Channel am940kyno - today on the show 'Steve Wayte Part 2' high speed rail was the topic of discussion: It's a good idea but the will end as a boondogle.
@pheonix35892 I imagine you know this but mistyped it, but it was Rick Scott, the current governor, not Charlie Crist, the former Governor, who turned down FLHSR. I'm pretty sure Crist was for HSR.
Electrification is not part of just high speed rail because Europe and Asia are also using electricity to power conventional passenger and freight trains. I think it would be better if there are wires hanging up every railroad tracks in the nation because it would save money. That means less foreign oil are being used to run the rails. So don't think about just HSR, please think about conventional rail too!
However little Obama knows/cares about economics, he knows politics--especially political rhetoric. "High-speed rail" is simply another set of lofty words to justify increasing government spending. So is "investment"; in education or any number of other things. Who cares what the realities are behind these nice words? Leave that to the economists, statisticians and historians. Obama only cares about winning votes of people who know little or nothing about economics, statistics, or history.
Well, I suppose there's no reason we can't create another economic nightmare other than, perhaps, we're not on an insane ego trip like this jackass. High-speed in America will be an economic disaster because our population is much more spread-out than in countries where such transportation makes some sense. It's certainly turned out to be a boondoggle in China. Nothing better illustrates the irresponsibility of this president than this rail push.
Build a high-speed rail network to connect all 50 states, which will create jobs, cut down on pollution, lower oil consumption, speed up and lower the cost of Transportations, stimulate US Economy, and the best off all, everyone get a piece of the action (Demarcates and Republicans; Rich and Poor).
@SteveNovak You could never educate me. I have checked into it very much. HSR would be a benefit to high fuel costs , etc. The train that goes under the English channel to mainland Europe is more efficient than the airlines. There was am Article in a Dallas paper that said that some airlines want HSR. To cover their short distance routes.
@SteveNovak Know about HSR and people. So, this country doesn't have cities about 200 to 500 miles apart? They are all over 500 miles. Amazing. Just using regular rail. Rail has 300 Passenger miles, airlines 50 passenger miles and cars 28. The only thing that does better than rail is shipping.
@SteveNovak So, other countries which are smaller than we are. Such as in Europe. Have benefited from HSR. but,not our country? What are you a trucker or work for the airlines?
Standard rail traffic. 300 Passenger miles, airlines 50 passenger miles, Cars 28 passenger miles. The only form of transportation that does better than standard rail traffic is shipping.
WELL BUD.......As the redneck said : THEN I GUESS YOU AND I BE WALKIN.......
And I guess after we use up all the oil, we will be back to wood fires, unless we can come up with something better.......Algae fuels anyone ?? Bio-plastics ??
WE may be up shit creek, but count cheap oil out.....It is HISTORY.....There is plenty of oil, BUT NO MORE of the easy, cheap one.....
@SteveNovak YEAH WHATEVER.......When the price for a barrel of oil reaches 200 dollars, and gasoline is six to ten dollars per gallon, we will ALL be begging for trains......Look me up here in Kendall, ( Miami ) when that day comes soon, will you ???? So you can give me a great BIG hug......And remember my silly e-mails for THOU SHALT SEE that day come sooner than later, and no amount of drilling will save our butts....THE DAYS OF CHEAP OIL ARE OVER FOREVER......Denial will do no good.
@SteveNovak WHAT A SHORT-SIGHTED COMMENT ! This is why I joined our youngest daughter into voting independent...The Democrats are all for the welfare losers, and the Republicans are all for the corporate criminals, as our criminal Florida governor Charlie Crist...For your information, in Florida it is the tourists who bring the BIG BUCKS, and those tourists will ride high speed rail...Here in Miami-Dade County, Brazilian tourists pumped over one BILLION dollars into our economy in 2010.
@SteveNovak EVERYONE USES THE ROADS ??? YOU ARE WRONG.......When our son graduated from the United States Marine Corps in 2008, gasoline was almost four dollars per gallon, and seven people from our family decided to take the Amtrak from Miami, Florida, to Savanna, Georgia, ( then a taxi to Parris Island, S.C. ) instead of renting a van and risking our lives.........But narrow-minded people as you, hate to see that other proud Americans think different......HSR is in YOUR future !
@SteveNovak YEAH, but no one ever refuses TAX money for more and more highways, while each new highway brings more traffic jams.......High speed rail will come to the U.S.A. sooner or later because the age of cheap oil IS OVER......High speed rail is the transportation of the future, and the future is HERE....
I dont care for Obama yet A highspeed train rail sounds like a good idea. Just start off in New England see how it goes. I think it would be very profitable. It would mean alot more travel which means better economy. Other countries do well with it think it would be good here. Although it would require investing a very large amount of money for new tracks, trains, etc.
HIgh speed rail would make more of us americans have to do things (go to work) and would not give as much money to Saudi Arabia to fight terrorists or to Dubai to build their buildings and buy their Ferraris. Your an idiot if you want to work when you can get a check from the government for not having a job. France has trains too and they love terrorists so they hate us Americans.
It's not about money, it's about transportation needs post-peak oil. Mag-lev doesn't need petroleum. Doesn't have gears to be greased. Follow closely folks, your looking at the beginning of a long state-led adaption to the needs of the near future.
Please God, let this happen. Option two: We can let the rest of the world -- including the "developing" world -- kick our ass on every front, but at least we won't be "socialists," right?
@Ham549 nothing more then massive subsidies for oil and car companies. You realise if we hadn't handed over control of our infrastructure to a bunch of politicians and bureaucrats in the first place, we probably already would have more railroads. But doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is our thing I guess.
Do like us:Build more nuke power plants to produce more cheap electricity.Mass cheap electricity for rising demands and ELECTRIC trains...Not bad..hum?Think about jobs and economie boost.Here,we continue to invest in HSR.Why leaving a concept who works good?
I think we need high speed rail, but it should not be run by the government. I know it sounds crazy, but every non-government owned railroad has prospered. Sadly though, AMTRAK, a government owned railroad since 1971, has not. If they get the high-speed rail to work then KUDOS to them.
@barronzm I think the govt should build the infrastructure like he said, with no outsourcing. Then bid out a contract to an american company to provide service.
i WISH AS A MEXICAN YOU CAN DO THE BUILDT AND EXTEND TO ALL THE CONTINENT, THE LINES ARE THERE, QUIRURGIC HOSPITAL STATION, ALIMENTARY CITIES, HYDROELECTRIC WAVE BRAKING, SUSTAINABLE CITIES. I HOPE YOU CAN. MÉXICO AND CANADA ARE THE EXELENT PARTNER FOR THIS LIKE NATURAL COMPLEMENTARY PIECES OF THE ENGINE OF THE ECONOMY OF THE REGION AND BEYOND.
Ha Ha I'VE REALLY GOTTEN TO YOU HAVEN'T I? PROOF POSITIVE THAT YOU ARE A TERRORIST LOVING LIBERAL. YOU'RE IDIOTIC AMERICAN PSEUDONYM ISN'T FOOLING ANYONE MUHAMMED. GO BLOW YOURSELF UP HA HA HA
DOWN WITH ARAB LOVING AMERICA HATERS SUPPORT HSR AND GIVE AMERICANS FREEDOM OF CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Blockygraphics TOMMY WAS A VISIONARY. HE DID ALL THE HARD WORK, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESMENTS, PUBLIC MEETINGS ETC. NOW WHEN ITS SHOVEL READY SMALL MINDED YOKELS LIKE YOU WHO DONT LIKE OBAMA WANT TO SCUPPER POSSIBLY THE LAST CHANCE WISCONSIN WILL GET TO BE A LEADING INNOVATOR.
@Blockygraphics "I WAS ON A TRAIN ONCE, IT WAS EVEN IN KOREA, WHAH, WHAH, I'M AN EXPERT NOW" YOU DON'T GET IT, DO YOU?
TRAINS ARE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE EFFICIENT THAN JET PLANES OR CARS PER PASSENGER REGARDLESS IF THEY ARE DIESEL ELECTRIC OR ELECTRIC
"MY FRIENDS CAN'T DO AN OIL CHANGE" - WHAT SORT OF ARGUMENT IS THAT? STAY ON TOPIC, YOU ARE CRITICAL OF HSR BECAUSE.....YOU'VE NO EXPERIENCE OF IT AND HAVE AN IQ OF A CARROT.
@Blockygraphics FOR YOUR INFORMATION HSR ORIGINATED WITH REPUBLICANS. ITS A REPUBLICAN IDEA EVERYWHERE INCLUDING WISCONSIN. TOMMY THOMPSON PIONEERED IT IN THIS STATE. DEMOCRATS STOLE IT.
FACE FACTS, ITS GOOD FOR AMERICA AND BAD FOR ARAB OIL STATES
ENOUGH OF YOUR FUCKING ARAB LOVING LIBERALISM YOU PUSSY
@Blockygraphics Ah, what goes around comes around. Muslim fanatic's all over the world love the idea of Americans buying oil off them. It makes THEM MORE POWERFUL AND US WEAKER.
