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Yes, Macedonian culture and history are quite separate from Bulgarian and Serbian culture and history; they have never been the object of an impartial and detailed study. The Serbs and the Bulgarians most unfairly took from Macedonian culture only what they could make use of for the glory of their own national names; ignoring facts of capital importance either because they did not concern them, or because they contradicted their own national aspirations. Unfortunately, the Macedonians themselves are only now beginning to study Macedonian history, having realized, towards the end of last century, that they could no longer trust the historians of Belgrade or Sofia..." Krste Petkov Misirkov (1874-1926)

"I am not Bulgarian, nor Greek, nor Tzintzar, I am pure Macedonian as were Philip and Alexander the Macedonian and Aristotle Philosopher." Gjorgi Pulevski (1838-1895)
"People who are of the same origin and who speak the same words and who live and make friends of each other, who have the same customs and songs and entertainment are what we call a nation, and the place where that people lives is called the people's country. Thus the Macedonians also are a nation and the place which is theirs is called Macedonia". Gjorgi Pulevski (1838-1895)

In his "Dictionary of Three Languages" Pulevski laid claims to Alexander the Macedonian: "Macedonia was praised," he says, "in the time of the great tsar Alexander". Next, Pulevski mentions with pride that the first books of the brothers Cyril and Methodius were in our language: "... The Macedonian language is the one which is the closest to Church Slavonic books and it is Old Slavonic", "We are called Slavs because when Cyril and Methodius translated the church books from Greek into Slavonic, they found it would be good to write in Old Slavonic and the Old Slavs lived in Macedonia".
Gjorgi Pulevski (1838-1895)

Demosthenes
Greek Orator

"... not only no Greek, nor related to the Greeks, but not even a barbarian from any place that can be named with honors, but a pestilent knave from Macedonia, whence it was never yet possible to buy a decent slave" - Demosthenes, Third Philippic, 31. The famous words that this Greek orator from Athens used to describe the Macedonian king Philip II, the father of Alexander the Great, prior to Philip's conquest of Greece.


(Alexander speaks:) "The Macedonians are going to judge your case," he said. "Please state whether you will use your native language before them." (Philotas:) "Besides the Macedonians, there are many present who, I think, will find what I am going to say easier to understand if I use the language you yourself have been using, your purpose, I believe, being only to enable more people to understand you."
(Then the king said:) "Do you see how offensive Philotas find even his native language? He alone feels an aversion to learning it. But let him speak as he pleases - only remember he as contemptuous of our way of life as he is of our language." Quintus Curtius Rufus

Plutarch, the ancient Greek historian from 1st century AD quoted Alexander's words where the king himself separates the Macedonians from the Greeks as distinct nation: "When you see the Greeks walking about among the Macedonians, do they not look to you like demi-gods among so many wild beasts?" (Alex.51.2)

"Neither Greeks nor Macedonians considered the Macedonians to be Greeks." Eugene Borza

"The tension at court between Greeks and Macedonians, tension that the ancient authors clearly recognized as ethnic division." Eugene Borza

On the Macedonian language: "The main evidence for Macedonian existing as separate language comes from a handful of late sources describing events in the train of Alexander the Great, where the Macedonian tongue is mentioned specifically." Eugene Borza

"The handful of surviving genuine Macedonian words - not loan words from Greek - do not show the changes expected from Greek dialect." Eugene Borza

So little do the Macedonians seem to have belonged to the Hellenic community at the beginning, that they did not take part in the great Games of Greece, and when the Kings of Macedon were admitted to them, it was not as Macedonians, but as Heraclids. Isocrates, in the 'Philip' praises them for not having imposed their kingship on the Hellenes, to whom the kingship is always oppressive, and for having gone among foreigners to establish it. He, therefore, did not regard the Macedonians as Greeks." PIERRE JOUGUET (Alexander the Great and the Hellenistic World)

"And though Philip did not give a fig for Panhellenism as an idea, he at once saw how it could be turned into highly effective camouflage (a notion which his son subsequently took over ready-made). Isocrates had, unwittingly, supplied him with the propaganda-line he needed. From now on he merely had to clothe his Macedonian ambitions in a suitable Panhellenic dress." Peter Green

"What did others say about Macedonians? Here there is a relative abundance of information", writes Borza, "from Arrian, Plutarch (Alexander, Eumenes), Diodorus 17-20, Justin, Curtius Rufus, and Nepos (Eumenes), based upon Greek and Greek-derived Latin sources. It is clear that over a five-century span of writing in two languages representing a variety of historiographical and philosophical positions the ancient writers regarded the Greeks and the Macedonians as two separate and distinct peoples whose relationship was marked by considerable antipathy, if not outright hostility." Eugene Borza

Марко Цепенков, 1899 година запишал:

"...Помислете Вие, мили чеда: за велика цара Александра што се слави и до ден денеска!..."
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Books: Великобугарин сум до толку, до колку сум можел да имам право да живеам во сопствената татковина Македониjа, слободен и невознемируван. За слободата на Македониjа сум се борел против великобугарството, за што во Бугариjа сум бил осуден на смрт и сум лежел во затвор 5 години и 4 месеци. Ако бев великобугарин ќе се согласев на државна служба во Скопjе коjа настоjчиво ми беше нудена. Ако бев великобугарин, барем на едно државно собрание во Македониjа ќе говорев. ќе пишував во весниците за великобугарството... Ако бев великобугарин, немаше да ги одбегнувам прославите и банкетите, иако сум бил специjално канет.... И наjпосле, ако бев великобугарин, ќе отидев на приемот во општината организиран од цар Борис. Упорно бев покануван да присуствувам, но откажав и не отидов. Тоа ќе го потврди и г. Кирил Жерновски, коj во своjство на помошник на кметот имаше наредба да ме покани. И кога официjалните органи ми составуваа белешки дека одбегнувам од тоа, им одговарав: 'Додека бугарските власти jа сметаат Македониjа за своjа колониjа, jас не сакам со присуството да го потврдувам тоа'. ... Како член на В.М.Р.О. Да, таков бев, и имав престапи против бившото Кралство Jугославиjа. Титовата Jугославиjа и Федерална Македониjа не можат и не треба да бараат сметка од тие кои по своjата идеологиjа се бореле против Кралска Jугославиjа. В.М.Р.О. и неговите членови не водеа борба против новата демократска Титова Jугославиjа. Почитуван г. министре, Интересно е да наредите едно сеопфатно истражување на моjата деjност од 1941 г. до 8-ми септември 1944 година...И ако се докажат моите полезни работи во Македониjа, да наредите да ми се врати покуќнината според приложениот список, за дa останам со добри чувства кон управителите на моjата татковина Македониjа во коjа мечтаам да живеам. Со почит кон вас и за доброто на моjата татковина Македониjа Софиjа 15 октомври 1945 година Со почит, Борис Бунев "
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Channel Comments (3644)
SlavonicGreek (17 hours ago)
abe sugle si napravil video za todor aleksandrov a pokazuvas pisma vo koi se pisuva na bugarski haha
na koj jazik ste pisuvale pred 1945 a??
haha vie site ste bugarcinja a makedonija e grcka
SteliosoMaltseh1 (1 day ago)
macedonia is Greek and only Greek.
where is your god???you are alone.
manyaxbunny (4 days ago)
Alexander the Great... Great Macedonian. He was great,like Ataturk =) Good days,bro ;)
SWIFTerMKD (4 days ago)
Кој, брате мој дали знаеш кој
кој го колне родот мој?
hellenicgeo1821 (4 days ago)
I think its enough!:) Aristotle was brought from Athenas as a Macedonian. Everywhere it is known that Arisotle is Greek, if you say he is not Greek then you guys pass the limit of stupidity. If he is Greek and he is from Macedonia then for sure Philip, Alexander and Ancient Macedonians are Greeks.

As for your video i will watch now and answer about it at the video comments...
hellenicgeo1821 (4 days ago)
We must remember too that Philip and Alexander WERE GREEKS, descended from Heracles;they wished to be recognized by the Greeks as benefactors of the Greeks, even as Heracles had been


N.G L Hammond [1989] Alexander The Great page.257

Before engaging at Gaugamela Alexander prayed in front of the army, raising his right hand towards the gods and saying, If I am really descended from Zeus, protect and strengthen the Greeks. That prayer, appearently, was answered


N.G L Hammond [1989] Alexander The Great, pg.260
hellenicgeo1821 (4 days ago)
Modern Historians about Macedonia Nicholas G. L. Hammond

"He adviced Philip as the ruler of the strongest state in Europe to bring the city-states into concord, lead them against Persia, liberate the Greeks in Asia and found there new cities to absorb the surplus population of the Greek mainland."

"Hesiod would not have recorded this relationship, unless he had believed, probably in the SEVENTH CENTURY, that the Macedones were a GREEK-SPEAKING PEOPLE. The next evidence comes from Persia. At the turn of the SIXTH CENTURY the Persians described the tribute- paying peoples of their province in Europe, and one of them was the yauna takabara, which meant Greeks wearing the hat.

"It seems now that Alexander wanted from the Greek states a public and universal recognition of his benefactions, and that he wanted IT AS BEING HIMSELF A GREEK OF THE TEMENID FAMILY"
hellenicgeo1821 (4 days ago)
Well im going to post some last facts and im done with it in your account... You post i post it wont change anything, just showing my side and my facts i wont be writing here everyday, its getting boring.

I asked you if you got any Ancient Macedonian names? except from Philip and Alexander which are international names... All your names are Slavic, same with the ones in Serbia and Bulgaria. Greeks use all Ancient Macedonian names which are the same with the names in the rest of the Greece, nothing different.
CkembarMK (5 days ago)
http://agema-makedonin.blogspot.com/2008/11/did-alexander-great-spread-hellenism.html
Under the texts you got the link from the source...to see that nobody from my country made up those texts...
CkembarMK (5 days ago)
And something about your previous comment about Alexander and Aristotle.Yes Aristotle was his teacher...no doubt.But I wonder why he was called "philhellene" :)))?
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