!!!!
This was a big Liberal push! We have Marxist in the government! We must push back!!!!! FSC SMOKES SUCK ASS!
obamasucksdik 2 years ago
i wish they would have informed us b4 doing this shit because it is not cool at all
va2bama 2 years ago 3
I put this on my playlist and favorites awesome!!!!!!!!!!Keep making more!
rondall77 2 years ago
Appreciate you doing this and putting it up here.
I'm going to feature on my channel.
That's what pisses me off the most, is why weren't people told, or as you said a notice on the cigarettes saying more chemicals have been added. I'm sure many non-smokers must be loving this, until something they enjoy is taken away, or they are poisoned.
Can't believe people aren't going nuts over this, even if they don't smoke. Guess same reason they haven't done anything about anything else.
ChrmdLabradorite 2 years ago
i recently started getting sick and bad headaches from these fsc cigarettes also. I couldn't figure it out, why everytime I smoked i started getting bad headaches and nauseous and over all just ill feeling. I started researching the internet and came across websites about the FSC cigarettes and people were having the same symptoms as me. Checked my pack and saw the FSC label. I have stopped smoking these and I am feeling better. I am rolling my own now, but i am quitting soon. This is crazy !
bbeaty13 2 years ago 3
I cannot smoke any regular cigarettes at all without being seriously sick. Everyone that I know that smokes has been twice as sick as they used to be since the new government regulations. Roll you own, they sell cigarette tobacco that is labeled as pipe tobacco to get out of paying cigarette taxes. I roll 3 cartoons for the price of 4 packs. (Safewebs. info) to learn more
sxsinv 2 years ago