Life under Calvins reign of terror in Geneva was no different than the life of a Jew in a German Concentration Camp.
Calvin had a man tortured for over a month for leaving him a note on his pulpit calling him a "hypocrite" then had him beheaded. Not only so, after kicking his wife & children out of their home, he had it set on fire & watched it burn down.
John Calvin the greatest teacher outside of the Bible? Show me a scholar who isn't Baptist or Presbyterian that claims that, then i may be inclined to take this seriously. You mentioned Luther, did you know that he and Calvin are in direct contention with this subject? He isn't Arminian either. John Calvin too often used human logic to explain God's actions, which led to double-predestination, etc. You should know that you can't explain anything about God, unless it is revealed in scripture.
A question for Calvinists: Demas in the bible was never saved in the first place? If not, how about Judas? He was never saved? How then did Judas heal the sick, perform miracles and cast out devils, when Jesus said Satan cannot cast out Satan
A Question Calvinist can't clearly directly answer, children that are beaten, some raped and even murdered, God preordained this before their birth is what a true Predestined Elected Calvinist believes, but will not admit it. examples are JonBenét Ramsey, Dennis Rader and John Wayne Gacy, Jr. who molested and killed 33 teenage boys. Since we live in the New Testament now, thus sins are not passed down through parents to children, what possible answer is valid from a Calvinist? None
I'm very impressed. I have one question: would any Calvinist admit he/she could possibility be not one of the elect? If no then how does one know he/she is an elect? I'm serious therefore welcome contact @ chaplain_frank@yahoo.com
It's interesting why you don't see all the so called Arminian preachers ridicule and put down the Calvinists but you see so many self proclaimed prideful elect Calvinists slam everyone who doesn't believe their way through their interpretation of the scriptures. The world doesn't need satan distracting them, it has Christians fighting amongst each other. What an example to my non Christian loved ones that I want to see saved. Election? Paul had a choice when he was knocked of his horse anyway
Actually, God predestined all of us before the foundation of the world was lay. We were all predestined to Heaven @ that time. But, after the Fall of Man, that changed. We are all predestined to Hell. Jesus Christ died for ALL.. and that reconciled us with God.. meaning the enmity between God and man as a result of Adams transgression, was reversed.. and Gods Gift of Grace was offered to the world. And "Whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but, have everlasting life."
(cont) We hear the Gospel and the Holy Spirit speaks to our heart.. and we either yield to the spirit or ignore it. When the HS deals with us, that is God attempting to draw us toward Him.. but, that is resistible.. most resist. Even in His Sovereignty, He gives us Free-Will to make informed choices. That seems an oxymoron to man.. but, mans thoughts and ways aren't Gods thoughts and ways. We must accept that fact.
Jesus did not die for just a few. He died for the entire human-race!
(cont) It is not God's Will that any should perish but, that all might be saved. Well, that tells us that Christ died for all... and that God gives us Free-Will to choose. Simply because, we know that not all people get saved, in spite of God's Will that none should perish. So, in mans free-will to choose.. unfortunately, man chooses most unwisely.. therefore, inherit eternal damnation.
Neither Arminianism or Calvinism are correct in their entirety. We should just get saved and read the Bible.
@jackmwolfe and your new boyfriend fractalfires or are you both the same person? I in no way shape or form am going to submit myself to your authority nor do i owe you any explanations. I repent of sinful things of my past but child molestation is not one of them and your allegations without proof are prepostourous! how come i never see you repent appologize or forgive anyone on here huh asshole?
My goodness......all I was looking for was some good helpful information. Why is it every time the subject of Calvinism/Arminianism comes up, folks start fighting?
@jackmwolfe Try Going to a Church For Once In Your Life. Confess Your sins To a pastor and Tell Them How Wrong they are,and How You'll 'Sing a Little song For Them". I am NOT a Child Molestor. And ANY pastor will tell You that It is a SERIOUS Defemation of Character To Imply That On someone That You don't even know!
@jackmwolfe you have alot of fucking nerve on christmas day to be speaking the way that you do to someone that has different religious beliefs other than your own. I would gladly in a heartbeat go to court and jail over knocking your ass flat on your feet multiple times. There is not a hint of christianity nor love for your enemies i see. You are sick dangerous and nuts. Satan is waiting. Do the world a favor and let him take you home!
@jackmwolfe you have alot of fucking nerve on christmas day to be speaking the way that you do to someone that has different religious beliefs other than your own. I would gladly in a heartbeat go to court and jail over knocking your ass flat on your feet multiple times. There is not a hint of christianity nor love for your enemies i see. You are sick dangerous and nuts. Satan is waiting. Do the world a favor and let him take you home!
@remusnigga Well, you certainly ought to be an expert on hatred with those years of vile racial slurs you've posted, but obviously not. Crawl back under your rock you pretentious child molester, nobody's interested.
@remusnigga "you have alot of ******* nerve...I would gladly in a heartbeat go to court and jail over knocking your ass flat on your feet multiple times."
Fruit of which spirit is evident?
People like you are the reason why true Christians must denounce 'imputed righteousness' publicly and without CEASING.
Hell is waiting for you. You are a cancer to the professing church and a pedophile who keeps justifying himself.
@rjohnson May the eternal curse of Gal1:7-9 upon those who promote a false gospel & lead others to destruction be upon you & your house with every step you take during these holidays & the coming new year. Anathema!
@remusnigga "you have just proven to everyone on here how unchristian you really are. Please stop"
Find a mirror & preach this to someone who needs to repent of his pathological lying, racial hatred, perversions, child molestation, & false claims to be a Christian. My prayers go out to your family & to everyone else you've victimized throughout your pathetic life.
@fractalfires aiko hormann is not hindu. She has an incredible calling on her life and has some of the best inner healing and deliverance books cds and dvds i have ever read or heard. Also look up dorothy ray ministries international out of riverside california. An older white lady with black hair her videos are on youtube
@fractalfires aiko hormann is not hindu. She has an incredible calling on her life and has some of the best inner healing and deliverance books cds and dvds i have ever read or heard. Also look up dorothy ray ministries international out of riverside california. An older white lady with black hair her videos are on youtube
@jackmwolfe please do post it on here then. First name middle name last name home adress major cross streets social security number date of birth what i had for breakfast etc. I triple dog dare you !
Don't you think your brother Benjamin & your father Abraham might object to their good names besmirched by being linked with a disgrace to the family such as you? But you go right ahead & post your information to prove to everyone you're not just a pathological liar & a cowardly pervert if you'd like - & I'm sure all those minorities you slur on various videos would like to know where to send a Christmas card too. Show them how brave you are.
@JackMWolfe good post. I'm sure Benjamin and Abraham would be interested in that molester's vileness displayed on youtube. And the Calvinists here all support him and refuse to denounce him. That implicates them in justifying molestation. Amazing they wreck Christmas for everyone in the world by their sin defending 'imputed' nonsense. Jeff Swayzee's continued presence on youtube is to blame for remusnigga getting bold. I knew it.
@fractalfires Yes, Calvinists support a guy who continuously posts vile racial slurs on videos such as "Is this racist?, Song of the South clip", who's admitted to being involved in porn movies, admitted to being thrown out of Chuck Smith's Calvary Chapel in CA, has been thrown out of a church in Vegas for child molestation, from another there for pretending on YouTube he was their youth pastor, & his pathological lies, trolling, & smearing of people & ministries are on constant display here..
@JackMWolfe wow, did you see remusnigga's recent post? He figures he's in God's good grace for 'repenting' of past sins (denying others) but he feels just fine about his present sins. Check out his language. He's using his 'outdoor' voice.
@remusnigga I already have your name & number as do all the churches in your area endangered by your presence. Getting the word out about you & with God's help, your perversions will be contained & reduced to only molesting that blow-up doll you keep under your bed. Channeler's instant connection with you speaks volumes - imposters are known not only by their filthy doctrines but by the company they keep, it's part of the fruit that exposes them as counterfeits. The Lord rebuke the both of you.
I admit that i am a sinner. I rebelled and moved to las vegas nevada. It was never my intention to attend any church or even repent. But i went to a church feeding about eleven years ago and met god. Not personally but i experienced his presence. Not trying to bring glory and honor to myself just being truthful. I am surprised that jackmwolfe and fractalfires never mention their faith or what god has done in their lives
@christianitychannel amen and thank you brother! Please do a google search of dr. Aiko hormann ministries and on youtube please type in cant get away by rush of fools todd agnew our great god kari jobe revelation song john waller our god reigns here and planetshakers you are good You will thouroughly enjoy all of these ! Amen!
@remusnigga Aiko Horman is a false prophetess. She claims science degrees and claims that rabbits died because blood from angry persons was injected into it.
I saw her preaching her Hinduism couched in Bible language. She said everybody is God manifest in flesh and had everybody repeat it after her.
@christianitychannel merry christmas! And i do appreciate your sharing your testimony of what god has done in your life. Notice how i have appologized to fractalfires and told the truth to jackmwolfe. I dont care for them particularly but what is your honest opinion of me and them based on what you have read in the comments section?
@remusnigga I notice a lot about fractalfires and jackmwolfe. I notice how hostility, pride and arrogance are their strong towers. I notice the frail individuals who hide behind the vulgar and anti-Christian facades. Merry Christmas to you. The birth of our Savior Jesus Christ, fully God, full man incarnate, sinless life, suffering,, death on the cross, imputed righteoussess, forgiveness for sin; fulfilling the prophets and the will of God the Father. To God alone be all the glory!
@remusnigga - Correction - their facade is not "anti-Christian." That is indeed real. They put up a Christian facade which is of only late welcome in a now Post Modern Chrisitian society. The right word to describe them is the word "pseudo-Christian" which describes those as "the individuals who makes deceitful pretenses" of being Christian.
@fractalfires i am not a demon and have not done anything to any youth. I was kicked out of a church for giving a 7 year old girl about 500.00 worth of disney stuffed animals. People took that the wrong way and emailed several other churches labeling me as a pedophile. I am not one and serve on staff at a new church now. Why must you gossip and bare false witness ?
@remusnigga "i am not a demon and have not done anything to any youth. I was kicked out of a church for giving a 7 year old girl about 500.00 worth of disney stuffed animals. People took that the wrong way and emailed several other churches labeling me as a pedophile. I am not one and serve on staff at a new church now. Why must you gossip and bare false witness ?"
@jackmwolfe god gives not only discernment to those that he has predestined to be one of the elect to be saved but permission to say and do things they may or may not understand but comply with as part of his divine will for their lives. You are neither predestined nor elect and you have no authority to treat myself and others the way that you do.
@remusnigga "god gives not only discernment to those that he has predestined to be one of the elect to be saved permission to say & do things they may or may not understand but comply with as part of his divine will for their lives"
So God told you to lie about being the youth pastor at New Community Church in Vegas & to say I hacked into you account & posted those racial slurs when it was YOU all along? So prophets like you have a special dispensation to lie while doing what God tells them?
