Russian Christians under attack_Oct 27 2008

[Abbadon380]

were ALL FUCKING CHRISTIANS WHY ARE WE FUCKING PERSECUTING EACH OTHER AND another thing THE FUCKIN CREATIONISTS ARE NUTS THE BELEIVE THE WORLD IS ACTUALLY 6000 YRS OLD

[sevsen4]

+Russia is Orthodox.

[3SRBIJACCCC]

@Armadistic Poor western brainwashed soul.

[thegreendestiny]

Lol. Protestants are not really Christians and should be not be allowed to exist in a Christian country.

[kavaldzhia]

... сектанты

[conradthekiller]

KNOWING GOD AND JESUS IS ETERNAL LIFE

[3SRBIJACCCC]

Poor western propaganda.

[Coemgen1950]

Patriarch Kirill has no understanding of the rule of law or the separation of church and state. He has turned the Orthodox Faith into a continuation of Soviet Ideology.

[christo88white]

god bless all of christian nations...may god save your souls and help you my russian brothers.your brother chris from armenia..

[MenechemShaul]

May they be Comforted by the words of Messiah "Blessed are those who are persecuted!"

[ByzantineCrusader]

Can someone show me an Al Jazera documentary of how Egyptian Coptics are being treated in Egypt. With EXTENSIVE details? Or the situation in Sudan, and the SLAVERY of Christians in those parts of the World??? And the title is misleading It's not Russian "CHRISTIANS" that are under "attack", it's PROTESTANTS who are being cracked down on "attacking". It's like saying MUSLIMS(Bahai, and other Muslim heretics) are under attack in Iran.

[SpankbankINC]

I have studied a Messianic Jew who has restored the Ancient Hebrew Calender. In it he predicts there will be a Nuclear War in the Middle east about a month from now. Damascus will be destroyed. and Russian army slaughtered. That is a prediction not a prophecy. I pray that God will preserve what is his. Avoid service in the Russian army when it goes to the middle-east.

[TheSauronator]

@SpankbankINC

What does Russia have to do with the Middle east? Only US and Israel wage war in the middle east against some arabs. Russia does not throw its army into unrelated conflicts.

[AGDIRGIA]

@SpankbankINC Where's the nuclear war? It has been a month.

[SpankbankINC]

@AGDIRGIA Fourtnately the prediction date was wrong. But the prophecy still stands. Gog and Magog has to be Russia. I would be highly suprised if its anyone else.

[MrRobokoper]

Orthodoxy or Death!!!

[sweetyboybryan2255]

@MrRobokoper Would Jesus want that?!?!?!

[MrRobokoper]

@sweetyboybryan2255 That not wondering me you are US Protestant you hate Catholic Church you hate Orthodox Church you hate Muslims! And I don't like yours modern christian rock music! We are different!

[sweetyboybryan2255]

@MrRobokoper for one im no protestant Christians were around way before the catholic church-orthodox and i do not hate the orthodox and catholic church! most of my friends are catholic and i dont hate them! and i do not whatsoever hate muslims my best friend is muslim! ughh think!

[sickofgod69]

Silly religious idiots. The only reason to allow religion in secular society is so we know who and where the pedophiles are.

[NataliaPro]

@sickofgod69 In fact, it's an inventory of morons in the country.

[NataliaPro]

Now the protestants. Look, if the city authorities oppressed them, would they let them have huge Lutheran and Baptist churches right in the center of the city, huh? Those Christians feel fine :)

The government only forbids totalitarian sects, which I believe is right.

"Thу country's going down and down", lol. Sure, haha..

[NataliaPro]

I don't know what the aim of this video is, but it's definitely not telling the truth.

Sure, the Orthodox church is the most powerful religious organization here for most Russian are Orthodox. But we also have Muslims (in fact, there are Muslim regions here like Tatarstan, Bashkiria, the most of Caucasus, etc. Also a lot of mosques in other regions), Buddhist (two big regions: Buryatia and Kalmykia), Jews. In Moscow we have 2 big Catholic churches.

[UnoRaza]

@NataliaPro The Freemasons have a habit of starting new offshoots of Christianity and I'm sure others, to keep the people divided; it's an old trick.

Is it not almost hysterical to see Christians telling each other they're going to Hell for being fake?@?

Is it about the BEHAVIOR, or our perceived recipe for Christs' clothing?

[NataliaPro]

@UnoRaza Lol, I'm sure Christianity itself is a big Jewish joke on us. I won't put my reasons here, though, for I have absolutely no intention of being beaten by religious fanatics :P

[TheSauronator]

Thats right, we dont need the fucking multitude of protestant cults, armies of salvation, mormons, jehova's eyewitnesses etc.