We already have such a high speed rail system called TGV (train a grand vitesse), which connects Zurich with Paris in just 3 hours! Faster, cheaper and more comfortable than any flight.
The big advantage is, that it allows you to start your journey in the very center of the city, without having to drive to the airport., which is most of the time outside downtown.
So I really do hope, that Americans support Obama‘s plan to modernize the American infrastructure.
@Blockygraphics You are one ignorant SOB dude. Intercity highways are already at capacity. To increase capacity a vast program of interstate rehabilitation will cost hundreds of billions to move the same amount of people as HSR.
@Blockygraphics WHO SAID TRAINS WOULD REPLACE CARS? STOP BURBLING LIKE A BABY, NOBODY IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR PRECIOUS CAR.
HSR IS A MORE OIL EFFICIENT VIABLE ALTERNATIVE TO INTERCITY TRAVEL YOU BOZO. WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING OIL HUNGRY TECHNOLOGY WHEN THE US IMPORTS 87% OF ITS OIL FROM COUNTRIES THAT WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVERY ONE OF US DEAD?? BTW HSR IS ANYTHING BUT OLD TECH. I,D IMAGINE YOU'VE COME TO THAT CONCLUSION BECAUSE YOU'VE NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF IT. PURE IGNORANCE.
@Blockygraphics Your full of shit man. more highways and airports are the real sinkhole and they have been for the past 50 years. Thats partly why we are in this mess. Fuck off Muhammed, you'd be nothing without our oil dollars.
@Blockygraphics Your full of shit man. more highways and airports are the real sinkhole and they have been for the past 50 years. Thats partly why we are in this mess. Fuck off Muhammed, you'd be noting without our oil dollars.
@Blockygraphics ah, now I understand, you are just some poor man who doesn't like paying taxes. Well wise up buddy. Infrastructure costs! The choice is to invest in inefficient infrastructure like even bigger airports and more land grabbing highways or efficient intercity high speed rail. Stop being such a scabby bastard and pay your share you tight SOB of go suck arab cock somewhere else.
@Blockygraphics Ha ha..you again. Are you some sort of America Hater or what? Aviation and automobiles is just filling America hating arabs pockets with our dollars so then can attach this great nation again. Fuck the oil hungry aviation and auto industry. HSR will allow us to flip the bird to these American hating bastards. Fuck you Blockygraphics you arab loving scum bag.
HSR helps this great country of ours ween ourselves of foreign oil. FUCK those stinking arabs, Hugo Chaves and all the America haters in oil rich states. HSR ROCKS!!!
I really belive High speed Rails would work pretty well in the USA. The USA has a lot of free space in the countryside and big citys. i know a lot of young people have to use the Bus for long distances, and this is very slow and uncomfortable. And the aviation gasoline will be more expensive in the Future
Richmond, Raleigh, Charlotte, Columbia, Atlanta, Charleston, The Southeast US is growing rapidly, and our interstates will not be able to handle the strain. we need High speed rail in the South. For economic growth and easier transportation.
@vegaskidd its faster than greyhound bus, and slow moving train, and its cheaper and convenience than traveling on commercial plane, and let me ask you something What if you don't have your own car or your car wont be able to travel long distance? I'll tell you If I didn't have a Car right now, then I would definantly push for High speed train, because its I hate having to spend more time squish with the other stranger and riding buses is more stressful than driving, unless your a bus driver.
Gosh, why is everybody hating on high-speed rail? Look what it's done for Japan, France, Germany, Spain, Taiwan, South Korea, and China! And how can someone compare an Amtrak P42 pulling some Superliners on undedicated track to a JR Shinkansen N700 series trainset that runs on dedicated track (overpasses instead of crossings, smoother rail that is checked every week, and a min. curve radius of 5000 m), more aerodynamic, has motors in every truck, designed to run 180 mph regularily? How can u?!
@sideslide23 Yeah, I guess so. Most people enjoy the privacy of their own cars. But, it's costing them a lot more than they think. There's maintenance, petrol, and then they have to pay for the roads indirectly. Planned obsolescence by the car manufacturers will force people to constantly buy new cars every 10-20 years. You're right. Japan and Europe are more of welfare states. The US values wealth. And that's what happened to the US in the '50s. White flight, more cars, less bus use.
@sideslide23 If HSR rail can attract relatively wealthy people, maybe through the use of a first class only car with separated cabins per trainset, then HSR will be better off. People want to be rich. But, not everyone can be. So, a lot of people act rich. If rich people ride the rails as a new, sleek, efficient, and fast way of transport and are a model to the average person, then more and more people will ride it. Things that the rich have today, the middle class will have in 30 years.
@th3gtr The Chinese rail system has been touted by American rail enthusiasts, including President Obama, as the great wave of the future. In fact, it seems to be fulfilling most of the dire prophecies of HSR opponents in the U.S. Ridership on many of the lines is below projections. Cash-flow problems have pushed the price of financing significantly higher, and may well be unsustainable. And the system is deeply unpopular with working- and middle-class Chinese, who can’t afford the pricey ticket.
@VOTETHEDUMMYOUT America is a far wealthier country than China in terms of average income. HSR would be a great success in the U.S.; in fact, it already is in the Northeast. Just look at the Acela. Wildly popular.
@VOTETHEDUMMYOUT Dude, did you not even bother reading my comment before you replied? Acela is part of Amtrak, you know, and the Acela and Northeast regional lines alone actually bring in more than half of their money. Just imagine how well Amtrak could be doing if it were given the means to invest and innovate in more high speed rail rather than obstructionist republicans trying to starve it.
Or could you not find another National Review article to cut and paste your response from? Busted.
@th3gtr THAT IS EASY TO ANSWER......Because here in the United States we have all been brainwashed into LOVE AFFAIRS with our cars......And now you have the TEA PART RADICALS who equate high speed rail with being a socialist......That shows you the NUT JOBS that are part of the Tea Party.....
But do not despair......As the years pass we will see what a bad mistake it was to reject high speed rail, and it will come to the good old U.S.A........You will see.......
Yeah..... I think we already tried this with AMTRAK...which STILL exists today, somewhat. Problem is, people will not give up their cars to ride trains. History will repeat itself here. Job creation is nice though.
As an American, I am all for tax cut. I get more money in my pocket, I can buy more Chinese-made-goods, so China can have more money building their high speed rail networks.
United airline is merging with Continental. If more airlines are going to merge, what do we think will happen to airline ticket price? go down!? Puhaha...yeah right. Unless United States open its domestic airline market to foreign operators. We American pretty much screw ourselves for the last 40~50 years by overly relying on petroleum-based vehicles.
other countrys had these trains for such a long time.. we are behind the world.. we are becomine a second world country... its time to upgrade.. i wanted to travel to go see my gf now ex a while ago. i look at the ways to travel... plane... had to be 18.. im 17 so that didnt work... trains.. took 36 hour travel way to long... buses 22 hour and cars 20 hour and i cant even drive there so car would work. i would love to see a train system that takes 6 or 8 hours to travel instead of 36...
@vegaskidd nobody is talking about cross-country high speed rail. we're talking about smaller corridors like houston-dallas or (soon to be under construction) los angeles-las vegas
@mfastx but even then, markets change and places change, this is why buses are most effective because they can change routes. There used to be the brooklyn dodgers because it once was a thriving city , you would think they would put a train there, not it would look stupid.Point made is trains aren't flexible , buses are, once you build for train thats it.
@vegaskidd i don't get that argument. are you saying that all of the sudden nobody will be traveling between los angeles and las vegas? a train between two major cities won't need to be "flexible." there will always be demand between two major cities.
@mfastx You are missing the point, its NOT the demand it is the WAY you deliver the demand. If they build it vegas to LA they stop future development of anything that might cross paths and the trains aren't even that fast compared to driving or taking a bus. With this thought then they should have ONE BIG PLANE thats goes from vegas to LA, fuck it your talking about speed right? and a PLANE doesn't harm the earth, I though you left wingers cared about the environment.
@vegaskidd What is "anything that might cross paths?" YES, HSR is MUCH faster than taking a bus or driving (the current desertxpress is not ideal, it only goes to victorville, unless it can connect with CHSR to get to downtown LA.) once downtown, you can get on local tranist. the total trip time is less than flying as well, you don't have to get to the station over an hour early, you don't check bags, no security. and i dont give a shit about "harming the earth" HSR is more convienent
@MrEiriku Hi speed rails built by the government is not the solution into actually solving the problem, why does the government have to invest in it? Why do you guys like taking everyones money and spending it they way that you want to? I have no issue with you guys voluntarily getting together and building one for yourself, theres no one stopping you, you dont solve problems beginning the sentence "we need the government to do a b and c then everything will be better"
I am fine with U.S. federal government doing nothing. United States does not need military forces, because we all can buy guns and grenades, and we Americans know how to defend ourselves. We also don't need highways, we can buy SUV's and they run very well on rough terrains.