@jackmwolfe god has revaled to me that fractalfires is one of the elect that has been predestined by god to be saved. I try to see any shred of love or decency and compassion that you have amongst your brethren whom you always argue and disagree with and your hate will only destroy you. Does the word repent mean anything to you?
@jackmwolfe thou shall not judge unto others judge not thou will be judged. And god gives me special permission to judge those like uncle remus in ephesians 5:11 and also says that lightness and darkness cant mix.
@remusnigga "god gives me special permission to judge those like uncle remus in ephesians 5:11 & also says that lightness & darkness cant mix."
So you have a special calling to post hateful racial slurs in order to "expose & reprove the enterprises of darkness" - those who have dark SKIN. Interesting, since you previously claimed I've been hacking into your account & posting those slurs to make you look bad - that makes you a liar doesn't it? Or should we not "judge you" for being a liar?
@fractalfires its almost christmas time. I wish to extend to you forgiveness grace and the true love and happiness that comes from a true relationship with the real jesus christ of the bible. Lets put our religious differences aside and agree to disagree. I am not a pedophile. Never have been nor ever will be. I am doing the christian thing here. I hope it helps. From las vegas nevada with love!
@remusnigga forgiveness from a demoniac doesn't mean a whole lot in any age. I suppose you extend forgiveness to those youth who tempted you to abuse them too.
@Channeler "Proverbs 19:5 "A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape."
Good verse, make a big sign with it & put it around your neck to remind yourself of your impending doom - a bonus is you can use it to surf on the Lake of Fire for a few seconds longer than your pal & false prophet, remusnigga.
@JackMWolfe - Poor Jack. Hostility rules your life. Pride and arrogant conceit are with you always. Are you aware that those who are arrogant and proud are least likely to be confident in their faith. I see through the facade Jack. I see many JackMWolfes roaming around the world who are just as miserable and unrepentant; so they do as you and try to mask it with arrogant antagonism.
@fractalfires - Proverbs 15:28 "The heart of the righteous ponders how to answer, but the mouth of the wicked pours out evil things." You cannot hide who you are fractalfires. Your mouth and heart will not allow that.
@ChristianityChannel "Your most recent comment reminded me of a Proverb I was studying yesterday. One vers in particular comes to mind. It is...
Proverbs 19:5 "A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape.""
It is evident God is speaking to YOU about your own judgment. I would pay attention to the Holy Spirit if I were you. Because you CERTAINLY WILL NOT ESCAPE. You keep resisting the Holy Spirit's voice to your eternal torment
Everybody on here keeps arguing! Especially the demos jack m wolfe and fractalfires. Are there any true christians on here other than myself that would care to share what god has done and continues to do in your life?
@remusnigga - Certainly. I would love to share the truth. He has saved me eternally. He is demonstrating His Omniscience in revealing His wisdom, knowledge, discretion and discernment in study each day; all the glory belongs to Him. He reminds me that He is Omnipresent and He is always with me during good times and tough times. He reminds me that He will never leave or fosake me. He demonstrates His Omnipotence in Nature each day, in my technology-based job. He is glorious!
@ChristianityChannel "He demonstrates His Omnipotence in Nature each day, in my technology-based job. He is glorious!"
Slick, greasy, vile intentional cover up, using words to disguise that you hold that He demonstrates also his 'Omnipotence' by making people steal, lie, cheat, murder, extort, molest, abuse, and follow doctrines of demons. You say he is GLORIOUS for decreeing that people break his LAWS! You're nothing but a demoniac teaching that God is the cause of sin.
@remusnigga "Everybody on here keeps arguing! Especially the demos jack m wolfe and fractalfires."
Ah, you feel molesting kids is good but arguing is bad. Demoniacs have certainly gotten more sophisticated since Jesus' earthly ministry began. When did you first invite the demoniac spirits to make a nest in your being? Do you think you are going to continue spouting demoniac speech without consequences demon?
@fractalfires remusnigga sez: "I wish to extend to you forgiveness grace & the true love & happiness that comes from a true relationship with the real jesus christ of the bible"
A very touching gesture, & maybe he'll offer you an opportunity to join him in his next porn shoot, or to visit & go by all churches he's been thrown out of in Vegas, or maybe join him in posting some racial slurs on videos such as "Is this racist? Song of the South clip" - one of his favorite Christmas activities.
@fractalfires i can say that i heard that you murdered somebody in a hit and run a few days ago and got away with it. What would your response be? I am a christian and have never and would never harm any of gods innocent children. Giving an expensive gift to a homeless child that i used to be the pastor of doesnt make me a pedophile!
Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. (depart is the word apostatize)
The early fathers speak of Lucifer as being an apostate angel. He deserted, fell away from, revolted from his former position or standing.
@ChristianityChannel Luke 8:13 They on the rock [are they], which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation FALL AWAY. 1 Tim 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall DEPART from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils (like Calvinism);
@ChristianityChannel "Went out: go out, depart, go forth, come out, come forth...OK?"
No, not okay. the word aphistemai 868 in Strong's from which we get the word apostasy means desertion. There is not a single verse that indicates anything more than DESERTION. This is not a mere rejection of the Gospel by a sinner or hypocrite.
The term as a noun is used as a writ of divorce in Matthew. You are wicked.
@fractalfires - You are not a Greek Scholar and you are not even a "Strong's Concordance Greek Scholar." You just want to argue. That is clear. You believe what you want. Just remember, Proverbs 9:12 teaches, "If you are wise, you are wise for yourself; if you scoff, you alone will bear it."
@ChristianityChannel I have gone through several books of Greek grammar and I can figure out which book of the Bible I am in after reading a few verses in the Greek.
I don't pretend to be an expert, but feel free to attack my education.
The passage you quoted shows that you are scoffing at what I know. Big deal. I could care less.
@ChristianityChannel "You just want to argue. That is clear. You believe what you want."
Your speech reveals that you are a demoniac. It is now clear in fact that you ARE a demoniac. That's what happens when you defend error for the sake of pride. Never mind quoting scripture when you are the scoffer the verse was referring to. You are the demoniac. That means YOU are the liar and the problem. Your doctrines have been exposed and refuted.
@fractalfires so nice to hear you boast about your job at wallmart. You have such an infatuation about me my private life and my personal business. Unless you are jack m wolfe with a different username you are listening to gossip and lies and are falsely judging me for what you have been told but cant prove! I sleep peacefully at night and i still rebuke you in jesus name !
@remusnigga "I sleep peacefully at night and i still rebuke you in jesus name !"
You can rebuke me in Jesus' name and still molest kids. As long as you can sleep at night doing both eh?
If you were innocent you would have been screaming bloody LAWSUIT from the start.
Now you want to play it spiritual. Were you being spiritual when you were molesting those kids? Were you actually 'helping' them 'in love' for 'their OWN good'?
@Fractalfires I REBUKE You in Jesus Name! Wherever The hell you are getting these LIES and FALSE information about me (From Your new Boyfriend Jack M Wolfe?) OR you ARE Jack M Wolfe! Regardless, God has called Me and My family to A different Church in the state of Nevada,where I faithfully accept My calling to volunteer in The Children's ministry,and My wife is a greeter. Please do tell me of the WONDERFUL things that GOD has Been Doing Through YOU At YOUR Church Recently???????????????????
Ah, so you're a charismatic too. You can join Swaggart in hell. So you got caught molesting kids too I see. I have several sources on you. You have a very colorful past.
I don't know how you sleep at night. You won't sleep in hell.
@fractalfires unless you are a homosexual or looking for a daddy figure in jack m wolfe it wouldnt surprise me one bit if you actually are jack m wolfe! What happened to joan d arc ? I will continue to pray for your heretic asses !
@remusnigga "I will continue to pray for your heretic asses !" Well, we both know that you think about them a lot.
I don't use public showers, thank you for the offer. The youth formerly under your care certainly found out that you were concerned about their 'derriers' too...in a SPIRITUAL sense (if you SAY so) you rotten pedophile
@fractalfires there are no conditions you moron! God is in control and god is the judge. Not you. When another christian brother such as myself SUGGESTS something it is only out of love and concern for your spiritual well being. I am not trying to do gods job. The bible says plain simple and clearly to JUST BELIEVE. So why do you insist on quoting all of this other stuff?
@fractalfires why is it not a good thing for god to remind us where he has predestined us to spend eternity? I am not a pedophile nor a stalker. That is a serious accusation! The bible talks about bearing false witness and judging unto others. Your new friend jackmwolfe is sick and dangerous and wants to take you to hell with him!
@remusnigga "I am not a pedophile nor a stalker. That is a serious accusation! The bible talks about bearing false witness and judging unto others."
The sins you committed to get you removed from your position are serious and now you make it more serious by lying about it. While you try to do damage control and manipulate the facts you are storing up more wrath. And while you chum with WCOF and Channeler, you do God a favor by having their names associated with yours. Praise God
@christianity channel you say that you are quoting the holy bible which you are. But you make it sound as if you are quoting mark driscoll whom says the exact same thing. The world consists of everything that god created including video games and water. You are twisting scripture by implying that god died for them. God died for many peoples sins. If he predestines certain people to hell that proves that calvinism is correct!
@jackmwolfe i pray that you seek the professional psychiatric help that you so desperately need before you even think about harming another one of gods children. I pray that you get on your hands and knees and cry out to god and truely repent. The bible says to love our enemies. I love you jack but hell is hot and terrible. You would find alot to complain about there too!
@christianity channel god bless you for exposing jackmwolfe. He got me fired from my former job as a youth pastor by spreading gossip and lies about me. He tapped into my account got my password and sent kiddie porn to my pastor. He is sick and dangerous. Keep exposing him though brother or sister !
@remusnigga He didn't spread lies about you. The truth just came out about you. I knew what happened and you just confirmed it. You're a pedophile stalker
@jackmwolfe so which seminary school did you flunk out of? What religion or denomination to you practice? Where do you attend church? Are you serving there as a volunteer or staff? I cant wait for the day where jesus christ himself says he never knew you. You follow bill maher when you should follow jesus christ!
@remusnigga "You follow bill maher when you should follow jesus christ!"
Like you following child porn and getting yourself kicked out of youth pastoring? After you read this, abandon your youtube account. Don't open your channel again. Do it YESTERDAY. WCOF justifies child porn and sin in 'true believers' and you actually get caught!
@jackmwolfe you dont make any damn sense whatsoever. If god is all knowing and everything that has ever or will ever happened has already been predestined from the very beginning then your false arminianism and openp theist doctrine makes absolutely no sense at all. Even if you are arminian please do tell us of your good works that you are claiming!
