I have my concealed carry license and I totally agree with being able to bare arms but if the government wants to come after you and your family, there's no gun you can carry to stop them. They have numbers and weapons we could only dream of owning. It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
@pete5668 I have felt the same way you have Pete and I felt as if the UN wanted to take a stand against,we would be helpless even with non armor piercing ammo,but consider the resistance we've had with Iraq and Afghanistan and they are not armed like the American public (some 88% ownership) and we as a people are just plain tough when the chips are down! So don't be too dismayed...You're an American!
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" —James Bond—
@r3volutionaryairsoft I was raised the exact same way you were and have done the same with my children.I've removed the curiosity about guns and have explained the consequences when they are mishandled and have instilled a healthy respect in them for firearms. Well put "don't kid proof your guns,gun proof your kids" and I have daughters that are very confident because of it. I've used the same ideology about other things in life that when handled improperly can lead to painful,even lethal conse
@NeverEnuffAmmo Your message is exactly how I feel,except that you said it better than I ever could. Very professional and you don't come off sounding like an extremist.You point out that it's very American to own a gun and not a liberal or conservative issue. It's about preserving the Republic. You have a sound approach to a divisive issue. I listen to a lot of talk radio and could see you doing well in a major metro morning radio show.Especially here in Texas.You should consider it. You said
Great video and all great points you have made. I firmly believe that if we would loose our Second Amendment rights that would be the end of our great country as we know it. There are just way to many Liberal wackjob lawmakers nowadays that want to disarm us and seem to have pity on violent criminals. Join the NRA, get a concealed carry permit and buy a gun that suits you and get firearms training. You'll be helping to preserve what the founding fathers gave us. God Bless.
a big problem with owning a gun with a family is that kids will eventually get a hold of the guns and things happen. I lived near a family who owned a mini uzi and their kid got a hold of it and killed him self while playing with it. Im not saying that this will happen to every family with small children, but this is a reason why almost every family will not conceal carry. If you asked my neighbors they'd look at you like your crazy like I have a 5 and 7 year old are you crazy?!?
@R3volutionaryAirsoft Well I have 3 kids between the ages of 2 and 12 and they've all been around guns since they were born but I was smart enough & intelligent enough to teach my children about the seriousness of firearms and taught them to be responsible. I don't think u understand how many hundreds of thousands of kids are raised in homes with guns in them by responsible parents every year. The people who have tragedy happen were irresponsible gun owners.
@R3volutionaryAirsoft I got a hold of my dad's guns all the time when I was kid. And he was right there with me, teaching me how to be safe, and showing me EXACTLY what happens you point a gun at something and pull the trigger.
Gun proof your kids, don't try to kid proof your guns, you'll only set yourself up for tragedy.
@SierraTangoGuns Not from an FFL but from an individual in a private sale u can buy. The law in Tx says that it is legal for anyone over the age of 18 to own or purchase a handgun, but since the FFL's are bound by federal guidelines saying that they can't sell to anyone under 21 they can't sale to u. They probably said that cause they want u to get someone to buy it from them to gift it to u and they make maney, which they don't make if u go buy from someone else.
Good ol' Texas boy myself. I've recently learned that while I technically can't purchase a handgun under the age of 21, whether its from an FFL or not, I can, however, possess a handgun legally if one is given to me as a gift. Granted the weapon itself is legal, of course. Great video, brother. You have a new subscriber.
@SierraTangoGuns Well its always good to hear from a fellow Texan. You can also buy a handgun in a private sale if your over 18. That is Texas law, but it unfortunately doesn't apply to FFL's since tey are bound by Federal law. Now some people don't like to sell to people under the age of 21 but thats just a personal thing. So if u want u can buy a handgun in Tx without it being a gift.
I do have a concealed weapon permit in my state of Alabama, but it says on the back of it that "this permit does not allow you to carry openly" however Alabama is a friendly open carry state, which doesnt make any sense. if anything it gives me the impression that i have the option to conceal/and or open carry. i dont understand how a permit could take away my right to open carry.
I own and carry a gun at times. You are doing a public service by posting this video. Whiny liberals who watch this and complain would never understand our founding fathers. On a recent trip to Williamsburg we were reminded once again of our great nation and how brilliant the signers and framers were. Thanks! Tom
@NeverEnuffAmmo As a firearm owner myself (seven in total now) the responsibility issue makes sense to me. But claiming the 2nd Amendment absolutely does not make sense to me. You have the freedom to bear arms, yes, but you also have the freedom to run for government office, or start a petition, or do hundreds of other things that you are free to do. And yet, I'm sure that you aren't running for office. What is it about the 2nd Amend. that makes you privilege that fredom over the others?
@conraderb Well for one the freedom to run for office is not specificly stated in the constitution. Second you have 2 understand that the 2A is the "Teeth" of our constitution, its what gives us the ability to protect all our other rights from all those who would seek to strip us of those rights. The 2A isn't about hunting or self defense, its about protecting our rights, it was important enuff for the founders to give it its own amendment second only 2 freedom of speech.
@NeverEnuffAmmo Theoretically, yes, the 2nd is the teeth. However, practically, that argument only makes sense if we could ever see the citizens rise against the government. In the war of US Forces vs. Joe Citizen, we both know the forces will win. So, for me, the 2A doesn't give much teeth - the teeth is a healthy democracy. The insistence of carrying just because it says so in the constitution makes as much sense as opening a coffee shop on the corner ... just because you can.
@conraderb Its not theoretical, the revolutionary war is proof of that. A small civilian force defeated the largest, most powerful military in the world. Not to mention have u ever heard of something called the Oath Keepers? Latest numbers show that about 40% of military personel would NOT engage in tactics against US citizens. Now hopefully we will never know for sure, but I stand by the original intent of the constitution because without it we would just be a colony of Britian.
@NeverEnuffAmmo Interesting. We sure could have used some Oath Keepers back in WWII when all of the American citizens of Japanese ancestry were rounded up like animals...thanks for sharing.
If Obama gets reelected, he will send UN troops house to house with body armor and automatic rifles to take our guns away. Rifles, handguns and shotguns don't penetrate body armor, so we will be disarmed quite easily. Basically we are screwed. I hope we enjoy our freedoms while they last.
I would love to carry everyday, but even with a lawfully obtained CHL in Texas, firearms training, & years of experience, I am still prohibited by statute from carrying where I work, which is at a public university. Which is where I believe I should carry the most, being a law abiding citizen, I would never bring it on campus. When lawmakers & administrators make their own laws or rules from prohibiting law abiding citizens from protecting themselves, that is what I have a problem with.
@Mr1MOA I know what u mean, it makes no sense when someone willing to do something evil won't pay attention to the law but yet those that will will be left defensless in a bad situation
Great video Matt, I'm lucky I live in Arizona where we have a Constitutional Carry Law. I can carry concealed at any time without a CCW. But I do have a CCW permit for faster checkouts at Cabelas..LOL
I already commented but this one will be the substitute for the second and third like on this video that Youtube doesn't acknowledge, AWESOME VIDEO, keep it up
It is an amazing change of pace to see a video on the 2nd Amendment that I can honestly say I AGREE 100% ON! your the man, totally subscribing, keep it up
@NeverEnuffAmmo First, thanks for the vid. The more intelligent people promoting responsible gun ownership and carry will set the standard. With that said, most accidents occur while loading and unloading. By clearing the chamber, it seems like you are creating a potential accident. Why unload each time?
@rb2112002 Honestly, its something stupid and uneccesary done for the youtube "safety nazis" who think it should be done everytime a gun is on camera, I no longer do that anymore in my videos, this just happens to be an older video
@NeverEnuffAmmo I figured it was something like that. I didnt want to sound like a safety nazi either, but sometimes perceived safety is not as good as real safety (if thats makes sense). How do you like the M+P? I have shot the sigma, and being an almost perfect Glock copy, (they got sued if the stories are true) the results are predictable. I never shot the M+P though.
@rb2112002 Imagine something just as durable, reliable, functional & accurate as a Glock but is more ergonomic, better looking and comes with a lifetime warranty that follows the gun not the owner, thats the M&P. Now I still love my G17 but its just not the gun the M&P is.
@NeverEnuffAmmo Yea, I never have got used to the Glock trigger. One of my carry guns is a G26, and been a great gun. Glocks have never been my favorite though. I might take another look at the M+P.
I'm glad I watched this video.... I'm seriously considering a gun purchase and this video definitely makes me stop and think. I absolutely agree with your thoughts of exercising the 2nd amendment in our republic.
@TheBadAssKiller I have several guns. I carry (concealed) and i love the right to bear arms but I really dont mind the fact that violent offenders or mentally ill people are restricted from owning firearms. Even though those people can still aquire guns, it seperates legitamate gun owners from those who own illegaly.
