I am enjoying this a million times more then the Jeremy Brett version. I know people liked him, but he bothered me. He was such a hammy actor. This is smarter and more subtle.
Canadians in the 1880s did not speak like Sir Henry in this version; they spoke in dialects just slightly removed from Britain and Ireland (and would for several more decades). In this version, Sir Henry sounds more like a modern-day US American.
A poor illustration of Holmes and even worse Watson... Holmes is a character of great energy when his mind is occupied by a case and he is very still when his mind is absent of challange. Hence the drug usage due to boredom. This more made to look like a horror flick than a sherlock holmes one. 1/10 from me. Bad effort bad effort indeed.
@neily2506 It has to be mentioned, though, that drug addiction had not the same connotations in those days than it has today. The social stigmatisation of drug addiction did only slowly begin to develop in the second half of the 19th century. The dangers of opiates (like heroin) were only slowly recognised. Heroin, which came up late in the 19th century, was initially used as a panacea against all sorts of ailments and was even used to ease the pain of withdrawl from other opiates like morphium
the message that sir henry baskerville received and was pasted on a sheet of paper...should it be the word MOOR is in cursive form while the others were cut from the sheets of the TIMES newspaper???!!
@07sunako In the actual novel, it was said that the word MOOR was an uncommon word and wasn't found in the times paper, therefore, the author of the letter had to write it.
0:20 Oh Adzo you turnip.. If he had been running, the stride would be much longer. He was plainly prancing, Like a Monty Python sketch. It's, elementary.
This and "The Silk Stockings" were done by the same people and they are both awful. There's no sense of fun. They're morbid & mordant takes on Holmes. Guy Ritchie, Steven Moffet & Mike Gatiss did better, infinitely better, IMO.
I have to say I don't really like it. Though well produced it lacks the great chemisty between Holmes and Watson. I rather prefer Jeremy Brett/David Burke.
I mean Jeremy Brett was just HOT!!!
I also think RDJ was a better Holmes than this one. Roxburgh is so rough with Watson...not at all like they are friends!
@Centuria13 I KNOW! That part drives me crazy. Plus they put it in randomly; it has not significance in the storyline. It's like the writers were like, "Let's play up his drug addiction!" "Why?" "No reason! Let's just do it!"
Gives non-Sherlockians a twisted view of Holmes. tsk tsk tsk
Not necessarily. Particularly in cases where it appears people are believing in ghosts and ghouls, Holmes can become quite rude. In fact, in many stories, Watson comments about his less than savoury behavior towards clients. Many of his comments can be taken as exceedingly underhanded and uncalled for.
Cannot stand this cocaine injection show off ! Why did the movie makers need it ? To show this blond Holmes as a tough guy? Cocaine was not in that book. But the rest of the movie exellent.
Holmes took cocaine to stimulate his mind. He was a genius. To quote Dryden, Great Wits to madness are near allied and thin partitions do their bounds divide.
During the time that HotB took place, Holmes did subject himself to the use of cocaine at certain times. Though Conan Doyle didn't explicitely state that Holmes used it during the novel, keep in mind that Watson was absent from Holmes' company for some length of time, and if Holmes' injections did not relate to the current case, there would be very little need to mention it at all to the reader
Excellent casting and plunging atmosphere. and Holmes is young, good-looking and attractive. The only minus from my point of view is this cocaine taking, Sherlock is one of the heroes of my childhood and I'm not happy they showed drugs here. As some people already said, it was described not in this book, but in "Sign of Four".
Cocaine. As usual, the movies screw up Holmes's drug-use entirely. He used cocaine ONLY when he didn't have a case to occupy his time. He wasn't a drug-addict and he never took cocaine when he had a case.
Dr. Mortimer is John Nettles, who playing DCI Tom Barnaby in "Midsomer Murders" (1997) and "Bergerac" (1981). I like him very much. Thank you for video!
The movie still looking good. But I miss the humor and the friendship between Holmes and Watson (That is in Brett version)... Something lacking with this Watson... The Watson here seems so green, more like a role of being an assistance detective but lacking as a friend relationship with Holmes.