@pawpawnorth Thats what I meant dumbass, it is the basically same size. Learn how to read!And studying economics will tell you that markets shift, so if people really want trains then a company will invest, if they lose who cares, if the government loses, we all lose. You like paying for the bank bailouts, farm subsidies, you don't think that if this goes through that there won't be corporate subsides? That somehow the obama is not like any other president and doesn't rely on lobbying?
I agree we need to cut spending, raise taxes so we can pay off debt. What I do not understand is, when Bush 43rd was fighting the Iraq War, where were all the Tea Partiers that screams "stop the government spending"?
While I was in Iraq and stopped by one of the "big" bases I wondered how pissed off people back home would be to know that I actually had a choice between getting Pizza Hut or Burger King or just get free Steak and Lobster tail at some Haliburton cafeteria (LSA Anaconda 2004).
NTSB just said commuter airlines need safety overhaul. Colgan Air's aircraft lost speed, stalled and crashed. We just keep jamming more aircrafts into the air, and jamming more inexperience pilots into them. God bless America.
If you want to see a real high speed system that is way better then this then check out our videos on the high speed tunnel system. watch?v=3alBpbtAMys
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Is anyone actually falling for this? I can be anywhere in this country in two days, something trains will never provide high speed or not. One more big governement program designed to steal money. Don't fall for this, we won't use it , it is ineffective, our highways are excellent, don't believe him, airports and highways are less expensive that this outdated system. What makes him think security would be any less needed on the train than an airport. Pay attention They are trying to control us.
People need to differential the need for intra city mass transit and inter city transit. High speed is good only for inter city that is at least 300 miles far apart. The High Speed rail station must connect to that city mass transit system whether is Airport, bus, subway or local rail central station, and car rental companies, and long term carpark. And the land that lay the track compensation or purchase is not going to be easy. As you can see, the additional investments is Huge!
The U.S wants to build a high speed train from Tampa to Orlando???? ahahahahahahahahaha. What a BIG accomplishment. How about a high speed train from New york to L.A? It seems as if, compared to other developed countries, the U.S is a little underdeveloped...lol
Also keep in mind that statistics have recently come out saying that our nation's automobile fleet has peaked - meaning the number of existing cars on the road shrank last year for the first time since the end of WWII, and is expected to remain in check for the next decade. Why? Americans, by and large young people, are migrating back into urban centers where cars are often less convenient then mass transportation. The way we travel domestically is about to change radically.
As an American who has been fortunate to see other parts of the world experience their broad options for FAST and relatively inexpensive travel by mass transit, I have to say it's about time we invest in something that doesn't involve pavement or airplanes. I live in Brooklyn and I have family in DC and Virgina. I hate driving that far + it's a hassle to fly out of JFK + train travel is a lot easier than to go through the trouble of getting through airport security. Anyone relate to this?
word... i had to go see my gf (now ex gf because of distance) driveing there was 21 hours and im 17 so i couldnt drive. flying there was 6 to 12 hours but you need to be 18 and once again i coundnt do that and takeing a train would be 36 hours... way 2 fucking long.. i would love to just take a train thats just as fast as a plane..we are soo behind in the world its not even funny
I'm sick of you guys saying it's unrealistic. I live in Toronto and sometimes my family goes to Niagara Falls. It gets extremely boring after a while. Buffalo is crusty as hell and is only fun for a little while. It would be more convenient to at least hop on the light rail to take us down to MANHATTAN FOR A CHANGE!
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Far from protecting the environment, most rail transit lines use more energy per passenger mile, and many generate more greenhouse gases, than the average passenger automobile. These projects cannot be paid for out of user fees and would cost taxpayers to subsidize at an average of $1000 per year per person. Interstates paid for themselves out of gas taxes, and most Americans use them every day. Rail requires huge tax subsidies and would regularly serve only a small elite
I do not have problem of not building high speed rail, as long as critics can guarantee USA's population will not continue to grow; especially in the high density areas. Furthermore, we want guarantees that we will no longer build more "10 lane highways". In addition, we do not build more runways for airlines. Isn't the highway trust fund going red ink when people drove more efficiently during the $150/barrel oil days?
The pro-rail Center for Clean Air Policy predicts that, if the FRA's system is completely built, it will carry Americans 20.6 billion passenger miles a year in 2025. That sounds like a lot, but, given predicted population growth, it is just 58 miles per person. Who will ride these trains? Why hasn't Amtrac made a profit in over 40 years?
I am okay if it is not build, but can anyone guarantee me that oil price will not rise to 150 USD/barrel again? If it will rise to that level, can anyone guarantee me that I will not pay Saudi Arabia a dime for the oil they have, so they won't churn out more terrorists who hate us?
I can see you do not understand the studies and the conclusions that high speed rail will not reduce congesstion, green house gases, carbon or be cost efficient. They will cost everyone $1000 a year in new taxes for someone else to ride only 58 miles a year. If they are so great then the private market will put them in. Taxpayers cannot afford billions more in spending that results in subsities and overruns abuse and fraud of another government run system.
If highway is so great, why Eisenhower wants US government to build it? what about airports? I can also make the argument about defense. Those people in North Dakota has less risk of being attacked by terrorists, why do they need to pay tax to fund a federal-government-backed military?
dude..we cant live in the past any more..ohh sure spending spending spending lets all be jewish and not spend anything or upgrade lets all live in the 1990s ITS ABOUT FUCKING TIME WE DID SOMTHING TO MAKE TRAVEL FASTER... i wanted to go see my gf she lives 1500 miles away... im 17 i have to be 18 to fly... i cant drive.. and buses are 22 hour trips and trains are 36 HOURS THATS BULLSHIT!! we really need to stop being a second world country and upgrade this dam country
@nighthawkm1992 That's your problem, be happy there is a solution that you CAN visit your gf, nobody made you have a gf so fuckin far away. You can't make me work and pay for YOUR shit. Hey I want to go to fucking fiji maybe YOU should pay for that shit. AND NEWS FLASH i f your 17 you can FLY on a plane, I flew when I was 14 didn't need to meet anyone on the other side, you only need that shit if your are going to another country and if you are an train aint going to help you!
@nighthawkm1992 YOU NEED THAT NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO! If you have issue with your guardian not signing shit thats YOUR problem but you CAN go on a plane by yourself. You have to be 18 to buy cigarettes too, why dont you bitch about that. THATS AN AGE ISSUE , not a travelling issue. Are you fucking serious!
@vegaskidd no shit surelock i can get on the plane by my self i just cant buy the ticket by myself...i already knew that anyways im glad there building this rail system its not fun being a second world country. with outdated transportantion systems.
Why does Obama want to be like Europe? Since Japan introduced high-speed bullet trains, passenger rail has lost more than half its market share to the automobile. Since Italy, France, and other European countries opened their high-speed rail lines, rail's market share in Europe has dwindled from 8.2 to 5.8 percent of travel. If high-speed rail doesn't work in Japan and Europe, how can it work in the United States? The cost would far out weight the benefits.
I am proud that USA is different than Europe. I do not mind Uncle Sam stop taxing Americans and stop maintaining highways and bridges. Everyone should get a tax cut, so we all can drive large all-wheel amphibious SUV, go off-roading on gravel roads/boat across rivers from New York to Boston.
i like trains. country needs rail. rail is awesome. i hope plan succeeds. no need for crowded highways and expensive gas, along with crazy airports/planes
I noticed the Chinese HSR imported technology from German(Siemens), Japan and Canada(Bombadier), but not from the French! Ha, Ha, because France once sold Mirage fighter aircrafts to Taiwan. I guess this is Chinese's revenge against the French.
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I get it...O Bomb a= you the bomb=you the shit=shit means dope....Le HOOD=crook, BUY den= go ahead promote the transportation program of these guys. This is almost as good as Preparation H plan from Austin Powers. I know that the mafia that took over the usa must use their own dope. Because they are DOPES, morons!
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Thanks but I will walk...and if you take a high speed rail (cocaine) you will probably have so much energy you could run...unless they have too many budget cuts. I just love the hidden parallel. What kind of black president would promote drugs?Not all black americans are this dumb nor are they into drugs, how dare he represent them this way! And as far as the Secretary Le HOOD and Buy den we can have a true party for America. Hypnotized america.
I am sure the terrorists will love to bomb a high speed rail. So no shoe screening or underwear screening is not possible. However, HSR can at least board high volume of passengers in shorter amount of time by using "multiple" large doors. Still beats taking the airplane on medium distance travel.
The Chinese is kicking American's butt again on HSR. Reminded me how the Russian scared the cr&p out of the American during early stages of space race.
China and Russia are totally different animals. China has a much richer history, culture heritage, nation recognition, belief in unification, growth, adding up improving national defense system, creativity, and a robust economy.