@Sandbag1300 Thats hard to do because the legal ramifications for that depend greatly on where u live ..... in Texas for instance where I live, we have laws that prevent criminal charges and civil suits from being brought onto someone who used their gun in self defense, and in TX we also have laws allowing us to defend property with lethal force, many states don't have those kinds of laws and u have to know what the laws are where u live to know what u can and can't legally do
Its sad because I would probably support a bunch of gun laws if I believed they were really created just to protect people. But it seems like those laws are just there to gradually take guns away all together. Its really dishonest, the whole anti gun movement. Take private gun sales at gunshows, in my gut I dont like that ANYONE can buy a gun there, but I dnt thnk Id back laws to change it because its just step towards a total disarm
@lithjimmy REGARDLESS of your reason for gun control law(s)... Criminals will NEVER give up their guns and therefore ANY kind of gun control law is a BAD IDEA!! A law to keep guns out of honest peoples possession will entice criminals even MORE to carry out their evil acts! THINK about out it... if YOU were a criminal with an intention to take out someone or several people... if you KNEW they all were carrying guns, would that deter you from your plan? I bet it would!! GET A GUN & GET TRAINED!!!
Im pretty liberal and I carry at all times. Just thought Id mention that. I actually do like the background checks, i feel like it protects me as a gun owner by helping to keep guns away from violent or mentally ill people. Obviously those people can still get guns off the street, but they cant get lumped in with legitimate firearm owners. Thats why we encourage permit holder to get trained and know the law so they dont make us look bad.
@johnmed3 Well hopefully she or you, will never be in a situation where she learns first hand why u do that, but I'm sure she at least trusts your judgment
This is true, especially towards the end when he talks about how the amount of people who carry and own a firearm, tells the goverment that it will be difficult that the people support it.
I think you protect against harm in the rigorous background checks on individuals and the training argument is self-explanitory, in that you have to go through weapons training.
@hlgrice Background checks do nothing because criminals don't buy guns from FFL dealers, they either buy in private sales (where background checks are not required), steal them or buy from other criminals. All a background check does is discourage criminals from trying to buy from FFL dealers.
@hlgrice As for training, that's an individual choice, there is no, and can be no standard training for everyone, not to mention that the 2nd A does not say "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, unless proper training has not completed" ..... if we were still being raised the way we used to, to where our parents taught us to use and respect firearms as the tools they are from the time we were children, like many of us were, then training is not an issue.
@hlgrice Legally, a license is: "The permission granted by competent authority to exercise a certain privilege that, without such authorization, would constitute an illegal act, a trespass or a tort. -or- The certificate or the document itself that confers permission to engage in otherwise proscribed conduct." Notice that this allows the exercise of a *privelege*. For this reason states usually call it a concealed weapon PERMIT, not a *license*. The distinction IS important.
@hlgrice There are many licenses which have nothing to do with safety or training: fishing license, certain FCC radio licenses, automobile licenses, business licenses, etc. It often involves simply raising revenue or identifying or limiting the numbers of persons engaged in some activity.
I agree 150% with everything you said. This is why I hate Canada and its stupid Liberal Party. Thanks to them and the Firearms Act, I cant carry a gun on my person except inside my own home. Further, if you use that gun in self-defense, they rarely ever consider it as such. A man got his house firebombed and he discharged a firearm intending only to scare them off. My best understanding is he got his license revoked and guns confiscated. Total bullshit f you ask me. I should be allowed to carry!
@NeverEnuffAmmo A disturbing thought, that one is. I know NY states laws are pretty strict, same with Illinois and a few others. All I can say is thank GOD I am not in Quebec or in the UK. Uk's laws are insanse. I found out I could actually go to jail for carrying my knife on me over there. Crazy, I don't even feel safe up here but if I go over there, im really not gonna feel safe.
@tvercetti1 Where I live, that's grounds to shoot a man....legaly! No one can think of a reason other than to do grave bodily harm to someone if he/she is trying to burn down an occupied building.
@MavHunter20XX Well that's the way it should be but NO! Some pathetic bunch of f***ing pussies decided that grabbing some guns and forming up a posse to go hunt down and kill the mother eff-ers that torched your house/tried to kill you isn't fair to the criminals! Like WTF is that stupid shit? I am just supposed to settle for being a victim and wait for police? Yeah... here's how I feel about that: I aint getting thrown into a body bag over some ridiculous bullshit. Period.
@tvercetti1 I understand what you are saying, and that you should be allowed to protect yourself on your own property, but i tend to disagree with the idea of have a weapon on you at all times. I am just a person who works in a customer service at a restaurant, I don't want to be the one that gets on the bad side of a person who is carrying a gun on them, and they are out there. But I fully agree that you should be allowed to protect yourself on your own property.
having a concealed handgun permit is pretty much so that the government can keep track of those with guns and more importantly those that carry them secretly.Just like registering guns with the government.Why the HELL does the government have to know what guns we have.I know why.Because they want to know who they can label as a threat to their security.
Why do I carry with a CWP? Well in the event that the law must be involved I would rather tip the scales of judgement in my favor while under scrutiny. However. A CWP would not stop me from protecting myself or carry if i choose to. Even the requirement of a CWP is in fact an infringement of our right to bear arms. The law itself imposes the infringement. The government is a runaway DC motor. It will self destruct.
@TheMicroknight I have to agree with u, it's unfortunate that we have to apply for a license to enjoy a freedom guaranteed to us by the builders of this country.
open carry only leads to good abiding citizen being an easy target for criminals..
conceal carry doesn't. Why do you think robbers kills the security guard first.cause they see they are armed and has a gun...got nothing against open carry, but conceal carry is still the best option for me.
@musikofthesoul I agree, I perfer concealed carry over open carry for those exact same reasons. But I do think it's important to have people become used to the sight, or the knowlage that people are carrying, and should carry a gun as a responsible citizen.
@NeverEnuffAmmo in milwaukee, open carry is the only option and yea, it does put the citizen at a disadvantage against the criminal. it also may lead to that person having a police officers pistol pointed at them just for carrying.
@mycrimsonregrets Unfortunately thats the reaction people who open carry get, and it's also why more people should do it so that it isn't something strange or unusual to the public.
@NeverEnuffAmmo yea, it's kind of sad. i am hoping that concealed carry becomes an option, i know it up for discussion right now and hope it goes though. also wouldn't mind our state to finally get a castle doctrine put in place as well.
@musikofthesoul You make a good valid point, heres my opinion if mostly everyone had a open carry firearm on hand I believe this would make would be criminals think twice about committing a crime. This is why everyone needs to express their second amendment right to bare arms. Although this could back fire and large-scale firefights could erupt in the streets. Again this is just my opinion.
@thechevyscrounger i do not wish to go into a debate about w/e you think the US did in europe, as it still has got nothing to with the issue of what we are talking about. and no, there is a difference in between a professional military and a citizen.
@lleuwelynn Thats one point of view. I personally would rather conceal carry, as opposed to open carry, and thats what I do. The point of open carry is 2 fold, 1) to allow for carry of firearms to where everyone, citizens and police officers will know who is and isn't armed, 2) so that those people who don't carry realize, and become used to the sight of a gun as right to carry as protectied under the constitution. Some may carry as a overcompensation, but thats not the point of the 2nd A.
@NeverEnuffAmmo you speak in your video about responsibility over others. so that means in open public places. lets say in that public restaurant you were talking about and a robber walks in, waving a gun. lets see what possible outcomes there could be: a) you dont react the robber gets away with everyone's wallets. b) you decide to pull out the gun and you trigger a fire fight, which will very likely harm innocent bystanders. that's right, those same ppl you were aiming to protect.
@lleuwelynn Owning and carrying a gun is about responsibility & if your the type of person who is going to pull out & wave a gun around in front of people to save a few wallets, then u shouldn't have a gun. I think u severly underestimate the intelligence of gun owners, which I almost find offensive. A gun in the hands of a responsible citizen is there to protect life & liberty, not property. But yes it is a responsibility which the founders entrusted to all of us who are of capable mind & body.
@NeverEnuffAmmo well ok so there is the hypothetical situation: so the robber gets out the gun in a public place (btw this is the situation that you scetched yourself). So you dont take out your weapon unless the other starts firing already? in reality, the usage of guns so far that ive seen was just all about protecting property.
@lleuwelynn Then u are severly missinformed, it's about protecting life, not property. If someone breaks into my house and I fear for my life, or my family's lives because I don't know if he is there to harm or steal, then I shoot the intruder, if however I come home to see someone running away from my house holding a jewlery box, I call the cops, I don't shoot him. So here we are again, u are making blind, ignorant, and offensive judgements based on your own bias.
@NeverEnuffAmmo well ok so there is the hypothetical situation: so the robber gets out the gun in a public place (btw this is the situation that you scetched yourself). So you dont take out your weapon unless the other starts firing already? in reality, the usage of guns so far that ive seen was just all about protecting property. it seems to me you are confused of the thin line you would find justified to use your own gun or not.