Well, in December they're going to do Sherlock as a mook. There was something to say about the different eras of history - the puritanism of the victorian era... our era will be known as the era of the dumb guy. Almost every venture of our era is in service to the dumb guy. 97% of television is designed to appeal to people in the 80 IQ range, and movies are getting more so. Our children will be so grateful...
I have seen a little. Atmosphere has got a nice edge to it, and the guy playing Holmes is a good enough actor...he just misses the essence and high wire mental intensity that to me embody Holmes' character. Jeremy Brett had it on TV, Clive Merrison and Carlton Hobbs on the radio. Still, I will try to keep an open mind here, and enjoy the great story.
EXCELLENT MOVIE! 5-Stars and a cast of A+ Actors. The atmosphere is the best I have ever seen in a Sherlock Holmes movie. And this version creates a very unique portrayal of Holmes and Watson. A bit younger, and more more vibrant. I wish this particular producer and cast, would do another Sherlock Holmes, in the future?...
OMG, i didn't even realize that was Holmes at first! He's...he's...he's blond!! WTF? That's like the first requirement of a Holmes actor.
The pace of the movie is good, but i can't say i like the Holmes. It's not just the hair either. I think he fails to grasp the dark, but passionate nature of Holmes, a bohemian man who doesn't abide by society's rules.
Well, he did in "The Sign of Four", but only because he was bored and had no work. Watson also caught him in an opium den once, but that was an entirely different matter and, in any case, he was sleuthing, not doing opium.
I think it's kind of dumb that they put the cocaine in here. They did it just to make him more gritty, not because it fits with his character. In the books, Holmes only used cocaine when he was bored because he didn't have a case to keep him busy. They have him using it when he would need it the least.
I'm actually surprised that this version happens to show Holmes explicitly using cocaine. None of the versions I have seen have shown it. I'm somewhat pleased, but also dismayed. I never did like Holmes' drug use.
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Yes, in The Sigh of Four, Watson sees Holmes giving himself his thrice-daily shot and asks him if he's using cocaine or morphine on this occasion..... But Holmes' s drug use is only mentioned in one or two of the early stories and we hear little about it in the later tales. It suggests that Doyle became a bit embarassed about introducing this eccentricity of Holmes and decided to drop it when the stories started to become popular.
@GrigolConservative Of course! Others are simply players, Brett is a reincarnation! Although, I think Roxburgh is a very good Holmes, faithful but not trite. Better than Frewer, Livanov (and, for me, better than Rathbone, but I admit, I don't love Basil). not good as Cushing and, obviously, Brett!
@LordoftheTrapdoors The best Holmes for me isn't Brett, he is 2nd. The best and most faithful to the novels IMO is the russian actor Vasily Livanov. For me he captures the arrogance and humour of Holmes. Where at times I thought Brett missed the humour.
@xxRainbow1978xx Livanov is great (and his scripts are better than Granada scripts). But I think Brett immedesimation is more deep. In my opinion Brett and Cushing are the best. Roxburgh is potentially very good (but one performance only is too little). Honestly I don't like very much Rathbone (and I don't understand why He is so regarded) and absolutly don't like Frewer.
@LordoftheTrapdoors I recently reread the Holmes books and immediately rewatched both Brett's and the russian versions. And I did notice that Livanov inhabited all of Holmes personality as it was in the book better tha Brett. Brett got Holmes sense of humour wrong at times, and I felt that was missing. Cushing is 3rd for me. But in true faithfullness to the how Conan wrote Holmes, Livanov inhabits the character best IMO.
@xxRainbow1978xx: I agree with Lordofthe Trapdoors. Brett's portait is more complex and Livanov is way too rough sometimes and curses too much (fault of the script in case of the latter). He's also too funny. The humour in the stories is very subtile and so it is in the Granada version.
I also agree about Rathbone. I really dislike his Holmes but I guess mostly Americans like him because they saw the movies as children.
@Trampadoo I disagree but I guess each to their own. For me it's Brett who is too rough at times, his manic laugh is not Holmes at all. Livanov is not too funny IMO, Holmes in the books regularly found things amusing.
I think that this is the only version that Holmes takes heroin, if fact heroin didn't really exist back then. It was known as Opium and Holmes actually disapproved of it's use.
another great inaccuracy of this version- in the novel dr. mortimer is described as a Thin, Tall man,not yet thirty years old. hardly the elderly doctor we see here.