China now has a minimun wage law. It is 39 cents an hour low end to 68 cents per hour. 45 hour work weeks average. Now that they are allowed education there is a shortage of young workers who won't work for low wages and are going to college. As they get educated and demand higher wages and better work enviroments companies will be hit in lower profits there by having to charge higher prices. Some companies have already moved out of China to other lower wage 3rd world countries.
God bless China. Those college graduates will have money to buy cars, and some of them will be American cars. More oil will be consumed. Those idiot Chinese has the stupidity to build at least 8 HSR lines (4 north south + 4 east west) across the country.
No. I'm just saying, a high speed train from Tampa to Orlando is not a big accomplishment. When it comes to innovation and accomplishments U.S ranks last among the developed countries. Even "our" technology comes from foreign countries, or because of foreigners in our country. A high speed train from New York to California would be a big accomplishment not fucking tampa to orlando , thats only 86 miles!! LOL
Actually, building New York to L.A. HSR will be a smaller accomplishment compare to the Tampa-Orlando line. Because flying from New York to L.A. makes more sense.
Panama canal, hoover dam, these projects happened during recessions! This isn't a pyramid, or even a tourist trap idea... this is real progress with real benefits! Let's do it already!
sorry i make a big error : paris - lyon is not 100 miles but 350 miles sorry (like the record of speed of the TGV Lyons Paris = about 570 km)
because 100 euro for 100 miles this would be extremely expensive ! plz excuse me ... 100 euro for 350 miles for go and return
in dollars normally cost are 20-30 cents by miles ... desolate yesterday I calculated on the basis of 100 miles Paris - Lyons, while it is 350 miles !
for help you to make an idea of ticket price HST, in france, TGV a return ticket Paris - Lyon near 100 miles travel is about 100 euro without any reduction (in France according to the timetable, the age, the period in year prices differ to take the TGV as everything trains) max price
but with reduction if they choose one timetable digs, has a period of weak tourist traffic they can hope to pay 70 euro
i think in USA when HST will be ready you will pay 1.5-2 $ in simple itinerary by miles, 1-1.5 $ for return tickets (go and return)
I would recommend you to envisage of big train a big capacity as for exemple in France the double TGVS (2 TGVS coupled together for a capacity maximum of passengers)
because it will have one success some ! people are going to throw themselves, any ceux over who detest the plane ect
Obama needs to Stop wasting Billions on war in Afghanastin, he sent 30,000 troops in Afghanastin, and they wont pull out untill 2011 so the HSR may been corrupted by the War in Afghanastin.
I am quite proud to be a rail enthusiast from the country that invented the railways. The USA and Canada are far behind the rest of the world in rail standards. However, the French TGV networks from what I've seen just have two straight tracks that have speed limits of over 180mph. Perhaps, for the USA and Canada, four tracks would be more ideal? Keeping the fast intercity services on the inside lines, and freight and commuter services on the outside would reduce congestion on the new routes.
Me too. I believe that this new vision, no, not a vision, an investment that will create millions of new jobs, lessen pollution, and be the cause of a decrease in economic crisis. I'm all for it Mr. B.O. America needs to catch up to Japan, China, and other countries. Just one thing...what about MEXICO?!?!?!
I wish they would've built this
nashville1510 1 week ago
Obama 2012
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ZombieCaretaker 2 months ago in playlist High Speed Rail
our governor in florida charlie crist turn down floridas high speed project that mother fucker
pheonix35892 3 months ago
@pheonix35892 I imagine you know this but mistyped it, but it was Rick Scott, the current governor, not Charlie Crist, the former Governor, who turned down FLHSR. I'm pretty sure Crist was for HSR.
London755 1 month ago
@SteveNovak disney is not nowhere retard
MrEiriku 3 months ago
good job obama
claton95 3 months ago
Electrification is not part of just high speed rail because Europe and Asia are also using electricity to power conventional passenger and freight trains. I think it would be better if there are wires hanging up every railroad tracks in the nation because it would save money. That means less foreign oil are being used to run the rails. So don't think about just HSR, please think about conventional rail too!
Trainmaster189 4 months ago
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Trainmaster189 4 months ago
However little Obama knows/cares about economics, he knows politics--especially political rhetoric. "High-speed rail" is simply another set of lofty words to justify increasing government spending. So is "investment"; in education or any number of other things. Who cares what the realities are behind these nice words? Leave that to the economists, statisticians and historians. Obama only cares about winning votes of people who know little or nothing about economics, statistics, or history.
happystance9able 4 months ago
>>There's no reason why we can't do this<<
Well, I suppose there's no reason we can't create another economic nightmare other than, perhaps, we're not on an insane ego trip like this jackass. High-speed in America will be an economic disaster because our population is much more spread-out than in countries where such transportation makes some sense. It's certainly turned out to be a boondoggle in China. Nothing better illustrates the irresponsibility of this president than this rail push.
happystance9able 4 months ago
Build a high-speed rail network to connect all 50 states, which will create jobs, cut down on pollution, lower oil consumption, speed up and lower the cost of Transportations, stimulate US Economy, and the best off all, everyone get a piece of the action (Demarcates and Republicans; Rich and Poor).
undervalued668 4 months ago
If anyone know when this high speed rail plan's construction will be finished please tell me.
claton95 5 months ago
@SteveNovak You could never educate me. I have checked into it very much. HSR would be a benefit to high fuel costs , etc. The train that goes under the English channel to mainland Europe is more efficient than the airlines. There was am Article in a Dallas paper that said that some airlines want HSR. To cover their short distance routes.
jrwel14 6 months ago
@SteveNovak Know about HSR and people. So, this country doesn't have cities about 200 to 500 miles apart? They are all over 500 miles. Amazing. Just using regular rail. Rail has 300 Passenger miles, airlines 50 passenger miles and cars 28. The only thing that does better than rail is shipping.
jrwel14 6 months ago
@SteveNovak So, other countries which are smaller than we are. Such as in Europe. Have benefited from HSR. but,not our country? What are you a trucker or work for the airlines?
jrwel14 6 months ago
Standard rail traffic. 300 Passenger miles, airlines 50 passenger miles, Cars 28 passenger miles. The only form of transportation that does better than standard rail traffic is shipping.
jrwel14 6 months ago
@SteveNovak There's always someone who comments on what they don't know. THAT'S YOU!
jrwel14 6 months ago
The Ultimate solution is SMT_Rail of Silicon Valley
low cost greenest smart mass Transit system on the planet. and will creates US jobs
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smtlive 6 months ago
I wouldn't mind having a high speed rail system
epikpolishkid 7 months ago
WELL BUD.......As the redneck said : THEN I GUESS YOU AND I BE WALKIN.......
And I guess after we use up all the oil, we will be back to wood fires, unless we can come up with something better.......Algae fuels anyone ?? Bio-plastics ??
WE may be up shit creek, but count cheap oil out.....It is HISTORY.....There is plenty of oil, BUT NO MORE of the easy, cheap one.....
sierracuban 7 months ago
@SteveNovak YEAH WHATEVER.......When the price for a barrel of oil reaches 200 dollars, and gasoline is six to ten dollars per gallon, we will ALL be begging for trains......Look me up here in Kendall, ( Miami ) when that day comes soon, will you ???? So you can give me a great BIG hug......And remember my silly e-mails for THOU SHALT SEE that day come sooner than later, and no amount of drilling will save our butts....THE DAYS OF CHEAP OIL ARE OVER FOREVER......Denial will do no good.
sierracuban 7 months ago
@SteveNovak WHAT A SHORT-SIGHTED COMMENT ! This is why I joined our youngest daughter into voting independent...The Democrats are all for the welfare losers, and the Republicans are all for the corporate criminals, as our criminal Florida governor Charlie Crist...For your information, in Florida it is the tourists who bring the BIG BUCKS, and those tourists will ride high speed rail...Here in Miami-Dade County, Brazilian tourists pumped over one BILLION dollars into our economy in 2010.
sierracuban 7 months ago
@SteveNovak EVERYONE USES THE ROADS ??? YOU ARE WRONG.......When our son graduated from the United States Marine Corps in 2008, gasoline was almost four dollars per gallon, and seven people from our family decided to take the Amtrak from Miami, Florida, to Savanna, Georgia, ( then a taxi to Parris Island, S.C. ) instead of renting a van and risking our lives.........But narrow-minded people as you, hate to see that other proud Americans think different......HSR is in YOUR future !
sierracuban 7 months ago
@SteveNovak YEAH, but no one ever refuses TAX money for more and more highways, while each new highway brings more traffic jams.......High speed rail will come to the U.S.A. sooner or later because the age of cheap oil IS OVER......High speed rail is the transportation of the future, and the future is HERE....
sierracuban 7 months ago
But all that obama does is talk.
Totally not his fault.
Many other presidents wouldnt do better.
US presidency goes along with alot of corruption,
Dont always think that our government stall is only caused by the person doing the speeches.