Nice presentation. The reality is that neither view is 100% correct. 4 Point Arminianism (the first four) and 2 point Calvinism (T (#1) and P (#5)) a la Norm Geisler is the best position.
@jackmwolfe i know why you arent responding to any of my comments. Because you know damn well that i expose false doctrine and it makes you look soooooo bad! You have been on here like 24 7. You are an open theist cultist moron that desires an audience!
@fractalfires YOU can have fun in hell with your new boyfriend jackmwolfe. I have studied scripture for 13 years. Calvinism came out way before man centered faith by works arminianism did. I am not a universalist and i do know what i am talking about! All fucking day you play on youtube to show millions of people how you think you know scripture. Aint workin dude!
@741rjohnson i commend you for your last comment which is biblical and correct. And for the other guy YOU are quoting this twelve tribes gods chosen people crap and trying to pass it off as jewish. Yes jesus was a jew and his hebrew name is yahshua but you are twisting scripture to support your hillarious interpretations just like jackmwolfe. I rebuke and expose you in jesus name!
@remusnigga Thanks for replying to my comments.You may not agree with this but Calvinist and Universalist have a lot in common in that both views understand the Sovereingty of God in salvation. We understand that the blood of Jesus Christ actually saves people,not just make salvation possible(Arminianism).Thanks. God Bless
@741rjohnson I am most CERTAIN of the basis of unity between Calvinism and Universalism. Both positions generally hold to the doctrine of physical inability, and the need of physical regeneration (change of nature). Both hold the 'payment of the debt' theory of atonement. Universalism is actually more consistent than Calvinism in that respect. Both hold that salvation is automatic for whom Christ died. Calvinism errs worse by saying Christ only died for the lucky ones, lol.
@741rjohnson atonement continued. If the payment of the debt theory of atonement is true and Jesus paid for every sin for those whom he died, then universalism is the necessary conclusion. This is why many Calvinists become Universalists. It is easy to show that Christ died for ALL. It is more consistent with love that God through the cross made atonement AVAILABLE to all, rather than AUTOMATIC to all. Conditional pardon is consistent with perfect benevolence. grace and peace.
@rjohnson "You may not agree with this but Calvinist & Universalist have a lot in common in that both views understand the Sovereingty of God in salvation"
Correct. They're both false gospels based on the unbiblical idea that God sovereignly forces salvation on men instead of offerring it as a gift which can be declined - the C's just limit it to a chosen few while the U's make it all inclusive. Both deny the conditional nature of the gift - that men are free not to repent & can reject it.
@JackMWolfe Jack's making his usual rounds around YouTube defiling the Word of God and (for which he/she will have to give an account) storing up wrath for himself. Jack preaches a false Gospel of Faith + Works Righteousness. Jack makes a mock of Eph 2:9 and Rom 3:20 (actually his entire biblical commentary is mockery). I have shown you how God's gift is unconditional and you scorn. Proverbs 9:12b...but if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it. Jack's on dangerous ground.
@Channel Rather, I'm posting the same refutations of your trolling excursions - exposing that your demonic doctrines are based on manipulated prooftexts you ripped from the bible & then forced your abominations between the lines. Your PARTIAL quote of Paul in Eph2:8-9 is a perfect example - vs10 says believers are saved UNTO good works that God has predestined for them to do - sanctifying works which are a VITAL part of salvation & if not obeyed, then salvation will be forfeited - as YOURS has!
@JackMWolfe - I am fully aware of the passage Ephesians 2:8-10. I am telling you that you do not rightly divide the Word of God. As a matter of fact your failure to properly exegite this passage is one of the most grotesque errors I have seen someone professing to be a Christian make. Your distorted view of Scripture is appaling. In 2:8 and 9 clearly see Monergism and Sola Fide. In verse 10 we see "why." Verse 10 poses NO condition to round-out the salvation story. Continued
@ChristianityChannel "Verse 10 poses NO condition to round-out the salvation story. "
Then why keep telling Jack and I to 'repent and believe' Calvinism? You and WCOF keep threatening us with hell and keep putting conditions on us, lol. Is that a tear?
@ChristianityChannel "I am fully aware of the passage Ephesians 2:8-10. I am telling you that you do not rightly divide the Word of God."
It's OKAY to disagree with you if a person is certain of having better evidence for a differing position. If a person sees that you are silly but that you have a 'perceptual set' preventing you from seeing your error, your outrage is understandable, but not JUSTIFIED. You need to see the facts, embrace them all, and change your heart
@JackMWolfe (continued) - There is Salvation which stands alone; through the finished work of our Lord and God, Jesus Christ, his spotless life, his pure blood shed on the cross, imputation, taking on the full wrath of God for our sins and imputing His righteousness to us. He said "It is finished and IT IS. It was finshed there and then. No need for man's tainted works to be added for such are filthy rags. You are returning to law. You are not justified by the works of the law.
@ChristianityChannel What a pile of manure. If payment of a debt is true and imputation is true and there is nothing to add to it, then neither is repentance nor faith necessary. If unbelief is a sin, then surely your imputation theory must impute righteousness even to the sin of unbelief. Otherwise it is not a complete and finished work. No obedience required. You call that good news to the elect, lol.
@ChristianityChannel "You are returning to law. You are not justified by the works of the law." But if you tell us NOT to return to the 'law' and to stop doing that, you are putting conditions on us in order to be saved! I believed in imputation until I researched the debate over it. So if 'the work is finished, nothing to add to it, no obedience required' is true, then we can preach against imputation with no soteriological consequences. You have been refuted.
@fractalfires If you were a true Christian you wouldn't continue to believe and propagate lies. If you continue in sin, opposing God's Word, opposing God, ascribing His attributes as Unholy, you're deceiving yourself. Your Soteriological position is that you trust in man's work righteousness for salvation and that has eternal consequences. Your departing from the truth about God, His Son, Salvation and Sanctification shows that you were never of us. 1 John 2:19 and John 6:66.
@ChristianityChannel "If you were a true Christian you wouldn't continue to believe and propagate lies. " I am a Christian is the Bible sense of the term and everything you post is garbage from square one.
@ChristianityChannel "Your departing from the truth about God, His Son, Salvation and Sanctification shows that you were never of us. 1 John 2:19 and John 6:66."
Now you sound like an Arminian. If I 'departed from the truth' then you are admitting that I once 'had it'. Upon the supposition that your Calvinism is true, then I am STILL 'of you'. What a horrible thought to consider being in heaven with a Holy Spirit blaspheming Calvin worshiper! Tragic that you're dead.
@fractalfires Not at all. If the truth is preached, i.e., proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ and you reject it, you are departing from the truth. If you hang out in a church that is preaching the truth but, you yourself, have never been born again, and you leave the church you are departing from the truth. Read the two verses and the surronding passages; 1 John 2:19 and John 6:66
@ChristianityChannel Show me in the Bible where a sinner who rejects the Gospel has 'departed from the truth'.
If you depart from the USA it demonstrates you were never there in the first place: that's Calvinistic word tricks. "Anybody who divorces demonstrates they weren't married to begin with" Brilliantly stupid Calvinists.
@ChristianityChannel "You said, "Show me in the Bible where a sinner who rejects the Gospel has 'departed from the truth.""
Now you cited John 6:66 and Matthew 27:5
You did not define 'depart' correctly. In the first verse, there were those who WERE Christ's disciples, but later CEASED being disciples.
You're begging for people to accept your views. This is not exegesis from you. It is just the Calvinistic view of prooftexts which don't support it. Again.
@fractalfires A disciple does not insist regenerate. A disciple is a "learner." And I certainly did define depart correctly. You must understand that words have more than one meaning. Those who were LEARNING about Christ, departed from him, because they did not believe. And we know why. John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. OK?
@ChristianityChannel "A disciple does not insist regenerate. A disciple is a "learner." And I certainly did define depart correctly."
No you didn't. You are an idiot who would fail grade 1 if you tried to argue that with a teacher. Also Calvinism is incorrect so your first statement is wrong. A disciple is a learner. You have learned nothing except to be the devil's disciple. Is it not enough to butcher Scripture that you have to butcher the dictionary as well?
@fractalfires (continued) 1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they all are not of us.
Went out: go out, depart, go forth, come out, come forth...
@ChristianityChannel the verse doesn't DEMONSTRATE that the persons were not saved to begin with. Are you saying that if the persons who 'went out from among us' had died BEFORE leaving the Apostles doctrine would have manifested they were true believers?
Perhaps you should focus on more important terms 'continued'. Rather than 'depart, went out'.
@ChristianityChannel Again, if Wallmart is 2 miles from your home and you change your mind and go two miles in the other direction one block after you DEPARTED from your home, did you just DEPART from Wallmart?
1 Tim 6:"4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, "
You subvert faith by subverting language itself and consequently of proper thinking.
@fractalfires If worms had machine guns would birds attack them? If, if, if, if...If IS NOT EXEGESIS! On the contrary, you speak lies in hypocrisy as revealed in 1 Tim 4:2 by subverting that very truth & railing against me. God gave us languages (Tower of Babel), God gave us grammar, He gave us hermeneutics. Why do you despise His Word? Have you not read Proverbs 13:13 Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed: but he that feareth the commandment shall be rewarded.
@ChristianityChannel you are so confused. You teach that God is the ultimate cause of sin and now you elaborate and make God the ultimate cause of the Great Apostasy. People you say were born to populate hell are THREATENED with hell for DEPARTING from the truth. But if they didn't depart from the truth, then they are still damned according to you. You are confused beyond belief.
@fractalfires Well you say I am confused but I think more accurately you are confused because you don't understand me. You are at variance with me. You are "departing from the truth" about God, His Son, the Gospel and so many other things. It's sad to see you confused. God IS SOVEREIGN over all. Man is still culpable for the decisions he makes. He sins and does not believe because he loves sin and thinks the preaching of the cross is foolishness. GUILTY! But for Chirst...
Yup, to you, when people don't understand you, you say they are confused.
I pity you for having lobotomized yourself to think 'depart' and 'apostatize' to mean something other than it is meant in common speech. Your preaching is not 'the foolishness of the Gospel' but just plain fanatic Calvinist idiot foolishness.
@ChristianityChannel "Well you say I am confused but I think more accurately you are confused because you don't understand me. You are at variance with me"
It is better to be at variance with an idiot like yourself than to be an idiot...like YOURSELF.
I understand you well enough. It is just that you are nuts.
@ChristianityChannel "If the truth is preached, i.e., proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ and you reject it, you are departing from the truth."
No. If I depart from Wallmart it means I was there. Nor does it mean 'going in a different direction' because I may have been on my way to Wallmart, but changed my mind one block from home. I departed from my GOAL to go there, but I didn't depart from Wallmart. Back to kindergarten, jerk. Glad you don't teach my kids English.