@NeverEnuffAmmo as for the second amendment: you forget the time when it was created. at that time the US didnt have its own military, and didnt have any police force. and they were still on very enemy grounds with the british. the main reason why the founding fathers made such an amendment so they could rally an army of civilians at least for when the next war occurs. different reasons, different times. btw, being a liberal is still not a crime.
@lleuwelynn You are completely incorrect. The 2nd A was created to protect our natural right by merely being born to protect ourselves as ordinary citizens from any threat, but most especially from a corrupt government, because thats what they saw first hand, and thats something that doesn't change over time. Having more police or military actually adds to the need for the 2nd A because it adds more power to the government therefore according to the 2nd A, we the people should have the
@lleuwelynn Having more police or military actually adds to the need for the 2nd A because it adds more power to the government therefore according to the 2nd A, we the people should have the ability to protect themselves from that potential threat in case our very own govt. ever decided to do to us what Britian did to them. That it the point of the 2nd A.
@lleuwelynn We by merely being born have the right to life, and by extention we have the right to protect that life as an ordinary citizen from any and all that would seek to hurt that life. The 2nd A merely says that since guns are the weapon of choice to be used by those that would seek to cause harm, criminals, thieves, and especially a corrupt govt. that therefore we the people have the right to arm ourselves as well as anyone to be able to protect ourselves and this country.
@lleuwelynn BTW I never said being a liberal is illegal, I just don't see why I can sit here and respect everything a liberal thinks is important, gay rights, abortion, legalized weed ....etc. & not try and stick my nose into their business & in fact have before & will again state that I will help u get your rights, yet I have all these nosey liberals wanting to take away the right that I hold close to me. I think it's very much a double standard. BTW I'm not a concervative, I'm a libertarian
@lleuwelynn So next time u want to "School" someone on the 2nd Amendment, make sure u actually understand what it really means and not what u want it to mean before u open your mouth.
@lleuwelynn I said nothing about a philosophy, I stated facts. If u are speaking of what I said about respecting others way of life, I actually have vids up where I state that I would gladly march for gay rights if liberals would stand up and march for my right to keep and bear arms. If u watched more than one of my vids before deciding to ignorantly pass judgement on me then u would know that.
@NeverEnuffAmmo nope u stated a philosophy.nothing of what you have written has got anything to back it up. fact is that there is very little written about the mindset of the ppl behind the written letter of the 2nd amendment. therefor, the most practical reason is most likely the one that has been used. that means no military, no police, so the ppl better have guns to at least have something to protect themselves and be ready for the next conflict. + i didnt judge any of other beliefs.
@lleuwelynn Actually the government had already been formed in 1781, 10 years before the 2nd A was instituted in 1791, there was already a president, John Hanson, there was already a military in place, and most every state and township had militia or police in place. The 2nd A had nothing to do with that, the 2nd A is broeken into 2 parts, part 1) A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State part 2) the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
@NeverEnuffAmmo the oldest police station was erected in 1838, in Boston. further on, the remaining militia were voluntary citizens, far from being well regulated.
@lleuwelynn Police as they are known today, back then they were called sheriffs or constables and there were plenty of them, they had deputies and often used the local militia when needed. Either way there were law enforcement officials during that time period, and that still had nothing to do with the 2nd A, the 2nd A had to do with the federal govt. not local or even state govt. Once again please don't attempt to lecture me on my country, as I wouldn't do the same to u because your wrong.
@NeverEnuffAmmo wrong. there is a difference in between sheriffs and police. at least back then. sheriffs were elected volunteers who were very oftenly not even payed. police as a fulltime payed and professional police force came much later. the title "constable" was most definitly not used to pinpoint a sheriff or any of his deputies. one could also say that the 2nd amendment was targeted upon those sheriffs because they were elected volunteered citizens. fun :)
@lleuwelynn Your wrong, plain and simple, I never said sheriffs and constables were the same thing, I said they were the equivilent back then of what police are today, they helped enforce and protect the law, as I said they were Law Enforcement. Stop being hung up on every little word and see the big picture, facts are that the 2nd A is not outdated, it was intended to be relevent regardless of the situation, so once again your wrong. Those are facts, not opinion.
@lleuwelynn do u even understand what the 2nd A pertains to? Do u understand that it was not a right given by the govt. it was a rule that the govt had to live up to. It means we already had the right to keep & bear arms, it was simply saying that the federal govt. couldn't take that right away. I said nothing about local or state govt. which is why different states have different gun laws.
@lleuwelynn (continued) so it clearly states that first we need a militia outside of the already in place military made up of citizens to protect ourselves from a corrupt government, and it also says that the people natural born right to keep and bear arms will not be infringed upon by the govt. because that would be a form of tyranny. Please don't presume to teach me the history of my own country, stick to your own country, I don't preach to u about Belgium .......
@NeverEnuffAmmo those militia were already there, the sherrifs u know... And i have been in too many debates with gun owners already who tried to preach me about belgium too but who still cant get over the fact we have one of the lowest crime rates in the world without gun crazyness.
@lleuwelynn I said nothing about the crime rate in belgium, in fact I clearly stated that I would never presume to lecture u about your country as u have tried to do to me, I realize I know nothing about belgium, just as u obviously know nothing about the US, or our guns laws.
@NeverEnuffAmmo there is indeed a lot of the ins and outs about the US that i dont know. but the gun debate inside the US has already gone outside the borders of the US that it reaches our newspapers over here as well. And what i do know about gun laws in the US is that they are very debatable on both moral and legal grounds.
@lleuwelynn There is no debate on the guns laws eithe legally or morally, the 2nd amendment has been upheld time and time again by the US Supreme Court, in fact it was just upheld again in June of 2010, less than a year ago that gun bans go against the 2nd A and are unconstitutional. The only thing up for debate is people personal opinions of those laws and that is irrelevent because we are dealing with legal issues and facts, neither of which are in dispute. So again your wrong.
@NeverEnuffAmmo so as long as its unconstitutional its not debatable? and why should that be irrelevant? so the "we the people" somewhere in there only fits for those that agree with it? the fact that it even had to go to supreme court it means that it is indeed a very heated debate.
@lleuwelynn As I said it's debatable as far as opinion goes, but we're talking facts here, not opinion.My opinion is that weed should be legalized, but that doesn't make it happen, or even make it the right thing to do, because thats just my opinion, and if I wanted to I could hire good lawyers and take through every level of the court system until it goes to the Supreme Court and it would still get struck down. Not to mention that thats not something guaranteed in the constitution like 2A is.
@NeverEnuffAmmo fact is also that i am absolutely not the only one who feels this way, even inside your own borders. and fact is also that if the opinions are so much divided about this subject, ppl should stop hiding behind the constitution and actually parttake in the real debate in what is or is not morally accepted by the majority of the people.
@lleuwelynn They already have, and thats why we still have the 2nd A, the constitution is able to be ratified and changed at anytime, however the mass majority of people in the US like it the way it is which is why it has not changed. It is only a small minority that want guns banned, why don't u understand that, if it was the majority then guns would have been banned long ago.
@lleuwelynn Do u understand the difference between Majority and minority. There are many more people that want the 2nd A the way it is, the only reason it went before the Supreme Court is because it was a Mayor for the city of Chicago trying to ban guns, he took it to the supreme court and lost, oh and by the way, he isn't mayor anymore either.
@lleuwelynn So agin I'll ask, if your going to talk about opinion and not facts or legality then u should stop the convedrsation, because I won't change my feeling based on your opinions, and nobody else will either. It will take facts and hard statistics to even get a gun owners attention, and your not providing any of that, in any way, it's all your opinion, and that means nothing to me.
@lleuwelynn Yes I do, because u are interjecting your opinions as someone who does not live here, or apparently believe in our constitution and your speaking of them as fact when they are not.
@lleuwelynn ... essentially what this conversation boils down to is your opinion of what the second amendment means, and considering thats coming from someone who knows nothing about it, your opinion means nothing, it is irrelevent. So if u insist on continuing to try and preach about your opinion then make sure u state it as an opinion and not fact because it isn't fact as u state it. I'm more than willing to have a civil conversation, when your ready to stop acting like an expert when your not
@lleuwelynn So once again u, a liberal, have proven that u are just as stubborn, ignorant, and unwilling to see the other side of things, as the very people u claim to be against on the other side of the aisle. U have proven your double standard by passing judgement on me and assuming u know my beliefs, when u know nothing. I am a far more tolerant person than u, I can actually not just tolerate, but gladly help out and get along with people who's opinions and lifestyle differs from mine.
@NeverEnuffAmmo and you, as right winger, have assumed i made judgement upon any of your other beliefs without me even passing one word about them. you have proven that once again you need to find reasons to defend yourself where there were none. kind of the situation for guns in ur country. this whole debate here is about nothing else but guns. anything else is just your own assumption.