THere's more to it.
But its nothing in detail that society knows about.
Armigo91 8 months ago
I dont care for Obama yet A highspeed train rail sounds like a good idea. Just start off in New England see how it goes. I think it would be very profitable. It would mean alot more travel which means better economy. Other countries do well with it think it would be good here. Although it would require investing a very large amount of money for new tracks, trains, etc.
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i want high speed rail.
wakniss 8 months ago
US would save a lot money if US just let China to build high-speed train in US rather than doing the R&D and build it by ourselves.
wikct2 9 months ago
HIgh speed rail would make more of us americans have to do things (go to work) and would not give as much money to Saudi Arabia to fight terrorists or to Dubai to build their buildings and buy their Ferraris. Your an idiot if you want to work when you can get a check from the government for not having a job. France has trains too and they love terrorists so they hate us Americans.
racrdave 9 months ago
It's not about money, it's about transportation needs post-peak oil. Mag-lev doesn't need petroleum. Doesn't have gears to be greased. Follow closely folks, your looking at the beginning of a long state-led adaption to the needs of the near future.
ActraiserIII 10 months ago 2
Please God, let this happen. Option two: We can let the rest of the world -- including the "developing" world -- kick our ass on every front, but at least we won't be "socialists," right?
wusundowma 11 months ago
@wusundowma how about we let the rest of the world waste their money on projects that produce less then they cost and we laugh at them.
Houshalter 11 months ago
@Houshalter Like highways?
Ham549 10 months ago
@Ham549 nothing more then massive subsidies for oil and car companies. You realise if we hadn't handed over control of our infrastructure to a bunch of politicians and bureaucrats in the first place, we probably already would have more railroads. But doing the same thing over and over expecting different results is our thing I guess.
Houshalter 10 months ago
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75tm400 11 months ago
My car can go faster than your train.
iDIMi 11 months ago
@iDIMi No it can't.
Ham549 10 months ago
in 2020 in Spain, high speed trains, scroll through all the Spanish cities
1elgalle1 1 year ago
Do like us:Build more nuke power plants to produce more cheap electricity.Mass cheap electricity for rising demands and ELECTRIC trains...Not bad..hum?Think about jobs and economie boost.Here,we continue to invest in HSR.Why leaving a concept who works good?
MrNathari 1 year ago
This investment is too small. WAY too small. And why in the world have we not heard talk about high speed rail since 2009?
hoibeard 1 year ago
I think we need high speed rail, but it should not be run by the government. I know it sounds crazy, but every non-government owned railroad has prospered. Sadly though, AMTRAK, a government owned railroad since 1971, has not. If they get the high-speed rail to work then KUDOS to them.
barronzm 1 year ago
@barronzm I think the govt should build the infrastructure like he said, with no outsourcing. Then bid out a contract to an american company to provide service.
joshe808 1 year ago
i WISH AS A MEXICAN YOU CAN DO THE BUILDT AND EXTEND TO ALL THE CONTINENT, THE LINES ARE THERE, QUIRURGIC HOSPITAL STATION, ALIMENTARY CITIES, HYDROELECTRIC WAVE BRAKING, SUSTAINABLE CITIES. I HOPE YOU CAN. MÉXICO AND CANADA ARE THE EXELENT PARTNER FOR THIS LIKE NATURAL COMPLEMENTARY PIECES OF THE ENGINE OF THE ECONOMY OF THE REGION AND BEYOND.
lapurabanda 1 year ago
I think the expansion of high speed rail service in the entire U.S is the most benefitual that can be done..Great speech
ArkansasGillum 1 year ago
I would love to take the train from Chicago to St Louis and get there to see my family in 2 hours.
Xing500 1 year ago 2
@Xing500 Popular Science just did an article about a high speed train that could travel from LA to NYC in 41 minutes.
claton95 6 months ago
Does anyone know if the government would benefit from a speed rail, and how much?
I don't think it would... otherwise this fantasy would have been a reality decades ago
jayc2586 1 year ago
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Ha Ha I'VE REALLY GOTTEN TO YOU HAVEN'T I? PROOF POSITIVE THAT YOU ARE A TERRORIST LOVING LIBERAL. YOU'RE IDIOTIC AMERICAN PSEUDONYM ISN'T FOOLING ANYONE MUHAMMED. GO BLOW YOURSELF UP HA HA HA
DOWN WITH ARAB LOVING AMERICA HATERS SUPPORT HSR AND GIVE AMERICANS FREEDOM OF CHOICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
evantis121 1 year ago
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@Blockygraphics I WANT TO HEAR MORE ABOUT YOUR PIE IN THE SKY CRACKPOT MAGLEV PROPOSAL. COMMON' LETS BE HAVING IT...ELABORATE PLEASE.
evantis121 1 year ago
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@Blockygraphics TOMMY WAS A VISIONARY. HE DID ALL THE HARD WORK, ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESMENTS, PUBLIC MEETINGS ETC. NOW WHEN ITS SHOVEL READY SMALL MINDED YOKELS LIKE YOU WHO DONT LIKE OBAMA WANT TO SCUPPER POSSIBLY THE LAST CHANCE WISCONSIN WILL GET TO BE A LEADING INNOVATOR.
evantis121 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics "I WAS ON A TRAIN ONCE, IT WAS EVEN IN KOREA, WHAH, WHAH, I'M AN EXPERT NOW" YOU DON'T GET IT, DO YOU?
TRAINS ARE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE EFFICIENT THAN JET PLANES OR CARS PER PASSENGER REGARDLESS IF THEY ARE DIESEL ELECTRIC OR ELECTRIC
"MY FRIENDS CAN'T DO AN OIL CHANGE" - WHAT SORT OF ARGUMENT IS THAT? STAY ON TOPIC, YOU ARE CRITICAL OF HSR BECAUSE.....YOU'VE NO EXPERIENCE OF IT AND HAVE AN IQ OF A CARROT.
evantis121 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics FOR YOUR INFORMATION HSR ORIGINATED WITH REPUBLICANS. ITS A REPUBLICAN IDEA EVERYWHERE INCLUDING WISCONSIN. TOMMY THOMPSON PIONEERED IT IN THIS STATE. DEMOCRATS STOLE IT.
FACE FACTS, ITS GOOD FOR AMERICA AND BAD FOR ARAB OIL STATES
ENOUGH OF YOUR FUCKING ARAB LOVING LIBERALISM YOU PUSSY
evantis121 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics "OOH, WHAT ABOUT THE POOR PEOPLE"
FUCKING LIBERAL
HIGH SPEED RAIL EQUALS NO MORE OIL REVENUE FOR TERRORISTS
evantis121 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics its ALL about oil.
What the fuck do you know about HSR anyway. You've never experienced HSR. How the fuck can you be critical?
Ignorant terrorist loving liberal
evantis121 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics Ha! maglev??? What the fuck are you talking about?
who's the looney?
Fucking liberal
evantis121 1 year ago
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@Blockygraphics Ah, what goes around comes around. Muslim fanatic's all over the world love the idea of Americans buying oil off them. It makes THEM MORE POWERFUL AND US WEAKER.
GOD Blockygraphics YOU ARE SUCH A LIBERAL.
GO AND BE A PUSSY SOMEWHERE ELSE.
SUPPORT HSR AND FIGHT THE REAL WAR ON TERROR!!!
evantis121 1 year ago
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evantis121 1 year ago
We already have such a high speed rail system called TGV (train a grand vitesse), which connects Zurich with Paris in just 3 hours! Faster, cheaper and more comfortable than any flight.
The big advantage is, that it allows you to start your journey in the very center of the city, without having to drive to the airport., which is most of the time outside downtown.
So I really do hope, that Americans support Obama‘s plan to modernize the American infrastructure.
tomibic 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics You are one ignorant SOB dude. Intercity highways are already at capacity. To increase capacity a vast program of interstate rehabilitation will cost hundreds of billions to move the same amount of people as HSR.
GO CRAWL BACK UNDER THAT ROCK YOU BOTTOM FEEDER.
evantis121 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics WHO SAID TRAINS WOULD REPLACE CARS? STOP BURBLING LIKE A BABY, NOBODY IS GOING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR PRECIOUS CAR.
HSR IS A MORE OIL EFFICIENT VIABLE ALTERNATIVE TO INTERCITY TRAVEL YOU BOZO. WHY ARE YOU DEFENDING OIL HUNGRY TECHNOLOGY WHEN THE US IMPORTS 87% OF ITS OIL FROM COUNTRIES THAT WOULD LOVE TO SEE EVERY ONE OF US DEAD?? BTW HSR IS ANYTHING BUT OLD TECH. I,D IMAGINE YOU'VE COME TO THAT CONCLUSION BECAUSE YOU'VE NO PERSONAL EXPERIENCE OF IT. PURE IGNORANCE.
