Sonic 2 Hd

[PhoenixKing0617]

God damnit is this released yet?

[Theycallmetoastdude]

y u no have hd?

[hivemind99999]

cmon dudes... its a 3 YEARS old video... time to release tis game or call it VAPORWARE

[AiRJaYzGo]

Here is proof from the sonic retro forum. "You guys can put any issues with the Tech Demo behind for good at this point. It's literally running on obsolete code. The alpha release will be running on a far more optimized version of the engine, thanks in no small part to the feedback you've given us on the TD." So to everyone saying this game sucks and that Sonic 4 is better I agree with dhedarkhcustard you should go do just that. Classic Sonic with Tails and Knuckles, no stupid Shadow/Silver!

[nbaytony]

xactly what am i looking at??

[ProtestantsRUs]

This video is crap, doens't load.

[megakia123]

sonic 4 got better physics then this

[mrpeanut188]

@megakia123 Sonic can step on a dime. Also do you not see the 2? It

is based off the old games physics, but SEGA is too lazy to make a remake.

Also, it is a Tech demo to test the main physics. They released it for bugs and to

see the physics in motion.

[mrpeanut188]

@mrpeanut188 As in "Sonic can step on a dime." I meant Sonic 4's physics. Not in the first 3 games.

[dhedarkhcustard]

Why are people so negative about this? Go suck 3D Sonic's dick and get over it, most of you probably have never even tried programming or making artwork for games. To me this project looks like a lot of time and effort and I can't wait for it to come out.

[FalzarZ]

@dhedarkhcustard FACE PALM, 3d Sonic have nothing to do with the negativity.

[dvcsilva]

I WANT THIS GAME NOW...

[UltimateTibu]

FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL FAIL! This game is gonna be the biggest failure since Sonic The Hedgehog 2006. Do us all a favor fans, and stop making crappy games. Leave it to the pros. You're just shaming Sonic with this slow garbage.

[yourneighborsdog]

@UltimateTibu Shut up. You have no idea how much time and effort it took just to get this far into the project. Also, it's not slow, it's just zoomed out.

[CROCOJAW47FILMS]

*sigh* Moron. 16-bit doesn't get more HD that 16-bit.....

[harper16]

@CROCOJAW47FILMS *sigh* Moron. This game is programmed to run on 32bit processors, not the old Motorola 68000. Therefore its a 32 bit game. Just because the colours might be 16 bit (which they aren't) doesn't mean the whole way the game runs is still 16 bit. Do you think this game would run in vista/windows 7 if it wasn't anything other than 32bit programming?

[BurnSchulz]

sucks

[InsanimationStudios]

@BurnSchulz It's a tech-demo. All it shows is physics and mostly what the graphical system is. It's not realy a game yet. Don't go off and say something sucks until atleast you play the Alpha version. Besides, a lot of people put a lot of work into what this game is so far. It's not easy making a good game like this.

[SMG2fan112]

/watch?v=gf_s0Cjnl4k&feature=r­elated this guy would be great at making music for this

[OrielFilms]

Is this going to be widescreen?

[zecle]

sega should have remastered ALL old sonics in HD as capcom did for street fighter and shiny for earthwormjim.

THIS would kick some ass !

[SpideyFan1993]

@zecle They did with ultimate genesis collection and Sonic 1-3 on the Xbox marketplace.

[WHISTLEHEADtheTRAINZ]

Does this use the original engine or a fan-made one?

[InsanimationStudios]

@WHISTLEHEADtheTRAINZ It uses an engine heavily based off of Sonic 3's. And I mean heavily.

[ProSkater1111111]

WTF?????

[FlashBrosDim]

This is how Sonic 4 should look

[chf02]

the music is great great job

[Geno11116]

who would play a sonic 2D game that as a screen like that?

[xXHalfieXx]

@Geno11116 Testers. . .

[jesuzizinmybedroom]

looks gorgeous

[gamerguy425]

so this is 64 bit?

[harper16]

@gamerguy425 32bit

[Devandevande]

Looks slightly like sonic 4...

[Vandelay16]

@Devandevande

no, Sonic 4 looks like shit compared to this.

[OfficialEroGame]

This game is dead

[TomicTheHedgehog]

I'm looking forward to this. Sonic 2 in HD, WOW!

[Winterfang]

What the hell is this crap?

[Rnt911]

@Winterfang It's a fan game made by people just like you, if you think it's a crap, make it better.