@JackMWolfe (continued) - I can tell you that you're miserable and afraid because you have no assurance of salvation. 99% of your time on YouTube, is spent opposing against real Christians, the real Gospel and the One True God of the Bible. Your handling of scripture WOULD BE COMICAL IF IT WEREN'T SO TRAGIC! Your ignorance and conceit stink up the place. you are so embedded in sin that you DON'T EVEN REALIZE IT! Prov18:2 and 26:12, 2 Tim 4:2 and Rom 2:5. Very tragic Jack!
@Channeler What's tragic is your irreversible condemnation for blaspheming the Spirit - I only respond to you so others won't be misled into the same hopeless condition. The works referred to in Eph2:10 have NOTHING to do with trying to be justified by the Law - they're GOD"S sanctifying works that become available to believers when they put their faith in Christ. They're unique works designed for each believer that are inspired & empowered by the Holy Spirit - but no longer available to you.
@JackMWolfe Fron Genesis to Revelation the Holy Bible reveals that SALVATION IS OF THE LORD, ALONE. From Genesis to Revelation the Holy Bible reveals that salvation IS NEVER BY HUMAN EFFORT, P-E-R-I-O-D. I assure you that the Holy Spirit of God resides within. This is the reason I am addressing you Jack. Otherwise, I would pass on by you and pay no attention to you. (continued)
@JackMWolfe (continued) You're weaving a web of deceit and storing up wrath for yourself by labeling works as "sanctifying works" whle similtaneously insisting they are "salvific works". They're not unique works Jack. Your life is govern by God, Jesus Christ our Lord; or your life is govern by sin, held in bondage to do the will of the devil, 2 Timothy 2:25-27; in this case you are a mouth piece for the devil preaching a FALSE GOSEPEL. You knnow nothing about God's grace Jack.
@Channeler "the Holy Bible reveals that salvation IS NEVER BY HUMAN EFFORT, P-E-R-I-O-D"
L-O-L
Heb4:11 "Let us therefore be zealous & exert ourselves & strive diligently to enter that rest that no one may fall or perish by the same kind of unbelief & disobedience into which those in the wilderness fell"
2Pet1:5 "For this very reason, add your diligence to the divine promises, employ every effort in exercising your faith.."
I guess Paul & Peter didn't get that memo! What a blind fool.
@JackMWolfe No salvation iss never by human effort, period. Romans 9:16 "So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy." Now I have already explained to you that you do not know how to exegete the Word of God properly. It is not possible for the natural man to understand the things of the Spirit of God. If you knew that you would also know that you are combining Hebrews 3:17 with Hebrews 4:11. That's called eisegesis, Jack. (continued)
@JackMWolfe (cont) NEITHER passage speaks of a loss of salvation or human will to obtain salvation. Read Rom 9:6-7 Jack. And, 2 Pet 1:5 is not speaking of loss of salvation or human will to obtain salvation. Notice that the verse says supplementing- adding to-applying diligence TO WHAT? Y-O-U-R F-A-I-T-H! You must have Faith before you can sanctify your faith. If you're saved, you have a faith that's not of yourself but through God's Grace by the finished work of Jesus Christ
@ChristianityChannel your 'exegesis' is eisegesis. I know you FEEL your interpretation...your CALVINISM...is the truth, but Scripture doesn't support your interpretation of it. We KNOW how you interpret it, but most people do not agree with it.
A person can have eternal life without hearing about or agreeing with your interpretation. The early fathers before Augustine did not agree with your gnostic views either. Your views are anti-Christian and anti-Semitic.
@JackMWolfe - Now you know what is a dead give-away that shows you are not a Christian Jack? Your attitude! You type LOL. There is nothing laughable about your condition. Proverbs 29:9 teaches us "If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet." You conceit and arrogant contempt is another give-away. You are drowning in your own sin and folly and you love it. You are in an eternally horrific situation Jack.
@Channel "what is a dead give-away that shows you are not a Christian Your attitude! You type LOL"
Ps2:4 "He Who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord has them in derision & in supreme contempt He mocks them..He speaks to them in His deep anger & terrifies & confounds them in His displeasure & fury..."
Along with God, I laugh & mock your elitist doctrines, doltish pseudo-knowledge, bloated ego, & fictional god whose only power is deception. I'll laugh now & walk on BOTH your ashes later!
@JackMWolfe No sir. You laugh and mock like a fool and you ensnared by your mouth and storing up wrath. Like the devil in Matthew Chapter 4, you misuse the Word of God for your own evil purpose. Christians proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The good news is that Jesus Christ alone has died for and is the propitiation of the sins of those who believe on Him. No works will secure salvation. Continue to mock but there's an end to your folly. Reconsider, repnent and believe!
No, Jesus HIMSELF claimed that the Gospel is 'for God so loved the WORLD...'
It is not 'good news' for those predestined to go to heaven. It is good news for those who are lost. If the elect were never lost to begin with, they don't even NEED to hear that Jesus died for them. They'll just find out when they die.
Also, Jack and I did believe imputation for a short time. So if we are wrong, we can't be lost!
@ChristianityChannel "I can tell you that you're miserable and afraid because you have no assurance of salvation. " If Calvinism is true, then one doesn't need assurance of salvation in order to be one of the elect. Most of us believed imputation before having realized there was a 'calvinism-arminian' debate. If it is true, we don't need to fear hell ever.
We've been over this several times. You don't OWN the copyright on the Bible and YOUR interpretation is not somebody else's. I've explained to you that the Bible is not proof of one's interpretation of it. Anybody is free to mock your interpretation if they see it is nonsense and you are getting abusive while pushing it. The only 'dangerous ground' is suffering more empty threats of hell and more abuse.
@741rjohnson Yes, if Jesus paid the debt and imputed righteousness to all those for whom he died (and Calvinists and Universalists agree there) then it is simple to show from Scripture that Jesus died for all. All of us like sheep have gone astray...
Scripture says Jesus died for all, Calvinists' interpretation says he died for some. Sola Interpretation (they confuse for Scripture)
@741rjohnson God chooses whom will be saved. While he wants everyone to repent of their sins which is an act of faith and not faith by works. If he wanted us all to be saved then hell wouldnt exist. JACKMWOLFE IS ON HIS WAY TO HELL! AND THATS JUST THE WAY GOD WANTED IT TO BE! Amen !
". . . I made use of what was given me, and others did not - that is the difference between me and them'. That is a prayer for the devil, for nobody else would offer such a prayer as that. Ah! When they are preaching and talking slowly, there may be wrong doctrine; but when they come to pray, the true thing slips out; they cannot help it."
Lord, I know thou dost not make us willing if we are not willing ourselves. Thou givest grace to everybody; some do not improve it, but I do. There are many that will go to hell as much bought with the blood of Christ as I was; they had as much of the Holy Spirit given to them; they had as good a chance, and were as much blessed as I am. It was not thy grace that made us to differ; I know it did a great deal, still I turned the point; . . ."
"An Arminian on his knees would pray desperately like a Calvinist. He cannot pray about free-will: there is no room for it. Fancy him praying, 'Lord, I thank Thee I am not like those poor Calvinists. Lord, I was born with a glorious free-will; I was born with power by which I can turn to thee myself; I have improved my grace. If everybody has done the same with their grace that I have, they might all have been saved."
@fractalfires1
Life under Calvins reign of terror in Geneva was no different than the life of a Jew in a German Concentration Camp.
Calvin had a man tortured for over a month for leaving him a note on his pulpit calling him a "hypocrite" then had him beheaded. Not only so, after kicking his wife & children out of their home, he had it set on fire & watched it burn down.
Isaiah1v18 4 days ago
John Calvin the greatest teacher outside of the Bible? Show me a scholar who isn't Baptist or Presbyterian that claims that, then i may be inclined to take this seriously. You mentioned Luther, did you know that he and Calvin are in direct contention with this subject? He isn't Arminian either. John Calvin too often used human logic to explain God's actions, which led to double-predestination, etc. You should know that you can't explain anything about God, unless it is revealed in scripture.
theburninator321 5 days ago
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A question for Calvinists: Demas in the bible was never saved in the first place? If not, how about Judas? He was never saved? How then did Judas heal the sick, perform miracles and cast out devils, when Jesus said Satan cannot cast out Satan
hemet92544 6 days ago
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A Question Calvinist can't clearly directly answer, children that are beaten, some raped and even murdered, God preordained this before their birth is what a true Predestined Elected Calvinist believes, but will not admit it. examples are JonBenét Ramsey, Dennis Rader and John Wayne Gacy, Jr. who molested and killed 33 teenage boys. Since we live in the New Testament now, thus sins are not passed down through parents to children, what possible answer is valid from a Calvinist? None
hemet92544 6 days ago
@rebelghostrider Anything is Possible! Including the Fact That God Might Not even exist!
remusnigga 1 week ago
I'm very impressed. I have one question: would any Calvinist admit he/she could possibility be not one of the elect? If no then how does one know he/she is an elect? I'm serious therefore welcome contact @ chaplain_frank@yahoo.com
rebelghostrider 1 week ago
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It's interesting why you don't see all the so called Arminian preachers ridicule and put down the Calvinists but you see so many self proclaimed prideful elect Calvinists slam everyone who doesn't believe their way through their interpretation of the scriptures. The world doesn't need satan distracting them, it has Christians fighting amongst each other. What an example to my non Christian loved ones that I want to see saved. Election? Paul had a choice when he was knocked of his horse anyway
Holycannolicooking 1 week ago
Really enjoyed the film, but really wish I'd never bothered to read some of the comments.
Mikeypro79 1 week ago
Actually, God predestined all of us before the foundation of the world was lay. We were all predestined to Heaven @ that time. But, after the Fall of Man, that changed. We are all predestined to Hell. Jesus Christ died for ALL.. and that reconciled us with God.. meaning the enmity between God and man as a result of Adams transgression, was reversed.. and Gods Gift of Grace was offered to the world. And "Whosoever believes in Him shall not perish but, have everlasting life."
margovallen 2 weeks ago
(cont) We hear the Gospel and the Holy Spirit speaks to our heart.. and we either yield to the spirit or ignore it. When the HS deals with us, that is God attempting to draw us toward Him.. but, that is resistible.. most resist. Even in His Sovereignty, He gives us Free-Will to make informed choices. That seems an oxymoron to man.. but, mans thoughts and ways aren't Gods thoughts and ways. We must accept that fact.
Jesus did not die for just a few. He died for the entire human-race!
margovallen 2 weeks ago
(cont) It is not God's Will that any should perish but, that all might be saved. Well, that tells us that Christ died for all... and that God gives us Free-Will to choose. Simply because, we know that not all people get saved, in spite of God's Will that none should perish. So, in mans free-will to choose.. unfortunately, man chooses most unwisely.. therefore, inherit eternal damnation.
