The Battle of Grunwald / Walka 600-lecia- Bitwa pod Grunwaldem - Słowianie - Bagiński

[dorotamaj20]

My right ear... :(

[d12239]

i agree with whatever zozusjage said...

[VioletteChevre]

that guy's a witcher! XD

[zozusjaga]

,,THE BATTLE OF GRUNWALD 1410 3D ,,

[zozusjaga]

THIS IS MOVE LONG ,,GRUNWALD 1410,, 3D  YES THIS IS REALL WE HEW THE BEST GRAFICES SPECILIST POLEND IS THE BEST POLEND KICK GARMANE PEOPLE NOW WE LIKE GERMANE PEOPLE RESPECT PEACE

[xshakerpiotr]

da ktoś link do obejrzenia

[morerad123]

Is this a real movie?

[OriginalMaster20]

is this a movie ???

[fuji091]

what is that ????help me very likes for me

[Oo0UpSs]

Wtedy Grunwald, dziś ACTA

[janekoman12]

wtf on this move hollywood crap:S

[girlwholivesonheaven]

dobra robota, panie Bagiński! :)



[Stokosable]

Zachód, a głównie szwaby dostały po ..... XD

[MrSmerfff]

Widzi mi się film o Grunwaldzie a potem o Husarii

[zippek1DD]

zrób więcej

to jest super =D

[pakgarryinabag]

My left ear..............

[WickedSquirel]

epic



[rafalkudlaty]

nie wiem, nie ogarniam, może to kwestia promocji - mówię o komentarzach w języku angielskim (na marginesie, nie stanowi to dla mnie problemu) ale dlaczego pod TAKIM filmikiem nie ma polskich wpisów??

odnośnie samego filmu, to zawsze byliśmy zajebiści :) dziś też możemy... zacznijmy od najprostszych rzeczy :)

[TheWerantu]

@rafalkudlaty bo tytuł to The battle of Grunwald

[rafalkudlaty]

@TheWerantu ale opowiada o jednym z największych zwycięstw polskiego oręża, jest zrobione przez Polaka... i pewnie jeszcze kilka innych rzeczy by się znalazło.

[voltiure]

story of Poland should be shown that way, it would be better than Lord of the Rings ... or we should just make The Witcher Movie :D

[Prozent37]

@ke5has - Maybe you do not notice this but your lithuanian state symbol Pahonia have swastika on its shield !!! Also many of your friends decorate they profiles with swastika. I know this is old symbol but since 1933 and 1939 it stands in our cultural circle only for National Socialism, holocaust and Hitler. I dont have any symbols like this on my profile.

[ImmortalHardOn]

@Prozent37

swastika is used in eastern countries as a sign of defiance to the ever-present communism, doesnt mean neccesairly anything else, chill out with the zionistic propaganda

[Prozent37]

@ImmortalHardOn - When I see swastika I think of Hitler ans Nazis like the most people in our culture. I see a sign, that was a symbol of death of many millions of people. I think there is something wrong with you.

[ImmortalHardOn]

@Prozent37

not really, swastika is used in many cultures, on statues of Buddha, greek pottery, native indians is america, nordic cultures etc. If its a black swastika in on white circle on a red flag then yeah, thats fascistic symbol, otherwise it is probably not so chill out. there is nothing wrong with me, i am just more educated about cultures and history of the world so swastika doesnt freak me out like the rest today's world

[Prozent37]

@ImmortalHardOn - I know what this symbol meens in Asia but we live in Europa and here it meens something else entirely - " i am just more educated about cultures and history" - I studied archeology and history of art.

[ImmortalHardOn]

@Prozent37 It means something different in Europe, greeks, nords, celts, slavs live in Europe also, in poland and lithuania it is for example used in regional neopaganistic religions as well as in history before we adopted christianity it was symbol of thunder gods etc. i studied archaeology and classical history too, now doing history of architecture degree but this has nothing to do with the fact your bigotry simply forces you to consider anyone reppin the swastika as a jew killing nazi.

[Prozent37]

@ke5has - you are from Lithanien so you should know this very well. 1385 Union of Krewo brought Duke of Lithuania Jagiello to Polish throne( personal union); 1413 Union of Horodło - heraldic union, that granted many nobles rights to Lithuanian nobility; July 1, 1569 – Union of Lublin — a real union - Respublica of both Nations -

it was a common state of Poles and Lithuanians ruled by a common monarch - one King, common borders and enemies.

