@godschild420tpg: Well the Bible does say Homosexuality is an Abomination to God and that the Penalty for Homosexual Acts is Death correct? So he is simply arguing from a Biblical perspective and how as a Christian you can find fault with that I have no idea?
@ConservativeAtheist the fault is that he should not be judging people. This is not the only video, conference or speech he has made. He consistently argues that homosexuality is an abomination however the bible also states that we shouldn't judge people. The Bible does not oppose homosexuality because it does not speak of true or innate homosexuality but rather of homosexual acts by people who are not homosexuals
@godschild420tpg I agree that Ishouldn't point out the speck in another person's eye when there is a plank in my own. There is a difference between judging people and advising them against something. I believe that Mr. Werner has the 1st amendment right to preach as he wishes. I disagree with him harshly judging others, even though I believe also that homosexuality is a sin. We must remember to treat our enemies as our friends, turn the other cheek, but also preach without judging. Only 1 judge.
@godschild420tpg: You are jumping to conclusions based on the fact that he met his second wife before he was divorced but I have dated girls I met through Ex-Girl friends and nothing happen till it was completely over between myself and the first girl. Even if it were true one mistake does not equate to an entire life long life style and surely you know this.
@ConservativeAtheist I understand everything that you are saying. I agree with what is in the bible, but for a man who has committed a cardinal sin to judge others is the reason for my comment. You cannot judge people when you yourself are a sinner.
@godschild420tpg: Again everyone is a Sinner so no one can judge anyone and that simply isn't true. Just because I go to Strip Clubs now and then doesn't mean I can't judge someone that uses Crack.
@ConservativeAtheist but, Mr. Werner claims to be a man of god. He is a self proclaimed street prophet. If he were to judge you and call you you a sinner for lusting after women would you defend yourself? I happen to have a lesbian relative. And, I will defend her.
@godschild420tpg: I of course would defend relatives and friends under most circumstances but not if I think they are wrong and forgive me if I am mistaken but Werner is Preaching against the Homosexual Life Style and Agenda but he has never directly confronted your Lesbian relative has he? So you aren't defending your Lesbian relative you are defending the Life Style in general correct?
I of course as a Man have a double standard when it comes to Lesbians Verses Gay Males.
@ConservativeAtheist he has in fact said something to me regarding my gay relative. He referred to the fact that she will be going to hell. I am defending my relative and the lifestyle. Neither of which he has any right to preach negatively about. I am also a male and regardless of whether I think gay male or female relationships are "wrong", I would never publicly preach when I too am a sinner in the eyes of the Lord.
@godschild420tpg: Your entire argument is that he can't say something is wrong if he isn't perfect which again means no one should ever stand up for what they believe in and that just simply isn't true.
SHAME ON YOU! its really sad that in these times of economic struggle, global hardships & natural disasters you waste your time persecuting instead of helping those in need. you know, it's usually found that those who publicly and vehmently crusade against "alternative lifestyles" actually fantasize/participate in secret. why don't you go chase after the perverted child molesting priests, instead of consenting adults. oh wait they'll just get moved to a new church to find new victims...
@dollface21977 Actually, you are right that they do get moved to new churches to find new victims. I am a witness, as a matter of a person's character, in a case against a youth pastor whom was moved from one church to another. I absolutely do not tolerate that kind of behavior and boast I am one of the more vocal people for prosecution of such offenders.
@dollface21977: That's simply your poor attempt at reverse Psychology so as to silence any critics. You are right in a few cases people who are against them fight their own nature but you either exaggerate or outright lie when you say most it's actual a mere few. According to your theory anyone criticizing a Pedophile is a Pedophile.
I am not saying I completely agree with Werner but your illogical weak Liberal arguments beg to be sorted out and undone.
After seeing this video, I now know why God wrote: Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
@godschild420tpg: Well the Bible does say Homosexuality is an Abomination to God and that the Penalty for Homosexual Acts is Death correct? So he is simply arguing from a Biblical perspective and how as a Christian you can find fault with that I have no idea?