Thats what the US is for - go there and practice your religion - whatever it may be.

[saftaromanul]

we orthodox people have a tradittion of 2000 years we are the last remaining cristians, even our name of orthodox tells it ! greetings from orthodox Romania

[crytekengine]

i dont understand why the hell those americans and protestants come to a christian orthodox country to teach them about christ? they can go to africa or north kroea or even china?but coming to a country thats orthodox for more than 1000 years to teach them about a new fictional protestant Christ aint funny and should not be tolerated

[NataliaPro]

Moreover, some protestant preaches are really aggressive towards the Orthodox. Not that it's their policy and not that every preacher does so, but still... This video is such a lie..

[Slidetuba]

@crytekengine I'm an American.. And I say this.. Why should the Protestants try to bring God, someplace where he's always been??

И да, я православный христианин ..

[hetmans1]

Catholics actually have extremely violent history of ruling by the sword and waging war, extermination of innocents and forced conversion - if the bible, God and Jesus doesn't give them this right then who does?????

[cheekkiller]

The Russian orthodox church have to grovn after all those yeras with communist religous haters.

[elizzzluv]

PS

I don't dislike ppl w/different religions.

But we need to know historical facts the

way have shaped our world today.

[elizzzluv]

Yea catholics allright...

Who siesed Constandinopole in one of their crusades in 1024?

Against fellow christians. They never recover, becoming easy target to the

Ottomnas till the fall in 1453.

catholics allways rule w/the sowrd. They

extriminate the natives in the New World

(Americas) and the reformation by Louther

and Calvin to protestanism had a reason.

And I hate the pope's supremacy btw orthodox priest are getting married having children and grandchildren. NOTHING,s wrong w/that

[n8n8n8n8n8n8n8n8n8n8]

It sickens me how the media portrays the Protestants and Catholics as the real persecuted people of Russia because a church was shut down, or the government does not recognize them. What the current government does is not right, but the media is blowing it way out of proportion.

Just 70 years over 100,000 Orthodox priests were either shot, boiled in tar, scalped, crucified, or forced to drink molten lead. Monasteries were converted into gulags to punish countless other faithful.

[Nosferatuonline]

This is nothing but one more example of how the Russian authorities are failing to respecting the human rights and religious freedom.And this is not happening only in Russia, but all over the Eastern Europe, a place where tribalism and intolerance are at their home. Calling others heretics only because they do not share the same faith with you is politically incorrect and shows intolerance and extremism. Not to mention that in a democracy the Church must be separated from the State.

[milonow]

orthodox church was founded by christ through peter. "you are the rock on which i will build my church". We orthodox have not strayed away from that in any way. Orthodoxy is the oldest and only church that was founded. Ever since the great schism between east and west, thats where all these heretics came from. Remember, beware of the wolves disguised in sheeps clothing. Christ warned us about false christian teachings. I highly recommend you seriously educate yourself in orthodox history.

[Cannabinoidl]

or burn in hell? the dispute is over minorly differing methods, evry1 has diff points of view, the important thing is to do good deeds, isn't that what religion teaches? maybe you don't think the others are right but isn't it important to still be a good person? anyone has the right to worship their own god however they choose, surely god would frown on such petty persecution, the people who denounce all other religions... they are the true heretics, and also small minded clutching bigots...

[Cannabinoidl]

and the orthodoxy being the "oldest" church is highly debatable, maybe the oldest documented, but many records have been known to become lost in times of war,

[Nosferatuonline]

Catholics claim the same thing.Ant it still remains a CLAIM which shows intolerance, extremism and is in contradiction with the Human Rights.But Russia, just like all the Eastern Europe are still laying back when it comes to respecting others' civil rights, in all aspects , not only with regard to religion

[Sergei91]

Orthodox church was founded by mortal men and satan enablers....the church of Jesus Christ which rock is Peter is the true church which does not use images or icons and infant baptism, but rather uses worship that is 100% Biblical...and no denomination is 100% Biblical today....but the most close ones are Evangelical and Reformed Baptist.

[RomanovMartyrs]

I'd like to contest that Orthodoxy was the first Christian church, icons were used while Christ was alive (to depict John the Baptist) and that it was founded by the Apostles. So please do some history research before claiming some branch of Protestantism to be closest to God.

I am not trying to discredit your belief, I respect your opinion, but I am telling you the facts. :) God bless.