@lleuwelynn No u started talking about being liberal as if I were saying it was a crime to be liberal, and I simply stated that not only don't I have a problem with liberals, but I would gladly go to bat over the rights liberals hold dear if they stopped the double standard and did the same for me as far as gun rights go. And if u knew how to read u would have seen in my other comment where I specificly said I'm not a right wing republican, I'm a libertarian, whos philosophy is live & let live.
@lleuwelynn If however u are speaking of what I said about what the 2nd A means then I simply stated facts as they are well known in this country. That is what the second amendment means, it's not up for debate, it is a fact.
@NeverEnuffAmmo also, the easier guns are to obtain for the public, the easier they also are for criminals. you may say whatever you want about the so-called thoroughness of background checks and tracking down of weapons: look at the gun shows. I saw documentaries on here about legal gun sellers in gun shows who sold 360 guns in a day without doing any background check. + ppl who collect guns are also more attractive for robbers.
@lleuwelynn Never said anything about background checks, and once again u completely miss the point, it has nothing to do with gun crime, statistics actually show that the more legal, responsible gun owners there are in an area the less crime there is, it is an actual fact. Chicago and DC both had crime rates skyrocket when they instituted gun bans. Switzerland has the lowest crime rate in the world, it also happens to have a law that everyone must own a gun, thats a fact.
@NeverEnuffAmmo fact is also that the peaceful areas are already more peaceful with or without gun owners. In those areas, owning a gun doesnt even make less sense. its just like:"hey i have this pink rock, and it keeps away elephants....and then another guy says "ur joking".... and then you go "do you see any elephants around here"? And basically Europe has an overall lower crime rate then the US, and we dont have a predominant gun culture. that is also a fact.
@lleuwelynn Then explain why when the supreme court ruled that the gun ban in washington DC was unconstitutional last year did crime rates drop by more than 10% in the following 6 months, and are still continuing to drop to this day. Once again u are just making up bullshit, while I am presenting facts, u are a biggoted, ignorant, liberalist who has no tolorence for anyone different from u in beliefs, and have to make things up to defend your side of the argument because u have no facts.
@NeverEnuffAmmo a temporary reaction, nothing more. and i did not make up bullshit when i stated overall europe has lower crime rates without having that significant of a gun culture.
@lleuwelynn See now there u go making things up again to fit your side of the argument, u have no proof whatsoever that it is a temporary reaction, any more than I can say it's not, but yet u will still say it as fact, when I can admit that we will have to wait and see over time if it makes a long term difference. Why can't u just say, I understand your side of the argument but feel differently, and we agree to disagree. Your more concerned with being right at any cost than admitting the truth.
@NeverEnuffAmmo you were the one that called me bigoted and biased in the first place, oh and ignorant too...
I look at it this way: if you change the rules in the classroom, the students will first try to test the borders of the new rules. and you did not initiate the "i understand your side of the argument" too. In fact, you wanted me to believe randomly that your crime rate theory was a true fact. its only in this latest comment that you are admitting you are not sure of it anymore.
@lleuwelynn I said that the fact are that in those places where there are more legal gun owners the crime rates are less than the places where there were gun bans, I said chicago and DC along with Switzerland, what I stated was a fact because the crime rates are lower, I never said they would stay that way or claimed to know the future, u on the other hand said clearly that it had nothing to do with gun control, so your the one who presumed to know something he couldn't know, those are the facts
@NeverEnuffAmmo you state this in a way as if crime rate and gun control-or ownership are all on the same line. It is so far the most dead used stereotype argument most gun owners give. at least when i look on youtube. without giving any aspect of a thought that having a lower crime rate in certain area might have something to do with other aspects in society then just whether or not you have a gun.
@lleuwelynn I only state facts, and areas in this country where legal gun ownership is more prevelant, and where there are less gun restriction, there is a direct corilation to crime rates being lower in those areas. In addition to that fact is the fact that areas that instituted gun bans saw dramatic rises in crime rates while those areas where there were guns bans that had been lifted saw crime rates drop. So how do u explain it? 2+2=4 in this case not 7, it's just common sense.
@NeverEnuffAmmo lots of other factors come in hand too when it comes to crime rates. for example areas with large poverisation, ghettoforming, strategic areas for drug traffic, the general wealthness of an area, the common attitude of the population, also the different interpretations of what is considered to be a crime or not so it gets recorded to be a crime or not in the first place. lots of other factors and im just grabbing out of the bag right now. not facts too?
sell said.
22781dave 6 days ago
GREAT VID!!
jaywill771 1 week ago
@jaywill771 Thanks bro
NeverEnuffAmmo 1 week ago
I have my concealed carry license and I totally agree with being able to bare arms but if the government wants to come after you and your family, there's no gun you can carry to stop them. They have numbers and weapons we could only dream of owning. It's like bringing a knife to a gun fight.
filcox 1 week ago
@pete5668 I have felt the same way you have Pete and I felt as if the UN wanted to take a stand against,we would be helpless even with non armor piercing ammo,but consider the resistance we've had with Iraq and Afghanistan and they are not armed like the American public (some 88% ownership) and we as a people are just plain tough when the chips are down! So don't be too dismayed...You're an American!
"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter" —James Bond—
libertyss35 2 weeks ago
@r3volutionaryairsoft I was raised the exact same way you were and have done the same with my children.I've removed the curiosity about guns and have explained the consequences when they are mishandled and have instilled a healthy respect in them for firearms. Well put "don't kid proof your guns,gun proof your kids" and I have daughters that are very confident because of it. I've used the same ideology about other things in life that when handled improperly can lead to painful,even lethal conse
libertyss35 2 weeks ago
NeverEnoughAmmo ....what you wanted to say in one stream of consciousness. Great job and thanks again for this video!
libertyss35 2 weeks ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo Your message is exactly how I feel,except that you said it better than I ever could. Very professional and you don't come off sounding like an extremist.You point out that it's very American to own a gun and not a liberal or conservative issue. It's about preserving the Republic. You have a sound approach to a divisive issue. I listen to a lot of talk radio and could see you doing well in a major metro morning radio show.Especially here in Texas.You should consider it. You said
libertyss35 2 weeks ago
Great video!
libertyss35 2 weeks ago
@libertyss35 Glad ya liked it, thanks 4 watching
NeverEnuffAmmo 2 weeks ago
Great video and all great points you have made. I firmly believe that if we would loose our Second Amendment rights that would be the end of our great country as we know it. There are just way to many Liberal wackjob lawmakers nowadays that want to disarm us and seem to have pity on violent criminals. Join the NRA, get a concealed carry permit and buy a gun that suits you and get firearms training. You'll be helping to preserve what the founding fathers gave us. God Bless.
charger19691 1 month ago
@charger19691 I absolutely agree, thanks 4 watching
NeverEnuffAmmo 1 month ago
a big problem with owning a gun with a family is that kids will eventually get a hold of the guns and things happen. I lived near a family who owned a mini uzi and their kid got a hold of it and killed him self while playing with it. Im not saying that this will happen to every family with small children, but this is a reason why almost every family will not conceal carry. If you asked my neighbors they'd look at you like your crazy like I have a 5 and 7 year old are you crazy?!?
R3volutionaryAirsoft 1 month ago
@R3volutionaryAirsoft Well I have 3 kids between the ages of 2 and 12 and they've all been around guns since they were born but I was smart enough & intelligent enough to teach my children about the seriousness of firearms and taught them to be responsible. I don't think u understand how many hundreds of thousands of kids are raised in homes with guns in them by responsible parents every year. The people who have tragedy happen were irresponsible gun owners.
NeverEnuffAmmo 1 month ago 2
@R3volutionaryAirsoft I got a hold of my dad's guns all the time when I was kid. And he was right there with me, teaching me how to be safe, and showing me EXACTLY what happens you point a gun at something and pull the trigger.
Gun proof your kids, don't try to kid proof your guns, you'll only set yourself up for tragedy.
MikeReiner 1 month ago
I don't have a concealed carry license. I conceal carry or even open carry. What ev's
Cbertian 1 month ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo Good point, sir. Good to know. Thanks for the information.
SierraTangoGuns 1 month ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo Really now? The guy at my local gun shop said I'm not really supposed to be able to buy it.
SierraTangoGuns 1 month ago
@SierraTangoGuns Not from an FFL but from an individual in a private sale u can buy. The law in Tx says that it is legal for anyone over the age of 18 to own or purchase a handgun, but since the FFL's are bound by federal guidelines saying that they can't sell to anyone under 21 they can't sale to u. They probably said that cause they want u to get someone to buy it from them to gift it to u and they make maney, which they don't make if u go buy from someone else.