[Winterfang]

@Rnt911

I wouldn't waste my time taking a perfectly fine game and making it worse.

[blainey25]

Seems pretty mediocre IMO..

[Abazigal]

It's a tech demo...

[leviwellsy]

The music sounds like it's from Street Fighter Alpha 2. LOL

[Wellingtomlol55]

they never create, only beta alpha chalie shitie motherfucker version but never the full

[katakisLives]

If this was finished, would it be a stand alone game or run on an emulator?

[LegendaryPlaystation]

stand alone

[wariofan279]

@LegendaryPlaystation

So It's Going to be Released at Retail?,Downloadable Services like XBLA?

[gundrag000]

original sonic is better than this HD ver. becuz it is not dot art.

[gundrag000]

gay design. don't release this game

[TreyRust]

this project seems abandoned... are they still working on it?

[slightlytwistedagain]

@TreyRust

No it hasn't been abandoned. There is an Alpha release of Emerald Hill Zone on the 15th of March.

[NiteWatch001]

really?

[WritersBlah]

THIS = WHAT SONIC 4 SHOULD BE

[Gamez1985]

Do you think Sonic HD is in any way affiliated with SEGA or Sonic Team? lol

The reaction time and physics seem identical to the actual Sonic 2. Did some kind of pc wizard actually gut some of it for this? I've never seen someone use the actual games code for anything except simple conversions for roms.

[slightlytwistedagain]

@Gamez1985

Question 1: No. It's not affiliated with SEGA or the Sonic Team. It's a fan remake by a team at Sonic Retro.

Question 2: The physics have been built from the ground up. The code is based on the S&K game engine which is even better than Sonic 2 as it is a more fine tuned engine. Lost is the programmer that did it. The last alpha release really showed off the physics and is miles times better than what you see in this video.

[pejnismiggle]

The only 2 people i know who were meant for 2D, Are Sonic, And Simon Belmont.

[Ketorulz]

Why you didn't say Mario is meant for 2D, is beyond me!

[pejnismiggle]

Well, they are getting there, they made him 2D in his new games, but they were like, 10 levels. its not at all like SMB3 Or SMW were u have a large selection of worlds.

[Ketorulz]

10 LEVELS? Are you OUT OF YOUR MIND??? There were 50+ levels, just like the other games, divided into 8 worlds, LIKE the other games. No counter-argument there, because it's a fact.

[yvaaar]

@Ketorulz 50+??? sonic 3 & knuckles had 30 or something and thats the biggest one

[gundrag000]

you don't know the art of dot and the reason why KOF 13 is dot art.

[hypersonic123456]

@Ketorulz actually thats not entirely true Sonic 1 had 6 regular levels splt into 3 acts a 1 act final zone and 6 special stages for a total of 25 levels. Sonic 2 had 7 zones split into 2 acts 2 mini zones 1 act final boss 1 zone split into 3 acts and 7 special stages for a total of 27 levels. Sonic 3 had 14 regular levels (when combined with S&K which is sonic 3s other half) 14 zones split into 2 acts and 14 special stages (chaos + super) for a total of 42 levels.

[Ketorulz]

@hypersonic123456 I was talking about Mario here. Yeah I know it confuses a lot of people because Youtube didn't automate the "@*insert username here*" function back then. Sorry.

[firereed4]

@pejnismiggle And Donald Duck, the original MegaMan, and

[pejnismiggle]

Could they sell this to sega? and let them sell it on the 360 and PS3? also, if they are going to do that, they should put in the options, to be able to change the music to the classic, or this new 1.

[MajorasWrath97]

Sega owns the property, so they won't have to buy it.

[pejnismiggle]

True Dat.

[geoscience]

Why is is that fans can make a better sonic game than the actual developers? Tsk, tsk, tsk; sega you fail me..you can't even bring out Shenmue! Does a fan have to make that one too?

[jackle86]

@geoscience *Ahem* EXCUSE me? Are you trying to say that this game is better than the original, Sonic the Hedgehog 2? If so, you're lying to yourself and everyone else.

Thank you, have a nice day.

[kiuju2k]

haha Sega yo fail.

[JBHutto]

Skip to 2:52 if you really want to see what it looks like. Of course it looks a lot better if you're actually playing it.

[fecfan]

1 word: KNUX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gabrieljasintoprado]

haaa yo me lo quiero descargar!!!