[sweetyboybryan2255]

@milonow lies because the orthodox is more of a church of corruption for one christian churches are the church of Jesus Christ they were the first chrches of Jesus Christ beside the jews but, onece they were spread in Rome Greece ect. The Christian Church was corrupted with practices and ideas that are not from the bible! The Orthodox Chrurch is what Christ Warned of!!! besides christians worship god with the bible not nothing else invented just the bible!!!

[stunnerrocker]

@milonow i just wanna ask, i read an article, you guys are decreasing in population? pls oh pls don't let the muslims get rid of you Christians. i saw and heard here in news that muslims are taking over your place. are some of your people doing something about it?are you guys giving in by their rules? because you know,that's their plan 10yrs ago if you didn't know, they really planned to migrate and invade. saw a video of their leader telling them the plan.

[RevSolTV]

@milonow imo peters rock was his faith...

[Prime23Number]

All Christians -- Catholics, Protestants, Orthodox -- must heed Jesus' words: "This is my commandment, love one another as I have loved you". This wasn't a suggestion; it was a commandment.

[admoonhermiz]

im not sure but protestant hate the other christioan, and the dont believe that we all christains.

[Sergei91]

No protestants don't hate, protestants are the most Biblically correct church...and they never hate, they rebuke and correct, they can't call someone Christian if they are not, other churchers worship pictures, promote sin, and don't follow Christ but follow their own desires, if the truth hurts, it hurts......

[sirjohn2u]

ORTHODOXIA!

[fmoa]

this protestant priest are money hungry..they want to control the offerings by themselfs..eastern orthodox use those money to built cathedrals for the people..i would say russia is right chasing this protestants out n stay wit the true n oldest christian sect in history..ive seen protestant priest driving expensive cars..but ive seen orthodox priest at building sites helping out building churches..chase em out russia..

[superstudjock]

When you start thinking like that then you show you aren't a christian at all, sir fmoa. A christian is humble, he certainly does not chase some one out of a country solely on their beliefs, that makes one a tyrant.

[NJRocks281]

money hungry..are you fucking kidding me? Have you ever been in a protestant church? They are the most rustic modest churches in Christendom.

[SadronAphaderuiondur]

There is one very thing I don't understand: if the Orthodox Church holds 70% of Russian population, and the Protestant churches represent only something between 1% and 2%, why do they feel threaten? Are these minorities growing so fast?

Well, what I know is that Protestants survived the tzars, and also survived to the Soviets. Wh wouldn't we survive to Putin's Kremlin?

[Sergei91]

We don't survive by our power, we survive by God's grace, and even if we die, what is death to them is life for us, they can only kill our flesh, which is a favor by the way ;).....

by God's grace lives will get saved.....

[1ockedand1oaded]

man if this were one year ago i'd reply:

BECAUSE THEY CAN'T COUNT!

luckily im more civilised then that so i wont comment!

[georgekonyev]

Racist, is the word to describe this video. the ROC has never harrassed any denomination. ever.

+ Bishop

[timothas2008]

Atheists and protestants are evil. We must return to the True Church , THE ORTHODOX CHURCH

[Sergei91]

Im sorry sir, but we do not worship icons and statues, and we do not trample Christs teaching to the floor, and we do not create Co-redeemers with God like Mary, for the Bible only speaks of Christ as savior and redeemer, I am the way, the truth and the life, no one goes to The Father except through Me!

so who is evil now?

[timothas2008]

Keep Russia Orthodox

Orthodoxy For Eternity!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dimaniak]

christianity is more like tradition here not true religion

[dimaniak]

most people in russia are atheists so this is just pure propaganda against russian state

[MuslimApostate]

u obviously don't live in russia then.

[dimaniak]

I do. No one of my friend or colleagues or relatievs are religious.

Only muslims are religous here. . 80-90% of slavic population are atheists or just formally christians but never go to church except for wedding and other such things.

[MuslimApostate]

suuuure it is.

[dimaniak]

sorry dude but you look like blind fanatic

[MuslimApostate]

and you just a dumb westener pretending to be a russian based on how you talk. But in any case fanatic is all based on who u asked. I'm sure those godless atheist communists who started so many wars and causeed so much bloodshed are consideed fanatics to most religious people though to atheists they are freedom fighters.

[rozbrad]

I speak blessings of Salvation, faith, hope and protection over the Saints of Russia. Angels, cover and protect each and everyone of them, hear their individual and prospective cry for help, For God is not slack concerning His promises, also I Pray for the new converts that have yet to give their hearts to Christ, keep the word audible for those who have an ear to hear, thus saith the Lord. In Jesus Name Amen.