Neither Arminianism or Calvinism are correct in their entirety. We should just get saved and read the Bible.
margovallen 2 weeks ago
@sirTrailergang WRONG! God chose the elect! you have been listening to arminian teachings too long!
remusnigga 2 weeks ago
God chose everybody
sirTrailerGang 2 weeks ago
@fractalfires KISS MY ASS!
remusnigga 3 weeks ago
@jackmwolfe and your new boyfriend fractalfires or are you both the same person? I in no way shape or form am going to submit myself to your authority nor do i owe you any explanations. I repent of sinful things of my past but child molestation is not one of them and your allegations without proof are prepostourous! how come i never see you repent appologize or forgive anyone on here huh asshole?
remusnigga 1 month ago
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@1ChristianSister Calvinism is more Biblical. Stay Awy From Arminianism and Calvary Chapel.
remusnigga 1 month ago
My goodness......all I was looking for was some good helpful information. Why is it every time the subject of Calvinism/Arminianism comes up, folks start fighting?
1ChristianSister 1 month ago 2
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@jackmwolfe Try Going to a Church For Once In Your Life. Confess Your sins To a pastor and Tell Them How Wrong they are,and How You'll 'Sing a Little song For Them". I am NOT a Child Molestor. And ANY pastor will tell You that It is a SERIOUS Defemation of Character To Imply That On someone That You don't even know!
remusnigga 1 month ago
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@jackmwolfe you have alot of fucking nerve on christmas day to be speaking the way that you do to someone that has different religious beliefs other than your own. I would gladly in a heartbeat go to court and jail over knocking your ass flat on your feet multiple times. There is not a hint of christianity nor love for your enemies i see. You are sick dangerous and nuts. Satan is waiting. Do the world a favor and let him take you home!
remusnigga 1 month ago
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@jackmwolfe you have alot of fucking nerve on christmas day to be speaking the way that you do to someone that has different religious beliefs other than your own. I would gladly in a heartbeat go to court and jail over knocking your ass flat on your feet multiple times. There is not a hint of christianity nor love for your enemies i see. You are sick dangerous and nuts. Satan is waiting. Do the world a favor and let him take you home!
remusnigga 1 month ago
@remusnigga Well, you certainly ought to be an expert on hatred with those years of vile racial slurs you've posted, but obviously not. Crawl back under your rock you pretentious child molester, nobody's interested.
JackMWolfe 1 month ago
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@remusnigga "you have alot of ******* nerve...I would gladly in a heartbeat go to court and jail over knocking your ass flat on your feet multiple times."
Fruit of which spirit is evident?
People like you are the reason why true Christians must denounce 'imputed righteousness' publicly and without CEASING.
Hell is waiting for you. You are a cancer to the professing church and a pedophile who keeps justifying himself.
fractalfires 1 month ago
To JackMWolf, fractalfires,and all the Arminians,Calvinist and Universalist--Have a Merry Christmas!!!
741rjohnson 1 month ago
@rjohnson May the eternal curse of Gal1:7-9 upon those who promote a false gospel & lead others to destruction be upon you & your house with every step you take during these holidays & the coming new year. Anathema!
JackMWolfe 1 month ago
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JackMWolfe 1 month ago
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Merry Christmas Everybody! And JackMWolfe SHUT UP!
Rebeccagilespi 1 month ago
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@jackmwolfe you are not funny and you have just proven to everyone on here how unchristian you really are. Please stop.
remusnigga 1 month ago
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@remusnigga "you have just proven to everyone on here how unchristian you really are. Please stop"
Find a mirror & preach this to someone who needs to repent of his pathological lying, racial hatred, perversions, child molestation, & false claims to be a Christian. My prayers go out to your family & to everyone else you've victimized throughout your pathetic life.
JackMWolfe 1 month ago
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@fractalfires aiko hormann is not hindu. She has an incredible calling on her life and has some of the best inner healing and deliverance books cds and dvds i have ever read or heard. Also look up dorothy ray ministries international out of riverside california. An older white lady with black hair her videos are on youtube
remusnigga 1 month ago
@fractalfires aiko hormann is not hindu. She has an incredible calling on her life and has some of the best inner healing and deliverance books cds and dvds i have ever read or heard. Also look up dorothy ray ministries international out of riverside california. An older white lady with black hair her videos are on youtube
remusnigga 1 month ago
@jackmwolfe please do post it on here then. First name middle name last name home adress major cross streets social security number date of birth what i had for breakfast etc. I triple dog dare you !
remusnigga 1 month ago
@remusnigga "please do post it on here then"
Don't you think your brother Benjamin & your father Abraham might object to their good names besmirched by being linked with a disgrace to the family such as you? But you go right ahead & post your information to prove to everyone you're not just a pathological liar & a cowardly pervert if you'd like - & I'm sure all those minorities you slur on various videos would like to know where to send a Christmas card too. Show them how brave you are.
JackMWolfe 1 month ago
@JackMWolfe good post. I'm sure Benjamin and Abraham would be interested in that molester's vileness displayed on youtube. And the Calvinists here all support him and refuse to denounce him. That implicates them in justifying molestation. Amazing they wreck Christmas for everyone in the world by their sin defending 'imputed' nonsense. Jeff Swayzee's continued presence on youtube is to blame for remusnigga getting bold. I knew it.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@fractalfires Yes, Calvinists support a guy who continuously posts vile racial slurs on videos such as "Is this racist?, Song of the South clip", who's admitted to being involved in porn movies, admitted to being thrown out of Chuck Smith's Calvary Chapel in CA, has been thrown out of a church in Vegas for child molestation, from another there for pretending on YouTube he was their youth pastor, & his pathological lies, trolling, & smearing of people & ministries are on constant display here..
JackMWolfe 1 month ago
@JackMWolfe wow, did you see remusnigga's recent post? He figures he's in God's good grace for 'repenting' of past sins (denying others) but he feels just fine about his present sins. Check out his language. He's using his 'outdoor' voice.
fractalfires 4 weeks ago
@jackmwolfe feel free to give me a call and tell me all that you think you know about me. 1 702 386 5397 I am not afraid of you punk!
remusnigga 1 month ago
@remusnigga I already have your name & number as do all the churches in your area endangered by your presence. Getting the word out about you & with God's help, your perversions will be contained & reduced to only molesting that blow-up doll you keep under your bed. Channeler's instant connection with you speaks volumes - imposters are known not only by their filthy doctrines but by the company they keep, it's part of the fruit that exposes them as counterfeits. The Lord rebuke the both of you.
JackMWolfe 1 month ago
I admit that i am a sinner. I rebelled and moved to las vegas nevada. It was never my intention to attend any church or even repent. But i went to a church feeding about eleven years ago and met god. Not personally but i experienced his presence. Not trying to bring glory and honor to myself just being truthful. I am surprised that jackmwolfe and fractalfires never mention their faith or what god has done in their lives
remusnigga 1 month ago
@christianitychannel amen and thank you brother! Please do a google search of dr. Aiko hormann ministries and on youtube please type in cant get away by rush of fools todd agnew our great god kari jobe revelation song john waller our god reigns here and planetshakers you are good You will thouroughly enjoy all of these ! Amen!
remusnigga 1 month ago
@remusnigga Aiko Horman is a false prophetess. She claims science degrees and claims that rabbits died because blood from angry persons was injected into it.
I saw her preaching her Hinduism couched in Bible language. She said everybody is God manifest in flesh and had everybody repeat it after her.
fractalfires 1 month ago
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ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
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ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@christianitychannel merry christmas! And i do appreciate your sharing your testimony of what god has done in your life. Notice how i have appologized to fractalfires and told the truth to jackmwolfe. I dont care for them particularly but what is your honest opinion of me and them based on what you have read in the comments section?
remusnigga 1 month ago
@remusnigga I notice a lot about fractalfires and jackmwolfe. I notice how hostility, pride and arrogance are their strong towers. I notice the frail individuals who hide behind the vulgar and anti-Christian facades. Merry Christmas to you. The birth of our Savior Jesus Christ, fully God, full man incarnate, sinless life, suffering,, death on the cross, imputed righteoussess, forgiveness for sin; fulfilling the prophets and the will of God the Father. To God alone be all the glory!
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
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@remusnigga - Correction - their facade is not "anti-Christian." That is indeed real. They put up a Christian facade which is of only late welcome in a now Post Modern Chrisitian society. The right word to describe them is the word "pseudo-Christian" which describes those as "the individuals who makes deceitful pretenses" of being Christian.
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@fractalfires i am not a demon and have not done anything to any youth. I was kicked out of a church for giving a 7 year old girl about 500.00 worth of disney stuffed animals. People took that the wrong way and emailed several other churches labeling me as a pedophile. I am not one and serve on staff at a new church now. Why must you gossip and bare false witness ?
remusnigga 1 month ago
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@remusnigga "i am not a demon and have not done anything to any youth. I was kicked out of a church for giving a 7 year old girl about 500.00 worth of disney stuffed animals. People took that the wrong way and emailed several other churches labeling me as a pedophile. I am not one and serve on staff at a new church now. Why must you gossip and bare false witness ?"
Keep talking. You expose yourself even more.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@jackmwolfe god gives not only discernment to those that he has predestined to be one of the elect to be saved but permission to say and do things they may or may not understand but comply with as part of his divine will for their lives. You are neither predestined nor elect and you have no authority to treat myself and others the way that you do.
remusnigga 1 month ago
@remusnigga "god gives not only discernment to those that he has predestined to be one of the elect to be saved permission to say & do things they may or may not understand but comply with as part of his divine will for their lives"
So God told you to lie about being the youth pastor at New Community Church in Vegas & to say I hacked into you account & posted those racial slurs when it was YOU all along? So prophets like you have a special dispensation to lie while doing what God tells them?
JackMWolfe 1 month ago
@jackmwolfe god has revaled to me that fractalfires is one of the elect that has been predestined by god to be saved. I try to see any shred of love or decency and compassion that you have amongst your brethren whom you always argue and disagree with and your hate will only destroy you. Does the word repent mean anything to you?
remusnigga 1 month ago
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@remusnigga "god has revaled to me that fractalfires is one of the elect that has been predestined by god to be saved."
Your god is a demon. I wouldn't listen to him if I were you. You need to confess what you did with the youth and repent.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@jackmwolfe thou shall not judge unto others judge not thou will be judged. And god gives me special permission to judge those like uncle remus in ephesians 5:11 and also says that lightness and darkness cant mix.
remusnigga 1 month ago
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@remusnigga "god gives me special permission to judge those like uncle remus in ephesians 5:11 & also says that lightness & darkness cant mix."
So you have a special calling to post hateful racial slurs in order to "expose & reprove the enterprises of darkness" - those who have dark SKIN. Interesting, since you previously claimed I've been hacking into your account & posting those slurs to make you look bad - that makes you a liar doesn't it? Or should we not "judge you" for being a liar?