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@Blockygraphics Your full of shit man. more highways and airports are the real sinkhole and they have been for the past 50 years. Thats partly why we are in this mess. Fuck off Muhammed, you'd be nothing without our oil dollars.
evantis121 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics Your full of shit man. more highways and airports are the real sinkhole and they have been for the past 50 years. Thats partly why we are in this mess. Fuck off Muhammed, you'd be noting without our oil dollars.
evantis121 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics ah, now I understand, you are just some poor man who doesn't like paying taxes. Well wise up buddy. Infrastructure costs! The choice is to invest in inefficient infrastructure like even bigger airports and more land grabbing highways or efficient intercity high speed rail. Stop being such a scabby bastard and pay your share you tight SOB of go suck arab cock somewhere else.
evantis121 1 year ago
@Blockygraphics Ha ha..you again. Are you some sort of America Hater or what? Aviation and automobiles is just filling America hating arabs pockets with our dollars so then can attach this great nation again. Fuck the oil hungry aviation and auto industry. HSR will allow us to flip the bird to these American hating bastards. Fuck you Blockygraphics you arab loving scum bag.
evantis121 1 year ago
HSR helps this great country of ours ween ourselves of foreign oil. FUCK those stinking arabs, Hugo Chaves and all the America haters in oil rich states. HSR ROCKS!!!
evantis121 1 year ago
I really belive High speed Rails would work pretty well in the USA. The USA has a lot of free space in the countryside and big citys. i know a lot of young people have to use the Bus for long distances, and this is very slow and uncomfortable. And the aviation gasoline will be more expensive in the Future
Lagerfeld2008 1 year ago 2
Richmond, Raleigh, Charlotte, Columbia, Atlanta, Charleston, The Southeast US is growing rapidly, and our interstates will not be able to handle the strain. we need High speed rail in the South. For economic growth and easier transportation.
SKULLRED2010 1 year ago
I think he has a point here. People just need to be open-minded.
bnbalenda 1 year ago
High-speed rail would free up our highways and reduce urban pollution and smog. The US needs to be an innovator again and keep up with these trends.
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sideslide23 1 year ago
@sideslide23 why do you think the service of a government train would be better? public bathrooms are the worst, anything public is usually run down.
vegaskidd 1 year ago
@vegaskidd its faster than greyhound bus, and slow moving train, and its cheaper and convenience than traveling on commercial plane, and let me ask you something What if you don't have your own car or your car wont be able to travel long distance? I'll tell you If I didn't have a Car right now, then I would definantly push for High speed train, because its I hate having to spend more time squish with the other stranger and riding buses is more stressful than driving, unless your a bus driver.
sideslide23 1 year ago
@vegaskidd is that why your house smells like dead rats?
MrEiriku 1 year ago
Gosh, why is everybody hating on high-speed rail? Look what it's done for Japan, France, Germany, Spain, Taiwan, South Korea, and China! And how can someone compare an Amtrak P42 pulling some Superliners on undedicated track to a JR Shinkansen N700 series trainset that runs on dedicated track (overpasses instead of crossings, smoother rail that is checked every week, and a min. curve radius of 5000 m), more aerodynamic, has motors in every truck, designed to run 180 mph regularily? How can u?!
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sideslide23 1 year ago
@sideslide23 Yeah, I guess so. Most people enjoy the privacy of their own cars. But, it's costing them a lot more than they think. There's maintenance, petrol, and then they have to pay for the roads indirectly. Planned obsolescence by the car manufacturers will force people to constantly buy new cars every 10-20 years. You're right. Japan and Europe are more of welfare states. The US values wealth. And that's what happened to the US in the '50s. White flight, more cars, less bus use.
th3gtr 1 year ago
@sideslide23 If HSR rail can attract relatively wealthy people, maybe through the use of a first class only car with separated cabins per trainset, then HSR will be better off. People want to be rich. But, not everyone can be. So, a lot of people act rich. If rich people ride the rails as a new, sleek, efficient, and fast way of transport and are a model to the average person, then more and more people will ride it. Things that the rich have today, the middle class will have in 30 years.
th3gtr 1 year ago
@th3gtr The Chinese rail system has been touted by American rail enthusiasts, including President Obama, as the great wave of the future. In fact, it seems to be fulfilling most of the dire prophecies of HSR opponents in the U.S. Ridership on many of the lines is below projections. Cash-flow problems have pushed the price of financing significantly higher, and may well be unsustainable. And the system is deeply unpopular with working- and middle-class Chinese, who can’t afford the pricey ticket.
VOTETHEDUMMYOUT 10 months ago
@VOTETHEDUMMYOUT America is a far wealthier country than China in terms of average income. HSR would be a great success in the U.S.; in fact, it already is in the Northeast. Just look at the Acela. Wildly popular.
johnmiles 10 months ago
@johnmiles Just look at AMTRAK a hugh failure.
VOTETHEDUMMYOUT 9 months ago
@VOTETHEDUMMYOUT Dude, did you not even bother reading my comment before you replied? Acela is part of Amtrak, you know, and the Acela and Northeast regional lines alone actually bring in more than half of their money. Just imagine how well Amtrak could be doing if it were given the means to invest and innovate in more high speed rail rather than obstructionist republicans trying to starve it.
Or could you not find another National Review article to cut and paste your response from? Busted.
johnmiles 9 months ago
@johnmiles
Amtrak is a very profitable monopolizing company.
Amtrak does extremely well for a rail company.
Yet the technology which they work on is just outdated. Nothing that amtrek can do about.
Its to government that puts the rail company offside.
Give them some technology government funding and privatise other companys and we have highspeedrail trough all states within the next 3decades.
Amtrak will multiply economic rendement if they upgraded to highspeedrail.
Armigo91 8 months ago
@th3gtr
In my view you cant compare them. But amtrak is a profitable company concerning the resources they use.
Although they would need to completely re-arange their tracks including crossings which you do not have on highspeed tracks.
Armigo91 8 months ago
@th3gtr THAT IS EASY TO ANSWER......Because here in the United States we have all been brainwashed into LOVE AFFAIRS with our cars......And now you have the TEA PART RADICALS who equate high speed rail with being a socialist......That shows you the NUT JOBS that are part of the Tea Party.....
But do not despair......As the years pass we will see what a bad mistake it was to reject high speed rail, and it will come to the good old U.S.A........You will see.......
sierracuban 7 months ago
America, just do this seriously. The United States needs this we need to show the world that we are still competitive. Let's get this started!
pawpawnorth 1 year ago
With no high-speed rail sistems America seems more like a third world country.
vikusa2008 1 year ago 3
Yeah..... I think we already tried this with AMTRAK...which STILL exists today, somewhat. Problem is, people will not give up their cars to ride trains. History will repeat itself here. Job creation is nice though.
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As an American, I am all for tax cut. I get more money in my pocket, I can buy more Chinese-made-goods, so China can have more money building their high speed rail networks.
merakhagen 1 year ago
United airline is merging with Continental. If more airlines are going to merge, what do we think will happen to airline ticket price? go down!? Puhaha...yeah right. Unless United States open its domestic airline market to foreign operators. We American pretty much screw ourselves for the last 40~50 years by overly relying on petroleum-based vehicles.
merakhagen 1 year ago
Well -- I say LET'S DO IT!!!!!! HIGH SPEED WHOO! . . . *coughs* . . . I mean, yes that would be most helpful with our transportation needs.
abbiesaurusrex 1 year ago
The Obama administration is qiuite inspiring, I share the vision thank you, thank you, American is indeed the home of the free and the brave.
bornkool 1 year ago
other countrys had these trains for such a long time.. we are behind the world.. we are becomine a second world country... its time to upgrade.. i wanted to travel to go see my gf now ex a while ago. i look at the ways to travel... plane... had to be 18.. im 17 so that didnt work... trains.. took 36 hour travel way to long... buses 22 hour and cars 20 hour and i cant even drive there so car would work. i would love to see a train system that takes 6 or 8 hours to travel instead of 36...
nighthawkm1992 1 year ago
other countries are smaller, lets talk china and india having trains then say something, japan and all of europe is small , it makes more sense there
vegaskidd 1 year ago
@vegaskidd nobody is talking about cross-country high speed rail. we're talking about smaller corridors like houston-dallas or (soon to be under construction) los angeles-las vegas
mfastx 1 year ago
@mfastx but even then, markets change and places change, this is why buses are most effective because they can change routes. There used to be the brooklyn dodgers because it once was a thriving city , you would think they would put a train there, not it would look stupid.Point made is trains aren't flexible , buses are, once you build for train thats it.
vegaskidd 1 year ago
@vegaskidd i don't get that argument. are you saying that all of the sudden nobody will be traveling between los angeles and las vegas? a train between two major cities won't need to be "flexible." there will always be demand between two major cities.