[Nephilim145]

Amen. I know God is watching over those people in Russia, was well as Vietnam and China who constantly suffer for the true faith in christ jesus. Hopefully one day I will join them in their suffering.

[Vajrasiddha]

Fuck faith, practice Morality, this is the teaching of the Buddhas.

[MuslimApostate]

fuck your fat little buddha and his dalai lama butt buddy. Tibet is china bitch!

[Vajrasiddha]

Mohamud kafir ben chot.

Placing Korans in gas station toilets just to see if the Islamic owners will go Jihad and blow up their own store. May more muslims jihad themselves into oblivion, then less assholes.

The stone of the Ka'a ba is petrified camel shit, how many fuck'tards have placed their lips on that?

Giving new meaning to Eat shit and Die.

[MuslimApostate]

Hey if you can't take the heat then go back to where you came from. Like the abortion bucket.

Buddha condones abortion so it shouldn't be a problem^_^

[cortezawwris]

Wow such western propaganda news. Why should Russia allow a non-native faith(western churches, which many don't even consider christian) That used by westerner spread there goals and go after native Muslim,tribal and orthodox faiths. If your not there western faith your going to hell is what they belive.

[teo208]

The western so-called "churches" are extremely aggressive! And intolerant! But they demand tolerance from others!

Orthodoxy for ever!

[EverythingZen14]

We are called to love our enemies and to suffer for the sake of righteousness. This is not what the Russian Church is doing. I am embarrassed for my brethren who participate in any kind of ill-will towards anyone.

[EverythingZen14]

I might add that this sort of action and attitude is entirely unOrthodox and anti-Christian. We are no better than those heterodox who do us wrong.

[MuslimApostate]

this is al jazeera smart one lol. Not western.

[cortezawwris]

jazeere is western owned and funded you dumbass

[MuslimApostate]

try doha Qatar numbnuts! And stop acting like the Muslim world likes russia anymore then the west cause it don't.

[dudemantwo]

Neave is wearing a khaffiya?

[dudemantwo]

Al Jeezera is evil

[dimka23]

Unless Muslims are ready and willing to proclaim that Jesus is Lord (Meaning that He is also God) and believe that God has raised Him from the dead (resurrection three days after crucifixion) then they are not believing in the God of Christianity.

Yahweh and Allah are not the same. While both may be gods, only one is the True and Living God, the Creator of all things and the one who has the authority to save and allow to enter into Heaven.

[stevennewnan]

I can see you've never been to an Arab speaking Church.The word we use is Allah. I'm Melkite.People who don't know what they're talking about should keep quiet. The only other word for God in Arabic is illah "the god".

[Ukieboi83]

Well said. Ignorance of language is no excuse to discriminate!

[dimka23]

According to Muhammad, the angel Gabriel gave him the Koran and the "new gospel" of Islam. Paul is saying here that if any man or angel from Heaven comes down with a different gospel other than the one given by the Apostles, they are accursed. Islam teaches an entire different message than that of Christianity. They deny that Jesus is the Way, the Truth, and the Life. They deny that He is the only name by which men must be saved. They deny that He is God and the He was resurrected from the dead.

[jayzstar]

@dimka23

Firstly the Quran Is No gossip ple .. secondly .. whoes Paul .. is he a messenger or a prophet ..

how can we accept that Jesus christ Is God ..When he himself never claimed that .

try and Find your original scriputures first .. Then we can debate on these things ..

[sevsen4]

@jayzstar +what you say is like to ask the insurance and the registration right after the accident from the dyeing driver and passengers. Xristos loves unconditionally everyone of His Lambs and you are being loved, too.

[dimka23]

Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, if any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.

Gal 1:10 For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased men, I should not be the servant of Christ.

Gal 1:11 But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.

Gal 1:12 For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.

[dimka23]

Galatians 1:6-12 states: Gal 1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel: Gal 1:7 Which is not another; but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. Gal 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

[dimka23]

To say that Jesus is the Christ means that He is the promised Messiah. The scriptures clearly teach that this Messiah is Himself God as seen by the previous scriptures. If you deny this, John is saying that you are also denying the Father and not just the Son. If you deny the Son, you do not have the Father. Muslims deny that Jesus is the Messiah. They deny that He is God, part of the Trinity.

[SadronAphaderuiondur]

Many coutries try (and several others already tried) to stop Christianity. In Russia's case, we, the Protestants, survived to Tsarism and Communism. Our heroic history is written with the blood of our martyrs. And we will survive to the present hardship. God help us!