[darkx602]

Seriously guys, don't you know how much better they've made the game since this video was posted?

[124SonicXT]

oh spoeaking of Sonic HD I found some HD sonic, Tails, and Knucles sprites just now.

[mortalkonlaw]

Their take on the music sucks. Plus he floats too much when jumping.  Yes, I know I'm whining and doing nothing to help. : /

[arkadarius]

@mortalkonlaw Dude, I like the music.

[Avasonewingedangel]

when the hell r they gonna make the full game?!

[sonicsuperstarprince]

coming in 2010 says Sonic Retro.

[KailofthePlushies]

Why is this game NOT in widescreen? I understand the original game wasn't in widescreen, but I also understand the original game wasn't in HD either. If you're going to make a game in HD, might as well make it widescreen too.

[Landstalker32x]

I wonder why Sonic 2 HD is so sterile?

In my opinion it is like sonic 2 in a gens emulator :( (with som more details - but nothing what is realy possibile with the todays RAM and Disc Space)

[Landstalker32x]

And: I think the original Sonic3 has better paintings (low res) and more live in the game and in the graphics.

[kevinkost83]

Wow the level design look interesting! Sonic looks awesome!

[civicguy2k]

I must say, I have yet to see one fanmade game worth looking into, until this.

You guys have the art spot on..

[SonicMaverick3000]

Wow, this seems like a good alternative to Project Needlemouse

[JIEHUH1990]

fun alternative)

[JIEHUH1990]

very very good!very quality remake!COming soon

[mannymanuel259]

Love the remastered music!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! XD

[InsanimationStudios]

isn't it a little suspicios that sega would anounce making a new 2-d sonic game? right when some old-school fans are making a remake? it's like their making it just so they don't lose what respect they have left. it's like their afraid people might ignore their sonic games so the are attempting to make a better game. but seeing how much sega has failed recently it will most likely suck balls. but then again, there is a chance they will dig themselves out of the ditch they are in. :-)

[AtheistBrit]

The key difference though is that Sega are making an entirely new game, whilst the fans are doing a remake. Those are very different things. Hopefully Sega have finally woken up and are listening to the fans.

Some of the 3D games were good, nothing wrong with the 3D concept, it's just they keep churning out these meaningless new characters instead of developing a storyline. Hopefully the new 2D game will be closer to the roots but still something new.

[sonicness]

I seriously hope to God your right. it cant be that hard to make a sonic game. either they wake up and make it right or give it to some other developer to make a sonic game.

[chickenfetusnarr]

no, what sega did was take away the one secret weapon sonic had against mario....the pinball physics

[Winterfang]

@chickenfetusnarr

Yeah I remember fondly playing Physics the Hedgehog...oh wait a minute, I was a kid so I didn't give a fuck. I liked the game because Sonic was cool and fast.

[chickenfetusnarr]

@Winterfang As did most children (including myself). Of course we weren't paying attention to that, but just because we werent paying attention to the physics it doesnt mean that they weren't there doing their part. With pinball physics under Sonic's belt he has a (potential) edge over Mario in terms of creative gameplay.

[chickenfetusnarr]

@Winterfang Since 1999 Sega's been relying SOLELY on "cool" and fast. look at where that's got Sonic: now he never shuts the fuck up, saying the corniest groan-and-cringe-inducing things in an attempt to sound "super cool duuuude". The gamepay has also devolved into mediocre simplicity: effortless speed for the sake of speed, and a bunch of simple minded gameplay gimmicks tacked onto the experience (Homing attack, Light dash, grinding, auto-run sections, etc).

Colors looks impressive though.

[UltimateTibu]

@chickenfetusnarr Actually, there's a lot of people who's enjoyed Sonic Adventure, Sonic Adventure 2, and Sonic Heroes.

[chickenfetusnarr]

@UltimateTibu There are also a lot of people who enjoy The Jonas Brothers, Twilight, and Justin Bieber. Not that I'm saying those 3 games are as bad as the 3 things I mentioned, I'm just pointing out that popularity =/= quality. I also enjoyed SA1, SA2, and to an extent, Heroes, but that doesn't mean that they weren't all full of terrible design flaws.

[TheEvilPuppy]

When are we going to be able to play this? Almost two years and counting

[eishikibahamut]

title screen is hot except for that blemish between his hand and his mouth

[SpeedingHedgehog]

Hate to bum a decent project. But you'd think they'd have to show after so long.