Yes. Hound of the baskervilles was the first Homes book I read and it remains my favorite to this day. Still even thou it is not as true to book as it could be, its still one hell of a show.
Holmes and Watson were actually both supposed to be quite young in the books. They always tend to be aged up for the movies, so I would say Watson is really about right.
only in the early stories, like study in scarlet, where it ws clear they were in their mid to late twenties. but the stories span several decades and they spend much of the series as middle aged men.
i always pictured watson as an older gentelmen with some grey hair here or there this is very new to me. i love to read these books and am really happy to find a movie on one of my favorites.
Yeah hes barnaby in midsomer murders. it was probably because he was so good in that they concidered him for this film. ANd in my opinion they couldnt have chosen a better person
You've probably seen him as Barnaby in Midsumer Murders :)
As for Holmes and Watson - I'm usually a fan of Ian Hart and I think he's an ok, if not great, Watson (my favourite is Vitali Solomin, closely followed by Burke and Hardwicke)
Sadly, I can't watch Richard Roxburgh nowadays without remembering his terrible performance as Dracula in Van Helsing... :(
Having grown up watching the Basil Rathbone Holmes movies, it is strange to see him shooting up. Nevertheless it is a good version. Thanks for posting. I will have to finally read the books.
not that i know of, no. but i'll be honest--if it wasn't for richard roxburgh injecting himself with cocaine in this movie, i wouldn't even know who sherlock holmes is today.
hm, that's strange. if you can't get it, i'll send it to you through GT or another online file sharing thing i use. the beginning to this is priceless ;D
the sexiest sherlock i've ever seen!
LadyPurpleInTheFog 1 week ago
dont watch this
44saikiran 4 weeks ago
great movie. I remember it from a few years ago.
creativeprojects720 1 month ago
I am enjoying this a million times more then the Jeremy Brett version. I know people liked him, but he bothered me. He was such a hammy actor. This is smarter and more subtle.
lollipopfop 5 months ago
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lollipopfop 5 months ago
Is it wrong that I love Watson's "oh-god,-not-again!" face? XD
HobbitBabe 5 months ago 2
I don't find any english accent in Richard Roxburgh's Holmes.
Francesko263 6 months ago
I'm confused: why is DCI Barnaby undercover?
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@BabyyaaAnabelia767 Anyone that writes like you in code will probably be lonely. heh.
lollipopfop 5 months ago
to my mind, this is weak performance. roxburgh is hot, though...
linnjulia 9 months ago
Canadians in the 1880s did not speak like Sir Henry in this version; they spoke in dialects just slightly removed from Britain and Ireland (and would for several more decades). In this version, Sir Henry sounds more like a modern-day US American.
jannyrcobs 9 months ago
@jannyrcobs How do you know? Were you there? Its just conjecture.
lollipopfop 5 months ago
I didn't know holmes was a druggy!
MDkid1 9 months ago
@MDkid1 Its just a vitamin shot...LOL.
lollipopfop 5 months ago
@lollipopfop is that what they're calling it these days? lol
MDkid1 5 months ago
Sherlock junkie!
rivlukcoltd 9 months ago
A poor illustration of Holmes and even worse Watson... Holmes is a character of great energy when his mind is occupied by a case and he is very still when his mind is absent of challange. Hence the drug usage due to boredom. This more made to look like a horror flick than a sherlock holmes one. 1/10 from me. Bad effort bad effort indeed.
asanandic 10 months ago
Professor Quirrell went through a time warp and grew a mustache. Sorry, somebody had to bring it up.
DuchessAliana 11 months ago 6
I have to ask. I think that some where in the books there stood that Sherlock Holmes never took artificial stimulans when he had a case?
jbshlover 1 year ago
@jbshlover in the hound of the baskervilles it clearly states he takes opium
LauraaLovesify 1 month ago
@LauraaLovesify True. But he mostly took cocaine. But I don't think either one was illegal at the time.
lollipopfop 1 month ago
tnx for the upload ...mucho appreciated
lens2optic 1 year ago
@neily2506 It has to be mentioned, though, that drug addiction had not the same connotations in those days than it has today. The social stigmatisation of drug addiction did only slowly begin to develop in the second half of the 19th century. The dangers of opiates (like heroin) were only slowly recognised. Heroin, which came up late in the 19th century, was initially used as a panacea against all sorts of ailments and was even used to ease the pain of withdrawl from other opiates like morphium
corelli221 1 year ago
@neily2506 Yes.
corelli221 1 year ago
i just want to ask something...
the message that sir henry baskerville received and was pasted on a sheet of paper...should it be the word MOOR is in cursive form while the others were cut from the sheets of the TIMES newspaper???!!