[mzjwright]

We are but what we believe in! If We believe it, it Will Happen. If We Want it, We Will Have it, If We Dream it, We Can Achieve it! ★°°•.★°°•.★°°•★°°•.★°°•.★★°°•.­★°°•.★°°•★°°•.★°°•.

[mzjwright]

Thank God Almighty I am in control of my very own life and my thoughts and my feelings...because I strangely enough feel that I can help change the world..>>I strangely enough believe that we humans are inherently good people not evil! I believe that we can change the world but there are far too many negative critics in our way of obtaining this goal. I am a Canadian 3rd or 4th Generation and everyone is oppressed here except young white males. I'm a University Grad, I know what I'm sayin!

[Hamzazaie]

MUSLIMGHOST:

"LAKUM DEEANKUM WA LIYA DEEN" Leave this person alone. What they do is their business and if he wants to bash Islam its his business too. Don't forget that the most powerful verse of the Quran is followed by the verse "LA IKRAHA FE DEEN"

Forget this person, whoever he is. His belief is God's problem, not your or mine.

[forzaitalia2]

Hamzazaie, nice coment to Muslimghost, but please, im not Bashing Islam. we are debating and challenging eachother religion to understand it better. my Point exactly, my life and belife is Gods problem, but not human soldiers of God to take it upon them what i should belive. They are sinners. God speaks alone through his message.

[MuslimGhost]

Maybe you missed the verses in the Quran about, warning people of hell fire, inviting them to paradise, enjoining what is good and forbidding what is evil? I wonder where Islam would be if all the Muslims just ignored their obligations and did not bother to talk about Islam to other people?

[truelyfree]

traditional church vs. neoprotestants:

The orth. church needs competition to stay alive. Many neoprotestants need to accept, that orthodox christians are true christians.

True christians treat their brothers and sisters as such, regardless of their denomination. The coptic orthodox church is more alive than most evangelical churches and it has been facing islamic persecution for more than 1300 years. Neoprotestant and orthodox churches are closer to one another than to secular protestantism.

[FlatulenceFox]

Dear god, Sorry to disturb you, But I feel that I should be heard loud and clear. We all need a big reduction in amount of tears, And all the people that you made in your image, See them fighting in the street, cause they cant make opinions meet, About god, I cant believe in you. Did you make disease, and the diamond blue? Did you make mankind after we made you? And the devil too!

[FlatulenceFox]

Dear god,

Dont know if you noticed,

But your name is on a lot of quotes in this book.

Us crazy humans wrote it, you should take a look,

And all the people that you made in your image,

Still believing that junk is true.

Well I know it aint and so do you,

Dear god,

Lyrics by XTC

[manwiththecalicobag]

aog is a hate groupe , that i have experanced my self.

[manwiththecalicobag]

people want to rejoice that ok no problem,let the church start rejoicing and healing broken people , how ever the tempations of the spirit , people fall for,the question is it the desier for to be closes to god , or the desier to control power over the spirit and in so people ,i have herd the begging there god for more and more ,when in christian churchs its about giving , the greed of the false profit, should not stop any church letting it people sing and rejoice in evey way possiable .

[mzjwright]

I am Canadian...and I LOVE THE WORLD...and I LOVE RUSSIA TOO! I was Catholic, and now a Muslim...and listen ppl....we need to WAKE UP...and NOT LISTEN TO WHAT THEY PUMP OUT TO US VIA THE MEDIA....We need to look at those that oppress us..it is NOT THE PEOPLE,...not any RELIGIOUS GROUP...it is the SYSTEM! We create our future...each and every one of us! We are responsible and capable and able and we are writing history! PROMOTE PEACE, AND LOVE and EQUALITY! It cannot fail! It is within us!

[forzaitalia2]

MZJWRIGHT that was a touching coment but i dont see where, peace, love and equality is promoted in the relgion of Islam. how strange that you would convert (or revert as muslims like to call it) when its not a subject attributed to Islam. by the way...were not oppressed, especially if your canadian.

[JCMac777]

People who cannot live without religious faith are parasites. But I believe everyone should have the freedom to practice their faith, although the problem with this is, it's often open to abuse by those who are most passionate about their religion. Just look at some of the idiotic comments here.

[LittlePinky82]

Communism itself isn't anti-religion. It's just against church/state being so close together. We're very much for a strong seperation because it's better for both religion and government but especially government. We've seen time after time throughout history what happens to society when religion is too close to the government whether it's Israel and Judaism, Iran and Islam or the U.S. and Christianity. It's just too harmful for both and other religious faiths as well.

[Steadno]

There should be a complete separation between church and state there!