mfastx 1 year ago
@mfastx You are missing the point, its NOT the demand it is the WAY you deliver the demand. If they build it vegas to LA they stop future development of anything that might cross paths and the trains aren't even that fast compared to driving or taking a bus. With this thought then they should have ONE BIG PLANE thats goes from vegas to LA, fuck it your talking about speed right? and a PLANE doesn't harm the earth, I though you left wingers cared about the environment.
vegaskidd 1 year ago
@vegaskidd What is "anything that might cross paths?" YES, HSR is MUCH faster than taking a bus or driving (the current desertxpress is not ideal, it only goes to victorville, unless it can connect with CHSR to get to downtown LA.) once downtown, you can get on local tranist. the total trip time is less than flying as well, you don't have to get to the station over an hour early, you don't check bags, no security. and i dont give a shit about "harming the earth" HSR is more convienent
mfastx 1 year ago
@vegaskidd china is building HSR lines
MrEiriku 1 year ago
@MrEiriku Hi speed rails built by the government is not the solution into actually solving the problem, why does the government have to invest in it? Why do you guys like taking everyones money and spending it they way that you want to? I have no issue with you guys voluntarily getting together and building one for yourself, theres no one stopping you, you dont solve problems beginning the sentence "we need the government to do a b and c then everything will be better"
vegaskidd 1 year ago
I am fine with U.S. federal government doing nothing. United States does not need military forces, because we all can buy guns and grenades, and we Americans know how to defend ourselves. We also don't need highways, we can buy SUV's and they run very well on rough terrains.
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sideslide23 1 year ago
@vegaskidd china is basicallly the same size as the mainland US dipshit, learn you geography, and economics
pawpawnorth 1 year ago
@pawpawnorth Thats what I meant dumbass, it is the basically same size. Learn how to read!And studying economics will tell you that markets shift, so if people really want trains then a company will invest, if they lose who cares, if the government loses, we all lose. You like paying for the bank bailouts, farm subsidies, you don't think that if this goes through that there won't be corporate subsides? That somehow the obama is not like any other president and doesn't rely on lobbying?
vegaskidd 1 year ago
Well god forbid he try to create jobs, but in this day of idiocracy he will be criticized everytime he loses an eyelash or scratches his ass...
Stabkill 1 year ago
Omg, we spend billions dollars on transportation!
We should stop spending so much money on transportation!
-_'
kmarinas86 1 year ago
the japanese will have the best high speed maglev.
JUKIO01 1 year ago
220 mph trains wow the way to go
zedcell 1 year ago
Pay attention to Korian and Chinese highspeed!!
Korian highspeed trains are copy of the French TGV.
And, Chinese highspeed trains are copy of the Japanese Shinkansen and German ICE.
JapaneseTrain 2 years ago
I agree we need to cut spending, raise taxes so we can pay off debt. What I do not understand is, when Bush 43rd was fighting the Iraq War, where were all the Tea Partiers that screams "stop the government spending"?
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@merakhagen
While I was in Iraq and stopped by one of the "big" bases I wondered how pissed off people back home would be to know that I actually had a choice between getting Pizza Hut or Burger King or just get free Steak and Lobster tail at some Haliburton cafeteria (LSA Anaconda 2004).
I was infantry and not a REMF BTW.
TimmyHaag 1 year ago
NTSB just said commuter airlines need safety overhaul. Colgan Air's aircraft lost speed, stalled and crashed. We just keep jamming more aircrafts into the air, and jamming more inexperience pilots into them. God bless America.
merakhagen 2 years ago
if obama listened to all of your douche bag opinions nothing would get done youll all be thanking him for this in 20 years
dt24 2 years ago 3
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on the contrary, I think Obama is listening to douche bag opinions, and that is why NOTHING is getting accomplished.
ChrisESPOne 2 years ago
If you want to see a real high speed system that is way better then this then check out our videos on the high speed tunnel system. watch?v=3alBpbtAMys
TheDreamCar 2 years ago
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Is anyone actually falling for this? I can be anywhere in this country in two days, something trains will never provide high speed or not. One more big governement program designed to steal money. Don't fall for this, we won't use it , it is ineffective, our highways are excellent, don't believe him, airports and highways are less expensive that this outdated system. What makes him think security would be any less needed on the train than an airport. Pay attention They are trying to control us.
robsatease 2 years ago
People need to differential the need for intra city mass transit and inter city transit. High speed is good only for inter city that is at least 300 miles far apart. The High Speed rail station must connect to that city mass transit system whether is Airport, bus, subway or local rail central station, and car rental companies, and long term carpark. And the land that lay the track compensation or purchase is not going to be easy. As you can see, the additional investments is Huge!
sih1688 2 years ago
The U.S wants to build a high speed train from Tampa to Orlando???? ahahahahahahahahaha. What a BIG accomplishment. How about a high speed train from New york to L.A? It seems as if, compared to other developed countries, the U.S is a little underdeveloped...lol
ChrisESPOne 2 years ago
Did Obama's team said they are going to built HSR from New York to L.A.?
merakhagen 2 years ago
ya i know. it would cost a hell of a lot though.
JUKIO01 1 year ago
Also keep in mind that statistics have recently come out saying that our nation's automobile fleet has peaked - meaning the number of existing cars on the road shrank last year for the first time since the end of WWII, and is expected to remain in check for the next decade. Why? Americans, by and large young people, are migrating back into urban centers where cars are often less convenient then mass transportation. The way we travel domestically is about to change radically.
soulchild2008 2 years ago 3
As an American who has been fortunate to see other parts of the world experience their broad options for FAST and relatively inexpensive travel by mass transit, I have to say it's about time we invest in something that doesn't involve pavement or airplanes. I live in Brooklyn and I have family in DC and Virgina. I hate driving that far + it's a hassle to fly out of JFK + train travel is a lot easier than to go through the trouble of getting through airport security. Anyone relate to this?
soulchild2008 2 years ago 5
word... i had to go see my gf (now ex gf because of distance) driveing there was 21 hours and im 17 so i couldnt drive. flying there was 6 to 12 hours but you need to be 18 and once again i coundnt do that and takeing a train would be 36 hours... way 2 fucking long.. i would love to just take a train thats just as fast as a plane..we are soo behind in the world its not even funny
nighthawkm1992 1 year ago
greatest thing I have seen our government do in the past 10 years!!!
SnorklinWithCudas 2 years ago 3
I'm sick of you guys saying it's unrealistic. I live in Toronto and sometimes my family goes to Niagara Falls. It gets extremely boring after a while. Buffalo is crusty as hell and is only fun for a little while. It would be more convenient to at least hop on the light rail to take us down to MANHATTAN FOR A CHANGE!
kzalldaz 2 years ago 5
lmao "buffalo is crusty as hell"
SnorklinWithCudas 2 years ago 2
I cosign...as a New Yorker, I would love to take a nice quick train trip for the weekend up to Toronto - which btw is an awesome city visit!
soulchild2008 2 years ago 17
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Far from protecting the environment, most rail transit lines use more energy per passenger mile, and many generate more greenhouse gases, than the average passenger automobile. These projects cannot be paid for out of user fees and would cost taxpayers to subsidize at an average of $1000 per year per person. Interstates paid for themselves out of gas taxes, and most Americans use them every day. Rail requires huge tax subsidies and would regularly serve only a small elite
quizerry 2 years ago
I do not have problem of not building high speed rail, as long as critics can guarantee USA's population will not continue to grow; especially in the high density areas. Furthermore, we want guarantees that we will no longer build more "10 lane highways". In addition, we do not build more runways for airlines. Isn't the highway trust fund going red ink when people drove more efficiently during the $150/barrel oil days?
merakhagen 2 years ago
The pro-rail Center for Clean Air Policy predicts that, if the FRA's system is completely built, it will carry Americans 20.6 billion passenger miles a year in 2025. That sounds like a lot, but, given predicted population growth, it is just 58 miles per person. Who will ride these trains? Why hasn't Amtrac made a profit in over 40 years?
quizerry 2 years ago
I am okay if it is not build, but can anyone guarantee me that oil price will not rise to 150 USD/barrel again? If it will rise to that level, can anyone guarantee me that I will not pay Saudi Arabia a dime for the oil they have, so they won't churn out more terrorists who hate us?
merakhagen 2 years ago 3
I can see you do not understand the studies and the conclusions that high speed rail will not reduce congesstion, green house gases, carbon or be cost efficient. They will cost everyone $1000 a year in new taxes for someone else to ride only 58 miles a year. If they are so great then the private market will put them in. Taxpayers cannot afford billions more in spending that results in subsities and overruns abuse and fraud of another government run system.
quizerry 2 years ago
If highway is so great, why Eisenhower wants US government to build it? what about airports? I can also make the argument about defense. Those people in North Dakota has less risk of being attacked by terrorists, why do they need to pay tax to fund a federal-government-backed military?