JackMWolfe 1 month ago
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@fractalfires its almost christmas time. I wish to extend to you forgiveness grace and the true love and happiness that comes from a true relationship with the real jesus christ of the bible. Lets put our religious differences aside and agree to disagree. I am not a pedophile. Never have been nor ever will be. I am doing the christian thing here. I hope it helps. From las vegas nevada with love!
remusnigga 1 month ago
@remusnigga forgiveness from a demoniac doesn't mean a whole lot in any age. I suppose you extend forgiveness to those youth who tempted you to abuse them too.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@fractalfires - Your most recent comment reminded me of a Proverb I was studying yesterday. One vers in particular comes to mind. It is...
Proverbs 19:5 "A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape."
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@Channeler "Proverbs 19:5 "A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape."
Good verse, make a big sign with it & put it around your neck to remind yourself of your impending doom - a bonus is you can use it to surf on the Lake of Fire for a few seconds longer than your pal & false prophet, remusnigga.
JackMWolfe 1 month ago
@JackMWolfe - Poor Jack. Hostility rules your life. Pride and arrogant conceit are with you always. Are you aware that those who are arrogant and proud are least likely to be confident in their faith. I see through the facade Jack. I see many JackMWolfes roaming around the world who are just as miserable and unrepentant; so they do as you and try to mask it with arrogant antagonism.
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel "I see through the facade"
I see a demoniac calling himself ChristianityChannel.
"arrogant antagonism" is your M.O. demoniac. Your speech betrays your motives.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@fractalfires - You wouuld see that.
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@fractalfires - Proverbs 15:28 "The heart of the righteous ponders how to answer, but the mouth of the wicked pours out evil things." You cannot hide who you are fractalfires. Your mouth and heart will not allow that.
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel Demoniacs quote scripture but don't apply it to themselves.
Your OWN mouth and heart will not allow you to apply it to yourself.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@fractalfires What are you talking about?
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
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@ChristianityChannel "Your most recent comment reminded me of a Proverb I was studying yesterday. One vers in particular comes to mind. It is...
Proverbs 19:5 "A false witness will not go unpunished, and he who breathes out lies will not escape.""
It is evident God is speaking to YOU about your own judgment. I would pay attention to the Holy Spirit if I were you. Because you CERTAINLY WILL NOT ESCAPE. You keep resisting the Holy Spirit's voice to your eternal torment
fractalfires 1 month ago
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@christianitychannel amen! God bless you! And have a wonderful holiday season !
remusnigga 1 month ago
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Everybody on here keeps arguing! Especially the demos jack m wolfe and fractalfires. Are there any true christians on here other than myself that would care to share what god has done and continues to do in your life?
remusnigga 1 month ago
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@remusnigga - Certainly. I would love to share the truth. He has saved me eternally. He is demonstrating His Omniscience in revealing His wisdom, knowledge, discretion and discernment in study each day; all the glory belongs to Him. He reminds me that He is Omnipresent and He is always with me during good times and tough times. He reminds me that He will never leave or fosake me. He demonstrates His Omnipotence in Nature each day, in my technology-based job. He is glorious!
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel "He demonstrates His Omnipotence in Nature each day, in my technology-based job. He is glorious!"
Slick, greasy, vile intentional cover up, using words to disguise that you hold that He demonstrates also his 'Omnipotence' by making people steal, lie, cheat, murder, extort, molest, abuse, and follow doctrines of demons. You say he is GLORIOUS for decreeing that people break his LAWS! You're nothing but a demoniac teaching that God is the cause of sin.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@remusnigga "Everybody on here keeps arguing! Especially the demos jack m wolfe and fractalfires."
Ah, you feel molesting kids is good but arguing is bad. Demoniacs have certainly gotten more sophisticated since Jesus' earthly ministry began. When did you first invite the demoniac spirits to make a nest in your being? Do you think you are going to continue spouting demoniac speech without consequences demon?
fractalfires 1 month ago
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@fractalfires remusnigga sez: "I wish to extend to you forgiveness grace & the true love & happiness that comes from a true relationship with the real jesus christ of the bible"
A very touching gesture, & maybe he'll offer you an opportunity to join him in his next porn shoot, or to visit & go by all churches he's been thrown out of in Vegas, or maybe join him in posting some racial slurs on videos such as "Is this racist? Song of the South clip" - one of his favorite Christmas activities.
JackMWolfe 1 month ago
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@christianitychannel GOD BLESS YOU FOR EXPOSING THAT FRACTALFIRES DEMON AND HIS WARPED THEOLOGY. HAVE A MERRY CHRISTMAS!
remusnigga 1 month ago
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@fractalfires i can say that i heard that you murdered somebody in a hit and run a few days ago and got away with it. What would your response be? I am a christian and have never and would never harm any of gods innocent children. Giving an expensive gift to a homeless child that i used to be the pastor of doesnt make me a pedophile!
remusnigga 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel
Heb 3:12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God. (depart is the word apostatize)
The early fathers speak of Lucifer as being an apostate angel. He deserted, fell away from, revolted from his former position or standing.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel Luke 8:13 They on the rock [are they], which, when they hear, receive the word with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation FALL AWAY. 1 Tim 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall DEPART from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils (like Calvinism);
fractalfires 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel "Went out: go out, depart, go forth, come out, come forth...OK?"
No, not okay. the word aphistemai 868 in Strong's from which we get the word apostasy means desertion. There is not a single verse that indicates anything more than DESERTION. This is not a mere rejection of the Gospel by a sinner or hypocrite.
The term as a noun is used as a writ of divorce in Matthew. You are wicked.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@fractalfires - You are not a Greek Scholar and you are not even a "Strong's Concordance Greek Scholar." You just want to argue. That is clear. You believe what you want. Just remember, Proverbs 9:12 teaches, "If you are wise, you are wise for yourself; if you scoff, you alone will bear it."
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel I have gone through several books of Greek grammar and I can figure out which book of the Bible I am in after reading a few verses in the Greek.
I don't pretend to be an expert, but feel free to attack my education.
The passage you quoted shows that you are scoffing at what I know. Big deal. I could care less.
fractalfires 1 month ago
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@ChristianityChannel "You just want to argue. That is clear. You believe what you want."
Your speech reveals that you are a demoniac. It is now clear in fact that you ARE a demoniac. That's what happens when you defend error for the sake of pride. Never mind quoting scripture when you are the scoffer the verse was referring to. You are the demoniac. That means YOU are the liar and the problem. Your doctrines have been exposed and refuted.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@fractalfires so nice to hear you boast about your job at wallmart. You have such an infatuation about me my private life and my personal business. Unless you are jack m wolfe with a different username you are listening to gossip and lies and are falsely judging me for what you have been told but cant prove! I sleep peacefully at night and i still rebuke you in jesus name !
remusnigga 1 month ago
@remusnigga "I sleep peacefully at night and i still rebuke you in jesus name !"
You can rebuke me in Jesus' name and still molest kids. As long as you can sleep at night doing both eh?
If you were innocent you would have been screaming bloody LAWSUIT from the start.
Now you want to play it spiritual. Were you being spiritual when you were molesting those kids? Were you actually 'helping' them 'in love' for 'their OWN good'?
Now THAT is a rebuke.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@Fractalfires I REBUKE You in Jesus Name! Wherever The hell you are getting these LIES and FALSE information about me (From Your new Boyfriend Jack M Wolfe?) OR you ARE Jack M Wolfe! Regardless, God has called Me and My family to A different Church in the state of Nevada,where I faithfully accept My calling to volunteer in The Children's ministry,and My wife is a greeter. Please do tell me of the WONDERFUL things that GOD has Been Doing Through YOU At YOUR Church Recently???????????????????
remusnigga 1 month ago
@remusnigga "I REBUKE You in Jesus Name!"
Ah, so you're a charismatic too. You can join Swaggart in hell. So you got caught molesting kids too I see. I have several sources on you. You have a very colorful past.
I don't know how you sleep at night. You won't sleep in hell.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@jackmwolfe how does it feel to be exposed for who and what you really are? I forgive you and jesus loves you.
remusnigga 1 month ago
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@remusnigga "I forgive you and jesus loves you."
How touching. Getting forgiven by a coward fiend who was removed from teaching youth because he enjoys child porn.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@fractalfires unless you are a homosexual or looking for a daddy figure in jack m wolfe it wouldnt surprise me one bit if you actually are jack m wolfe! What happened to joan d arc ? I will continue to pray for your heretic asses !
remusnigga 1 month ago
@remusnigga "I will continue to pray for your heretic asses !" Well, we both know that you think about them a lot.
I don't use public showers, thank you for the offer. The youth formerly under your care certainly found out that you were concerned about their 'derriers' too...in a SPIRITUAL sense (if you SAY so) you rotten pedophile
fractalfires 1 month ago
@fractalfires there are no conditions you moron! God is in control and god is the judge. Not you. When another christian brother such as myself SUGGESTS something it is only out of love and concern for your spiritual well being. I am not trying to do gods job. The bible says plain simple and clearly to JUST BELIEVE. So why do you insist on quoting all of this other stuff?
remusnigga 1 month ago
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fractalfires 1 month ago
@fractalfires why is it not a good thing for god to remind us where he has predestined us to spend eternity? I am not a pedophile nor a stalker. That is a serious accusation! The bible talks about bearing false witness and judging unto others. Your new friend jackmwolfe is sick and dangerous and wants to take you to hell with him!
remusnigga 1 month ago
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@remusnigga "I am not a pedophile nor a stalker. That is a serious accusation! The bible talks about bearing false witness and judging unto others."
The sins you committed to get you removed from your position are serious and now you make it more serious by lying about it. While you try to do damage control and manipulate the facts you are storing up more wrath. And while you chum with WCOF and Channeler, you do God a favor by having their names associated with yours. Praise God
fractalfires 1 month ago
@christianity channel you say that you are quoting the holy bible which you are. But you make it sound as if you are quoting mark driscoll whom says the exact same thing. The world consists of everything that god created including video games and water. You are twisting scripture by implying that god died for them. God died for many peoples sins. If he predestines certain people to hell that proves that calvinism is correct!
remusnigga 1 month ago
*you are ensnared by the words of your mouth; storing up wrath.
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
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@jackmwolfe i pray that you seek the professional psychiatric help that you so desperately need before you even think about harming another one of gods children. I pray that you get on your hands and knees and cry out to god and truely repent. The bible says to love our enemies. I love you jack but hell is hot and terrible. You would find alot to complain about there too!
remusnigga 1 month ago
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ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
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@christianity channel god bless you for exposing jackmwolfe. He got me fired from my former job as a youth pastor by spreading gossip and lies about me. He tapped into my account got my password and sent kiddie porn to my pastor. He is sick and dangerous. Keep exposing him though brother or sister !
remusnigga 1 month ago
@remusnigga He didn't spread lies about you. The truth just came out about you. I knew what happened and you just confirmed it. You're a pedophile stalker
fractalfires 1 month ago
@jackmwolfe so which seminary school did you flunk out of? What religion or denomination to you practice? Where do you attend church? Are you serving there as a volunteer or staff? I cant wait for the day where jesus christ himself says he never knew you. You follow bill maher when you should follow jesus christ!
remusnigga 1 month ago
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@remusnigga "You follow bill maher when you should follow jesus christ!"