[p5mcgyver]

Lithuanian Canadian, proud as hell, RIP Gpa Vytas

[rraaddeekk1221]

zajeżdża motywem z 300

[Prozent37]

@ke5has - Lithuanien was for long time a part of Poland but Poland was not only a state of polish people. Poland was polish as well as lithuanian and polish history is also lithuanian history. We were once one nation - or something like this :)

[ImperialGuard9001]

@Prozent37 Lithunians Poles and like 100 different nations xD

[KrzysiekWawrytko]

O wyniku bitwy zadecydowało 50 chorągwi polskiej jazdy rycerskiej, na czele z Wielką Chorągwią Ziemi Krakowskiej. Spis tych chorągwi można znaleźć u Długosza. Bardziej rozbudowane szczegóły można znaleźć w wielkim dziele prof. Stefana Marii Kuczyńskiego (Uniwersytet Śląski) - "Bitwa pod Grunwaldem", Katowice 1987.

[ollla3]

Eryk Lubos - dlaczego akurat on ?

[hermagnificence]

Fajne, tylko szoda, że Bagiński stał się teraz nadwornym rzemieślnikiem III RP, zamiast poświęcić się rzeczom większym.

[Blackwater23]

@hermagnificence np. jakim?

[SaberGW]

@ke5has History lesson in "Engrish" ?

[demoon222]

Jakim debilem trzeba być by dać negatywa przy tak wspaniałym filmiku. Mam nadzieję że te 2 osoby po prostu z wrażenia omyłkowo kliknęły negatyw...

[hermagnificence]

@demoon222 Mniej więcej takim, który nie potrafi uszanować prawa innych do własnego zdania.

[palaszl]

jednym słowem: o ku*waaaa!

[ThePolakpower]

Jebany krzyzak! Zabic go!!!!!!!!!!!!

[3DSFuture]

@ke5has Lithuanians were only 15% of Commonwealth

[VarykGerai]

@3DSFuture so? it existed because of these 15% :P

[dobryvmax]

Są na tym Świecie rzeczy Piękne ...są też piękniejsze....

[krytyk13]

Ilekroć to oglądam, tylekroć mi się podoba.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has Vatican? The first Rome, do you forget the "third Rome" - Moscow? Catholics use the Latin script, orthodoxes the Greek one.

The only educated and literate people then were the preists, monks, clerics etc. Probably these runes you mean also knew just the pagan preists, but... the other states didn`t know it ! The Lithuanian Dukes choose by themselves to employ the Rusin writers, no "Rome" forced anybody.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has ... so how many took that land? Face it, most of people in that area were Polish already and not some "colonists", but locals who lived there since gnerations. I wasn`t talking about the history of XXc.

The only "slavicised" Lithuanians were elites, like the Dukes from Gediminid family, but tell me... were the Rusin families like Sapega or Chodkiewicz patriots of the Grand Duchy, or not?

Vitovt was baptisted as orthodox and wanted to rule the whole Ruś, but his plan failed at Worskla.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has I will, but you seems to not understand me. I`m not talking about the present Vilnius and Lithuania, but about HISTORY. Even many Polish speaking Lithuanians considered and still consider themselves as "Lithuanians", not becouse of language they speak. For ages the most influential Lithuanian family - Radziwiłł - spoke only Latin, Polish or German, but... they were patriots of Lithuania.

Why you thinks these censuses were falsyfied?

Locals (tutejsi) were mostly Belarussians.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has I`m not denying th origin of Lithuanian Grand Dukes and i`m sure thier names have a Lithuanian origin too, but... we don`t know how was the Lithuanian language THEN, at that times nobody wrote in it.

In Lithuania there were sources written in Ruski and then Latin and Polish, that`s not good... it`s a tragedy of Baltic Lithuanians they didn`t developed thier own writings and literature at that times and later, after partitions, Moscow even BANNED the very name "Lithuania".

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has

That`s funny, becouse when the first population censuses were made in Lithuania before, during and after WWI, the majority of Vilnius, Kaunas and other major towns spoke Polish.... How`s that now?

Duchyies of Polotsk, Slutsk, Novohradek etc... were christian a long time before Mindoug.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has Try looking at thier seals, subscriptions under documents and chronics, you`ll not find there these names you wants so desperatelly to use...

Also no source for the name "Kęstutis", his name was recorded as Кейстут - Keistut. No idea how he called his kids becouse he never wrote that.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has Can you adress your comments as replies to mine?

No need to guess, there are written sources from that time and none of them calls them like present Lithuanian language does.

Yes, i have Lithuanian roots, my family used to live in Minsk, Nowogródek and Vilnius. I don`t mind genetics, it`s about the culture and identity.

