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Hitchens v. Turek - VCU
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One of the many problems with the religious, and indeed of the religious, has been its image and self-image as something rather solemn, manly, polychrome, and righteous. How many times have we heard the descriptions of our current situation wrought with end of days language as though the dominant deserve salvation and the weak things of the earth deserve the least of these?
In my studies of the deleteriously religious, I have come across many people like Frank Turek. They gargle out of their arguments something that sounds like science. Their words feel like a publication of some sort. Yet there is something missing... awe, I know what it is: correspondence. When I hear the words of an apologist, my mortal flesh wants to agree. I want to know that there will be a god, somewhere, stopping the results he/she/it set in motion some 20 billion years ago. I want to know that the entropy he/she/it instilled in nature when he/she/it decided to bang the Big Bang will be stopped and made to not destroy my planet in the end. Did you hear Turek in response to Hitchens demand for an explanation on the destruction of cosmos? In simple terms, this is how the argument went down: Turek said that though destruction and desolation can be found throughout the universe both by entropy and by collision, there will be an exception in our case, in the end of days. Hitchens quotes Omar Khayyam not in this instance, but does so later to try to show the ridiculousness of the arguments held in the religious arena: And do you think that unto such as you, A maggot-minded, starved, fanatic crew, God gave the secret, and denied it me?— Well, well, what matters it! believe that too. Khayyam gives us good reason to question the origin of the fundamental beleifs of the religious. Like fossils, like carbon-dating, like germ theory of disease, and like the Big Bang, most ideas hardly ever enter the religious domain without a large degree of sacrifice of previous belief or of authority by way of apology. By these means any truth that will ever be brought forth from the scientific domain will also be highjacked and unfalsifiable. God decided to commence the Big Bang? God no longer walks like a material maniac in the case of Job, he is an immaterial being... and thus the religious cloud anything clear. They destroy simplicity and beg to bring their parishioners into obscurity. |
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Hitchens v Wilson - WTS
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In my conversations with believers, the first issue, discussed at great length in this presentation, they often have with the atheists position is the origin of statements of beauty and value (etc). They make the claim that because an omniscient deity sits in yonder heavens telling man what is beautiful and moral, man is licensed to agree. Wilson in this debate claims the same and also asks for the source of value judgements in the nonreligious realm.
Arguments like these, you will have to notice, say nothing about the validity of the religious claim. In deed, where the authority in this scenario is a real being with deity status or a powerful alien convincing humans of moral precepts congruent with their nature is wholly independent of the statements made in the first place. What is at stake here is not the statement: God exists and his statements justify our actions. It is that whatever god is or isnt, his statements justify our actions. The best way of approaching this questions, for me, has always been to undermine the critical assumptions made in the process of making these claims. This can be done, as Hitchens does, by pointing out both the moral and chronological inconsistencies in moral maxims as the Christians propose. They say the golden rule originated in Jesus, it did not. They say that it has been from God alone and his oracles from which moral statements flow, it has not. Whats more important to me is the wholly evil indifference this mild mannered Wilson makes about the killing of Amalekites, to take his example. What was so wrong with obeying the thou shalt not kill principle in the first place? The faithful must answer the question of how God, the source of moral precept, can show that the rape and torture of innocent humans from other tribes was a justifiable act by Gods own standards. The irony is they are constrained to an iron age conversation while making 21st century moral statements. I find this situation both sad and honorable at least that they will contort and twist their holy texts to justify what you and I might consider a moral cause. Nevertheless, as Hitchens points out, there is no need for additional questioning. In point of fact, Laplace said it best when he said, I have no need of that assumption. |
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Christopher Hitchens - Q/A
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My posting this video is not intended to give dedicated attention to one man over another, like some worshiping acolyte. I think Hitchens, being one of the four horsemen, is interesting enough of a person in the so called atheist community to be reviewed in this forum.
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hey alec i just want to say wow man i can't believe all the great debates u've posted. i was so happy to recently subscribe. i happen to be an atheist and a huge hitchens fan (searched for his debates that's how i found u'r posts), but with debates either side can watch and measure the arguments. well i've rambled on but i just wanted to say thanks
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"Consequently, all of the major broadcasts and articles written against Sathya Sai Baba were published by people who were biased and sympathetic with critics and ex-followers. I can no longer, in good faith, believe the allegations against Sathya Sai Baba. Especially when Anti-Sai Activists have shown their complete and utter disregard for the truth and shocking online behavior and attacks that continue, to this day, unabated: Reference." - SEE THE LIST OF VOCAL ANTI-SAI ACTIVISTS: in 4bbc
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I'm just singing in the rain
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FrostyPhilosopher
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The idea which you attribute to Carl Sagan, "Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence." can also be found about 200 years earlier in the writings of David Hume.
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It's all very well just wanting to tell the truth, but it's not the whole truth, just some of it, and the order in which various parts of the truth are revealed matters, and could even be dangerous. This is why it is important to care about people and how they would act on it, hence being a politician.
I have examples of this, but I've written enough I think. Good channel btw.