[herviews]

Steadno - There should be a complete separation between church and humans. let the gods do their own "dirty job" of smiting, condemning, and punishing. Any god that is so needy as to require worship and praise is not worthy of that worship or praise. Humans should spend their energy loving and caring for each other now and stop worrying about the hereafter.

[Steadno]

Even better!

[mengwise36]

You are an idiot, end of story.

[mengwise36]

Protestantism refers to the forms of Christian faith and practice that originated in the 16th century Protestant Reformation. Protestant doctrine, also known in continental European traditions as Evangelical doctrine, in opposition to that of Roman Catholicism. It typically holds that Scripture (rather than tradition or ecclesiastic interpretation of Scripture)[1] is the source of revealed truth.

Learn before you speak.

[xlioilx]

religion is a virus that needs to be aggressively burned out of the weak minds of frail and pathetic human race

[nickpafras]

that means you would have to kill 95% of the people on earth. because 95% of the people on earth believe in some sort of religion.

[xlioilx]

yep

[vancerz]

Its funny, religions say the same about you.

The problem is douch bags on both sides talking like they are the 100 percent truth so much so the elevate them selfs above others. like you just did xlioilx

What people need todo is live in peace and love, not force their views onto others when humans can do that, we all will benifit.

[MuslimGhost]

How typically christian of them. Islam will dominate the world over and the false religion of Christianity will fall when Jesus returns as a Muslim, and smashes the cross and the idolators who blasphemed against God.

[forzaitalia2]

muslim ghost, how typicaly muslim of you! dont belive in your muslim lies. why will jesus return at the end of days...to judge mankind? yes however only God can Judge mankind and not a man. so if Islam confirms Jesus will return, then Islam is confirming that Jesus is God and will return to us. Jesus ChristIANITY is not a Muslim. a Muslims is somone who is taught many negativities of Jews and Christians and to Jihad for Allah. Jesus doesnt belive in those things ever!

[MuslimGhost]

Listen here my friend. The bible you read is not the word of God, it is some of the original words of Jesus mixed with lies and fabrications. Islam means submission to God, the one and only God. So all of the prophets were Muslims (submitters to God). They had different laws revealed to them, but the message was the same: worship the one and only God, and associate no partners with Him. Jesus will return to fight the anti-Christ and the blasphemers who worship him along with God (or as God).

[forzaitalia2]

naaaa you dont know what you talk abuot, your pride and the lies that have been passed to you cloud you from the truth.

[MuslimGhost]

You dont know what YOU'RE talking about. "No one with a single particle of pride will enter paradise" that was taught by Muhammad. Ive read the Bible, have you ever read the Quran? How many Christians convert to Islam vs. how many Muslims convert to Christianity? If you wish to follow blindly without thinking for yourself, you will follow those who mislead you and themselves straight to the ultimate loss.

[forzaitalia2]

its true, so becarful you dont sin, because thats where Muslims make their biggest error. their Pride and desire of victory through competition. Christians are not blind but fulfilled. ive not read the quran but ive read enough of it and learn of its history. God doesnt just condem sinners, he teachs them through his example to repent and follow the truth of the Lord Jesus Christ example

[MuslimGhost]

Wrong. It is you who are full of pride, by making judgements and false accusations, claiming to know what lies in the hearts of other men while only God is the judge of that. God has taught men through HUMAN PROPHETS- and Jesus was a human prophet too. He does not send angels, or half god half man figures, he sends humans so other humans can see what is a model of behavior for them.. men who bleed, need food and water, suffer, and live just like they do. God uses men to fulfill His divine plan.

[forzaitalia2]

wrong it is YOU and your Prophet of non miracle who has made false accusations and over time have also been changed and augmented just like in the half truth and half false hadiths that were arranged by the hand of Men and are required in order to interpretate the Quran then Taking from the scripture enjil and blaspheming the rest in order to benefit themselves. God does not use men because men are sinners. only Jesus Christ was not a sinner because he is God

[ragnar336]

why is it that the most intelligent people dont believe in god mostly, and hicks and third world countries love to believe in god?

[xlioilx]

I think you answered your own question typically uneducated people are more weak minded and will believe anything thats why I need to make me a cult just look at ted haggard he was a meth smoking transvestite that had a huge million dollar church I could live like a king WOOT!