[licicaviki]

@ke5has 56% of Poles has R1a1 gene and Lithuania has 45% of R1a1 gene... (R1a1 is found at highest levels among Slavs not Baltic) ... But if Poles has Lithuanian roots. There is more Lithuanians in Poland than in Lithuania isn`t it? ;-)

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has No, sorry, but Kings in Poland weren`t almighty, absolute rulers, in fact before the Free Election was established, Kings were chosen and controlled by the Senate, a Royal Council. Belive me, we had our own interest and reasons to fight the Teutonic Order, but only Lithuania got its land back (Samogitia) after the victory.

Can you proove that Vitovt and Igalo were called by these names that present Balts use? I can proove they were called Władysław and Aleksander, no problem.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has So how was it forced? Alexander and Władysław were giving privillages, nobility, or just money and goods for baptism... read about the union of Horodło. Religion was a political tool, that`s why Vitovt was got baptisted twice, once for Teutons, once for his own politics towards the orthodox, Ruś.

In Poland christianisation was much more brutal, people even rebelled in XIIc, expelled the King and country again becomed pagan.

[AbyssOfNight]

genialna animacja!!!!!!!!!!!

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has Peacefully becouse it was a decission of the Lithuanian elites, as far as i know Poland made no "crusade" on Lithuania to baptise it. It was of course a political decission. Why you thinks the name given on baptism is not a "real" one? This was thier decission to change thier names...

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has Most of Lithuania was christian already, orthodox christian, the rest was getting christianised (peacefully) and both King Władysław and Duke Alexander were baptisted already. It was not a religious war...

W.Jagiełło fought not against Lithuania, but many times against his cousins FOR Lithuania and for his own power in it.

Officially Order was not a part of HRE, not even later when its lands becomed a secular Duchy of "Prussia".

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has With whole respect to the King, he ordered the Polish army to be commanded by Zyndarm z Maszkowic. Vitovt was the field commander of Lithuanian army, but King Włądysław stayed on a hill, like Tatars used to do. Sure they all deserve respect, but i have some reasons and a right to criticise thier politics, at that time people also were critic... Thnks to saint King Jadwiga we didn`t sent our army to support Duke alexander at Worskla, he got tricked like a kid.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has No, not many historians cares about that, but i know some old prints, thanks to our digital libraries.

What Germany? If you mean so called Holy Roman Empire, then there was no reason to fight it. Yes, i did answered, the catholic order attacked also catholic Poland many times, took our lands and was insulting our King Władysław in its propaganda. The truth is that the pagan Duke Vitiovt could allie to the "crusaders" against his cousin Grand Duke... religion was just a tool of politics.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has They were... Dukes, that was thier "nationality". One becomed a King of Poland, second wanted to become a Duke of Moscow and whole Ruś, but was not a best politician or a warrior to do it (shame at Worskla).

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has As real as thier declartations, documents, seals and subscriptions. They fought for the land and power, same as Teutons, religion was just an excuse.

Insult? Don`t be funny...

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has But i don`t even know if they spoke present Lithuanian or which dialect. All i know are thier names written in the Ruski, Latin and Polish chronics and documents.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has No sorry, i`ve checked and Ptolemy points just (muntains?) "Ripaei, the middle of which is in" in Sarmatia, next to that there are "great Venedae", but Sarmatia was a very big land. Balts invented by Germans? You probably mean the name, so... no, it`s from Baltic - white sea, in German Ost See - east sea.

I`m not "racist"... i just laught at the XVIIc theories of a Roman founders of Lithuanian or the Polish connection to the Vandals. It`s funny.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has I`m not sure if i understand your comment.

Anyway the language wasn`t important for the national awarnes, Ruski speaking Lithuanias didn`t liked Moscow, Polish speaking also didn`t loved Poland. But this is just about the elites - nobility, pesantry had absolutelly no clue about the languages or politics and had no national feelings. There were just no nations in its modern meaning.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has I thought we`re generally exchanging opinions about the time of that battle and all the background.

Well, King Władysław also didn`t wanted his cousin Alexander to get too important, the crown was also in the interest on Teutons.

Yes, so did the baptism by the Teutons helped Witold? They didn`t cared for baptism of Jagiełło either. Which preference? I`d say it was preferential for Lithuania that Poles couldn`t settle or take the offices in it, but Lithuanians could in the Crown.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has

Easy... "key to history"? I don`t see "Sudova" on a map of Ptolemy, but there are some hits in google also considering Galindia, anyway the Balts in most of the Roman maps are called "Aestii".