Like you following child porn and getting yourself kicked out of youth pastoring? After you read this, abandon your youtube account. Don't open your channel again. Do it YESTERDAY. WCOF justifies child porn and sin in 'true believers' and you actually get caught!
fractalfires 1 month ago
@remusnigga "so which seminary school did you flunk out of?"
Which youth pastor position did you get dismissed from due to immorality?
fractalfires 1 month ago
*opposing real Christians
*You
*In 2:8 and 9 we clearly see
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
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@jackmwolfe you dont make any damn sense whatsoever. If god is all knowing and everything that has ever or will ever happened has already been predestined from the very beginning then your false arminianism and openp theist doctrine makes absolutely no sense at all. Even if you are arminian please do tell us of your good works that you are claiming!
remusnigga 1 month ago
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@741rjohnson no hard feelings brother !
remusnigga 1 month ago
Nice presentation. The reality is that neither view is 100% correct. 4 Point Arminianism (the first four) and 2 point Calvinism (T (#1) and P (#5)) a la Norm Geisler is the best position.
egwpisteuw 1 month ago
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@jackmwolfe i know why you arent responding to any of my comments. Because you know damn well that i expose false doctrine and it makes you look soooooo bad! You have been on here like 24 7. You are an open theist cultist moron that desires an audience!
remusnigga 1 month ago
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@fractalfires YOU can have fun in hell with your new boyfriend jackmwolfe. I have studied scripture for 13 years. Calvinism came out way before man centered faith by works arminianism did. I am not a universalist and i do know what i am talking about! All fucking day you play on youtube to show millions of people how you think you know scripture. Aint workin dude!
remusnigga 1 month ago
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@741rjohnson i commend you for your last comment which is biblical and correct. And for the other guy YOU are quoting this twelve tribes gods chosen people crap and trying to pass it off as jewish. Yes jesus was a jew and his hebrew name is yahshua but you are twisting scripture to support your hillarious interpretations just like jackmwolfe. I rebuke and expose you in jesus name!
remusnigga 1 month ago
@remusnigga Thanks for replying to my comments.You may not agree with this but Calvinist and Universalist have a lot in common in that both views understand the Sovereingty of God in salvation. We understand that the blood of Jesus Christ actually saves people,not just make salvation possible(Arminianism).Thanks. God Bless
741rjohnson 1 month ago
@741rjohnson I am most CERTAIN of the basis of unity between Calvinism and Universalism. Both positions generally hold to the doctrine of physical inability, and the need of physical regeneration (change of nature). Both hold the 'payment of the debt' theory of atonement. Universalism is actually more consistent than Calvinism in that respect. Both hold that salvation is automatic for whom Christ died. Calvinism errs worse by saying Christ only died for the lucky ones, lol.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@741rjohnson atonement continued. If the payment of the debt theory of atonement is true and Jesus paid for every sin for those whom he died, then universalism is the necessary conclusion. This is why many Calvinists become Universalists. It is easy to show that Christ died for ALL. It is more consistent with love that God through the cross made atonement AVAILABLE to all, rather than AUTOMATIC to all. Conditional pardon is consistent with perfect benevolence. grace and peace.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@rjohnson "You may not agree with this but Calvinist & Universalist have a lot in common in that both views understand the Sovereingty of God in salvation"
Correct. They're both false gospels based on the unbiblical idea that God sovereignly forces salvation on men instead of offerring it as a gift which can be declined - the C's just limit it to a chosen few while the U's make it all inclusive. Both deny the conditional nature of the gift - that men are free not to repent & can reject it.
JackMWolfe 1 month ago
@JackMWolfe Jack's making his usual rounds around YouTube defiling the Word of God and (for which he/she will have to give an account) storing up wrath for himself. Jack preaches a false Gospel of Faith + Works Righteousness. Jack makes a mock of Eph 2:9 and Rom 3:20 (actually his entire biblical commentary is mockery). I have shown you how God's gift is unconditional and you scorn. Proverbs 9:12b...but if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it. Jack's on dangerous ground.
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@Channel Rather, I'm posting the same refutations of your trolling excursions - exposing that your demonic doctrines are based on manipulated prooftexts you ripped from the bible & then forced your abominations between the lines. Your PARTIAL quote of Paul in Eph2:8-9 is a perfect example - vs10 says believers are saved UNTO good works that God has predestined for them to do - sanctifying works which are a VITAL part of salvation & if not obeyed, then salvation will be forfeited - as YOURS has!
JackMWolfe 1 month ago
@JackMWolfe - I am fully aware of the passage Ephesians 2:8-10. I am telling you that you do not rightly divide the Word of God. As a matter of fact your failure to properly exegite this passage is one of the most grotesque errors I have seen someone professing to be a Christian make. Your distorted view of Scripture is appaling. In 2:8 and 9 clearly see Monergism and Sola Fide. In verse 10 we see "why." Verse 10 poses NO condition to round-out the salvation story. Continued
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel "Verse 10 poses NO condition to round-out the salvation story. "
Then why keep telling Jack and I to 'repent and believe' Calvinism? You and WCOF keep threatening us with hell and keep putting conditions on us, lol. Is that a tear?
fractalfires 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel "I am fully aware of the passage Ephesians 2:8-10. I am telling you that you do not rightly divide the Word of God."
It's OKAY to disagree with you if a person is certain of having better evidence for a differing position. If a person sees that you are silly but that you have a 'perceptual set' preventing you from seeing your error, your outrage is understandable, but not JUSTIFIED. You need to see the facts, embrace them all, and change your heart
fractalfires 1 month ago
@JackMWolfe (continued) - There is Salvation which stands alone; through the finished work of our Lord and God, Jesus Christ, his spotless life, his pure blood shed on the cross, imputation, taking on the full wrath of God for our sins and imputing His righteousness to us. He said "It is finished and IT IS. It was finshed there and then. No need for man's tainted works to be added for such are filthy rags. You are returning to law. You are not justified by the works of the law.
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel What a pile of manure. If payment of a debt is true and imputation is true and there is nothing to add to it, then neither is repentance nor faith necessary. If unbelief is a sin, then surely your imputation theory must impute righteousness even to the sin of unbelief. Otherwise it is not a complete and finished work. No obedience required. You call that good news to the elect, lol.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel "You are returning to law. You are not justified by the works of the law." But if you tell us NOT to return to the 'law' and to stop doing that, you are putting conditions on us in order to be saved! I believed in imputation until I researched the debate over it. So if 'the work is finished, nothing to add to it, no obedience required' is true, then we can preach against imputation with no soteriological consequences. You have been refuted.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@fractalfires If you were a true Christian you wouldn't continue to believe and propagate lies. If you continue in sin, opposing God's Word, opposing God, ascribing His attributes as Unholy, you're deceiving yourself. Your Soteriological position is that you trust in man's work righteousness for salvation and that has eternal consequences. Your departing from the truth about God, His Son, Salvation and Sanctification shows that you were never of us. 1 John 2:19 and John 6:66.
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel "If you were a true Christian you wouldn't continue to believe and propagate lies. " I am a Christian is the Bible sense of the term and everything you post is garbage from square one.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel "Your departing from the truth about God, His Son, Salvation and Sanctification shows that you were never of us. 1 John 2:19 and John 6:66."
Now you sound like an Arminian. If I 'departed from the truth' then you are admitting that I once 'had it'. Upon the supposition that your Calvinism is true, then I am STILL 'of you'. What a horrible thought to consider being in heaven with a Holy Spirit blaspheming Calvin worshiper! Tragic that you're dead.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@fractalfires Not at all. If the truth is preached, i.e., proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ and you reject it, you are departing from the truth. If you hang out in a church that is preaching the truth but, you yourself, have never been born again, and you leave the church you are departing from the truth. Read the two verses and the surronding passages; 1 John 2:19 and John 6:66
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel "If the truth is preached, i.e., proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ and you reject it, you are departing from the truth."
What an idiot.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel Show me in the Bible where a sinner who rejects the Gospel has 'departed from the truth'.
If you depart from the USA it demonstrates you were never there in the first place: that's Calvinistic word tricks. "Anybody who divorces demonstrates they weren't married to begin with" Brilliantly stupid Calvinists.
fractalfires 1 month ago
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@fractalfires You said, "Show me in the Bible where a sinner who rejects the Gospel has 'departed from the truth."
Depart - To Be at variance with; be out of line with, to head in a different direction
John 6:66 "From that time many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him."
Matthew 27:5 And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and hanged himself.
(continued)
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel "You said, "Show me in the Bible where a sinner who rejects the Gospel has 'departed from the truth.""
Now you cited John 6:66 and Matthew 27:5
You did not define 'depart' correctly. In the first verse, there were those who WERE Christ's disciples, but later CEASED being disciples.
You're begging for people to accept your views. This is not exegesis from you. It is just the Calvinistic view of prooftexts which don't support it. Again.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@fractalfires A disciple does not insist regenerate. A disciple is a "learner." And I certainly did define depart correctly. You must understand that words have more than one meaning. Those who were LEARNING about Christ, departed from him, because they did not believe. And we know why. John 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. OK?
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel "A disciple does not insist regenerate. A disciple is a "learner." And I certainly did define depart correctly."
No you didn't. You are an idiot who would fail grade 1 if you tried to argue that with a teacher. Also Calvinism is incorrect so your first statement is wrong. A disciple is a learner. You have learned nothing except to be the devil's disciple. Is it not enough to butcher Scripture that you have to butcher the dictionary as well?
fractalfires 1 month ago
@fractalfires (continued) 1 John 2:19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they all are not of us.
Went out: go out, depart, go forth, come out, come forth...
OK?
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel the verse doesn't DEMONSTRATE that the persons were not saved to begin with. Are you saying that if the persons who 'went out from among us' had died BEFORE leaving the Apostles doctrine would have manifested they were true believers?
Perhaps you should focus on more important terms 'continued'. Rather than 'depart, went out'.
You are grasping at gnats as usual.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel Again, if Wallmart is 2 miles from your home and you change your mind and go two miles in the other direction one block after you DEPARTED from your home, did you just DEPART from Wallmart?