[ragnar336]

if you need help starting this chruch im with you man. people are gonna be stupid anyway, why not make some money off their ignorance and unwillingness to think rationally

[xlioilx]

amen I bet we could even name it

"the church of the stupid fucks" and have more then a full house of dumb asses LOL

[ragnar336]

make it the sacred church of the stupid fucks and you got yourself a deal.

im gonna make such a big collection plate

[MuslimGhost]

lolol.. you know not what you say. All men are sinners but God's grace and mercy is greater than their weakness. You believe in a blood thirsty God that cannot forgive if he doesnt spill the blood of the innocent. I believe in a God who is so merciful, He forgives whoever asks Him for forgiveness and tries to make ammends. Jesus Christ is not God because he was born, he had to eat, drink, use the bathroom, etc. and God is free of all of those needs.

[mengwise36]

Until such time you get a hold of the majority of China, India, US and Brazil, you will dominate nothing except BS.

[MuslimGhost]

Thats what people like you were saying 1400 years ago when Islam first spread, until the small army of Muslims crushed the Persian and Roman empires, and within a generation, Islam spread from one end of the world to the other. All it takes is for the Muslims today to become like the Muslims 1400 years ago- dedicated, overflowing with love for God, models of Islam and good character, full of faith and fear of God- and Islam will be victorious all over the world, and will destroy all falsehoods.

[rjbonacolta]

Rome had fallen before the rise of Islam, and the muslims were only able to take down the eastern empire by using vast armies.

[MuslimGhost]

That is nonsense, they were conquered because their people saw the truth and justice of Islam, and their phony leaders no longer had the support of their people. The persian leader sent a letter to the Muslims saying, "Why are you coming to fight us? We will pay you to leave us alone", and their reply was, "We are coming to free your people from the narrowness of this life to the vastness of the hereafter, and from worshipping you to worshipping their Creator"

[forzaitalia2]

MuslimsGhost your coment about Rome is noncence. Eastern Rome fell because greedy and hungry Crusaders betrayed the Roman empror. and about freeing the narrowness of people only GOD can do that and not an army of Jihadists. dont you get it, no one wants Islam unless they convert (or revert as you 'proudly' like to call it)

[MuslimGhost]

The army of jihadists you referred to are the soldiers of God. God protects through authority, through the armies of the righteous, who fight not for wealth or power, but for His sakes and in His cause. The pope is no different from any other tyrant- he keeps people like you in blind submission so you worship falsehoods and remain ignorant of your Lord. The masses of illiterates and ignorant people are oppressed by their leaders, Islam frees them to worship their Creator and Him alone.

[forzaitalia2]

Soldiers of God? GOD DOESNT NEED SODLIERS OF WAR, CONFLICT OR AUTHORITY TO IMPOSE HIS WORD ON ANYONE. GOD is the only authority GOD is the only word GOD is the only power and GOD does not put those attributse into the hands of NO human being to pass judgement amoungst themselves and anothers. the Islamic growth fought ONLY for power and submision. the Leaders of the so called Illiterates will be Judged by God and not you

[MuslimGhost]

God doesnt need soldiers? Thats like saying a city doesnt need doctors, police, or firemen. God works through the hands of men. He created human beings to be His servants here on earth. Since evil is always ready to fight, He has ordered the righteous to defend themselves from the assaults of evil. The Bible talks about Moses going to fight- and the Bible is full of scenes where it talks about killing women and children and babies. You are unbelievably ignorant.

[forzaitalia2]

no you are unbelievably ignorant for comparing the works of God to the requirements of a City lol. the Bible has been, done its part and is now a confirmation of the prophesiced coming of Jesus who gave a new scripture called the New Testament. how lame that you follow the rest of Muslims by resorting to lame attacks by casting up things from the OLD testament which has been replaced by the new word of God

[MuslimGhost]

And the New Testament was lost and has been replaced by the final revelation, the Quran, which is incorruptible and has been preserved until the last hour. You are foolish because you know very well God works through men. That is why every single prophet He sent was a man. He didnt send angels, or animals, or some other kind of creation.. He sent humans, for other humans to see and follow. Besides you are obviously a hypocrite since Christians had the most violent armies in history.

[forzaitalia2]

lol the quran is the most contradictable, jumple of verses which has be compiled by man, changed and interpreted and even the Saudies contuine you change the interpretation of the Quran because the QUran, means one thing or another and about a million other possiblilties because it is not perfect, clear or informative. Christian armies will be persecuted. however they are not hypocrites to call themselfs Soldiers of God

[MuslimGhost]

The Quran is contradictable? lolololol. Yes, I guess you're soo brilliant you found something that christians couldnt find for 1400 years. And its a good thing the Bible sets the standard for what the word of god should be like.. I mean its not like one second Jesus ALLEGEDLY says, "my father and I are one", then someone else says "my father is greater than I".. lolol. I feel sorry for you, I really do. I hope God will guide you but you seem to treat religion like sport instead of seeking truth.