merakhagen 2 years ago 2
dude..we cant live in the past any more..ohh sure spending spending spending lets all be jewish and not spend anything or upgrade lets all live in the 1990s ITS ABOUT FUCKING TIME WE DID SOMTHING TO MAKE TRAVEL FASTER... i wanted to go see my gf she lives 1500 miles away... im 17 i have to be 18 to fly... i cant drive.. and buses are 22 hour trips and trains are 36 HOURS THATS BULLSHIT!! we really need to stop being a second world country and upgrade this dam country
nighthawkm1992 1 year ago
@nighthawkm1992 That's your problem, be happy there is a solution that you CAN visit your gf, nobody made you have a gf so fuckin far away. You can't make me work and pay for YOUR shit. Hey I want to go to fucking fiji maybe YOU should pay for that shit. AND NEWS FLASH i f your 17 you can FLY on a plane, I flew when I was 14 didn't need to meet anyone on the other side, you only need that shit if your are going to another country and if you are an train aint going to help you!
vegaskidd 1 year ago
@vegaskidd son..go fuck your self..and its fucking 18 to fly by yourself..if your below 18 you need a parent or gaudian to sign for you
nighthawkm1992 1 year ago
@nighthawkm1992 YOU NEED THAT NO MATTER WHERE YOU GO! If you have issue with your guardian not signing shit thats YOUR problem but you CAN go on a plane by yourself. You have to be 18 to buy cigarettes too, why dont you bitch about that. THATS AN AGE ISSUE , not a travelling issue. Are you fucking serious!
vegaskidd 1 year ago
@vegaskidd no shit surelock i can get on the plane by my self i just cant buy the ticket by myself...i already knew that anyways im glad there building this rail system its not fun being a second world country. with outdated transportantion systems.
nighthawkm1992 1 year ago
Why does Obama want to be like Europe? Since Japan introduced high-speed bullet trains, passenger rail has lost more than half its market share to the automobile. Since Italy, France, and other European countries opened their high-speed rail lines, rail's market share in Europe has dwindled from 8.2 to 5.8 percent of travel. If high-speed rail doesn't work in Japan and Europe, how can it work in the United States? The cost would far out weight the benefits.
quizerry 2 years ago
I am proud that USA is different than Europe. I do not mind Uncle Sam stop taxing Americans and stop maintaining highways and bridges. Everyone should get a tax cut, so we all can drive large all-wheel amphibious SUV, go off-roading on gravel roads/boat across rivers from New York to Boston.
merakhagen 2 years ago
Lol
SnorklinWithCudas 2 years ago
You don't want a fast train? You're dumb.
SnorklinWithCudas 2 years ago 4
i like trains. country needs rail. rail is awesome. i hope plan succeeds. no need for crowded highways and expensive gas, along with crazy airports/planes
trainfan41 2 years ago 11
I noticed the Chinese HSR imported technology from German(Siemens), Japan and Canada(Bombadier), but not from the French! Ha, Ha, because France once sold Mirage fighter aircrafts to Taiwan. I guess this is Chinese's revenge against the French.
merakhagen 2 years ago
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seamaster007 2 years ago
Not a problem Merakhagen, France sold to china a lot of nuclear power stations (ARENA entreprise).
Stop thinking "i am the best ", begin to think the others can have good ideas and imitate each others.
I hope USA will success in this great idea. Its a benefit for all world that USA come out recession.. Good luck!
sirupeuse 2 years ago 4
Now I know why the usa government tested their weapons on some of us who see.
enjoixander 2 years ago
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I get it...O Bomb a= you the bomb=you the shit=shit means dope....Le HOOD=crook, BUY den= go ahead promote the transportation program of these guys. This is almost as good as Preparation H plan from Austin Powers. I know that the mafia that took over the usa must use their own dope. Because they are DOPES, morons!
enjoixander 2 years ago
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Thanks but I will walk...and if you take a high speed rail (cocaine) you will probably have so much energy you could run...unless they have too many budget cuts. I just love the hidden parallel. What kind of black president would promote drugs?Not all black americans are this dumb nor are they into drugs, how dare he represent them this way! And as far as the Secretary Le HOOD and Buy den we can have a true party for America. Hypnotized america.
enjoixander 2 years ago
I am sure the terrorists will love to bomb a high speed rail. So no shoe screening or underwear screening is not possible. However, HSR can at least board high volume of passengers in shorter amount of time by using "multiple" large doors. Still beats taking the airplane on medium distance travel.
merakhagen 2 years ago 2
The Chinese is kicking American's butt again on HSR. Reminded me how the Russian scared the cr&p out of the American during early stages of space race.
merakhagen 2 years ago 2
China and Russia are totally different animals. China has a much richer history, culture heritage, nation recognition, belief in unification, growth, adding up improving national defense system, creativity, and a robust economy.
Doooku 2 years ago
China now has a minimun wage law. It is 39 cents an hour low end to 68 cents per hour. 45 hour work weeks average. Now that they are allowed education there is a shortage of young workers who won't work for low wages and are going to college. As they get educated and demand higher wages and better work enviroments companies will be hit in lower profits there by having to charge higher prices. Some companies have already moved out of China to other lower wage 3rd world countries.
quizerry 2 years ago
God bless China. Those college graduates will have money to buy cars, and some of them will be American cars. More oil will be consumed. Those idiot Chinese has the stupidity to build at least 8 HSR lines (4 north south + 4 east west) across the country.
merakhagen 2 years ago 2
No. I'm just saying, a high speed train from Tampa to Orlando is not a big accomplishment. When it comes to innovation and accomplishments U.S ranks last among the developed countries. Even "our" technology comes from foreign countries, or because of foreigners in our country. A high speed train from New York to California would be a big accomplishment not fucking tampa to orlando , thats only 86 miles!! LOL
ChrisESPOne 2 years ago
Actually, building New York to L.A. HSR will be a smaller accomplishment compare to the Tampa-Orlando line. Because flying from New York to L.A. makes more sense.
merakhagen 2 years ago
@merakhagen we own your 2 100 000 000 000 dollars...... HAHAHAHAHAHA
hing1378 2 years ago
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@merakhagen
"Those idiot Chinese has the stupidity to build at least 8 HSR lines (4 north south + 4 east west) across the country."
I like your sense of humor.
kmarinas86 1 year ago
Panama canal, hoover dam, these projects happened during recessions! This isn't a pyramid, or even a tourist trap idea... this is real progress with real benefits! Let's do it already!
longhairedartist 2 years ago 4
sorry i make a big error : paris - lyon is not 100 miles but 350 miles sorry (like the record of speed of the TGV Lyons Paris = about 570 km)
because 100 euro for 100 miles this would be extremely expensive ! plz excuse me ... 100 euro for 350 miles for go and return
in dollars normally cost are 20-30 cents by miles ... desolate yesterday I calculated on the basis of 100 miles Paris - Lyons, while it is 350 miles !
alpacks 2 years ago
for help you to make an idea of ticket price HST, in france, TGV a return ticket Paris - Lyon near 100 miles travel is about 100 euro without any reduction (in France according to the timetable, the age, the period in year prices differ to take the TGV as everything trains) max price
but with reduction if they choose one timetable digs, has a period of weak tourist traffic they can hope to pay 70 euro
to make you an idea of how much prices of tickets
alpacks 2 years ago
for go and return ... I specify !
i think in USA when HST will be ready you will pay 1.5-2 $ in simple itinerary by miles, 1-1.5 $ for return tickets (go and return)
I would recommend you to envisage of big train a big capacity as for exemple in France the double TGVS (2 TGVS coupled together for a capacity maximum of passengers)
because it will have one success some ! people are going to throw themselves, any ceux over who detest the plane ect
alpacks 2 years ago
Obama needs to Stop wasting Billions on war in Afghanastin, he sent 30,000 troops in Afghanastin, and they wont pull out untill 2011 so the HSR may been corrupted by the War in Afghanastin.
sideslide23 2 years ago
America had a Proposal on the Table in California in 1982.
Search for
NOVA - 1982 - Tracking The Supertrains
6 Parts. It's all there.
See it to believe it.
Modeltrainguy 2 years ago 2
I am quite proud to be a rail enthusiast from the country that invented the railways. The USA and Canada are far behind the rest of the world in rail standards. However, the French TGV networks from what I've seen just have two straight tracks that have speed limits of over 180mph. Perhaps, for the USA and Canada, four tracks would be more ideal? Keeping the fast intercity services on the inside lines, and freight and commuter services on the outside would reduce congestion on the new routes.
Welwyn22 2 years ago 3
Me too. I believe that this new vision, no, not a vision, an investment that will create millions of new jobs, lessen pollution, and be the cause of a decrease in economic crisis. I'm all for it Mr. B.O. America needs to catch up to Japan, China, and other countries. Just one thing...what about MEXICO?!?!?!
dragoniblaze 2 years ago 3
This is what The United States needs. And this country can afford it!
SBACRU 2 years ago 6
We need high speed rail to connect Atlanta to New York and LA. This is awesome!
Lingerfoot 2 years ago