JUSt curious. please answer.
07sunako 1 year ago
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TheRealDeal1515 1 year ago
@07sunako In the actual novel, it was said that the word MOOR was an uncommon word and wasn't found in the times paper, therefore, the author of the letter had to write it.
sethbooker 1 year ago
holmes you damn junkie
StuartWFilms 1 year ago
0:20 Oh Adzo you turnip.. If he had been running, the stride would be much longer. He was plainly prancing, Like a Monty Python sketch. It's, elementary.
ericberner 1 year ago
Well, Ian Hart sure ain't no Edward Hardwicke. >.<
speedbmp 1 year ago
Booooooooriiiiing
Babylonboy55 1 year ago
£5000 and 1 million pounds im those days must be worth 100 times more in todays money.....flippin 'eck.
Isthisthelongestname 1 year ago
Dr Mortimer was younger in the book
42lifeis 1 year ago
what is sherlock taking??
dragonsmoyer 1 year ago
That's Cocaine he's shooting up with, a 07% solution for those who don't know.
TheManiacalSatanist6 1 year ago
@TheManiacalSatanist6 I think it's opium
Stravinsky91 1 year ago
What did Holmes Inject himself with ?
SorryNoFatChicks 1 year ago
The way Ian Hart runs is priceless! :)
Electrocity99 1 year ago
@Electrocity99
Haha it is, i noticed that awell :D
Isthisthelongestname 1 year ago
hahaha dci tom barnaby in sherlock holmes
friendofthejawas 1 year ago
Henry Baskerville needs some acting lessons!
irishoorah 1 year ago
This and "The Silk Stockings" were done by the same people and they are both awful. There's no sense of fun. They're morbid & mordant takes on Holmes. Guy Ritchie, Steven Moffet & Mike Gatiss did better, infinitely better, IMO.
amaxamon 1 year ago
Why do they say pounds insted of dollars?
TylerTheHedghog 1 year ago
Did Holmes just got high at 2:40ish???? how come they didnt show this in the book?
bongbongedyomama 1 year ago
its good but its not as funny as it used to be
demialltheway1 1 year ago
OMG hes sexy. robert downy jr is better but he is close 2nd he is hot wish he werent married
safigirl001 1 year ago
I have to say I don't really like it. Though well produced it lacks the great chemisty between Holmes and Watson. I rather prefer Jeremy Brett/David Burke.
I mean Jeremy Brett was just HOT!!!
I also think RDJ was a better Holmes than this one. Roxburgh is so rough with Watson...not at all like they are friends!
Dratini999 1 year ago
what the? in the story he doesnt use heroin.
FATAL12SKILLZ 1 year ago
@FATAL12SKILLZ In some of the others he uses drugs. (usually cocaine or opium)
Cloudminty 1 year ago
@Cloudminty yeah i read up on it
FATAL12SKILLZ 1 year ago
are they using an english accent?
ransamadeshita23 1 year ago
Cocaine, I hate it when he uses that!
avatarspirit57 1 year ago
Wow, they really did change ALOT from the original story.
angelmarine1292 1 year ago
I like Roxburgh as Holmes, Hart is decent, but no one compares to Downey and Law in my opinion.
KharmaKhoma 1 year ago
@KharmaKhoma I totally agree. ^^ They did an excellent job on that one. :D
Cloudminty 1 year ago
I didn't know Sherlock did Heroine..... Weird. Then again..... I know nothing about Sherlock Holmes...
BeeVan19 1 year ago
HOLD ON! Holmes NEVER took cocaine/morphine when on a case! He took it because he was bored!
Centuria13 1 year ago 32
@Centuria13 So right! That kind of detail about his character is really important, too.
silvibug 1 year ago
@Centuria13 I KNOW! That part drives me crazy. Plus they put it in randomly; it has not significance in the storyline. It's like the writers were like, "Let's play up his drug addiction!" "Why?" "No reason! Let's just do it!"