Don`t get too much excited, our ancestors thought they come from Vandals and yours from Romans becouse Lithuanian sounds similar to Latin hahaha Google: "Palemonids".

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has Rome was a Republic for a longer time than it was an Empire, since Octavian August.

Both countries in the union were equal, it also depends on the union, but the separation of Grand Duchy and the Crown was clear. Separate armies, treasury, marshalls, parliaments until the union of Lublin, but even then there were local parliaments ("sejmik").

No, i don`t say they weren`t Lithuanians, but i`m asking, what was thier national awarnes? Did Iogailo becomed Polish when he was "Władysław"?

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has Which battle? Both cousins got baptisted, Vitovt even twice, second in the orthodox rite and took a name "Alexander"... Świdrygiełło got a name "Bolesław", Skirgiełło "Ivan" (orthodox) and there was also "Zygmunt".

The orthodoxy was freely spreading, but the catholicism was more a thing of politics and... economy, every pagan was getting new cloths or another goods for baptism. Guess who sponsored that?

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has Can`t understand the first link, what protocol is that "y" ? Also, no information in google about "Alphabetum paganum Lithuanum". The second link doesn`t work, the third the same (what protocol? "htt p" or "ww w" ?)

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has I think that the K. of Poland and G.D. of Lithuania had more independence in that union than we have in EU, maybe even the separate Voivodeships, vassal Duchyies and Royal Towns had. That union, with different treatyies, survived about 400 years... how long will it take EU before partitions?

Ok, i really belive that these "pagan" names and a name "Lietuva" have some root in your present language, but... how`s that in the other Baltic dialects or languages? In Latvian, Samogitian etc?

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has So what did they fought for? What were the cousins Igailo and Vitovt fighting for? As for the nationality... do you think Władysław Jagiełło was feeling more Polish, or Lithuanian, or... like his mother, Rusin? Did he fought for Poland, or Lithuania against Witold - Aleksander and then together against the Teutons?

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has Languages are passed through the generations even in the societyies without code of writing, even many ancient texts were at first passed orally, like Illiade and Oddysey of Homer, or even Bible. The name of a state was Grand Duchy of Lithuania, but the Grand Duke had also the other titles. There were Duchyies like Polotsk, Pinsk, Turow, Slutsk, Mstislav, Vitebsk, Smolensk etc... then adopted Polish administration with Voivodeships, but Samogitia was made a Duchy.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has No problem.

Not older than Sanscrit, just closer to it, so just very old, no denying that. For sure neighboring people are mixing, but i seriously doubt that "slavicisation" took place amongst the illaterate pesantry, the elites were assimilating. You know that the citisens of the Crown couldn`t settle in Grand Duchy ?

Are there any Baltic runes (alphabet) that we can read at now?

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has I know the Baltic languages are old, but they`re evolving and they also have several dialects, you can`t tell even if Igailo and Vitovt spoke Lithuanian, for sure they spoke Ruski becouse of thier mothers and for sure we have written sources in this language about them. It doesn`t matter what thier names means, Latin names we all use means nothing in our languages.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has Yes i know the Bulgarian missionaries Ciril and Methodius made the Slavic alphabet besed on Greek, but our alphabet is based on Latin. It`s not my fault Balts had no alphabet or written sources, Lithuania was at first under the influence of Greek - orthodox culture, then Latin - catholic, but it was like that, nobody forced your elites to rule this way.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has Yes christians, both Latin and Greek were writing sources we can use today. Now i see Baltic Lithuanians who wants to take the history of Grand Duchy from the Rusin Lithuanians... present "Belarussians".

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has Please, read about the naming conventions in the Latin culture, the names are given on the baptism after some patron - a saint. The names of "pagan" Dukes, born from the othodox mothers, were written in the Lithuanian sources... but in the Ruski language, then they were described in the Latin and Polish chronics and thier "pagan" names usually were becoming surnames like Jagiełło.

It`s not about statehood or nationality, then whole Europe spoke Latin like today everybody speaks English.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has .. they should be pronounced by thier names that were written in the times they lived in, so Igailo (Ruski), Ladislau (Latin) or Władysław (Polish) and the same goes for Vitovt (Ruski), Witold (Polish) or Alexander....

Don`t make the "propganda" of present historiography, use the original historic sources.

[MaximusProteus]

@ke5has First of all "Vytautas" and "Jogaila" are the contemporary Baltic names, thier real names were Vitovt and Igailo, that`s what`s written in the Lithuanian chronices, in Ruski of course.