NeverEnuffAmmo 1 month ago
Good ol' Texas boy myself. I've recently learned that while I technically can't purchase a handgun under the age of 21, whether its from an FFL or not, I can, however, possess a handgun legally if one is given to me as a gift. Granted the weapon itself is legal, of course. Great video, brother. You have a new subscriber.
SierraTangoGuns 1 month ago
@SierraTangoGuns Well its always good to hear from a fellow Texan. You can also buy a handgun in a private sale if your over 18. That is Texas law, but it unfortunately doesn't apply to FFL's since tey are bound by Federal law. Now some people don't like to sell to people under the age of 21 but thats just a personal thing. So if u want u can buy a handgun in Tx without it being a gift.
NeverEnuffAmmo 1 month ago
I do have a concealed weapon permit in my state of Alabama, but it says on the back of it that "this permit does not allow you to carry openly" however Alabama is a friendly open carry state, which doesnt make any sense. if anything it gives me the impression that i have the option to conceal/and or open carry. i dont understand how a permit could take away my right to open carry.
The1911Junkie 1 month ago
@The1911Junkie I guess the easiest way to fix it is to not take your CCW premit with u when u open carry
NeverEnuffAmmo 1 month ago
God bless Texas!
tjplusproductions 1 month ago
@tjplusproductions Absolutely!
NeverEnuffAmmo 1 month ago
I own and carry a gun at times. You are doing a public service by posting this video. Whiny liberals who watch this and complain would never understand our founding fathers. On a recent trip to Williamsburg we were reminded once again of our great nation and how brilliant the signers and framers were. Thanks! Tom
tjplusproductions 1 month ago
guns arent allowed at all where im from :(
TheMostStupidVids 1 month ago
@TheMostStupidVids Well then its time to move
NeverEnuffAmmo 1 month ago 3
@NeverEnuffAmmo As a firearm owner myself (seven in total now) the responsibility issue makes sense to me. But claiming the 2nd Amendment absolutely does not make sense to me. You have the freedom to bear arms, yes, but you also have the freedom to run for government office, or start a petition, or do hundreds of other things that you are free to do. And yet, I'm sure that you aren't running for office. What is it about the 2nd Amend. that makes you privilege that fredom over the others?
conraderb 1 month ago
@conraderb Well for one the freedom to run for office is not specificly stated in the constitution. Second you have 2 understand that the 2A is the "Teeth" of our constitution, its what gives us the ability to protect all our other rights from all those who would seek to strip us of those rights. The 2A isn't about hunting or self defense, its about protecting our rights, it was important enuff for the founders to give it its own amendment second only 2 freedom of speech.
NeverEnuffAmmo 1 month ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo Theoretically, yes, the 2nd is the teeth. However, practically, that argument only makes sense if we could ever see the citizens rise against the government. In the war of US Forces vs. Joe Citizen, we both know the forces will win. So, for me, the 2A doesn't give much teeth - the teeth is a healthy democracy. The insistence of carrying just because it says so in the constitution makes as much sense as opening a coffee shop on the corner ... just because you can.
conraderb 1 month ago
@conraderb Its not theoretical, the revolutionary war is proof of that. A small civilian force defeated the largest, most powerful military in the world. Not to mention have u ever heard of something called the Oath Keepers? Latest numbers show that about 40% of military personel would NOT engage in tactics against US citizens. Now hopefully we will never know for sure, but I stand by the original intent of the constitution because without it we would just be a colony of Britian.
NeverEnuffAmmo 1 month ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo Interesting. We sure could have used some Oath Keepers back in WWII when all of the American citizens of Japanese ancestry were rounded up like animals...thanks for sharing.
conraderb 1 month ago
@conraderb Thanks 4 watching, I appreciate the conversation
NeverEnuffAmmo 1 month ago
Yay! for the responsibility @3 1/2 min!
6 min, well regulated means you as the Militia will be well trained, check yourself. Yall read the Federalists Papers.
The Prince chapter 10 forward will help yall in coalescing your thoughts concerning your liberty.
XGCScrappy 1 month ago
If Obama gets reelected, he will send UN troops house to house with body armor and automatic rifles to take our guns away. Rifles, handguns and shotguns don't penetrate body armor, so we will be disarmed quite easily. Basically we are screwed. I hope we enjoy our freedoms while they last.
pete5668 1 month ago
@pete5668 You don't already have a survival plan? Bloody the nose of a bully does wonders for everyone else. API, PTLPTA
XGCScrappy 1 month ago
@XGCScrappy What is API or ptlpta?
pete5668 1 month ago
@XGCScrappy application program interface? praise the lord and pass the ammo?
pete5668 1 month ago
@XGCScrappy the UN troop will kill you before you kill it.
pete5668 1 month ago
@pete5668 ooh I was about to write out a wager, but after reading the last 3 posts. I'll reply to this post.
I don't give a 1/2 cent about the UN. What I will do is stop aggression before me. I know the "UN" has no heart for the well being of people.
I know I'm going home when I die. Do you know where your home is?
XGCScrappy 1 month ago
Great video by the way!!!!
Mr1MOA 2 months ago
I would love to carry everyday, but even with a lawfully obtained CHL in Texas, firearms training, & years of experience, I am still prohibited by statute from carrying where I work, which is at a public university. Which is where I believe I should carry the most, being a law abiding citizen, I would never bring it on campus. When lawmakers & administrators make their own laws or rules from prohibiting law abiding citizens from protecting themselves, that is what I have a problem with.
Mr1MOA 2 months ago
@Mr1MOA I know what u mean, it makes no sense when someone willing to do something evil won't pay attention to the law but yet those that will will be left defensless in a bad situation
NeverEnuffAmmo 2 months ago
I do have one but I feel that it is violating our Constitutional rights to not be able to carry anywhere in this country.
HollyTNUSA 2 months ago
Great video Matt, I'm lucky I live in Arizona where we have a Constitutional Carry Law. I can carry concealed at any time without a CCW. But I do have a CCW permit for faster checkouts at Cabelas..LOL
djs694 2 months ago
@djs694 Yeah for me thats half the benefit of having a CHL, not havinf to go through all the background BS when buying a gun
NeverEnuffAmmo 2 months ago
would you rather be judged by 12, or carried by 6? and when seconds count the police are always minutes away.
toughpinoy 2 months ago
@toughpinoy Exactly
NeverEnuffAmmo 2 months ago
I already commented but this one will be the substitute for the second and third like on this video that Youtube doesn't acknowledge, AWESOME VIDEO, keep it up
jkgoet01 2 months ago
It is an amazing change of pace to see a video on the 2nd Amendment that I can honestly say I AGREE 100% ON! your the man, totally subscribing, keep it up
jkgoet01 2 months ago
@jkgoet01 Thanks alot I really appreciate that, thanks 4 watching
NeverEnuffAmmo 2 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo First, thanks for the vid. The more intelligent people promoting responsible gun ownership and carry will set the standard. With that said, most accidents occur while loading and unloading. By clearing the chamber, it seems like you are creating a potential accident. Why unload each time?
rb2112002 2 months ago
@rb2112002 Honestly, its something stupid and uneccesary done for the youtube "safety nazis" who think it should be done everytime a gun is on camera, I no longer do that anymore in my videos, this just happens to be an older video
NeverEnuffAmmo 2 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo I figured it was something like that. I didnt want to sound like a safety nazi either, but sometimes perceived safety is not as good as real safety (if thats makes sense). How do you like the M+P? I have shot the sigma, and being an almost perfect Glock copy, (they got sued if the stories are true) the results are predictable. I never shot the M+P though.
rb2112002 2 months ago
@rb2112002 Imagine something just as durable, reliable, functional & accurate as a Glock but is more ergonomic, better looking and comes with a lifetime warranty that follows the gun not the owner, thats the M&P. Now I still love my G17 but its just not the gun the M&P is.
NeverEnuffAmmo 2 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo Yea, I never have got used to the Glock trigger. One of my carry guns is a G26, and been a great gun. Glocks have never been my favorite though. I might take another look at the M+P.
rb2112002 2 months ago
@MrJbvetter Thanks bro, I appreciate it!
NeverEnuffAmmo 3 months ago
I'm glad I watched this video.... I'm seriously considering a gun purchase and this video definitely makes me stop and think. I absolutely agree with your thoughts of exercising the 2nd amendment in our republic.
ke4rit 3 months ago
@ke4rit Glad u liked the vid, I appreciate u watching
NeverEnuffAmmo 3 months ago
Good points man.
dan944 5 months ago
@dan944 Thanks bro
NeverEnuffAmmo 5 months ago
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@TheBadAssKiller I have several guns. I carry (concealed) and i love the right to bear arms but I really dont mind the fact that violent offenders or mentally ill people are restricted from owning firearms. Even though those people can still aquire guns, it seperates legitamate gun owners from those who own illegaly.
lithjimmy 5 months ago
And... JOIN THE NRA!!! Support the NRA to help us all in keeping our guns AND the 2nd Amendment!!