Gives non-Sherlockians a twisted view of Holmes. tsk tsk tsk
mikeysrose 8 months ago 2
@Centuria13 I said the same thing when I saw it!
TheEmporer 1 month ago
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lollipopfop 1 month ago
@Centuria13 Maybe this case was boring.
lollipopfop 1 month ago
who composes the music of the hound of the baskervilles?
maxialiste 1 year ago
Ironic Richard would in turn play Professor Moriarty.
rathraven1313 1 year ago
As M in the " The League"
ibtnm25 1 year ago
why is this Sherlock Holmes so commanding and rude? The one in the book also had an authoritative tone sometimes but in a polite way.
Emotionengne 2 years ago
Not necessarily. Particularly in cases where it appears people are believing in ghosts and ghouls, Holmes can become quite rude. In fact, in many stories, Watson comments about his less than savoury behavior towards clients. Many of his comments can be taken as exceedingly underhanded and uncalled for.
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bcbdrums 2 years ago
Cannot stand this cocaine injection show off ! Why did the movie makers need it ? To show this blond Holmes as a tough guy? Cocaine was not in that book. But the rest of the movie exellent.
RosaLavanda 2 years ago
it was in other books, but your right it is odd
Bloodiea 2 years ago 2
Holmes took cocaine to stimulate his mind. He was a genius. To quote Dryden, Great Wits to madness are near allied and thin partitions do their bounds divide.
habsmeister09 2 years ago
it's in the book "sign of four" he took it so that he could think more clearly about cases...
wendyqren 2 years ago 2
During the time that HotB took place, Holmes did subject himself to the use of cocaine at certain times. Though Conan Doyle didn't explicitely state that Holmes used it during the novel, keep in mind that Watson was absent from Holmes' company for some length of time, and if Holmes' injections did not relate to the current case, there would be very little need to mention it at all to the reader
WhenJacksAttack 1 year ago
no but Holmes takes cocaine in some of the stories and Watson says he considers the pciture of Holmes with a needle to be a bad sign.
Peadarisback 1 year ago
Excellent casting and plunging atmosphere. and Holmes is young, good-looking and attractive. The only minus from my point of view is this cocaine taking, Sherlock is one of the heroes of my childhood and I'm not happy they showed drugs here. As some people already said, it was described not in this book, but in "Sign of Four".
BelNatalya76 2 years ago
Why o why can't thay get his cock taking right as said before only when he didn't have any thing to occupy his brain/mind
;~)
HELLO2YOU3 2 years ago
Is that heroin he's taking at around 2.51?
RupertWaldron 2 years ago
Cocaine. As usual, the movies screw up Holmes's drug-use entirely. He used cocaine ONLY when he didn't have a case to occupy his time. He wasn't a drug-addict and he never took cocaine when he had a case.
Shangas 2 years ago 4
Why does Roxborough put on that ultra-clipped, affected accent? It's really weird.
apgeegpa 2 years ago
Dr. Mortimer is John Nettles, who playing DCI Tom Barnaby in "Midsomer Murders" (1997) and "Bergerac" (1981). I like him very much. Thank you for video!
matanat63 2 years ago
The movie still looking good. But I miss the humor and the friendship between Holmes and Watson (That is in Brett version)... Something lacking with this Watson... The Watson here seems so green, more like a role of being an assistance detective but lacking as a friend relationship with Holmes.
ahantu 2 years ago 28
I agree, I hated the bumbling idiot Watsons, or the cold distant ones like this. Brett had it perfect. <3
elangelRefti 2 years ago
@ahantu I agree. I'm glad this version never took off. Sherlock is great so far! The BBC Radio plays from the 80's/90's also great.
amaxamon 1 year ago
hot
JethroQ 2 years ago
Well, in December they're going to do Sherlock as a mook. There was something to say about the different eras of history - the puritanism of the victorian era... our era will be known as the era of the dumb guy. Almost every venture of our era is in service to the dumb guy. 97% of television is designed to appeal to people in the 80 IQ range, and movies are getting more so. Our children will be so grateful...
