Big HHO Generator test with new liner

[bikr1975]

isnt there an issue that no one talks about? what about normal driving?? as the car hits bumps, the water inside will start splashing around then get sucked up by the outlet hose to the bubbler then eventually, the bubbler overflows and water going into the engine cant be very good. have you had that problem yet or is it not a big deal??

[HHOhotrod]

I have been running mine on the 68 GMC for over a year. The trip I made to the Kansas city truck nationals was the big test for me. The bubbler I have in my truck has a small splash guard in it that you can see in one of my vids about the bubbler. It has been working really good to keep splashes from going up to the vacuum line at the top. It isnt going to be 100%.

[HHOhotrod]

But I feel its safe enouph to run on my truck. I replaced a gasket under my carb a few months ago and looked into my intake. That aluminum shines like new inside there. Wish I could rip the head off it to see the pistons but I dont want to chance messing it up... But I can look at the plugs and they look very clean vs black before. I would like to put that truck on a smog tester and see what it does with the HHO on and off. Later Biker that was a good question.

[83Goldwinger]

If you can find some 316 stainless it will corrode less and not contaminate the electrolyte solution. You may not be able to find it in perforated, but is available in wire mesh. When you use mesh, you can use more of it, lower your input voltage & amperage and get mor HHO production.

[HHOhotrod]

I use 304L because I can get it easier. So far it has been working ok. But I havent been using it long on my truck so time will only tell how well it holds up. I think you can buy 316L Perf but the cost is more than I want to spend for it.

[Vistal1]

304 is good it just will leach iron out and it will take a few water changes mine took 7 changes before it cleared and stayed clear

[HHOhotrod]

Cool thanks for the info.

[mihai2k]

Hi guys,for about 4 months i'm watching all this hho videos,i know from 6th grade that H2 burns easy :) no doubt about this. Now with all this prices of gas in europe, i want to modify my car :) i own a Daewoo Matiz with 3 cylinders (780 cubic cm) and a consumption about 5L@100km or if i've made the conversion correct is about 47MPG. Before i start to build a production HHO not at toy :) i want to know how much HHO gas should i produce to feel some difference in Benzin gas consumption?

Thanks

[HHOhotrod]

From what I have read and seen most people say at least 1 liter a minute or more to notice a gain.

[Vistal1]

Did you reset your Computer? it will relearn how to read the gas and lean out . Try this first if not you mey need a efie system.

[Vistal1]

NEVER USE baking soda it produces a toxic gas and will clog the engine and plates. Use kaoh or naoh also use netural plates to produce less heat , amps=heat you want to be at 150F or less at 12v 30 amps max.

[HHOhotrod]

So far mine has been doing fine. I dont know about the toxic gas you are talking about. If you could tell me more about that I would love to read it. Thanks.

[Vistal1]

baking soda and salt are

not good catalysts. During electrolysis, they break down and combine with hydrogen and

oxygen and form toxic gases that can injure you as well as your engine. Chlorine gas is

one of those fun byproducts - very toxic. More sludge precipitates out of the solution. SSelectrodes can be completely dissolved in a matter of hours - destroying your cells.

Fortunately this problem can be avoided by simply using a catalyst that does just what it'ssupposed to do conduct electricity

[HHOhotrod]

I have been using Baking Soda and Distilled water only in my generator. From what I have read on the net you wont get Chlorine gas from Baking Soda. You will get Chlorine gas if you add Salt. Is this correct?

[Vistal1]

Also it does not become part of the whole process .You will have to keep adding more and more every time .I use 1/8 of a teaspoon on a refill of my cell to bring it up to 27amps when i add new distilled water.

[Vistal1]

ya the chlorine gas's from salt but carbon monoxide is from baking soda and these dont cling to the plate like Naoh or KOH . 100% lye drain cleaner is better it keeps the water clear and stick to the plates.

[HHOhotrod]

What happens to the lye? Does it turn into something bad like salt does?