[AlexFruen]

It would have been so cool if these guys could have rebuilt the hidden palace zone, including it's funky water slide

[SHADOW10101010]

They will.

[evilsoshi]

yay

[osakanone]

The shade of blue looks slightly off but this is something I can do on my own monitor.

All things considered: Just wow.

[Xaragon64DS]

The graphics look nice and smooth, Sonic looks like a combination of Soni 2 and 3's sprites (Sonic 2 body, Sonic 3 face). Gameplay wise, I hope these are just test levels, because I want to see the art in parralex format and longer scrolling levels.

[zyriuz2]

yeah i dont like the smileing mouth of HD sonic he should be pissed i mean dr robotnik is trying to take over the world.

[SonikkuForever]

Yeah, this is the earliest playable level we have, just to see if there's any programming bugs. The final program will play just like the original, but shinier.

[DunZero]

Chemical Plant Zone remake? Splendid!!

[RunawayPram]

Hi, I am 'Sonica' wo helpa make Sonic 2 hd, I have made the bridge. Making the end egg capsue aswell. (not shown).

There will be many surprises in store for S2HD!

[GlitcherPwnsAll]

could i join the team?

[Steph9827]

They said they are accepting anyone who wants to spread the word of S2HD,meaning tell people about it,not edit the game.

[GlitcherPwnsAll]

yeah but i want to edit the game not be some messenger...

[Steph9827]

I mean you get the hack they edited,and you are allowed to see it,brfore uploading the video.=-P

[GlitcherPwnsAll]

That doesn't change the fact i want to join the editing team...

[Steph9827]

Well,I think you can,or you can't.-__-'

[GlitcherPwnsAll]

exactly why i was asking sonica (-.-')

[darkx602]

I'm pretty sure anyone can join as long as they follow the guidelines. you have to first create an account on sonic retro. then you have to request validation in the validation forums. make sure you include everything it tells you to include.

[neooneeightytwo]

Great work. I have been following progress on this project for a very long time. Hope to see the final work soon!

[thegunner666]

Any progress being made? It's such a great idea, and definitely looks awesome if that's just the pre-alpha.

[hodgy100]

lots of progress is being made, it's just that it's taking forever to draw all of the art for the game :(

[DHAZEDXZ]

Take your time this game will wipe the newest Sonic games off the map for sure!

[zyriuz2]

i dont like that smile on sonics face i mean dr robotnik is trying to take over the world. sonic should be pissed ;( right?

[hodgy100]

original sonic was cheeky hence the grin

[glem3]

And he got that smile back in unleashed :)

[616spidey]

nahh he needs to look cool to kick dr robotnik's ass

[zyriuz2]

mabye.... but i think that should happen after he kicked his ass :)

[superjailwardenlover]

LAWL SONIC IS TINY!! XD

[SpeedingHedgehog]

So, when are we gonna se some actual gmaeplay?

[xxslaytanicxx]

so are they done with the lvls or are they still doing test runs on this game???

[LegendaryPlaystation]

dunno, i thinnk they are far from done.

[darkx602]

(reply to xxslaytanicxx)

like what LegendaryPlaystation said, they aren't even done with all the level mockups. art takes time. if they were to rush, a lot of things would stand out too much or look out of place.

they are also still working on the items, badniks, music, and characters.

[diashi120]

God to many people are to impatient. (Talking to you not about you)

[haxor345]

@diashi20 im not impatiant theres always sonic 2 in blue ray on sonics ultimate gens collection

[diashi120]

Was i talking about you?

I was talking about the person the other replied to.

[haxor345]

Oh im sorry oh great diashi i didnt kiss ur ass 1st even though i was just makin a comment! wtf man calm down a little

[gosteer]

whys is the camera so far away? i dont reli understand what the point of this is can someone explain thanks.

[LegendaryPlaystation]

watch the whole video

[MJJKingdom]

so cool

[guest2424]

Looks great, I want to play it when they finish a level. Only problem is as I expected in any early unreleased version, which is very low frame rates. High frame rate is essential for sonic games of course. Very excited to test the first level the day it is released, which I assume will be free for PC, but who knows.

[Salchichonide]

I wonder if Sonic 2 HD will have Hidden Palace Zone as a secret level.

[NTxC]

@Salchichonide Oh man, Hidden Palace in S2HD would own!!