99rhetbaboons 2 years ago 3
I have seen a little. Atmosphere has got a nice edge to it, and the guy playing Holmes is a good enough actor...he just misses the essence and high wire mental intensity that to me embody Holmes' character. Jeremy Brett had it on TV, Clive Merrison and Carlton Hobbs on the radio. Still, I will try to keep an open mind here, and enjoy the great story.
christopherecatalano 2 years ago
EXCELLENT MOVIE! 5-Stars and a cast of A+ Actors. The atmosphere is the best I have ever seen in a Sherlock Holmes movie. And this version creates a very unique portrayal of Holmes and Watson. A bit younger, and more more vibrant. I wish this particular producer and cast, would do another Sherlock Holmes, in the future?...
robertquentincobb 2 years ago 2
nicely said.
BelNatalya76 2 years ago
OMG, i didn't even realize that was Holmes at first! He's...he's...he's blond!! WTF? That's like the first requirement of a Holmes actor.
The pace of the movie is good, but i can't say i like the Holmes. It's not just the hair either. I think he fails to grasp the dark, but passionate nature of Holmes, a bohemian man who doesn't abide by society's rules.
Theta101 2 years ago 3
Agree with you.
ahantu 2 years ago
...is that a real american actor? I'm not quite sure.
Theta101 2 years ago
One can be silent and emote a bit just to alert the audience there is a beating heart somewhere.
skylur44 2 years ago
this film has real speed to it!
yrti0121 2 years ago
Sir Henry is rather more acerbic than necessary, quite contrary to the original and detracts from the character and loses sympathy for him.
skylur44 2 years ago
ohh i like Sherlock Holmes he plays violin, smokes in the pipe
cciittrraa 2 years ago
Never did cocaine in the book....
3daysgracelover1x 2 years ago
Well, he did in "The Sign of Four", but only because he was bored and had no work. Watson also caught him in an opium den once, but that was an entirely different matter and, in any case, he was sleuthing, not doing opium.
shutterflie 2 years ago
I think it's kind of dumb that they put the cocaine in here. They did it just to make him more gritty, not because it fits with his character. In the books, Holmes only used cocaine when he was bored because he didn't have a case to keep him busy. They have him using it when he would need it the least.
PatsyBoyPro 2 years ago 5
I'm actually surprised that this version happens to show Holmes explicitly using cocaine. None of the versions I have seen have shown it. I'm somewhat pleased, but also dismayed. I never did like Holmes' drug use.
JadeLondonStudios 2 years ago
wow....Sherlock Holmes the drug addict? 0__0 they don't show that side of him very often in the Hollywood image of him...
animationeer 2 years ago
I read the book many many years ago !
jaruanne 2 years ago
yum, i have this on dvd, it started my love affair with doyle's holmes. 5 stars!
mis5pencil 2 years ago
He makes a damn sexy Holmes, that's for sure. :]
xMrsxDarcyx 2 years ago 16
@xMrsxDarcyx though admittedly, not as sexy as Robert Downey Jr.
Centuria13 1 year ago 3
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sidewaysgaze 2 years ago
Richard has the best voice.
GreeboScarr 2 years ago
Thanks for this. I caught it on PBS back in 2004 and wanted to tape it. Gorgeous period work, you really feel you're in Edwardian England.
putman9 2 years ago
1 question. what was Holmes injecting into his body?
LRyuzaki100 3 years ago
Opium, I think.
MoPictures 3 years ago 2
Cocaine (I think a 7% solution) or Morphine, he was addicted to both
55wd11 3 years ago 5
I would think it's cocaine (it is a 7% solution, by the way). It's certainly not opium.
Also, he doesn't, in the books, hide his drug use from Watson. In fact, in "The Sign of Four", Watson explicitly describes Holmes's drug use.
shutterflie 2 years ago
and in the "Five Orange Pips", man should I ever have to explain myself if I were a junkie, I'd remind everyone that Holmes was an addict too...
55wd11 2 years ago
Yes, in The Sigh of Four, Watson sees Holmes giving himself his thrice-daily shot and asks him if he's using cocaine or morphine on this occasion..... But Holmes' s drug use is only mentioned in one or two of the early stories and we hear little about it in the later tales. It suggests that Doyle became a bit embarassed about introducing this eccentricity of Holmes and decided to drop it when the stories started to become popular.