[Vistal1]

N the lye sticks to the plates and becomes part of your booster so next time you refill it you use less and less till the water stays clear and you may use 1/4 of a cup of water a week and may not have to use any lye.You may add 1/4 teaspoon every 2 weeks to keep the amps up.

[HHOhotrod]

Thanks for the info we will try this out and see how it does.

[TURBOGTWS]

Could you please post the reasults of your unit test

Volts , Amps , Litres per minute.

Thanks

Keep up the good work

[HHOhotrod]

Im still waiting on my tools to come in the mail. When they get here im going to be doing alot more tests on it. A update on the Big HHO generator it went Chernobyl on me. We was seeing how hard we could push the cell and it got really hot and melted the PVC to the point of no return. We had to scrap the old PVC and got some new. The next generator will be cooled with a small radiator. I think that will help with the over heating problem. I will post a new vid when my new tools come in.

[BikerTrashWolf]

I am curious, how much water does this consume when it is running?

[HHOhotrod]

Dont know yet we are still in the baby stage of tests on this one. I will post more results when I get the proper tools to see what this generator is doing..

[BikerTrashWolf]

Ok, well I have beek kicking around the idea to build one of these just to play around with, Hook it up to my old trail truck just to see if it has any effect on MPG or power at all, and if it does well build a higher quality unit for my f150... I am highly skeptical about HHO on cars but I would be thrilled to be proven wrong.

[HHOhotrod]

Thats what I am doing is playing around with this.. Who knows you might be the one to get it to work.

[chipflinger]

remove the washers and the nut spacers and see if it makes any dif.

[HHOhotrod]

I tried that with the smaller allthread and it didnt work very good.. When I used the washers and nuts it worked fine.. I dont know why it does that might be the way the washers let the + charge into the water..

[chipflinger]

Your set up was duplicated with just a piece of stainless welding wire (.093), the "size" of the positive conductor is not important to the output of the negative.

[HHOhotrod]

Thanks for the info Ill try to play around with it more and see what happens..

[HHOhotrod]

Do you know if they have different grades of SS wire you can buy? I dont know much about the SS welding wire.

[chipflinger]

Your electrolysts comes from the neg lead not the positive. The washers are doing nothing for you. The bubbles form from the outside not the washers....

[HHOhotrod]

Hydrogen is produced off the (-)Negative side and Oxygen is produced off the (+)Positive side.

Oxygen forms on the edge of the washers when the (+)Positive is hooked up to it. It produce some on the surface area but more is formed on the washers edge. For some reason electricity seems to like coming out of the edge of metal better then the flat surface area.

[6029mjs]

I think the continuation of gas production is due to the fact that in reality, you have created an electrolytic capacitor. It takes a few seconds to fully charge and start producing a steady state gas flow. After disconnection, the capacitor (electrodes) discharges and continues to produce gas. I suspect the larger the surface area of the electrodes, the larger the charge and therefore the longer it will take to discharge i.e. the longer the gas will be produced after disconnection.

[Hydroginist]

Sorry been out of pocket.

Yes run it at your normal in service setup and for about an hour that will set the material, that is how the industry puts corrosion protection on some materials.

Good Luck

[HHOhotrod]

Cool thanks for the help..

[queennabber]

Interesting inside view of the cell. Thanks for sharing the video.

[Hydroginist]

Sorry I should have made myself a bit clearer you pickle the cell in the Lye then you will get better production from soda or just plain water. Good luck

[HHOhotrod]

Auh I got yeah... Do you run it or just let it set with the lye to pickle it?

[Hydroginist]

Try 316 SS Has Higher Chrome content which locks the Iron into the material will keep your solution from turning brown. Also just about 1/2 teaspoon of Drano to gal of water will make your cell really crank. Cells are different so you may need to go up or down on that. What I have found is if you pickle the cell components in a strong solution (outside in fresh air vapors can kill ya)you will also be running Hi amps this will condition your cell so lower concentration will work from then on

[HHOhotrod]

Thanks for the advice.. I want to keep the water non-toxic though..

[h2opower]

That's the way to go, keep it clean so we don't do harm to the earth as the oil companies are doing. I don't use any salts of anykind too.