1 Tim 6:"4 He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, "
You subvert faith by subverting language itself and consequently of proper thinking.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@fractalfires If worms had machine guns would birds attack them? If, if, if, if...If IS NOT EXEGESIS! On the contrary, you speak lies in hypocrisy as revealed in 1 Tim 4:2 by subverting that very truth & railing against me. God gave us languages (Tower of Babel), God gave us grammar, He gave us hermeneutics. Why do you despise His Word? Have you not read Proverbs 13:13 Whoso despiseth the word shall be destroyed: but he that feareth the commandment shall be rewarded.
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel "by subverting that very truth & railing against me."
It's all about you.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel you are so confused. You teach that God is the ultimate cause of sin and now you elaborate and make God the ultimate cause of the Great Apostasy. People you say were born to populate hell are THREATENED with hell for DEPARTING from the truth. But if they didn't depart from the truth, then they are still damned according to you. You are confused beyond belief.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@fractalfires Well you say I am confused but I think more accurately you are confused because you don't understand me. You are at variance with me. You are "departing from the truth" about God, His Son, the Gospel and so many other things. It's sad to see you confused. God IS SOVEREIGN over all. Man is still culpable for the decisions he makes. He sins and does not believe because he loves sin and thinks the preaching of the cross is foolishness. GUILTY! But for Chirst...
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
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@ChristianityChannel "you are confused because you don't understand me."
Yup, to you, when people don't understand you, you say they are confused.
I pity you for having lobotomized yourself to think 'depart' and 'apostatize' to mean something other than it is meant in common speech. Your preaching is not 'the foolishness of the Gospel' but just plain fanatic Calvinist idiot foolishness.
fractalfires 1 month ago
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@ChristianityChannel "Well you say I am confused but I think more accurately you are confused because you don't understand me. You are at variance with me"
It is better to be at variance with an idiot like yourself than to be an idiot...like YOURSELF.
I understand you well enough. It is just that you are nuts.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel "If the truth is preached, i.e., proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ and you reject it, you are departing from the truth."
No. If I depart from Wallmart it means I was there. Nor does it mean 'going in a different direction' because I may have been on my way to Wallmart, but changed my mind one block from home. I departed from my GOAL to go there, but I didn't depart from Wallmart. Back to kindergarten, jerk. Glad you don't teach my kids English.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@JackMWolfe (continued) - I can tell you that you're miserable and afraid because you have no assurance of salvation. 99% of your time on YouTube, is spent opposing against real Christians, the real Gospel and the One True God of the Bible. Your handling of scripture WOULD BE COMICAL IF IT WEREN'T SO TRAGIC! Your ignorance and conceit stink up the place. you are so embedded in sin that you DON'T EVEN REALIZE IT! Prov18:2 and 26:12, 2 Tim 4:2 and Rom 2:5. Very tragic Jack!
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@Channeler What's tragic is your irreversible condemnation for blaspheming the Spirit - I only respond to you so others won't be misled into the same hopeless condition. The works referred to in Eph2:10 have NOTHING to do with trying to be justified by the Law - they're GOD"S sanctifying works that become available to believers when they put their faith in Christ. They're unique works designed for each believer that are inspired & empowered by the Holy Spirit - but no longer available to you.
JackMWolfe 1 month ago
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@JackMWolfe Fron Genesis to Revelation the Holy Bible reveals that SALVATION IS OF THE LORD, ALONE. From Genesis to Revelation the Holy Bible reveals that salvation IS NEVER BY HUMAN EFFORT, P-E-R-I-O-D. I assure you that the Holy Spirit of God resides within. This is the reason I am addressing you Jack. Otherwise, I would pass on by you and pay no attention to you. (continued)
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
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@JackMWolfe (continued) You're weaving a web of deceit and storing up wrath for yourself by labeling works as "sanctifying works" whle similtaneously insisting they are "salvific works". They're not unique works Jack. Your life is govern by God, Jesus Christ our Lord; or your life is govern by sin, held in bondage to do the will of the devil, 2 Timothy 2:25-27; in this case you are a mouth piece for the devil preaching a FALSE GOSEPEL. You knnow nothing about God's grace Jack.
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@Channeler "the Holy Bible reveals that salvation IS NEVER BY HUMAN EFFORT, P-E-R-I-O-D"
L-O-L
Heb4:11 "Let us therefore be zealous & exert ourselves & strive diligently to enter that rest that no one may fall or perish by the same kind of unbelief & disobedience into which those in the wilderness fell"
2Pet1:5 "For this very reason, add your diligence to the divine promises, employ every effort in exercising your faith.."
I guess Paul & Peter didn't get that memo! What a blind fool.
JackMWolfe 1 month ago
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@JackMWolfe No salvation iss never by human effort, period. Romans 9:16 "So then it depends not on human will or exertion, but on God, who has mercy." Now I have already explained to you that you do not know how to exegete the Word of God properly. It is not possible for the natural man to understand the things of the Spirit of God. If you knew that you would also know that you are combining Hebrews 3:17 with Hebrews 4:11. That's called eisegesis, Jack. (continued)
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
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@JackMWolfe (cont) NEITHER passage speaks of a loss of salvation or human will to obtain salvation. Read Rom 9:6-7 Jack. And, 2 Pet 1:5 is not speaking of loss of salvation or human will to obtain salvation. Notice that the verse says supplementing- adding to-applying diligence TO WHAT? Y-O-U-R F-A-I-T-H! You must have Faith before you can sanctify your faith. If you're saved, you have a faith that's not of yourself but through God's Grace by the finished work of Jesus Christ
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel your 'exegesis' is eisegesis. I know you FEEL your interpretation...your CALVINISM...is the truth, but Scripture doesn't support your interpretation of it. We KNOW how you interpret it, but most people do not agree with it.
A person can have eternal life without hearing about or agreeing with your interpretation. The early fathers before Augustine did not agree with your gnostic views either. Your views are anti-Christian and anti-Semitic.
fractalfires 1 month ago
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@JackMWolfe - Now you know what is a dead give-away that shows you are not a Christian Jack? Your attitude! You type LOL. There is nothing laughable about your condition. Proverbs 29:9 teaches us "If a wise man has an argument with a fool, the fool only rages and laughs, and there is no quiet." You conceit and arrogant contempt is another give-away. You are drowning in your own sin and folly and you love it. You are in an eternally horrific situation Jack.
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@Channel "what is a dead give-away that shows you are not a Christian Your attitude! You type LOL"
Ps2:4 "He Who sits in the heavens laughs; the Lord has them in derision & in supreme contempt He mocks them..He speaks to them in His deep anger & terrifies & confounds them in His displeasure & fury..."
Along with God, I laugh & mock your elitist doctrines, doltish pseudo-knowledge, bloated ego, & fictional god whose only power is deception. I'll laugh now & walk on BOTH your ashes later!
JackMWolfe 1 month ago
@JackMWolfe No sir. You laugh and mock like a fool and you ensnared by your mouth and storing up wrath. Like the devil in Matthew Chapter 4, you misuse the Word of God for your own evil purpose. Christians proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ. The good news is that Jesus Christ alone has died for and is the propitiation of the sins of those who believe on Him. No works will secure salvation. Continue to mock but there's an end to your folly. Reconsider, repnent and believe!
ChristianityChannel 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel "The good news is that Jesus Christ"
No, Jesus HIMSELF claimed that the Gospel is 'for God so loved the WORLD...'
It is not 'good news' for those predestined to go to heaven. It is good news for those who are lost. If the elect were never lost to begin with, they don't even NEED to hear that Jesus died for them. They'll just find out when they die.
Also, Jack and I did believe imputation for a short time. So if we are wrong, we can't be lost!
fractalfires 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel "I can tell you that you're miserable and afraid because you have no assurance of salvation. " If Calvinism is true, then one doesn't need assurance of salvation in order to be one of the elect. Most of us believed imputation before having realized there was a 'calvinism-arminian' debate. If it is true, we don't need to fear hell ever.
fractalfires 1 month ago
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@ChristianityChannel "I can tell you that you're miserable and afraid because you have no assurance of salvation."
Just proves that Calvinism is an emotional placebo. "Come to Jesus and feel good"
Christians can have peace and joy without having to meet the CONDITION of embracing Calvinism. You are teaching salvation by works!
fractalfires 1 month ago
@ChristianityChannel "Jack makes a mock of Eph 2:9 and Rom 3:20 "
We've been over this several times. You don't OWN the copyright on the Bible and YOUR interpretation is not somebody else's. I've explained to you that the Bible is not proof of one's interpretation of it. Anybody is free to mock your interpretation if they see it is nonsense and you are getting abusive while pushing it. The only 'dangerous ground' is suffering more empty threats of hell and more abuse.
fractalfires 1 month ago
@741rjohnson Yes, if Jesus paid the debt and imputed righteousness to all those for whom he died (and Calvinists and Universalists agree there) then it is simple to show from Scripture that Jesus died for all. All of us like sheep have gone astray...
Scripture says Jesus died for all, Calvinists' interpretation says he died for some. Sola Interpretation (they confuse for Scripture)
fractalfires 1 month ago
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@741rjohnson God chooses whom will be saved. While he wants everyone to repent of their sins which is an act of faith and not faith by works. If he wanted us all to be saved then hell wouldnt exist. JACKMWOLFE IS ON HIS WAY TO HELL! AND THATS JUST THE WAY GOD WANTED IT TO BE! Amen !
remusnigga 1 month ago
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". . . I made use of what was given me, and others did not - that is the difference between me and them'. That is a prayer for the devil, for nobody else would offer such a prayer as that. Ah! When they are preaching and talking slowly, there may be wrong doctrine; but when they come to pray, the true thing slips out; they cannot help it."
C.H. Spurgeon
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Bill244888 1 month ago
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Lord, I know thou dost not make us willing if we are not willing ourselves. Thou givest grace to everybody; some do not improve it, but I do. There are many that will go to hell as much bought with the blood of Christ as I was; they had as much of the Holy Spirit given to them; they had as good a chance, and were as much blessed as I am. It was not thy grace that made us to differ; I know it did a great deal, still I turned the point; . . ."
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Bill244888 1 month ago
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"An Arminian on his knees would pray desperately like a Calvinist. He cannot pray about free-will: there is no room for it. Fancy him praying, 'Lord, I thank Thee I am not like those poor Calvinists. Lord, I was born with a glorious free-will; I was born with power by which I can turn to thee myself; I have improved my grace. If everybody has done the same with their grace that I have, they might all have been saved."
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Bill244888 1 month ago
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"The greatest judgment which God Himself can, in this present life, inflict upon a man is, to leave him in the hand of his own boasted free-will."
Augustus Toplady
Bill244888 1 month ago
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Arminianism's worship of "man's free will" reeks of pride.
Bill244888 1 month ago
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@Bill244888 "Arminianism's worship of "man's free will" reeks of pride."
So does yours. Calvinism worships free will, and refuses to use it for God's glory.
Calvinism is a bad joke.
fractalfires 1 month ago