DrZenith 2 years ago
That is true, he is more open about it in the earlier works.
I think Doyle didn't want such a popular character to pretty much condone the use of cocaine, even if it was still fairly acceptable and whatnot.
shutterflie 2 years ago
cocaine
bcbdrums 2 years ago
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Yazzarh 1 year ago
@bcbdrums I thought cocaine was only in powder form...
TylerTheHedghog 1 year ago
@LRyuzaki100 our teacher said thatr it could be opium and thats why he looked like he'd got high
safigirl001 1 year ago
Jeremy Brett - the only Holmes!
GrigolConservative 3 years ago 10
lol, you're not alone
bcbdrums 3 years ago
@bcbdrums definately not alone
Electrocity99 1 year ago
@GrigolConservative Of course! Others are simply players, Brett is a reincarnation! Although, I think Roxburgh is a very good Holmes, faithful but not trite. Better than Frewer, Livanov (and, for me, better than Rathbone, but I admit, I don't love Basil). not good as Cushing and, obviously, Brett!
LordoftheTrapdoors 1 year ago
@LordoftheTrapdoors The best Holmes for me isn't Brett, he is 2nd. The best and most faithful to the novels IMO is the russian actor Vasily Livanov. For me he captures the arrogance and humour of Holmes. Where at times I thought Brett missed the humour.
xxRainbow1978xx 1 year ago
@xxRainbow1978xx Livanov is great (and his scripts are better than Granada scripts). But I think Brett immedesimation is more deep. In my opinion Brett and Cushing are the best. Roxburgh is potentially very good (but one performance only is too little). Honestly I don't like very much Rathbone (and I don't understand why He is so regarded) and absolutly don't like Frewer.
LordoftheTrapdoors 1 year ago
@LordoftheTrapdoors I recently reread the Holmes books and immediately rewatched both Brett's and the russian versions. And I did notice that Livanov inhabited all of Holmes personality as it was in the book better tha Brett. Brett got Holmes sense of humour wrong at times, and I felt that was missing. Cushing is 3rd for me. But in true faithfullness to the how Conan wrote Holmes, Livanov inhabits the character best IMO.
xxRainbow1978xx 1 year ago
@xxRainbow1978xx: I agree with Lordofthe Trapdoors. Brett's portait is more complex and Livanov is way too rough sometimes and curses too much (fault of the script in case of the latter). He's also too funny. The humour in the stories is very subtile and so it is in the Granada version.
I also agree about Rathbone. I really dislike his Holmes but I guess mostly Americans like him because they saw the movies as children.
Trampadoo 1 year ago
@Trampadoo I disagree but I guess each to their own. For me it's Brett who is too rough at times, his manic laugh is not Holmes at all. Livanov is not too funny IMO, Holmes in the books regularly found things amusing.
xxRainbow1978xx 1 year ago
@LordoftheTrapdoors I will say IMO the worst Holmes was Christopher Plummer, he has Holmes mostly wrong.
xxRainbow1978xx 1 year ago
Jeremy Brett is much better. Althought Roxburgh isn't bad :)
Salaminafe 3 years ago
OH MY GOD!!! Holmes was a Heroin addict?!!! I thought he just took cocaine!
fobrlz007 3 years ago
I thought so too.
gothicblackrose 3 years ago
I think that this is the only version that Holmes takes heroin, if fact heroin didn't really exist back then. It was known as Opium and Holmes actually disapproved of it's use.
He only took Cocaine and Morphine.
FunkyKitty 3 years ago
The more I watch this the more I'm sure that he was taking morphine and not heroin. It's taken the same way and can look similar.
FunkyKitty 3 years ago
in the books, it says he injected cocaine, just like he does here.
bcbdrums 3 years ago
Dr. Mortimer is uncanonical (unfortunately), but Holmes & expeciially Watson are very good, so lovely!
vladimirlensky 3 years ago
another great inaccuracy of this version- in the novel dr. mortimer is described as a Thin, Tall man,not yet thirty years old. hardly the elderly doctor we see here.
wadyano 3 years ago
yes, unfortunately this adaptation strayed quite far from canon. but it was my first holmes experience, so i like it :)
bcbdrums 3 years ago
Yes. Hound of the baskervilles was the first Homes book I read and it remains my favorite to this day. Still even thou it is not as true to book as it could be, its still one hell of a show.