ConservativeAtheist 1 year ago
@ConservativeAtheist the fault is that he should not be judging people. This is not the only video, conference or speech he has made. He consistently argues that homosexuality is an abomination however the bible also states that we shouldn't judge people. The Bible does not oppose homosexuality because it does not speak of true or innate homosexuality but rather of homosexual acts by people who are not homosexuals
godschild420tpg 1 year ago
@godschild420tpg I agree that Ishouldn't point out the speck in another person's eye when there is a plank in my own. There is a difference between judging people and advising them against something. I believe that Mr. Werner has the 1st amendment right to preach as he wishes. I disagree with him harshly judging others, even though I believe also that homosexuality is a sin. We must remember to treat our enemies as our friends, turn the other cheek, but also preach without judging. Only 1 judge.
stanley311 1 year ago
@godschild420tpg: You are jumping to conclusions based on the fact that he met his second wife before he was divorced but I have dated girls I met through Ex-Girl friends and nothing happen till it was completely over between myself and the first girl. Even if it were true one mistake does not equate to an entire life long life style and surely you know this.
ConservativeAtheist 1 year ago
@ConservativeAtheist I understand everything that you are saying. I agree with what is in the bible, but for a man who has committed a cardinal sin to judge others is the reason for my comment. You cannot judge people when you yourself are a sinner.
godschild420tpg 1 year ago
@godschild420tpg: Again everyone is a Sinner so no one can judge anyone and that simply isn't true. Just because I go to Strip Clubs now and then doesn't mean I can't judge someone that uses Crack.
ConservativeAtheist 1 year ago
@ConservativeAtheist but, Mr. Werner claims to be a man of god. He is a self proclaimed street prophet. If he were to judge you and call you you a sinner for lusting after women would you defend yourself? I happen to have a lesbian relative. And, I will defend her.
godschild420tpg 1 year ago
@godschild420tpg: I of course would defend relatives and friends under most circumstances but not if I think they are wrong and forgive me if I am mistaken but Werner is Preaching against the Homosexual Life Style and Agenda but he has never directly confronted your Lesbian relative has he? So you aren't defending your Lesbian relative you are defending the Life Style in general correct?
I of course as a Man have a double standard when it comes to Lesbians Verses Gay Males.
ConservativeAtheist 1 year ago
@ConservativeAtheist he has in fact said something to me regarding my gay relative. He referred to the fact that she will be going to hell. I am defending my relative and the lifestyle. Neither of which he has any right to preach negatively about. I am also a male and regardless of whether I think gay male or female relationships are "wrong", I would never publicly preach when I too am a sinner in the eyes of the Lord.
godschild420tpg 1 year ago
@godschild420tpg: Your entire argument is that he can't say something is wrong if he isn't perfect which again means no one should ever stand up for what they believe in and that just simply isn't true.
ConservativeAtheist 1 year ago
SHAME ON YOU! its really sad that in these times of economic struggle, global hardships & natural disasters you waste your time persecuting instead of helping those in need. you know, it's usually found that those who publicly and vehmently crusade against "alternative lifestyles" actually fantasize/participate in secret. why don't you go chase after the perverted child molesting priests, instead of consenting adults. oh wait they'll just get moved to a new church to find new victims...
dollface21977 1 year ago
@dollface21977 Actually, you are right that they do get moved to new churches to find new victims. I am a witness, as a matter of a person's character, in a case against a youth pastor whom was moved from one church to another. I absolutely do not tolerate that kind of behavior and boast I am one of the more vocal people for prosecution of such offenders.
jwerner79 1 year ago
@dollface21977: That's simply your poor attempt at reverse Psychology so as to silence any critics. You are right in a few cases people who are against them fight their own nature but you either exaggerate or outright lie when you say most it's actual a mere few. According to your theory anyone criticizing a Pedophile is a Pedophile.
I am not saying I completely agree with Werner but your illogical weak Liberal arguments beg to be sorted out and undone.
ConservativeAtheist 1 year ago
After seeing this video, I now know why God wrote: Leviticus 20:13 If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
Romans 1:24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
RevSpitz1 1 year ago