Poland fought against Teutons a long time before they reached Samogitia and Aukstata, they took many of our lands and we got nothing back after the war and batle of Grunwald... only Lithuania got back Samogitia, which was sold by Vitovt / Aleksander.

[nyggasero]

ja chce filmy w jego wykonaniu przede wszystkim 300, i Grunwald.

[HHHkol]

@ke5has ehm, so? wasnt Jagiełło king of Poland? He was even baptized. Than Anna (Polish/Italian) becomes the king of Abiejų tautų respublika. So where the hell is propaganda? Ur comment is sooo dumb o.O

[zolnierz6525]

Dowód na to że polak potrafi.

[comedian72res]

Dlaczego nie widziałem tej zajebistej reklamy w telewizji?

[Quetzalgoatl]

Großartig ! greetings from Germany

[robdog55able]

@Quetzalgoatl hello neighbor

[MasterUkacz]

To jest Genialne, ale "katedry" nic nie przebije...

[pygrus]

Cudo. Tylko takie filmy chciałabym widzieć!

A z takich się uczyć o PRAWDZIWEJ historii....

Marzenie.!

[madisonn90]

ale cudeńko, tylko pogratulować autorowi

[Pavel012345TS]

Zajebiste... Obejrzał bym cale z miłą chęcią.

[wirusssunited]

@Pavel012345TS to tyle ;p bo to jest taki spot tylko

[Shakaras]

Nikt nie da na to kasy, bo wola finansowac produkcje "starych mistrzow"

a jak teraz robi Hoffmann film o bitwie warszawskiej, to nie lepiej by bylo, zeby zrobic ja w ten sposob co te spoty?

[Diobelo81]

@Shakaras Bitwa Warszawska w 3D będzie

[tonsil1111]

Oj prawda jeśli ktoś potrafi nagrać taki zajebi..... spot to dlaczego nikt nie nagra tak dobrego filmu, obecnie jesteśmy zalewani filmami z tymi samymi aktorami już do znudzenia i nisko budżetowymi panie Polański i inni, wasze filmy chowają się w porównaniu z tym spotem i PRL-owskim filmem jak na razie najdroższym w Polsce KRZYŻACY!!!!!!!

[Phantom1992PL]

jak bym zobaczył taki film o naszych w takiej jakości itp to bym sie usrał ze szczęścia

[adamczik]

@Phantom1992PL A pomyśl ile takich filmów, o jakości przesłania Braveheart i w jakości wykonania tego filmiku, można by o Polsce nakręcić? Całą masę. Krzyżacy, Potop, Pan Wołodyjowski, Odsiecz Wiedeńska, bitwa pod Kłuszynem, Insurekcja Kościuszkowska, Kampania Wrześniowa 1939, Cud nad Wisłą, Ogniem i Mieczem (akurat ten film, mimo paru błędów, jest bardzo dobry, ale można by nakręcić remake). Nareszcie świat usłyszałby o Polsce i o naszej historii i kulturze.

[szybkiJurij]

@Phantom1992PL Będziesz miał okazję jak T. Bagiński skończy "Hardkor44" :)

[rochu3x3]

Powinni wykorzystać te spoty i zrobić film pełnometrażowy, bo naprawdę świetne są ;)

[Shakaras]

Bitwa pod Kluszynem zostala potraktowana po macoszemu

:(((

[kapturczyn]

tak, świetna robota, jeszcze powiedzcie, kto jest autorem muzyki???

[kapturczyn]

tak, świetna robota, jeszcze powiedzcie, kto jest autorem muzyki

[Pusia414]

super animacja^^ mysle, ze mozemy byc z tego dumni jako Polacy

[MistrzPodziemi93]

zajebiste



[simonienko]

Dla mnie też nudne. I to jest w pełni subiektywna ocena. Po co się od razu unosić? Pewnie z PiS-u jesteś...

[MyBullterier]

zrób coś podobnego sam a pózniej pisz że nudne,,,,sam jesteś nudny pewnie w życiu...

[szopq]

@MyBullterier Gość napisał opinię o filmiku, który obejrzał. Ty napisałeś opinię o gościu, którego pewno nie widziałeś na oczy. Uspokój się i pisz, że Ci się podoba, jeśli tak jest.

[patgaret]

nudne 

[POWROTTATY]

1410-2010 : 600lat bitwy pod Grundwaldem

1610-2010 : 400lat bitwy pod Kłuszynem

[Wofka1986]

@POWROTTATY Both battles are not what you claim them to be.