Duhad8 3 years ago 2
this holmes and watson do not have good chemistry together. it's hard to imagine them as intimate brotherly friends.
wadyano 3 years ago 3
i dnt think this guy plays watson too well. he seems a bit aragent, and in the books i always pictured him as quite polite and respectful of holmes
will12121 3 years ago
he seems to young too
wadyano 3 years ago
Holmes and Watson were actually both supposed to be quite young in the books. They always tend to be aged up for the movies, so I would say Watson is really about right.
0ShadowedWings0 2 years ago 2
only in the early stories, like study in scarlet, where it ws clear they were in their mid to late twenties. but the stories span several decades and they spend much of the series as middle aged men.
wadyano 2 years ago
To wadyano
Yeah Holmes was supposed to have begun sharing lodgings with Watson in 1881 when he was 26 years old, he retired in 1903 at the age of 48.
cha5 2 years ago
I Agree with you actually. :)
LRyuzaki100 3 years ago
i always pictured watson as an older gentelmen with some grey hair here or there this is very new to me. i love to read these books and am really happy to find a movie on one of my favorites.
theblackwolfamora 3 years ago
i'm glad you like it :)
bcbdrums 3 years ago
richard roxburg is a very handsome man.
Gabriellaellajohns 3 years ago 4
Yeah hes barnaby in midsomer murders. it was probably because he was so good in that they concidered him for this film. ANd in my opinion they couldnt have chosen a better person
KageShinobiWarrior 3 years ago 2
john nettles. i've seen him somewhere too...but i don't remember where ^^;
bcbdrums 3 years ago
You've probably seen him as Barnaby in Midsumer Murders :)
As for Holmes and Watson - I'm usually a fan of Ian Hart and I think he's an ok, if not great, Watson (my favourite is Vitali Solomin, closely followed by Burke and Hardwicke)
Sadly, I can't watch Richard Roxburgh nowadays without remembering his terrible performance as Dracula in Van Helsing... :(
halfdwarf 3 years ago
hahaha...richard roxburg as dracula. his accent in van helsing wasn't bad but his acting was a bit too much, i guess.
Gabriellaellajohns 3 years ago
probably because he played the eastern european :)
BelNatalya76 2 years ago
midsommer murders
dandavid1 3 years ago
Having grown up watching the Basil Rathbone Holmes movies, it is strange to see him shooting up. Nevertheless it is a good version. Thanks for posting. I will have to finally read the books.
raceygofast 3 years ago
oh but in the books he uses drugs. it's not something made up, unfortunately...
i like basil rathbone too :-)
bcbdrums 3 years ago
I miss Jeremy Brett so much, What a Great Loss!
peymaania 3 years ago 3
the unic and the perfect S. Holmes, i agree your opinion!!!!!
castoro83 3 years ago
Jeremy Brett is my favorite Holmes too.
shekhar 3 years ago
no one can touch him. others have acted well but no one gets into holm's skin and psyche as brett did.
wadyano 3 years ago
roxburough plays moriarty in Leuage of Extroidinary gentilmen.
hes a bit of a gruff holmes i think.
deadman00 3 years ago
rather cold, i agree.
bcbdrums 3 years ago
same with me
theblackwolfamora 3 years ago
also holmes doesn't do drugd in the novel
vikramkrishnan 3 years ago
not that i know of, no. but i'll be honest--if it wasn't for richard roxburgh injecting himself with cocaine in this movie, i wouldn't even know who sherlock holmes is today.
bcbdrums 3 years ago
isn't the doctor significantly younger in the canon...
vikramkrishnan 3 years ago 2
yeah...i know. their silly casting... but it worked for this adaptation.
bcbdrums 3 years ago
Mm, won't let me open Part 1 so I skipped to Part 2. Boy, Sir Henry looks so young, doesn't he? I'm very excited about this, though!!!
KCSRL2008 3 years ago
hm, that's strange. if you can't get it, i'll send it to you through GT or another online file sharing thing i use. the beginning to this is priceless ;D
bcbdrums 3 years ago