[abdulbaqi88]

Jesus a.s is dead.Pls accept the reality!

[MuslimGhost]

Jesus is not dead, He is alive. It figures that someone who follows the false cult of Ahmadiyya would say such a thing. Give up your false religion of that vile liar you follow and revert back to real Islam (Quran and sunnah). The Prophet(saws) said every deviation from the Islam he left for us leads to the fire. Ahmadiyyas are not Muslims, they are kafirs because the Quran says Muhammad is the seal (LAST) of prophets.

[abdulbaqi88]

Look how can a man be alive even still today?

[MuslimGhost]

Stop reading the Ahmadiyya translation, they falsely and deliberately pervert the meaning and verses of the Quran. Pick up the Yusuf Ali translation or read it in Arabic.

Behold! Allah said: "O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee (of the falsehoods) of those who blaspheme (3:55 [verse truncated for space])

The word used means that He was raised, ALIVE, to Allah. Not killed, because then He would remain on earth. Im tired of arguing this same point with you

[abdulbaqi88]

We are nearer to him than even his jugular vein. (Qaf 50:16),

And We are nearer to him than you, but you see not - (al-Waqiah 56:85).

So where Allah took him??.

Jesus was getting close to Allah spiritually.

[abdulbaqi88]

Holy Quran declares: "And He is Allah, both in the heavens and in the earth." (6:4) "So withersoever you turn, there will be the face of Allah." (2:116) "And We are nearer to him than even his jugular vein." (50:17) Hence, Rafa'a Ilallah does not necessitate one's physical ascension to heaven, rather this Rafa'a--exaltation is achieved on this very earth.

[abdulbaqi88]

Koranic interpretation should be followed what Muhammad taught NOT of any political regime.

[nickpafras]

mohamed was nothing but an murderer and a pedophile who had a 9 year old wife. (aisha).

[forzaitalia2]

nickpafras, Mohammad had 8 wifes and in Islam your only allowed 4? but the Prophet was given sexual strength of 30 men. not only was moh fucking Aisha, he was also fucking the Maid Maria Quptia. Surah 66 At-tahrim bukhari volume 1 book 4 no 268

[MuslimGhost]

lol, typical christian. they dont have truth on their side so they resort to foul language, lies and slander. Soon will you be made to account for your deeds.

[forzaitalia2]

ghost, because that what Islam is becoming. what language are you talking about...what lias are you talking about? only God will make me accountable and i look forwarded to being Judged by God and not a Man. your threats mean nothing to me a

[MuslimGhost]

lol Im not threatening you because I wont be judging you. Rather im laughing at you because of what's waiting for you.

[forzaitalia2]

you should laugh because in Islam ill be Judged by a man, well ill just push that man over. i look forward to being with God

[MuslimGhost]

You'll be judged by a man? Lol you are showing your ignorance again. You will be judged by God.. and God will call as witness against you, your own soul, your eyes, your ears, your hands, your skin, and all of the blessings that He gave you, which you then used to worship someone He created (Jesus), showing the ultimate ingratitude.. and the penalty for someone who rejects faith and falsely ascribes partners to God is hell.

[forzaitalia2]

33:36 It is not fitting for a Believer, man or woman, when a matter has been decided by Allah and His Apostle to have any option about their decision: if any one disobeys Allah and His Apostle, he is indeed on a clearly wrong Path. When did his Apostle ever become equal to GOD to decide a mater or to be betrayed like god. FALSE!!

[MuslimGhost]

Allah says in the Quran, Muhammad does not command them based on his own desires, He commands them based on what God has revealed to him.

O ye who believe! Obey Allah, and obey the Messenger, and those charged with authority among you. If ye differ in anything among yourselves, refer it to Allah and His Messenger, if ye do believe in Allah and the Last Day: That is best, and most suitable for final determination. (4:59)

[orthodox4lyf]

wrong catholic church split from the ancient faith ur church re wrote the Nicene Creed wich was professed by the early Church Fathers Catholic Church is ful of heresy

[orthodox4lyf]

exactlyyyyyyy

[rblwoaclu]

all religions are a blasphemy unto The Father,but stop being violent what the hell is the matter with people.I forgot the devil rome pope made you do it.You know right from wrong.all one...... people when you gonna get it? stop hating.

[88think]

All religions are cons, obviously

[EmperorAtahualpa]

Solution? ATHEISM

[fisherkingcobra]

i urge russia to avoid protestantism at all cost it is the most evil thing in the world

[naliuj]

yah right behind religion in general right?

[gio31brasil]

religion=cancer of earth