TheBadAssKiller 5 months ago
If you haven't already, please do a video on the legal and civil consequences of CCW, brandishing, and using a CCW to injure or kill someone.
Sandbag1300 6 months ago
@Sandbag1300 Thats hard to do because the legal ramifications for that depend greatly on where u live ..... in Texas for instance where I live, we have laws that prevent criminal charges and civil suits from being brought onto someone who used their gun in self defense, and in TX we also have laws allowing us to defend property with lethal force, many states don't have those kinds of laws and u have to know what the laws are where u live to know what u can and can't legally do
NeverEnuffAmmo 6 months ago
Its sad because I would probably support a bunch of gun laws if I believed they were really created just to protect people. But it seems like those laws are just there to gradually take guns away all together. Its really dishonest, the whole anti gun movement. Take private gun sales at gunshows, in my gut I dont like that ANYONE can buy a gun there, but I dnt thnk Id back laws to change it because its just step towards a total disarm
lithjimmy 6 months ago
@lithjimmy REGARDLESS of your reason for gun control law(s)... Criminals will NEVER give up their guns and therefore ANY kind of gun control law is a BAD IDEA!! A law to keep guns out of honest peoples possession will entice criminals even MORE to carry out their evil acts! THINK about out it... if YOU were a criminal with an intention to take out someone or several people... if you KNEW they all were carrying guns, would that deter you from your plan? I bet it would!! GET A GUN & GET TRAINED!!!
TheBadAssKiller 5 months ago 6
Im pretty liberal and I carry at all times. Just thought Id mention that. I actually do like the background checks, i feel like it protects me as a gun owner by helping to keep guns away from violent or mentally ill people. Obviously those people can still get guns off the street, but they cant get lumped in with legitimate firearm owners. Thats why we encourage permit holder to get trained and know the law so they dont make us look bad.
lithjimmy 6 months ago
Very well done Matt. I carry every day, my wife still does not understand, why I need to chamber a round and carry extra mag(s).
johnmed3 6 months ago
@johnmed3 Well hopefully she or you, will never be in a situation where she learns first hand why u do that, but I'm sure she at least trusts your judgment
NeverEnuffAmmo 6 months ago
This is true, especially towards the end when he talks about how the amount of people who carry and own a firearm, tells the goverment that it will be difficult that the people support it.
Magnum4554 7 months ago
@Magnum4554 Thanks, glad u liked the vid
NeverEnuffAmmo 7 months ago
I think you protect against harm in the rigorous background checks on individuals and the training argument is self-explanitory, in that you have to go through weapons training.
hlgrice 7 months ago
@hlgrice Background checks do nothing because criminals don't buy guns from FFL dealers, they either buy in private sales (where background checks are not required), steal them or buy from other criminals. All a background check does is discourage criminals from trying to buy from FFL dealers.
NeverEnuffAmmo 7 months ago 5
@hlgrice As for training, that's an individual choice, there is no, and can be no standard training for everyone, not to mention that the 2nd A does not say "the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, unless proper training has not completed" ..... if we were still being raised the way we used to, to where our parents taught us to use and respect firearms as the tools they are from the time we were children, like many of us were, then training is not an issue.
NeverEnuffAmmo 7 months ago
The purpose of "a license" is to 1. protect against harm and 2. ensure proper training. It doesn't matter what type of license.
hlgrice 7 months ago
@hlgrice Legally, a license is: "The permission granted by competent authority to exercise a certain privilege that, without such authorization, would constitute an illegal act, a trespass or a tort. -or- The certificate or the document itself that confers permission to engage in otherwise proscribed conduct." Notice that this allows the exercise of a *privelege*. For this reason states usually call it a concealed weapon PERMIT, not a *license*. The distinction IS important.
maxfirepower 5 months ago
@hlgrice There are many licenses which have nothing to do with safety or training: fishing license, certain FCC radio licenses, automobile licenses, business licenses, etc. It often involves simply raising revenue or identifying or limiting the numbers of persons engaged in some activity.
maxfirepower 5 months ago
I agree man. It is our right. Ask the Jew of Germany during 1934-1945. The goverment took their guns. Is the UK, Canada, or Japan next?
jpdolezal 7 months ago
@jpdolezalI know exactly what u mean
NeverEnuffAmmo 7 months ago
good stuff! very informative and thought provoking.
omegafox84 8 months ago
I agree 150% with everything you said. This is why I hate Canada and its stupid Liberal Party. Thanks to them and the Firearms Act, I cant carry a gun on my person except inside my own home. Further, if you use that gun in self-defense, they rarely ever consider it as such. A man got his house firebombed and he discharged a firearm intending only to scare them off. My best understanding is he got his license revoked and guns confiscated. Total bullshit f you ask me. I should be allowed to carry!
tvercetti1 8 months ago
@tvercetti1 I understand what your saying, if it was up to alot of politicians here we would be in the same situation.
NeverEnuffAmmo 8 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo A disturbing thought, that one is. I know NY states laws are pretty strict, same with Illinois and a few others. All I can say is thank GOD I am not in Quebec or in the UK. Uk's laws are insanse. I found out I could actually go to jail for carrying my knife on me over there. Crazy, I don't even feel safe up here but if I go over there, im really not gonna feel safe.
tvercetti1 8 months ago
@tvercetti1 Where I live, that's grounds to shoot a man....legaly! No one can think of a reason other than to do grave bodily harm to someone if he/she is trying to burn down an occupied building.
MavHunter20XX 7 months ago
@MavHunter20XX Well that's the way it should be but NO! Some pathetic bunch of f***ing pussies decided that grabbing some guns and forming up a posse to go hunt down and kill the mother eff-ers that torched your house/tried to kill you isn't fair to the criminals! Like WTF is that stupid shit? I am just supposed to settle for being a victim and wait for police? Yeah... here's how I feel about that: I aint getting thrown into a body bag over some ridiculous bullshit. Period.
tvercetti1 7 months ago
@tvercetti1 I hear you.
MavHunter20XX 7 months ago
@MavHunter20XX Thanks! Glad to know I aint the only one.
tvercetti1 7 months ago
@tvercetti1 come to the land of the "not AS enslaved"
ArmedOkie 7 months ago
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@ArmedOkie Wish I could... wish I could.
tvercetti1 7 months ago
@tvercetti1 I understand what you are saying, and that you should be allowed to protect yourself on your own property, but i tend to disagree with the idea of have a weapon on you at all times. I am just a person who works in a customer service at a restaurant, I don't want to be the one that gets on the bad side of a person who is carrying a gun on them, and they are out there. But I fully agree that you should be allowed to protect yourself on your own property.
EmeraldStoneStudios 7 months ago
having a concealed handgun permit is pretty much so that the government can keep track of those with guns and more importantly those that carry them secretly.Just like registering guns with the government.Why the HELL does the government have to know what guns we have.I know why.Because they want to know who they can label as a threat to their security.
sarge958 8 months ago
i love guns but i have to wait 71/2 years
MrNateman89 8 months ago
can you explain the 2nd amendment to the Illinois gov't cause there is no carry here at all no open or conceal.
Dz493 8 months ago
@Dz493 Unfortunately I think they already know what the 2nd A means, but they just choose to ignore it.
NeverEnuffAmmo 8 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo sadly yea. there was a bill in play but lost by 6 votes for conceal carry
Dz493 8 months ago
Why do I carry with a CWP? Well in the event that the law must be involved I would rather tip the scales of judgement in my favor while under scrutiny. However. A CWP would not stop me from protecting myself or carry if i choose to. Even the requirement of a CWP is in fact an infringement of our right to bear arms. The law itself imposes the infringement. The government is a runaway DC motor. It will self destruct.
TheMicroknight 8 months ago
@TheMicroknight I have to agree with u, it's unfortunate that we have to apply for a license to enjoy a freedom guaranteed to us by the builders of this country.
NeverEnuffAmmo 8 months ago
open carry only leads to good abiding citizen being an easy target for criminals..
conceal carry doesn't. Why do you think robbers kills the security guard first.cause they see they are armed and has a gun...got nothing against open carry, but conceal carry is still the best option for me.
musikofthesoul 9 months ago
@musikofthesoul I agree, I perfer concealed carry over open carry for those exact same reasons. But I do think it's important to have people become used to the sight, or the knowlage that people are carrying, and should carry a gun as a responsible citizen.
NeverEnuffAmmo 9 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo in milwaukee, open carry is the only option and yea, it does put the citizen at a disadvantage against the criminal. it also may lead to that person having a police officers pistol pointed at them just for carrying.
mycrimsonregrets 9 months ago
@mycrimsonregrets Unfortunately thats the reaction people who open carry get, and it's also why more people should do it so that it isn't something strange or unusual to the public.