[samlad2K9]

This will be amazing i can't wait But I would have prefferred s3&k HD

[PerfectChaos1212]

yeah, same here, i;d like to see all the old games redone in HD, and maybe redesign super knuckles running sprite so he hovers like super sonic and super tails(and give them all green eyes like super sonic), make super tails accessible with the chaos emeralds and hyper tails will have the birds like originally intended back in the beta, include the insta shield, and peel out in all the games and knuckles and tails aswell

[roguetrip99]

It won't let me post on the Sonic Retro board, so I'll express my idea here.  I think Sonic 2 HD should have cutscenes between levels like Sonic 3 and Knuckles does.

[Zeronightshade14]

you have to request validation in the forums

[weastlak]

Yeah this actually was brought up in the forums. The only problem is Leves like Chemical Plant seem to be out of place while if you notice in Emerald Hill you see the mountain ranges of Hill Top Zone. So if this is the case they may need to change the order of how levels are played.

[roguetrip99]

It would also be hard between Mystic Cave and Oil Ocean. But Hill Top - Mystic Cave would be an easy cutscene - have Sonic go around a loop and dig into the ground.

[weastlak]

True. But who knows where Mystic Cave goes toward.. Maybe it's right under Oil Ocean and there is some sort of oil derrick that gushes sonic up through the rocks? I just think Green grass level City, Green Grass, then Casino is kind of be far fetched.

[roguetrip99]

Then again, glacier to launch pad and pyramid to volcano were far fetched cutscenes too

[coachwiley2003]

Well, in Sonic 3 they did it between Marble Garden and Carnival Night Zone, which is kind of like Aquatic Ruin and Casino Night in Sonic 2...

but yeah, it would be hard between Emerald Hill and Chemical Plant Zone...

[weastlak]

Yeah it just seems more of an issue because of the backgrounds of say Emerald Hill, and Hill Top Zone, (Where the mountains are closer in on Hill Top Zone). They could change the order of the levels, but people would be angry probably and... I think Chemical Plant is second because it's difficulty is probably less than hill top zone.

[PerfectChaos1212]

emerald hill zone could be on the wat to the city in which the chemical plant is, the chemical plant was dumping into the aquatic ruins...which rest in the same valley as emerald hill zone(over the valley) is the city which also is home to the casino, which is near some mountains, which lead to a cave, under an oil refinery which is hooked up to eggman's base

[Losco1986]

Too many trumpet in the Music!

Sonic needs guitars

[Rmg12]

no it needs to be old-school 16 bit music ike what it was, but this is a HD version so its remixed with the equivalent instruments

[weastlak]

check out metropolis zone in HD for those guitars.

[deiuos]

Physics look waaay too floaty.

[Pokizard]

The spindash noise kinda hurts my teeth, but they always have in the original Sonic games. This is amazing!

[videogamer810]

Disclaimer

"Sonic 2 HD" is in no way affiliated with Sega® or Sonic Team™. The copyrights of "Sonic the Hedgehog" and all associated characters, names, terms, art, and music thereof belong to Sega®. All registered trademarks and copyrights belong to Sega® and Sonic Team™. "Sonic 2 HD" is a non-profit endeavour created by fans. No financial gain whatsoever is made from project efforts. No intent to infringe said copyrights or registered trademarks is made by contributors of "Sonic 2 HD".

[synchronizerman]

I don't know why but the physics seem so off to me.

[hodgy100]

It'could be the guys computer lagging. as the physics are an exact port from sonic 3. they chose sonic 3 because then the engine could be used to make other sonic games if they wanted to as the sonic 2 and 1 physics doesnt support gravity switching.

[JokinJoe]

hey hodgy! wow, what a coincidence, I find you on Youtube. I'm TheJollyRajah from LittleBigPlanet. anyways, if they use sonic 3's physics, im worried that the game might play a lot differently

[hodgy100]

Nha it wonty play alot differently liek i said the only difference is that the S3 physics supports anti gravity, this wont be used in S2HD though :)

Small world :D

[rikhanz]

you do have a point... to be honested..., I think from a psychological standpoint, there an uncanny effect on the physics and HD. I think they should add more frames on Sonic or the physic department should go turbo on the the physics... one of the two.

also this is only the pre-alpha... they're still working on it.

[rikhanz]

also I think you should wait for the 4X side scrolling version.

[grubby05]

this project is so promising, i really cant wait for the full release.

The second version of the demo seems to run slow and laggy on my computer as the 1st release runs perfect.

Dan