NeverEnuffAmmo 9 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo yea, it's kind of sad. i am hoping that concealed carry becomes an option, i know it up for discussion right now and hope it goes though. also wouldn't mind our state to finally get a castle doctrine put in place as well.
mycrimsonregrets 9 months ago
@musikofthesoul You make a good valid point, heres my opinion if mostly everyone had a open carry firearm on hand I believe this would make would be criminals think twice about committing a crime. This is why everyone needs to express their second amendment right to bare arms. Although this could back fire and large-scale firefights could erupt in the streets. Again this is just my opinion.
Insaneguitar2nd 9 months ago
I think they should allow open carry
ryebread1980 9 months ago
@ryebread1980 Yeah alot of places do, not sure why others don't.
NeverEnuffAmmo 9 months ago
i bet if you checked in to it ,you would find that them gun loving Americans ,pulled belgiums ass out of the mud in WWll
thechevyscrounger 9 months ago
@thechevyscrounger that has nothing to do with your gun laws, as it were your military that did it, not your plain citizens.
lleuwelynn 9 months ago
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thechevyscrounger 9 months ago
@thechevyscrounger i do not wish to go into a debate about w/e you think the US did in europe, as it still has got nothing to with the issue of what we are talking about. and no, there is a difference in between a professional military and a citizen.
lleuwelynn 9 months ago
main reason why ppl want to carry guns openly is to show off 100% machoness. end of story.
lleuwelynn 10 months ago
@lleuwelynn Thats one point of view. I personally would rather conceal carry, as opposed to open carry, and thats what I do. The point of open carry is 2 fold, 1) to allow for carry of firearms to where everyone, citizens and police officers will know who is and isn't armed, 2) so that those people who don't carry realize, and become used to the sight of a gun as right to carry as protectied under the constitution. Some may carry as a overcompensation, but thats not the point of the 2nd A.
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo you speak in your video about responsibility over others. so that means in open public places. lets say in that public restaurant you were talking about and a robber walks in, waving a gun. lets see what possible outcomes there could be: a) you dont react the robber gets away with everyone's wallets. b) you decide to pull out the gun and you trigger a fire fight, which will very likely harm innocent bystanders. that's right, those same ppl you were aiming to protect.
lleuwelynn 10 months ago
@lleuwelynn Owning and carrying a gun is about responsibility & if your the type of person who is going to pull out & wave a gun around in front of people to save a few wallets, then u shouldn't have a gun. I think u severly underestimate the intelligence of gun owners, which I almost find offensive. A gun in the hands of a responsible citizen is there to protect life & liberty, not property. But yes it is a responsibility which the founders entrusted to all of us who are of capable mind & body.
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo well ok so there is the hypothetical situation: so the robber gets out the gun in a public place (btw this is the situation that you scetched yourself). So you dont take out your weapon unless the other starts firing already? in reality, the usage of guns so far that ive seen was just all about protecting property.
lleuwelynn 10 months ago
@lleuwelynn Then u are severly missinformed, it's about protecting life, not property. If someone breaks into my house and I fear for my life, or my family's lives because I don't know if he is there to harm or steal, then I shoot the intruder, if however I come home to see someone running away from my house holding a jewlery box, I call the cops, I don't shoot him. So here we are again, u are making blind, ignorant, and offensive judgements based on your own bias.
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo well ok so there is the hypothetical situation: so the robber gets out the gun in a public place (btw this is the situation that you scetched yourself). So you dont take out your weapon unless the other starts firing already? in reality, the usage of guns so far that ive seen was just all about protecting property. it seems to me you are confused of the thin line you would find justified to use your own gun or not.
lleuwelynn 10 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo as for the second amendment: you forget the time when it was created. at that time the US didnt have its own military, and didnt have any police force. and they were still on very enemy grounds with the british. the main reason why the founding fathers made such an amendment so they could rally an army of civilians at least for when the next war occurs. different reasons, different times. btw, being a liberal is still not a crime.
lleuwelynn 10 months ago
@lleuwelynn You are completely incorrect. The 2nd A was created to protect our natural right by merely being born to protect ourselves as ordinary citizens from any threat, but most especially from a corrupt government, because thats what they saw first hand, and thats something that doesn't change over time. Having more police or military actually adds to the need for the 2nd A because it adds more power to the government therefore according to the 2nd A, we the people should have the
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@lleuwelynn Having more police or military actually adds to the need for the 2nd A because it adds more power to the government therefore according to the 2nd A, we the people should have the ability to protect themselves from that potential threat in case our very own govt. ever decided to do to us what Britian did to them. That it the point of the 2nd A.
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@lleuwelynn We by merely being born have the right to life, and by extention we have the right to protect that life as an ordinary citizen from any and all that would seek to hurt that life. The 2nd A merely says that since guns are the weapon of choice to be used by those that would seek to cause harm, criminals, thieves, and especially a corrupt govt. that therefore we the people have the right to arm ourselves as well as anyone to be able to protect ourselves and this country.
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@lleuwelynn BTW I never said being a liberal is illegal, I just don't see why I can sit here and respect everything a liberal thinks is important, gay rights, abortion, legalized weed ....etc. & not try and stick my nose into their business & in fact have before & will again state that I will help u get your rights, yet I have all these nosey liberals wanting to take away the right that I hold close to me. I think it's very much a double standard. BTW I'm not a concervative, I'm a libertarian
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@lleuwelynn So next time u want to "School" someone on the 2nd Amendment, make sure u actually understand what it really means and not what u want it to mean before u open your mouth.
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo dont make up philosophies that you cannot back up.
lleuwelynn 10 months ago
@lleuwelynn I said nothing about a philosophy, I stated facts. If u are speaking of what I said about respecting others way of life, I actually have vids up where I state that I would gladly march for gay rights if liberals would stand up and march for my right to keep and bear arms. If u watched more than one of my vids before deciding to ignorantly pass judgement on me then u would know that.
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo nope u stated a philosophy.nothing of what you have written has got anything to back it up. fact is that there is very little written about the mindset of the ppl behind the written letter of the 2nd amendment. therefor, the most practical reason is most likely the one that has been used. that means no military, no police, so the ppl better have guns to at least have something to protect themselves and be ready for the next conflict. + i didnt judge any of other beliefs.
lleuwelynn 10 months ago
@lleuwelynn Actually the government had already been formed in 1781, 10 years before the 2nd A was instituted in 1791, there was already a president, John Hanson, there was already a military in place, and most every state and township had militia or police in place. The 2nd A had nothing to do with that, the 2nd A is broeken into 2 parts, part 1) A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State part 2) the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo the oldest police station was erected in 1838, in Boston. further on, the remaining militia were voluntary citizens, far from being well regulated.
lleuwelynn 9 months ago
@lleuwelynn Police as they are known today, back then they were called sheriffs or constables and there were plenty of them, they had deputies and often used the local militia when needed. Either way there were law enforcement officials during that time period, and that still had nothing to do with the 2nd A, the 2nd A had to do with the federal govt. not local or even state govt. Once again please don't attempt to lecture me on my country, as I wouldn't do the same to u because your wrong.
NeverEnuffAmmo 9 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo wrong. there is a difference in between sheriffs and police. at least back then. sheriffs were elected volunteers who were very oftenly not even payed. police as a fulltime payed and professional police force came much later. the title "constable" was most definitly not used to pinpoint a sheriff or any of his deputies. one could also say that the 2nd amendment was targeted upon those sheriffs because they were elected volunteered citizens. fun :)
lleuwelynn 9 months ago
@lleuwelynn Your wrong, plain and simple, I never said sheriffs and constables were the same thing, I said they were the equivilent back then of what police are today, they helped enforce and protect the law, as I said they were Law Enforcement. Stop being hung up on every little word and see the big picture, facts are that the 2nd A is not outdated, it was intended to be relevent regardless of the situation, so once again your wrong. Those are facts, not opinion.
NeverEnuffAmmo 9 months ago
@lleuwelynn do u even understand what the 2nd A pertains to? Do u understand that it was not a right given by the govt. it was a rule that the govt had to live up to. It means we already had the right to keep & bear arms, it was simply saying that the federal govt. couldn't take that right away. I said nothing about local or state govt. which is why different states have different gun laws.
NeverEnuffAmmo 9 months ago
@lleuwelynn (continued) so it clearly states that first we need a militia outside of the already in place military made up of citizens to protect ourselves from a corrupt government, and it also says that the people natural born right to keep and bear arms will not be infringed upon by the govt. because that would be a form of tyranny. Please don't presume to teach me the history of my own country, stick to your own country, I don't preach to u about Belgium .......
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo those militia were already there, the sherrifs u know... And i have been in too many debates with gun owners already who tried to preach me about belgium too but who still cant get over the fact we have one of the lowest crime rates in the world without gun crazyness.
lleuwelynn 9 months ago
@lleuwelynn I said nothing about the crime rate in belgium, in fact I clearly stated that I would never presume to lecture u about your country as u have tried to do to me, I realize I know nothing about belgium, just as u obviously know nothing about the US, or our guns laws.
NeverEnuffAmmo 9 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo there is indeed a lot of the ins and outs about the US that i dont know. but the gun debate inside the US has already gone outside the borders of the US that it reaches our newspapers over here as well. And what i do know about gun laws in the US is that they are very debatable on both moral and legal grounds.
lleuwelynn 9 months ago
@lleuwelynn There is no debate on the guns laws eithe legally or morally, the 2nd amendment has been upheld time and time again by the US Supreme Court, in fact it was just upheld again in June of 2010, less than a year ago that gun bans go against the 2nd A and are unconstitutional. The only thing up for debate is people personal opinions of those laws and that is irrelevent because we are dealing with legal issues and facts, neither of which are in dispute. So again your wrong.
NeverEnuffAmmo 9 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo so as long as its unconstitutional its not debatable? and why should that be irrelevant? so the "we the people" somewhere in there only fits for those that agree with it? the fact that it even had to go to supreme court it means that it is indeed a very heated debate.
lleuwelynn 9 months ago
@lleuwelynn As I said it's debatable as far as opinion goes, but we're talking facts here, not opinion.My opinion is that weed should be legalized, but that doesn't make it happen, or even make it the right thing to do, because thats just my opinion, and if I wanted to I could hire good lawyers and take through every level of the court system until it goes to the Supreme Court and it would still get struck down. Not to mention that thats not something guaranteed in the constitution like 2A is.
NeverEnuffAmmo 9 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo fact is also that i am absolutely not the only one who feels this way, even inside your own borders. and fact is also that if the opinions are so much divided about this subject, ppl should stop hiding behind the constitution and actually parttake in the real debate in what is or is not morally accepted by the majority of the people.
lleuwelynn 9 months ago
@lleuwelynn They already have, and thats why we still have the 2nd A, the constitution is able to be ratified and changed at anytime, however the mass majority of people in the US like it the way it is which is why it has not changed. It is only a small minority that want guns banned, why don't u understand that, if it was the majority then guns would have been banned long ago.
NeverEnuffAmmo 9 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo well appearantly not, as it went before supreme court, and in the end it was just one judge who decided over right and wrong.
lleuwelynn 9 months ago
@lleuwelynn Do u understand the difference between Majority and minority. There are many more people that want the 2nd A the way it is, the only reason it went before the Supreme Court is because it was a Mayor for the city of Chicago trying to ban guns, he took it to the supreme court and lost, oh and by the way, he isn't mayor anymore either.
NeverEnuffAmmo 9 months ago
@lleuwelynn So agin I'll ask, if your going to talk about opinion and not facts or legality then u should stop the convedrsation, because I won't change my feeling based on your opinions, and nobody else will either. It will take facts and hard statistics to even get a gun owners attention, and your not providing any of that, in any way, it's all your opinion, and that means nothing to me.
NeverEnuffAmmo 9 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo and you accuse me of being stubborn, lol.
lleuwelynn 9 months ago
@lleuwelynn Yes I do, because u are interjecting your opinions as someone who does not live here, or apparently believe in our constitution and your speaking of them as fact when they are not.
NeverEnuffAmmo 9 months ago
@lleuwelynn ... essentially what this conversation boils down to is your opinion of what the second amendment means, and considering thats coming from someone who knows nothing about it, your opinion means nothing, it is irrelevent. So if u insist on continuing to try and preach about your opinion then make sure u state it as an opinion and not fact because it isn't fact as u state it. I'm more than willing to have a civil conversation, when your ready to stop acting like an expert when your not
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@lleuwelynn So once again u, a liberal, have proven that u are just as stubborn, ignorant, and unwilling to see the other side of things, as the very people u claim to be against on the other side of the aisle. U have proven your double standard by passing judgement on me and assuming u know my beliefs, when u know nothing. I am a far more tolerant person than u, I can actually not just tolerate, but gladly help out and get along with people who's opinions and lifestyle differs from mine.
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo and you, as right winger, have assumed i made judgement upon any of your other beliefs without me even passing one word about them. you have proven that once again you need to find reasons to defend yourself where there were none. kind of the situation for guns in ur country. this whole debate here is about nothing else but guns. anything else is just your own assumption.
lleuwelynn 10 months ago
@lleuwelynn No u started talking about being liberal as if I were saying it was a crime to be liberal, and I simply stated that not only don't I have a problem with liberals, but I would gladly go to bat over the rights liberals hold dear if they stopped the double standard and did the same for me as far as gun rights go. And if u knew how to read u would have seen in my other comment where I specificly said I'm not a right wing republican, I'm a libertarian, whos philosophy is live & let live.
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@lleuwelynn If however u are speaking of what I said about what the 2nd A means then I simply stated facts as they are well known in this country. That is what the second amendment means, it's not up for debate, it is a fact.
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo also, the easier guns are to obtain for the public, the easier they also are for criminals. you may say whatever you want about the so-called thoroughness of background checks and tracking down of weapons: look at the gun shows. I saw documentaries on here about legal gun sellers in gun shows who sold 360 guns in a day without doing any background check. + ppl who collect guns are also more attractive for robbers.
lleuwelynn 10 months ago
@lleuwelynn Never said anything about background checks, and once again u completely miss the point, it has nothing to do with gun crime, statistics actually show that the more legal, responsible gun owners there are in an area the less crime there is, it is an actual fact. Chicago and DC both had crime rates skyrocket when they instituted gun bans. Switzerland has the lowest crime rate in the world, it also happens to have a law that everyone must own a gun, thats a fact.
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo fact is also that the peaceful areas are already more peaceful with or without gun owners. In those areas, owning a gun doesnt even make less sense. its just like:"hey i have this pink rock, and it keeps away elephants....and then another guy says "ur joking".... and then you go "do you see any elephants around here"? And basically Europe has an overall lower crime rate then the US, and we dont have a predominant gun culture. that is also a fact.
lleuwelynn 10 months ago
@lleuwelynn Then explain why when the supreme court ruled that the gun ban in washington DC was unconstitutional last year did crime rates drop by more than 10% in the following 6 months, and are still continuing to drop to this day. Once again u are just making up bullshit, while I am presenting facts, u are a biggoted, ignorant, liberalist who has no tolorence for anyone different from u in beliefs, and have to make things up to defend your side of the argument because u have no facts.
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo a temporary reaction, nothing more. and i did not make up bullshit when i stated overall europe has lower crime rates without having that significant of a gun culture.
lleuwelynn 10 months ago
@lleuwelynn See now there u go making things up again to fit your side of the argument, u have no proof whatsoever that it is a temporary reaction, any more than I can say it's not, but yet u will still say it as fact, when I can admit that we will have to wait and see over time if it makes a long term difference. Why can't u just say, I understand your side of the argument but feel differently, and we agree to disagree. Your more concerned with being right at any cost than admitting the truth.
NeverEnuffAmmo 10 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo you were the one that called me bigoted and biased in the first place, oh and ignorant too...
I look at it this way: if you change the rules in the classroom, the students will first try to test the borders of the new rules. and you did not initiate the "i understand your side of the argument" too. In fact, you wanted me to believe randomly that your crime rate theory was a true fact. its only in this latest comment that you are admitting you are not sure of it anymore.
lleuwelynn 9 months ago
@lleuwelynn I said that the fact are that in those places where there are more legal gun owners the crime rates are less than the places where there were gun bans, I said chicago and DC along with Switzerland, what I stated was a fact because the crime rates are lower, I never said they would stay that way or claimed to know the future, u on the other hand said clearly that it had nothing to do with gun control, so your the one who presumed to know something he couldn't know, those are the facts
NeverEnuffAmmo 9 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo you state this in a way as if crime rate and gun control-or ownership are all on the same line. It is so far the most dead used stereotype argument most gun owners give. at least when i look on youtube. without giving any aspect of a thought that having a lower crime rate in certain area might have something to do with other aspects in society then just whether or not you have a gun.
lleuwelynn 9 months ago
@lleuwelynn I only state facts, and areas in this country where legal gun ownership is more prevelant, and where there are less gun restriction, there is a direct corilation to crime rates being lower in those areas. In addition to that fact is the fact that areas that instituted gun bans saw dramatic rises in crime rates while those areas where there were guns bans that had been lifted saw crime rates drop. So how do u explain it? 2+2=4 in this case not 7, it's just common sense.
NeverEnuffAmmo 9 months ago
@NeverEnuffAmmo lots of other factors come in hand too when it comes to crime rates. for example areas with large poverisation, ghettoforming, strategic areas for drug traffic, the general wealthness of an area, the common attitude of the population, also the different interpretations of what is considered to be a crime or not so it gets recorded to be a crime or not in the first place. lots of other factors and im just grabbing out of the bag right now. not facts too?
lleuwelynn 9 months ago